12:00:30 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 12:00:30 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 11 12:00:30 2019 UTC. 12:00:30 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:30 <zodbot> The chair is asamalik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:30 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:30 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 12:00:30 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine 12:00:30 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 12:00:30 <asamalik> #topic Roll call 12:00:30 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew bcotton 12:00:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew ryanlerch stickster sub_pop 12:00:40 <misc> o/ 12:00:46 <stickster> .hello pfrields 12:00:47 <stickster> o/ 12:00:48 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 12:00:50 <asamalik> .hello2 12:00:51 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com> 12:00:54 <misc> .hello 12:00:54 <zodbot> misc: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 12:00:59 <misc> .hello2 12:01:02 <zodbot> misc: misc 'None' <misc@zarb.org> 12:01:10 <asamalik> .chair misc 12:01:10 <zodbot> misc is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them. 12:01:13 <stickster> Hi None 12:01:34 <stickster> haha 12:01:36 <stickster> #chair misc 12:01:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew misc ryanlerch stickster sub_pop 12:01:36 <asamalik> heh :D 12:02:25 <bcotton> .hello2 12:02:28 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 12:03:28 <asamalik> #topic Last week's stats 12:03:40 <cverna> hello o/ 12:03:54 <asamalik> #info Week of September 2: > 57.4K pageviews -- down from last week, slightly below average 12:04:11 <stickster> Rats 12:04:49 <stickster> I wonder how we're doing so far this week 12:05:04 <cverna> our pageviews are not really good recently, I am not sure why :( 12:06:24 <bcotton> need moar clickbait :-) 12:06:27 * bcotton ducks 12:06:49 <asamalik> stickster: it looks roughly the same for Monday and Tuesday so far 12:06:51 <stickster> It may be, bcotton 12:07:13 <stickster> Maybe we need some more love on Reddit or other semi-social media things 12:07:58 <stickster> We do have a GNOME article coming on Friday hopefully, those always do very well 12:08:57 <asamalik> yeah the desktop ones are always popular 12:10:18 <asamalik> let's discuss ideas in the end 12:10:21 <asamalik> #topic Pending review posts 12:10:21 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post 12:10:24 <stickster> +1 12:10:28 <asamalik> #info nothing here 12:10:40 <asamalik> #topic Drafts to review 12:10:40 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post 12:11:20 <asamalik> #info --- GNOME 3.34 released --- 12:11:24 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=29299&preview=true 12:11:31 <asamalik> so this should go on Friday right? 12:12:08 <stickster> asamalik: Yes -- The idea is that GNOME releases tomorrow (Thursday) 12:12:34 <asamalik> #info GNOME is about to release tomorrow, this article goes out Friday 12:12:44 <stickster> So I was going to try and finish that article (since ryanlerch is not available due to the fires in QLD Australia taking out his internet) tomorrow 12:12:58 <asamalik> I don't see any other one we haven't seen already 12:14:16 <stickster> How'd we do on inviting others to write? 12:15:04 <stickster> Oh, the rsync article now has a draft! 12:15:21 <stickster> it's here at https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=28647&preview=1&_ppp=97193d7b46 12:16:00 <asamalik> oh, I saw Last Modified 2019/08/28 and thought there were no updates! 