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13:00:08 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine
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13:00:08 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
13:00:08 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew bcotton misc
13:00:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew misc ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
13:00:15 <asamalik> .hello2
13:00:16 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
13:01:16 <rwaltr> Hello!
13:01:16 * cverna waive
13:01:23 <bcotton> .hello2
13:01:25 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
13:01:32 <stickster> .hello pfrields
13:01:41 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
13:02:21 <rwaltr> .hello rwaltr
13:02:22 <zodbot> rwaltr: rwaltr 'Ryan W Walter' <rwalt@pm.me>
13:02:40 <asamalik> hey everyone!
13:02:49 <asamalik> #topic Agenda
13:02:53 <asamalik> #info Fedora Magazine has moved to a new Editorial Workflow
13:02:53 <asamalik> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
13:02:54 <asamalik> #info Following is the meeting agenda that is a slightly different than before:
13:02:54 <asamalik> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
13:02:54 <asamalik> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
13:02:54 <asamalik> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
13:02:54 <asamalik> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
13:02:55 <asamalik> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
13:02:55 <asamalik> #info -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
13:02:56 <asamalik> #info -- 7/ Open floor --
13:03:39 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
13:03:55 <asamalik> #info Week of Oct 28: 161.5K pageviews -- roughly a double of the average, seems like releasing new Fedora releases works for us well! :-)
13:04:08 <bcotton> let's do a release every week!
13:04:13 <asamalik> bcotton++
13:04:13 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for bcotton changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:04:21 <asamalik> so cookies are back!
13:04:44 <stickster> That doesn't sound hard! :-D
13:04:46 <cverna> asamalik++ stickster++ bcotton++ ryanlerch++
13:04:46 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for asamalik changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:04:50 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for pfrields changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:04:52 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for bcotton changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:04:53 <cverna> \o/
13:04:55 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:05:30 <cverna> that's it I am out of cookies again
13:05:30 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup
13:05:34 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
13:05:34 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:05:36 <stickster> Oh yeah?!? asamalik++ cverna++ bcotton++ ryanlerch++
13:05:36 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for asamalik changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:05:39 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for cverna changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:05:43 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for bcotton changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:05:45 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:05:49 <cverna> cookie party
13:05:57 <asamalik> lol
13:06:16 <rwaltr> That is a lot of cookies.
13:06:23 <bcotton> rwaltr++
13:06:23 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for rwaltr changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:06:26 <cverna> rwaltr++
13:06:26 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for rwaltr changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:06:30 <cverna> :)
13:07:27 <asamalik> bcotton++ cverna++ stickster++ ryanlerch++ rwaltr++
13:07:28 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for cverna changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:07:31 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for pfrields changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:07:34 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:07:37 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for rwaltr changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:07:41 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY!
13:07:54 <asamalik> so now that's all the important work have been done, let's have some fun instead with kanban cards!
13:08:02 <cverna> lol
13:08:21 <asamalik> #info -- #23 Advanced Ansible to manage Linux workstations with swiss-army --
13:08:25 <asamalik> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/23?kanban-status=191
13:09:50 <stickster> Yujp
13:10:05 <stickster> I didn't get any note back from jwf on this
13:10:10 <asamalik> looks like Justin is busy with other stuff, let's move this one back to the start so we don't need to go over it every week and he can pick it up whenever he's ready :)
13:10:34 <stickster> Agreed
13:11:03 <asamalik> #info -- #95 Share Fedora --
13:11:08 <asamalik> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/95?kanban-status=191
13:11:31 <asamalik> this one has been moved to in progress 2 days ago, so let's just give the author time :)
13:11:52 <asamalik> #info -- #93 Setting up and configuring the sway window manager --
13:11:54 <asamalik> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/93?kanban-status=191
13:12:01 <asamalik> the same here!
13:12:17 <asamalik> #info -- #82 [3-5] cool terminal pagers --
13:12:19 <asamalik> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/82?kanban-status=191
13:13:38 <stickster> This looks unfinished still -- did someone email author last time?
13:13:58 <asamalik> I have just added the author to the board as a writer and assigned them to the card
13:14:36 <asamalik> stickster: I don't remeber doing that
13:14:53 <stickster> asamalik: I'll put a comment in the card -- it's sending out mail notices correctly, right?
13:15:07 <asamalik> yep! that would be great, thanks stickster
13:15:32 <asamalik> maybe you could mention the author (@jaek) just to be sure
13:15:45 <asamalik> and that's all in progress!
13:16:12 <stickster> done
13:16:33 <asamalik> stickster: see? no cookie for you now for another 6 months
13:16:39 <stickster> hee he
13:16:47 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
13:16:51 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
13:16:51 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:17:04 <asamalik> wow 4 ready to review!
