05:31:28 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
05:31:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Feb 11 05:31:28 2020 UTC.
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05:31:29 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:31:29 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:31:29 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2020-02-11
05:31:54 <vishal_vvr> Hi
05:32:08 <suanand> hi ..
05:32:46 <petersen> 🙋‍♂️️
05:34:01 <paragan> Hi all
05:34:13 <paragan> Welcome to today's meeting, let's go through agenda items
05:34:16 <petersen> We seem low on numbers today
05:34:52 <paragan> #chair vishal_vvr suanand petersen
05:34:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen suanand vishal_vvr
05:35:18 <paragan> yeah but no issues, let's have some quick discussion on our work
05:35:46 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:36:22 <paragan> We have now started getting Fedora 32 composes
05:37:04 <paragan> I am testing Workstation and Silverblue iso images from past 4 days but they are not booting
05:37:26 <petersen> Is there any bug filed?
05:37:36 <paragan> I think I found finally related bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1801353
05:37:55 <paragan> need to go through it
05:39:33 <pyadav> hi
05:39:39 <paragan> #chair pyadav
05:39:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen pyadav suanand vishal_vvr
05:40:10 <paragan> we will check that bug for any progress or workaround to boot rawhide kernel
05:41:19 <petersen> paragan: thanks for the bug link
05:41:42 <petersen> Vaguely sounds like upgrading to latest Rawhide might work...
05:41:54 <paragan> I think so
05:42:22 <paragan> but need to make sure have only working kernel
05:42:27 <petersen> Which would still be useful
05:42:44 <petersen> According to comment from cmurphy at least
05:43:19 <paragan> oh okay, I only read comment#14
05:43:52 <epico> hi
05:44:10 <paragan> #chair epico
05:44:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico paragan petersen pyadav suanand vishal_vvr
05:44:32 <petersen> and some of the later comments from Adam too
05:45:45 <paragan> also, FTBFS bugs have been already reported, so in case if you have got any such bugs
05:45:57 <paragan> try to soon fix them first.
05:47:08 <paragan> Today, Fedora 32 schedule has got 3 milestones
05:47:18 <paragan> #info 2020-02-11 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
05:47:41 <paragan> This mean Change bugzilla should be moved to MODIFIED state
05:47:57 <paragan> your Change implementation is already done in F32
05:48:22 * petersen deletes his fcos vm to make some room for rawhide ;-(
05:49:19 <paragan> ha ha
05:51:27 <petersen> Hmm or I could rebase my SB vm too hmm
05:51:49 <paragan> #info 2020-02-11 Branch Fedora 32 from Rawhide
05:52:00 <paragan> Branching will be scheduled today
05:52:08 <paragan> Remember after branching any changes done in F32 branch should be done in master branch as well
05:53:54 <paragan> the 3rd one I don't understand
05:54:17 <paragan> #info 2020-02-11 Post-branch Freeze (end date approximate)
05:54:24 <paragan> from https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-32/f-32-key-tasks.html
05:55:52 <paragan> this is all that covers this topic information
05:57:01 <petersen> 3rd one?
05:57:40 <paragan> milestones for todat
05:58:54 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issue
05:58:54 <paragan> #info #116: Fedora 30 Bug triaging (pravins)
05:58:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/116
05:59:44 <paragan> this issue is to track for any reported bugs that are not yet fixed/triaged
06:00:00 <petersen> paragan: ah right dunno - maybe for stabilization?
06:00:19 <paragan> oh maybe
06:01:00 <paragan> the bug count for F30 is 39 again today
06:01:59 <paragan> good to triage the bugs
06:03:00 <petersen> Yes, let's start with our own bugs also
06:03:19 <petersen> Also 2 bugs in Verified... a state not used for Fedora
06:03:33 <petersen> Some quite interesting bugs there actually
06:04:03 <petersen> If progress is slow we should really look at a few bugs directly together every meeting
06:04:57 <paragan> Okay
06:05:06 <paragan> thanks
06:05:23 <vishal_vvr> +1 petersen
06:06:40 <petersen> I went ahead and closed them - but the verification much appreciated
06:07:17 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:07:43 <petersen> I hope we see more reduction by next meeting
06:09:06 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
06:09:06 <paragan> #info #115: Tracker for Fedora 32 Changes (pnemade)
06:09:06 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/115
06:09:59 <paragan> epico, you Change implementation is completed in F32/rawhide?
06:10:47 <epico> bitmap-fonts and ucs-miscfixed-fonts are built.