12:16:11 <asamalik> #info --- The Rsync Misconception --- 12:16:26 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=28647&preview=1&_ppp=97193d7b46 12:16:37 <stickster> Yeah me too, but since the author emailed the list I double checked... yay! 12:17:55 <asamalik> oh did they? I can't see it there 12:18:24 <stickster> I can check my email. Maybe I'm the only one who saw it 12:18:32 <stickster> Point is, he got a draft done! 12:19:35 <asamalik> it's a good read! 12:19:38 * stickster finds it went just to him, and sends a reply to list 12:19:58 <stickster> Anyone want to volunteer to edit for grammar, style, etc.? 12:20:00 <asamalik> happy to edit 12:20:20 <asamalik> yeah it has basically no formatting but I'm very happy to add all of that 12:20:31 <asamalik> #action asamalik edit the rsync article 12:21:28 <stickster> Nifty. Adam, I can do an image for you if needed since Ryan is out. Or maybe someone else would like to pitch that in? 12:21:53 <asamalik> I could do that, too 12:22:58 <asamalik> ok taking it! 12:23:17 <asamalik> #action asamalik will make an image for the rsync article 12:23:44 <cverna> jakfrost: o/ 12:23:52 <jakfrost> cverna:o/ 12:24:10 <jakfrost> sorry I'm late 12:24:24 * asamalik just checked the other ones but no updates there 12:24:33 <asamalik> #topic Pitches to approve 12:24:33 <asamalik> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post 12:24:43 <stickster> no worries jakfrost 12:24:45 <stickster> #chair jakfrost 12:24:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc ryanlerch stickster sub_pop 12:25:32 <stickster> Yeah, here I definitely don't see anything new 12:25:34 <asamalik> I don't think there is anything new in Wordpress, but I remember seeing a few on the list 12:26:12 <asamalik> #info --- CodeReady Containers, OCP 4.1 and solutions on Fedora 30 server --- 12:26:31 <asamalik> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/HQPXPMALJVDA2U5VKDA2ESDVREQOH53U/ 12:26:33 <jakfrost> asamalik: That sounds interesting 12:26:42 <cverna> looks cool 12:28:04 <stickster> That does sound interesting! 12:28:05 <asamalik> that looks like multiple articles 12:28:10 <asamalik> yep! 12:28:11 <asamalik> +1 12:28:42 <cverna> +1 too 12:28:43 <jakfrost> +1 12:29:08 <stickster> Some of the stuff in that Github link is nonsense though 12:29:30 <stickster> So we'd need to be careful about review. For instance the Python solution on RHEL8 doesn't seem right to me. 12:30:38 <stickster> Oh wait -- it is right. My bad. 12:30:45 <stickster> So yay! 12:30:49 <asamalik> do you mean the alterntaives? 12:31:02 <asamalik> ha, ok! 12:31:02 <stickster> Yeah, that didn't seem right, but I think in retrospect it may be. 12:31:29 <stickster> Anyway, what do we need to do to get him started on an article with a proper scope? 12:31:54 <asamalik> I remember having conversation about that somewhere and it's the right way to do it if I remember correctly 12:32:00 <asamalik> yes 12:32:19 <asamalik> do we want to recommend to start with something specific? 12:32:24 <asamalik> or just let him choose? 12:32:36 <stickster> Start with simpler things first if they're needed in order to do the more complex things 12:32:46 <jakfrost> there is a lot of information on the github link 12:32:50 <stickster> i.e. first things first... but otherwise I don't think order is important 12:33:01 <asamalik> there is :) 12:33:03 <stickster> jakfrost: Yeah, I don't think we want to reprint that. It's too much and too little explanation 12:33:36 <jakfrost> perhaps an intro with a good general overview of the goal and the tools being used to get there 12:33:38 <asamalik> #info pitch approved 12:33:43 <cverna> the openshift 4.1 would quite neat since this is the replacement for minishift 12:33:53 <jakfrost> is it 12:33:53 <asamalik> I guess that's probably why they're proposing it so they can add more explanations 12:34:13 <jakfrost> likely 12:34:21 <asamalik> anyone wants to email the author? 12:34:40 <jakfrost> sure I can this morning 12:34:55 <asamalik> thanks jakfrost! 12:35:07 <jakfrost> you are welcome 12:35:10 <asamalik> #info --- Setup a Wireguard VPN server and client --- 12:35:11 <stickster> Cool! 12:35:23 <asamalik> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/CECOF3WOVGDRUB3HRBNS7KH5MZSEIOAA/ 12:35:47 <asamalik> #undo 12:35:47 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x7f938da44f10> 12:35:48 <stickster> ^ This is a big +1 for me. This also has NM support now (or soon) AIUI 12:35:48 <asamalik> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CECOF3WOVGDRUB3HRBNS7KH5MZSEIOAA/#CECOF3WOVGDRUB3HRBNS7KH5MZSEIOAA 12:35:51 <asamalik> that's the whole thread 12:36:17 <asamalik> oh yes +1! 