05:31:37 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
05:31:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Feb 12 05:31:37 2019 UTC.
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05:31:37 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
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05:31:38 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:31:38 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2019-02-12
05:31:51 <suanand> hi :)
05:31:53 <vishal_vvr> hi
05:31:53 <fujiwarat> hi
05:31:53 <pwu> hi
05:32:22 <mfabian> ☺
05:33:13 <paragan> #chair suanand vishal_vvr fujiwarat pwu mfabian
05:33:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat mfabian paragan pwu suanand vishal_vvr
05:34:35 <paragan> welcome to this meeting
05:34:52 <paragan> let's see first upcoming F30 Schedule milestones
05:34:59 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:35:19 <paragan> this month there are 2 milestones
05:35:21 <paragan> #info 2019-02-19 	Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
05:35:21 <paragan> #info 2019-02-19    Branch Fedora 30 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F31)
05:35:30 <juhp> hi
05:35:36 <paragan> #chair juhp
05:35:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pwu suanand vishal_vvr
05:36:00 <juhp> one week
05:37:10 <paragan> yes branching also happening after one week
05:37:44 <paragan> Last week we got issues with signing f30-rebuild tagged packages.
05:38:02 <paragan> This has been discussed on devel list and Fedora Infra team worked hard to fix those issues.
05:38:28 <paragan> Thanks to them and now we have composes for rawhide packages available for testing.
05:39:02 <paragan> Now we have FTBFS bugs also got reported for this F30 mass-rebuild.
05:39:39 <paragan> Check some of our bugs which have i18n keyword -> https://da.gd/BV80I
05:40:02 <paragan> that link showing 15 FTBFS bugs
05:40:21 <paragan> I think some are failed due to ttname package removal
05:41:48 <paragan> that can be fixed by removing relevant ttname lines in spec files
05:42:51 <paragan> #info Fedora 31 draft schedule is available for review, See https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/draft-fedora-31-schedule-available/
05:43:34 <juhp> aha
05:44:19 <paragan> Next month we have
05:44:20 <paragan> #info 2019-03-05 	Software Translation Deadline
05:44:20 <paragan> #info 2019-03-05 	Bodhi activation point
05:44:20 <paragan> #info 2019-03-05 	Beta Freeze (*)
05:44:20 <paragan> #info 2019-03-05 	Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
05:44:54 <paragan> any issues to discuss related to F30 schedule or any development issue for F30?
05:45:32 <paragan> if not then let's move to tickets
05:46:35 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues
05:46:35 <paragan> #info #104: Tracker for Fedora 30 Changes (pnemade)
05:46:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/104
05:47:05 <paragan> so we got total 2 Change proposals submitted.
05:47:26 <paragan> Langpacks is already in-progress development in rawhide
05:47:50 <paragan> for the ibus-typing-booster Change,
05:48:27 <paragan> F30 Change: Ibus-typing-booster default for Indian languages
05:48:27 <paragan> #info https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2063
05:48:27 <paragan> This ticket has been resolved as below yesterday in FESCo meeting.
05:48:51 <paragan> * AGREED: Ibus-typing-booster default for Indian language is delegated to the Workstation WG as they have the best understanding of the problem (+7,0,-0)
05:49:00 <paragan> * ACTION: otaylor will take the issue to the Workstation WG
05:49:37 <paragan> I think this need to wait if it can be accepted as F30 Change or F31 Change
05:49:49 <mfabian> I wrote a long mail to Owen Taylor yesterday, I think it is OK to defer this change to F31.
05:50:12 <paragan> aha
05:50:18 <mfabian> I will try to joun that Workstation WG meeting  though, maybe there is still a chance.
