15:00:13 <bcotton> #startmeeting Prioritized bugs and issues
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15:00:14 <bcotton> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues
15:00:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues'
15:00:25 <bcotton> #topic Purpose of this meeting
15:00:26 <bcotton> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution.
15:00:28 <bcotton> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help  contributors focus on the most important issues.
15:00:29 <bcotton> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/#_process_description
15:00:36 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call
15:05:44 <bcotton> mhroncok: are you around to discuss the bugs you nominated?
15:07:46 <mhroncok> bcotton: hey
15:07:58 <bcotton> hooray!
15:07:59 <mhroncok> bcotton: sorry, I must have missed this meeting, I am around
15:08:41 <bcotton> i meant to send the agenda email with assignees cc'ed, but the day got away from me
15:08:52 <bcotton> but we have more than one person here, so let's party!
15:08:54 <mhroncok> bcotton: (send me a calendar invite if you have it in your work calendar please)
15:08:57 <bcotton> #topic Nominated bugs
15:08:59 <bcotton> #info 2 nominated bugs
15:09:01 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871664&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%3F
15:09:02 <bcotton> mhroncok: ack
15:09:15 <bcotton> #topic gcc crashes during PGO Firefox build
15:09:17 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849165
15:09:38 <mhroncok> this is clearly on the reporter
15:09:43 <mhroncok> I propose to move on for now
15:11:06 <bcotton> think we should reject or give it one more meeting?
15:11:14 <mhroncok> give it one more
15:11:39 <mhroncok> iff the bug is still valid, I would rcommend to prioritize it
15:11:46 <mhroncok> we can do that conditionally if you'd like
15:12:02 <mhroncok> firefox not building is pretty bad :(
15:12:47 <bcotton> proposed #agreed Reproducability is unclear, so we will defer a decision until the next meeting.
15:14:27 <bcotton> mhroncok: is ^^ an accurate read?
15:14:34 <mhroncok> yes
15:14:44 <mhroncok> bcotton: sorry, I've missed the "proposed" bit :)
15:14:53 <bcotton> #agreed Reproducability is unclear, so we will defer a decision until the next meeting.
15:15:11 <bcotton> #topic [Rawhide] gcc crashes at brew during Firefox build
15:15:13 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1862029
15:15:23 <mhroncok> seems like there is an upstream fix
15:15:30 <mhroncok> I'd like to see it backported sooner than later
15:16:26 <bcotton> #info Upstream fix exists
15:16:31 <bcotton> #link https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=96690
15:16:54 <bcotton> does this affect all Firefox builds or just prevent the latest major building?
15:17:06 <mhroncok> sorry, no idea
15:17:09 <bcotton> okay
15:17:24 <bcotton> either way, it seems worth prioritizing
15:17:30 <mhroncok> FTR I've nominated the bugs becasue the firefox maintainers asked fesco to use clang in the meantime
15:17:55 <bcotton> so you're hoping gcc is fixed so they don't have to?
15:19:30 <bcotton> proposed #agreed Accepted as prioritized bug because it blocks builds of a key package
15:19:36 <mhroncok> bcotton: exactly
15:19:41 <mhroncok> bcotton: and ack
15:19:51 <bcotton> #agreed Accepted as prioritized bug because it blocks builds of a key package
15:20:06 <bcotton> #topic Accepted bugs
15:20:08 <bcotton> #info 1 accepted bugs
15:20:09 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871665&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%2B
15:20:24 <bcotton> #topic [Fedora Media Writer] Does not work on macOS Catalina
15:20:25 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1840663
15:20:27 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9577
15:20:29 <mhroncok> RELEASE_PENDING?
15:20:39 <bcotton> yeah, it's blocked on signing
15:20:45 <mhroncok> 2 months ago, oh
15:20:54 <bcotton> mattdm and i have been nudging in a variety of channels
15:21:58 <mhroncok> not sure what can I do that mattdm and you haven't
15:22:16 <mhroncok> I can certainly hunt down humaton a bit easier, but not sure if that helps
15:22:39 * mhroncok know where he lives :D
15:22:45 <mhroncok> *knows
15:23:03 * bcotton laughs evilly
15:24:01 <bcotton> i think it's more blocked on the macOS side which i think kevin is the person who can handle it?
15:25:07 <mhroncok> bcotton: no idea
15:25:23 <bcotton> i guess i'll just keep being annoying until it's fixed :-)
15:25:25 <mhroncok> this entire windows/macos signing is not known to me at all
15:25:32 <smooge> Fedora Media Writer is needing to get new developer certificates
15:25:50 <mhroncok> smooge: hey there :)
15:25:50 <bcotton> ohai smooge
15:26:50 <bcotton> what's the blocker on getting the new developer certs?
15:26:57 <smooge> once those certificates are gotten, then I believe they need to be 'registered' with the appropriate groups (Apple?) and then the software signing process needs to be done
15:27:10 <smooge> time, energy, knowledge
15:27:56 <smooge> blockers are ^^
15:28:16 <bcotton> okay. anything i can to do help reduce the blockiness of any of those?
15:28:58 <smooge> time to make the proper certs, energy to stick through the process with Apple and Digicert and other things, intimate knowledge of what is needed versus 'well I did this N years ago and now none of that works'
15:29:15 <bcotton> i'll get right on that :-)
15:29:44 <smooge> bcotton, I don't think know.. I am speaking from reading the various emails so my view is incomplete and my answers may be all wrong
15:30:08 <bcotton> understood
15:30:36 <bcotton> Red Hat has a few apps in the App Store, so presumably there's someone who has the knowledge at least
15:31:03 <bcotton> #action bcotton to try to find a contact for Red Hat's apps in the App Store to see if they can provide some help
15:32:38 <bcotton> well i suppose that's all we can do about it right now
15:32:55 <mhroncok> ack
15:33:14 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting
15:33:16 <bcotton> #info We will meet again on 9 September at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting
15:34:12 <bcotton> thanks mhroncok and smooge!
15:34:15 <bcotton> #endmeeting