12:36:27 <jakfrost> +1 for me too 12:36:37 <asamalik> #info pitch approved 12:36:40 <stickster> I can email this one 12:36:45 <stickster> #action stickster email wireguard author 12:36:45 <asamalik> thanks stickster! 12:36:53 <asamalik> oh right 12:37:10 <asamalik> #action jakfrost email CodeReady Containers author 12:37:23 <asamalik> that's all the pitches 12:37:47 <asamalik> #topic Publishing schedule 12:38:03 <asamalik> so we have GNOME for Friday and rsync for Monday let's say 12:38:26 <asamalik> we're short one article and I'd, again, ask on the list! 12:39:21 <jakfrost> is there anything in the canned topics that I could write a quick article about 12:40:11 <asamalik> jakfrost: maybe something from the Starter Pitches https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=starter-pitches&post_type=post 12:40:31 <jakfrost> that is what I mean by canned topics 12:40:48 <asamalik> oh right :) 12:41:36 <jakfrost> no worries, I elected early on in life to use language as I see fit, doesn't always line up with others expectations 12:42:01 <jakfrost> I could try one on manual partitioning, but I am no SME 12:42:14 <stickster> jakfrost: if you don't see one you find easy, feel free to suggest something 12:42:47 <jakfrost> well I did the upgrade to silverblue from RHEL 8.1 beta, recently, that was entirely boring and predictable 12:43:19 <jakfrost> i'll look them over and choose one and let the mail list vote on it 12:43:28 <stickster> :thu👍 12:43:35 <asamalik> that works! 12:44:18 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 13 Sep, GNOME (stickster) -- Monday 16 Sep, rsync (asamalik) -- Wednesday 18 Sep, ??? (jakfrost) 12:44:27 <jakfrost> okay 12:44:34 <stickster> +1 12:44:38 <cverna> +1 12:44:43 <jakfrost> +1 12:44:46 <asamalik> +1 12:44:51 <stickster> I may also have an idea or two where I can throw some quick articles into draft for later use 12:44:59 <bcotton> +! 12:45:01 <bcotton> +1 also 12:45:12 <asamalik> stickster: awesome! 12:45:14 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 13 Sep, GNOME (stickster) -- Monday 16 Sep, rsync (asamalik) -- Wednesday 18 Sep, ??? (jakfrost) 12:45:39 <asamalik> #topic All other business (open floor) 12:45:47 <bcotton> o/ 12:45:54 <asamalik> so I have an update about the workflow 12:46:15 <asamalik> https://asamalik.fedorapeople.org/magazine-docs-new-workflow/ 12:46:30 <asamalik> I also posted it in the ticket https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine/issue/2 12:46:37 <asamalik> I think I'm ready with the docs 12:47:04 <cverna> looks great :-) 12:47:06 <asamalik> and I'll need to check permissions, but otherwise the board is ready, too 12:47:06 <cverna> asamalik++ 12:47:15 <jakfrost> asamalik++ 12:47:15 <zodbot> jakfrost: Karma for asamalik changed to 15 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 12:47:26 <asamalik> \o/ cookies! 12:47:55 <bcotton> asamalik++ 12:48:13 <asamalik> so if we're happy with that, I'd propose to do the move over the next week 12:48:23 <cverna> my cookie jar is desperately empty :( 12:48:43 <stickster> asamalik++ 12:48:49 <stickster> my cookie jar also runneth empth 12:48:57 <stickster> *empty. Can't type this morning apparently. 12:49:00 <bcotton> https://giphy.com/embed/3o72EXOSQxheWIVBfi 12:49:05 <jakfrost> I am devoid of cookies 12:49:20 <stickster> This looks great Adam! 12:49:30 <jakfrost> bcotton++ 12:49:57 <bcotton> +1 to the proposal 12:50:03 <stickster> asamalik: Does someone have to have a FAS account to open an issue on Magazine Taiga? 12:50:24 <asamalik> so I'll add a "we're moving to this new workflow" banner everywhere, merge the docs, do the move, remove the banner when done 12:50:36 <asamalik> ? 