05:50:47 <paragan> mfabian, Okay thanks
05:51:09 <juhp> mfabian: well next one is in two weeks
05:51:27 <juhp> I think the decision may be offline
05:52:05 <juhp> in the last meeting was yesterday, that is why I was discussing afterwards with otaylor
05:52:15 <juhp> in fact the *
05:52:35 <paragan> hm okay
05:52:56 <juhp> Anyway looks like deferring to F31 most likely
05:53:23 <juhp> So we will be a bit low on Changes this time
05:53:42 <juhp> but that's okay I guess - next time we will have more
05:54:12 <paragan> juhp, sure thanks for the update
05:54:36 <paragan> moving to next ticket
05:57:14 <paragan> #info #105: Fedora 28 Bug triaging (pnemade)
05:57:15 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/105
05:57:53 <paragan> we pick this ticket every meeting to remind that there are still bugs reported against F28 that needs triaging
05:58:19 <paragan> so go through it and work accordingly
05:59:34 <juhp> It occurred to me it would be good to record the number of open bugs so we can see any progress there :)
06:00:21 <paragan> sure
06:01:05 <paragan> #info on 12th Feb we have 53 bugs reported against Fedora 28.
06:01:54 <juhp> Thanks
06:02:24 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:02:26 <paragan> #info #106: Fedora 30 i18n test day  (pnemade)
06:02:28 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/106
06:03:08 <paragan> #info this is to remind that we have F30 i18n test day on 19th March
06:03:20 <paragan> if you got any test case to update, please do so soon
06:04:10 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:05:03 <paragan> #info #108: add Fedora CI tests to our important packages (petersen)
06:05:03 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/108
06:05:44 <paragan> juhp, you want to add your comment here on this ticket
06:06:02 <juhp> ah
06:06:21 <juhp> I think we should come up with a list of packages to target initially
06:06:53 <juhp> ibus, fontconfig, pango, come to mind... which others?
06:07:20 <paragan> sure we can find some initial list of packages to add tests for CI
06:07:51 <juhp> Doesn't need to stop other packages also getting some CI tests
06:08:09 <paragan> :)
06:08:42 <paragan> thanks juhp
06:09:22 <juhp> Is there a list of critical path packages?
06:10:50 <paragan> not sure but this can be one way "dnf group info critical-path-gnome"
06:14:09 <paragan> if nothing more to discuss here then let's move to next topic
06:14:45 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:15:00 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:15:04 <suanand> #info - transtats deployed in Prod now - https://transtats.fedoraproject.org
06:15:20 * suanand thinks of some celebrations ..
06:16:59 <pwu> cool
06:17:03 <paragan> yay!!
06:17:06 <paragan> suanand++
06:17:08 <paragan> gr8 work
06:17:27 <juhp> suanand: yes good news!
06:17:39 <suanand> how people around think about celebration - when/how ?
06:18:19 <mfabian> suanand++
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06:18:38 <pwu> suanand++
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06:19:13 <juhp> Planning to share something about transtats?
06:19:43 <suanand> juhp: may be just a 15 mins of success stories and open discussions
06:21:18 <suanand> juhp, paragan: how about 5th March ? at PNQ first (maybe)?
06:22:09 <paragan> Sure
06:22:26 <juhp> suanand: fine - if it's not public then probably OT here
06:23:00 <juhp> Good idea to spread the word
06:23:09 <juhp> I think you also have a blog post?
06:23:15 <suanand> we can combine it with some public event too - but with which and when?
06:23:38 <suanand> Yeah it's here: http://sundeep.co.in/blog/2019/02/06/transtats-getting-started/
06:23:43 <juhp> Maybe another screencast?
06:23:46 <juhp> cool
06:25:14 <suanand> juhp - maybe (1) a small celebration in-office on 5th March, (2) mention in fedora meetup in PNQ and, (3) if possible some visibility at SIN ?
06:25:43 <juhp> okay let's discuss more offline I think
06:25:48 <suanand> sure
06:26:06 <paragan> I think we can close the meeting :)
06:26:14 <paragan> Thank you all who joined this meeting.
06:26:29 <paragan> #endmeeting