14:00:19 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
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14:00:19 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk
14:00:19 <pwhalen> #topic roll call
14:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson
14:00:40 <bcotton> .hello2
14:00:42 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
14:01:55 <pwhalen> Good morning bcotton :)
14:02:15 <bcotton> mornin', pwhalen. seems a little lonely in here this morning :-)
14:02:41 <pwhalen> looking that way so far
14:03:28 <bcotton> guess i brought too many donuts
14:03:34 <bcotton> (just kidding, there's no such thing)
14:03:55 <pwhalen> heh, my belly disagrees
14:04:12 <bcotton> that's Future Paul's problem :-)
14:04:31 <pwhalen> heh :)
14:04:48 * pbrobinson is here
14:05:12 * bcotton hands pbrobinson donuts
14:05:27 <pbrobinson> thanks bcotton
14:06:03 <pwhalen> ok, lets get started
14:06:12 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:06:12 <pwhalen> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/
14:06:48 * bcotton has things!
14:07:04 <pwhalen> all yours..
14:07:25 <bcotton> #info The PRD is now updated with all of the information necessary for the Edition Promotion Process
14:07:49 <bcotton> #info bcotton has a draft of website content
14:07:51 <bcotton> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/SLXJNOADG2DFKIOEDGFBMPJBTL5G6JDK/
14:08:03 <bcotton> #action bcotton to open a design ticket to request art to match the words
14:08:27 <bcotton> #info Please provide feedback by the end of this weekend for major changes (we can continue to tweak wording forever)
14:08:57 <bcotton> #action bcotton to write a (very late) F33 System-Wide Change proposal to formalize the promotion process
14:09:00 <bcotton> EOF
14:12:20 <pwhalen> bcotton: the mailing list link opens to a thread about f33 changes in comparison to older releases
14:12:28 <bcotton> GRRRR
14:12:32 <bcotton> #undo
14:12:32 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by bcotton at 14:08:57 : bcotton to write a (very late) F33 System-Wide Change proposal to formalize the promotion process
14:12:37 <bcotton> #undo
14:12:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by bcotton at 14:08:27 : Please provide feedback by the end of this weekend for major changes (we can continue to tweak wording forever)
14:12:39 <bcotton> #undo
14:12:39 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by bcotton at 14:08:03 : bcotton to open a design ticket to request art to match the words
14:12:41 <bcotton> #undo
14:12:41 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x7fb1a1400590>
14:12:51 <bcotton> okay, let's try this again with actually copying the right text
14:13:02 <bcotton> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ft-zYFLFdVeEou9QiqGsMy2Z1JLz5OOHWzDMVgTI-6w/edit?usp=sharing
14:13:09 <bcotton> #action bcotton to open a design ticket to request art to match the words
14:13:13 <bcotton> #info Please provide feedback by the end of this weekend for major changes (we can continue to tweak wording forever)
14:13:21 <bcotton> #action bcotton to write a (very late) F33 System-Wide Change proposal to formalize the promotion process
14:13:28 <bcotton> EOF (again)
14:13:46 <pwhalen> thx :)
14:14:51 <pwhalen> I took a look at the website text yesterday, looks great. Thanks for putting that together.
14:15:06 <bcotton> :-D happy to help
14:16:23 <pwhalen> Anyone have anything else for admin?
14:17:18 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 32 status ====
14:20:10 <pwhalen> Sadly yesterdays compose failed
14:20:31 <tdawson> I'm not seeing any successful f32 builds for the past couple of weeks.
14:21:56 <pwhalen> Right, its been a while. Hopefully get to the bottom of it soon.
14:22:05 <pwhalen> Has anyone hit any issues in F32?
14:22:59 <tdawson> I haven't
14:25:04 <pwhalen> #info Still hitting some compose issues in F32.
14:26:02 <pwhalen> tdawson: are you still getting updates in f32?
14:26:35 <tdawson> I think so, but haven't tried this week.
14:26:59 <tdawson> I actually have some time this week, so I'll try doing some updates.
14:27:00 <pwhalen> ok, I think so too but will look a little closer
14:27:06 <pwhalen> thx
14:27:16 <pwhalen> tdawson++
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14:27:38 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 33 status ====
14:32:30 <pwhalen> #info No new F33 Iot compose
14:32:34 <tdawson> I haven't seen any successful f32 composes for the past couple of weeks either.  Is the last one (from 7/09) in a state that I should test it?
14:32:51 <pwhalen> systemd issue previously discussed is now fixed (bz#1857530), so it should be working now
14:33:31 <tdawson> OK, I'll give it a test.
14:33:55 <pwhalen> fix just landed this week, so hopefully next compose works.
14:34:32 <tdawson> Cool ... that would be nice.
14:36:22 <pwhalen> tdawson: looking back, I think 07/09 was where we hit the systemd bug I mentioned, 07/08 should work
14:36:44 <tdawson> Ah, ok.  Good to know.  I'll try that one.
14:36:51 <pwhalen> 07/08 was also tested in openqa and working
14:37:23 <pwhalen> so fingers crossed, we should have a new compose this week, unless I am forgetting about another issue.
14:37:45 <pwhalen> Anything else for F33?
14:38:22 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== Open Floor ====
14:39:21 <tdawson> One question.  armhfp ... does it look like that is comeing along?
14:39:52 <pwhalen> I think someone is working on it now, but I dont know where they are with it.
14:40:00 <tdawson> ok
14:40:47 <tdawson> Looking at things, those are the machines I'm most likely to deploy long term to.
14:40:54 <tdawson> But, I'm not in a rush.
14:41:13 <pwhalen> same, I have a bunch of armhfp machines I could use.
14:41:49 <tdawson> Yep ... and since they use much less power, I'm more likely to use them.
14:42:30 <tdawson> Or, at least mine use much less power.
14:42:40 <pwhalen> Ok, hopefully we have more to discuss next week! Thanks for coming all.
14:42:43 <pwhalen> #endmeeting