06:11:20 <paragan> aha
06:12:00 <paragan> Just to recap, we have got 2 Changes approved
06:12:01 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FontLanguageProvidesToLangpacks
06:12:03 <epico> terminus-fonts already provides OpenType fonts, maybe improve it later.
06:12:05 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ProvideOpenTypeBitmapFonts
06:12:39 <epico> maybe it is okay to move the bug to MODIFIED today.
06:13:04 <epico> terminus-fonts PR is pending.
06:15:20 <paragan> oh the same person who improved your script, maintains terminus-fonts
06:15:35 <epico> right
06:15:39 <paragan> yeah I think you should move bug to MODIFIED today
06:16:31 <epico> sure, let me comment and move the bug.
06:16:43 <paragan> cool
06:16:54 <paragan> epico, thanks
06:17:15 <epico> welcome
06:17:23 <paragan> about other Change, langpacks, its already completed and in MODIFIED state
06:17:43 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:18:15 <paragan> #info #117: Fedora 32 i18n test day  (pnemade)
06:18:15 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/117
06:18:23 <paragan> #chair
06:18:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico paragan petersen pyadav suanand vishal_vvr
06:18:48 <paragan> #info note we have scheduled 10th March as F32 i18n test day
06:19:52 <paragan> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-03-10_I18N_Test_Day
06:20:26 <paragan> please make sure you will be available on that day or later days in that week to complete this test day
06:20:55 <suanand__> (sure)
06:21:03 <pyadav> sure
06:21:35 <paragan> cool, thanks
06:21:55 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:22:31 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:22:37 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:23:53 <petersen> Probably don't want to hear, but when I woke this morning another fonts langpack occurred to me
06:25:19 <paragan> sorry can you elaborate more?
06:25:24 <petersen> Sure
06:26:08 <petersen> Well I haven't thought more about it but idea is basically: langpacks-fonts-xx
06:26:34 <petersen> Which would pull in the other default fonts and langpacks-core-font-xx
06:26:52 <petersen> Anyway don't worry not thinking about f32 :)
06:26:58 <paragan> aha
06:27:19 <petersen> Though we could if we think it's useful enough
06:27:19 <paragan> so kind of superset of fonts that particular language
06:27:24 <petersen> Right
06:27:35 <paragan> okay
06:27:48 <petersen> Basically langpacks for full fonts only
06:28:24 <petersen> I think mostly the fonts are already in langpacks-xx
06:28:29 <petersen> listed
06:28:58 <petersen> Anyway maybe I file an rfe later and we can ponder and discuss more if it is needed
06:29:19 <paragan> sure
06:29:34 <paragan> thanks
06:29:48 <petersen> It seems useful to me anyone in come circumstances
06:29:58 <petersen> s/anyone/anyway/
06:30:17 <paragan> okay
06:30:41 <petersen> Though it does add one more layer as I somehow expected... 8-)
06:31:55 * petersen installed F31-WORK-x86_64-LIVE-20200206.iso
06:32:58 <paragan> aha
06:33:09 <paragan> anything more to discuss, else we can stop here
06:33:36 <petersen> Dunno if this is also a chance to split off fonts to a separate meta source package
06:33:54 <paragan> hmm
06:34:06 <paragan> we can think on that
06:34:10 <epico> +1
06:34:50 <epico> maybe some meta package for langpack-core-fonts...
06:35:27 <epico> then packagekit can install fonts only when needed.
06:36:01 <epico> without install ime, etc.
06:37:35 <petersen> epico: well large part of that is already in f32, or maybe you mean more than that?
06:37:45 <paragan> let's check the F32 langpacks change functionality
06:38:58 <epico> sorry, maybe I missed the information...
06:39:14 <petersen> np at all - ideas always welcome
06:39:43 <paragan> yes ideas are welcome, keep it coming :)
06:40:21 <epico> sure :)
06:40:28 <petersen> I just thought if packagekit could provide more info we would know what kind of face was required: sans or mono or serif etc
06:40:45 <petersen> But that looks difficult...
06:41:29 <petersen> f32 langpacks-core-font only really covers Sans
06:41:59 <petersen> But langpacks-fonts could provide Mono and Serif too
06:42:14 <petersen> Not sure what we should do with emoji and math
06:42:38 <petersen> Anyway we are out of time
06:43:08 <paragan> Okay we can think on it
06:43:21 <paragan> closing this meeting now
06:43:30 <paragan> #endmeeting