12:50:46 <asamalik> stickster: I think so, yes 12:51:00 <asamalik> stickster: but I left the mailing list option there for capturing ideas as well 12:51:00 <jakfrost> will that present a barrier for some? 12:51:02 <asamalik> exactly for that 12:51:05 <stickster> OK, needs a link for that then 12:51:22 <jakfrost> OK I see 12:51:23 <asamalik> stickster: it's there https://asamalik.fedorapeople.org/magazine-docs-new-workflow/fedora-magazine/workflow-article-proposal/#_submitting_an_idea 12:51:39 <stickster> Got an account/want an account? --> Taiga. Don't have an account? --> Email the list. 12:51:45 <asamalik> oh got it! 12:51:54 <jakfrost> +1 for the proposal 12:51:58 * asamalik really needs more coffee today 12:52:06 <stickster> Of course if someone emails the list without being a member, that will be moderated, but we can react to it at last. 12:52:25 <asamalik> right 12:52:33 <asamalik> I'll double check the perms 12:53:09 <stickster> There is a way to let anon users add an issue 12:53:17 <stickster> We could see if it causes spam problems and turn it off if so 12:53:34 <bcotton> stickster: i don't think so because of our FAS auth plugin 12:53:40 <asamalik> stickster: oh, cool, we could definitely try that 12:53:43 <asamalik> #action asamalik will proceed with the move to the new workflow while keeping the list updated about the progress 12:54:12 <bcotton> afaict, there are no unauthenticated writes possible on our instance, even if the UI makes you think that's possible 12:54:27 <bcotton> i could be wrong 12:54:35 <stickster> Yeah, you're right 12:54:54 <asamalik> bcotton: I'll check that out but it's probably true 12:55:36 <asamalik> all right, anything else? 12:55:36 <bcotton> similarly, the only way to say "any Fedora contributor can come along and add an issue" is to make it possible for allegedly unauthenticated users to create issues 12:55:48 <stickster> yup 12:56:00 * bcotton raised his hand at the beginning, but i can take it to the mailing list since it's almost the end of the hour 12:56:20 <stickster> bcotton: Sorry, didn't mean to run out clock on you, is it a quick one? 12:56:20 <asamalik> bcotton: oh sorry! 12:56:36 <bcotton> let's try 12:56:43 <stickster> Hopefully new workflow means we'll have more time for *this* section in future, and less on article next-steps 12:56:49 * asamalik didn't get that and just rudely spoke over bcotton! 12:57:01 <asamalik> stickster: yes! 12:57:05 <stickster> bcotton++ 12:57:15 <bcotton> so i was thinking about doing a "here are some fedora things you can contribute to as part of hacktoberfest" original idea for commblog, but i was thinking magazine might be a better venue 12:57:37 <asamalik> oh that sounds really cool 12:57:44 <stickster> If it's something where we want people from outside the community, and they have a reasonable chance of being able to get something done, I'm +1 12:57:49 <bcotton> but then i was writing it in my head during the meeting instead of paying attention and i thought a "here's a general intro to how you contribute to fedora" would be a good thing to have published before it so i could link to it 12:57:55 <asamalik> I'd say Magazine would be better for this for sure if it's targeted at new contributors also 12:57:57 <asamalik> +1 12:58:08 <bcotton> a quick google search didn't turn up anything we've published on this, but i didn't have time to dig through the archives 12:58:36 <stickster> We have https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-to-fedora-magazine/ but it's Magazine specific. 12:59:02 <asamalik> I like the general intro, too! 12:59:14 <stickster> I say go4it 12:59:25 <bcotton> dang, now i have to do it :p 12:59:34 <jakfrost> bcotton: good idea 12:59:35 <asamalik> we also have the whatcanidoinfedora.something page but an article would be grat 13:00:05 <jakfrost> there is not currently one single source for those separate links in the community that I have ever seen 13:00:06 <bcotton> okay, i'll try to have drafts done by end of next week. i'd like to get the hacktoberfest article out on 30 sept or 2 Oct so we give people enough time 13:00:12 <stickster> bcotton++ 13:00:34 <asamalik> bcotton++ 13:01:02 <asamalik> all right! 13:01:07 <asamalik> thanks everyone! 13:01:17 <jakfrost> good-bye 13:01:17 <cverna> thanks :) 13:01:20 <asamalik> #endmeeting