13:17:16 <asamalik> #info -- #97 Edit Images on Fedora Easily With GIMP --
13:17:20 <asamalik> #link https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/us/97?kanban-status=196
13:17:25 <stickster> The board may not be totally caught up with the Wordpress instance either
13:17:55 <asamalik> stickster: is there more in progress / to review?
13:19:42 <asamalik> for the #97, I think that one is ready
13:19:47 <asamalik> what others think?
13:20:22 <stickster> sorry asamalik -- I was making missing cards, we got a bunch of submissions while we weren't looking! :-D
13:20:42 <bcotton> i haven't looked at the articles in that column yet, but i'll take #77 and look it over today or tomorrow. and maybe some others if no one has gotten to them yet
13:20:57 <asamalik> stickster: oh wow that's a lot of cards!
13:20:58 <stickster> Sure, it's a simple article but it looks ready
13:21:14 <bcotton> for #101, should we push it back to the author and see about updating it for f31?
13:21:43 <asamalik> bcotton: cool!
13:21:50 <asamalik> bcotton: re #101: that would make sense
13:22:05 <stickster> bcotton: yes. We also need to ask the authors to put themselves on Taiga
13:22:13 <bcotton> okay, i'll follow up with the author on 101
13:22:54 <asamalik> bcotton: thanks
13:23:20 <asamalik> so we think the 97 is ready? let me move it
13:23:37 <stickster> I think 100 will probably be ready, Shaun has been slaying it on these Cockpit articles
13:24:09 <asamalik> stickster: can you please put the url in the card if you have it?
13:24:31 <stickster> Just did it. I can edit this one, image, and schedule too
13:24:44 <asamalik> (and maybe we don't need to go 1 by one here, let's just see what we can move and see what happens)
13:24:54 <asamalik> stickster++
13:25:14 <asamalik> I'll take the gimp one then
13:25:32 * asamalik is looking at 45
13:26:02 * stickster looking at #102 as well
13:26:25 <stickster> #action stickster edit/image/schedule #100 (service mgmt on Cockpit)
13:26:28 <asamalik> 45 looks good to me
13:27:09 <stickster> #action stickster edit/image/schedule #102 (make VMs with libvirt+Cockpit) -- will probably hold this for at least a week after #100 so we don't become Cockpit Magazine :-D
13:27:53 <asamalik> heh, that works :D
13:28:16 <bcotton> asamalik++ for writing the "how to write for fedora magazine" article. we have so much good content in the pipeline
13:28:18 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for asamalik changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
13:28:26 <asamalik> \o/
13:28:35 <asamalik> yep looks like we have content for over 2 weeks now
13:28:59 <rwaltr> I actually joined in because of that article, So Thank yall for making the call out!
13:29:01 <asamalik> bcotton++ I think you made me write it back then so thank you too :D
13:29:43 <asamalik> rwaltr: that's great to hear! so is there anything in particular you'd like to help with? or are you still observing and deciding? :)
13:30:32 <rwaltr> The latter, The toolbox one went quickly because I already use it.
13:31:37 <rwaltr> I'm relatively new to the online writing scene so I am still learning about which type of posts I am best at,
13:32:21 <stickster> rwaltr: Are you able to login to our tracking board at https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban ?
13:32:50 <stickster> (login at top right, and use OpenID connect on the login screen to provide your Fedora username + password -- that should do it
13:32:50 <rwaltr> stickster I am.
13:32:52 <asamalik> rwaltr: that's fair. So, welcome, and let me know if you have any ideas or questions :)
13:33:53 <rwaltr> Thank you! Glad to be apart of the team! :)
13:33:57 <asamalik> btw can anyone see the #69 in Wordpress? I just can't find it
13:34:00 <stickster> Thanks for contributing rwaltr!
13:34:02 <rwaltr> a part*
13:34:53 <stickster> asamalik: I can't either. Doesn't look like it's been created as a draft yet
13:35:18 <asamalik> stickster: thanks for confirming, so I'll ask the author in the card
13:35:24 <rwaltr> Looking at the history it went directly from spec to review,
13:35:34 <bcotton> what rwaltr said
13:35:40 <stickster> yeah
13:36:00 <stickster> suggest we move back to in progress and then comment to author in card to let them know they can write it
13:36:14 <bcotton> +1
13:36:45 <asamalik> oh, good catch, I've just commented in the card
13:36:56 <asamalik> sure, let me move it also
13:37:15 <bcotton> i think we have some improvements to make in our workflow docs. i'll try to do that sometime this week maybe?
13:37:30 * bcotton really needs to keep his mouth shut
13:38:02 * asamalik is going to action bcotton quickly before he changes his mind and then thanks him to pressure him to actually do it
13:38:40 <asamalik> bcotton: but seriously, if you see something there and have time to fix it, I'd be glad
13:39:14 <asamalik> ok, anyway! let's move on
13:39:21 <asamalik> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
13:39:25 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
13:39:25 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:39:35 <asamalik> we've just went through all of those right?
13:39:44 <asamalik> and people even volunteered to edit and make images
13:40:32 <asamalik> so maybe let's just skip to the publishing schedule
13:40:37 <asamalik> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
13:40:43 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
13:40:43 <asamalik> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
13:40:43 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
13:41:09 <stickster> bcotton: Was the tuning article supposed to go out today?
13:41:14 <stickster> I thought that was on last week's schedule
13:41:26 <bcotton> i think it was what we agreed on for today, yeah
13:41:40 <stickster> Needs an edit still -- if you can do it today we can push tomorrow
13:41:42 <bcotton> unless i looked at the logs wrong, which is entirely possible
13:41:45 <stickster> I'll work on something for Friday
13:42:25 <bcotton> stickster: something specific it needs? i gave an editorial pass on it already and handed it to ryanlerch for image
13:45:10 <stickster> bcotton: Take a look at the first sentence :-)
13:45:37 <bcotton> d'oh
13:45:40 <stickster> There are a bunch of other ESL things like that throughout.
13:45:55 <bcotton> hm, i wonder if i edited the autosave then
13:46:08 <bcotton> or didn't save my edits?
13:46:15 <stickster> Yeah, it didn't look edited to me which was why I ASSuMEd you didn't get to it yet
13:46:18 <bcotton> because i know i cleaned up a lot of stuff
13:46:30 <bcotton> i mean it could also be that i'm an idiot, per our conversation last night
13:46:32 <stickster> I hate it when that happens :-(
13:46:33 <bcotton> but yeah, i'll do it today
13:46:36 <stickster> That makes two of us
13:46:47 <stickster> YAY I HAVE A FRIEND IN MY CLUB :-D
13:47:11 <asamalik> what happened to me once was that I was editing and my changes were just disappearing from the editor while I was making them... disappearing a few paragraphs above
13:47:31 <stickster> I wonder if this is an issue with two people having editing sessions open or something.
13:47:42 <stickster> If so, totally annoying :-(
13:47:44 <bcotton> no, it yells at you for that
13:47:52 <stickster> Yeah, you're right.
13:47:55 <asamalik> or one person having two sessions and not getting the "this other person is now editing, take over?" dialogue
13:48:06 <stickster> asamalik: How are we doing on schedule then?
13:48:17 <asamalik> very badly because I'm discussing wordpress here
13:48:19 <asamalik> let me fix that
13:48:29 <stickster> I can have #100 ready for Friday
13:48:35 <asamalik> cool!
13:49:08 <asamalik> I'll take gimp for Monday
13:49:35 <bcotton> #27 is available for whenever, unless someone wants to redo the image
13:49:58 <asamalik> and I should do the #20 as well at some point
13:50:12 <asamalik> bcotton: true, let put that on Monday then and I'll do mine for Wednesday
13:50:45 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 8 Nov, #100 Cockpit (stickster:edit/stickster:image) -- Monday 11 Nov, #27 (all done) -- Wednesday 13 Nov, #97 GIMP (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image)
13:51:11 <bcotton> +1
13:51:25 <asamalik> and maybe we can put the next publishing schedule together on the list and have more time next meeting for open floor
13:51:34 <bcotton> +1 to that too
13:51:46 <cverna> +1 too
13:52:31 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 8 Nov, #100 Cockpit (stickster:edit/stickster:image) -- Monday 11 Nov, #27 (all done) -- Wednesday 13 Nov, #97 GIMP (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image)
13:52:53 <stickster> +1 here
13:52:59 <asamalik> let's skip going through the proposals, too, as we're doing a good job async
13:53:02 <asamalik> #topic 7/ Open floor
13:53:39 <asamalik> #action asamalik to propose a publishing schedule for next week on the list, so we have more time for open floor in the meeting
13:53:53 <asamalik> anything else anyone?
13:54:09 <bcotton> nothing that can fit in 5-6 minutes :-)
13:54:19 <stickster> bcotton: If you get the tuning thing done for tomorrow, let me know and I can be ready to do socials for it
13:54:19 <bcotton> i have some ideas that i'll post to the mailing list
13:54:25 <stickster> nothing here either.
13:54:27 <bcotton> stickster: ack
13:54:32 <stickster> nice to have material to work with this time!
13:54:39 <asamalik> cool!
13:54:59 <asamalik> all right, here's your 5 mins back, thanks for coming!
13:55:12 <asamalik> #endmeeting