14:00:26 <pbrobinson> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
14:00:26 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 31 14:00:26 2018 UTC.
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14:00:26 <pbrobinson> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton
14:00:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson pwhalen
14:00:26 <pbrobinson> #topic roll call
14:00:36 <pbrobinson> morning all, who is about today?
14:00:38 * pwhalen is here
14:00:43 <puiterwijk> hello
14:00:48 <pbrobinson> I wonder how people will do with TZ changes
14:00:54 <lorbus> .hello2
14:00:55 <puiterwijk> pbrobinson: poorly
14:00:55 <zodbot> lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <cglombek@redhat.com>
14:00:55 <bcotton> .hello2
14:00:59 <puiterwijk> (is my prediction)
14:01:01 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
14:01:11 <pbrobinson> puiterwijk: like an IOS firmware update :-P
14:01:32 <puiterwijk> Is that one too early or too late? Never can tell with those timezone jokes :)
14:01:48 <pbrobinson> we'll give people a few mins to gather
14:01:49 <pwhalen> heh
14:02:08 <pbrobinson> depends on whether you were depending on your alarm clock or on ;-)
14:03:31 <RNM> Hello guys
14:03:43 <RNM> .hello2
14:03:44 <zodbot> RNM: Sorry, but you don't exist
14:04:24 <pbrobinson> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:05:29 <pbrobinson> so I think we're mostly good with process here
14:05:35 <pbrobinson> the PRD has been moved to docs
14:05:55 <pbrobinson> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/
14:06:53 <pbrobinson> and I'm going to do a final review and some updates to docs this week along with the final bits of of f29
14:08:00 <pbrobinson> #action pbrobinson to finish move of IoT docs from wiki to docs.fp.o and get redirects put in place rfrom the wiki
14:08:20 <pbrobinson> does anyone have anything to address here?
14:08:29 <pbrobinson> bcotton: pwhalen: ?
14:08:34 <bcotton> i'm good
14:09:06 * pwhalen has nothing
14:09:21 <pwhalen> let us know how we can assist
14:10:15 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: review of the docs.fp.o is the main piece bit that needs attention, addition/edits/updates/clarifications
14:10:18 <pbrobinson> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 29 status for IoT ====
14:11:17 <pbrobinson> so we've had a few issues here that need some fixes, I've been working on them the last day or so, last week or so I've had a lot of things in motion which caused time issues
14:12:22 <pbrobinson> I'll send out details soon to the list/irc channel with hopefully everything outstanding fixed
14:12:45 <pbrobinson> #info new compose out soon that should be our IoT RC for f29
14:12:47 <tdawson> pbrobinson: For the rpi bug, is there anything we can do to help other than test and say if it works for us?
14:13:04 <pbrobinson> tdawson: I'll know more later today
14:13:34 <tdawson> ok
14:13:35 <pbrobinson> we actually have around 3 or 4 bugs that I think we've almost unbundled
14:13:50 <pwhalen> right, was about to say that too
14:14:11 <pwhalen> I'll get some bz's filed today
14:14:58 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: can you communicate those on the irc channel when you do file them
14:15:32 <pbrobinson> does anyone else have any queries around f29?
14:15:45 <pbrobinson> I need also to test db410c and rock960
14:15:46 <pwhalen> will do
14:19:16 <pbrobinson> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 30 planning ====
14:20:24 <pbrobinson> so I need to get around to filing a bunch of changes here
14:20:50 <pbrobinson> I also want to track these in the kanban board so does anyone have any queries here?
14:21:02 <pbrobinson> I think this will be a good one for a week or two from now
14:21:09 <bcotton> are we still looking at making this a captial E edition for F30?
14:21:22 <pbrobinson> bcotton: absolutely!
14:21:30 <lorbus> just do it! :)
14:21:49 <lorbus> whoop whoop
14:23:48 <pbrobinson> anyone have anything else for F-30? Any queries, questions about features?
14:24:48 <pbrobinson> #info Fedora 30 will be tracked in kanban
14:24:52 <lorbus> is filing a self contained change necessary for adding greenboot in F30?
14:25:04 <pbrobinson> #info pbrobinson will file changes
14:25:18 <pbrobinson> lorbus: greenboot is already in the f30/rawhide compose ;-)
14:25:59 <bcotton> pbrobinson, lorbus still good to file the Change request to make the FPgM happy ;-)
14:26:00 <pbrobinson> I've not enabled the service by default yet but it's there to enable people to experiment with and provide feedback already
14:26:02 <lorbus> uhh nice. I should've probably communicated better that as of now, the auto-fallback scripts are not in the grub2 rpm
14:26:22 <pbrobinson> lorbus: yes, you mentioned that
14:26:27 <lorbus> they're back in upstream master but havent made it back into the pkg yet.
14:26:44 <lorbus> pbrobinson: perfect
14:26:55 <pbrobinson> #info greenboot is now in f30/rawhide composes, please provide feedback to lorbus and file some bugs :)
14:27:09 <lorbus> pbrobinson++
14:27:09 <zodbot> lorbus: Karma for pbrobinson changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:27:11 <pbrobinson> lorbus: back in upstream grub2?
14:27:41 <lorbus> they were removed and reworked due to a few problems with the grub scripting lang not supporting arithmetic operations..
14:28:24 <lorbus> long story. they're back in now, will push for a rebuild :)
14:28:33 <pbrobinson> yep, I remember, cool so they'll be back once pjones does his next rebase/build process
14:28:43 <lorbus> exactly
14:28:50 <pbrobinson> excellent!
14:28:55 <pbrobinson> lorbus++
14:28:55 <zodbot> pbrobinson: Karma for lorbus changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:29:01 <pbrobinson> looking forward to playing with that
14:29:11 <lorbus> =)
14:29:59 <lorbus> there are some changes coming soon, will have to look into integration with systemd's recent boot-complete.target addition
14:30:34 <lorbus> and nicer motd generation, too! so stay tuned!
14:30:38 <pbrobinson> that's great, just keep us in the loop, let us know if you have any queries
14:30:51 <pbrobinson> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ====
14:31:08 <pbrobinson> does anyone have anything for a general open floor
14:31:42 * bcotton salutes general open floor
14:31:54 <bcotton> i don't have anything, i just wanted to make that joke
14:32:11 <pwhalen> its pretty good. :)
14:32:17 <bexelbie> don't encourage him :P
14:32:20 <lorbus> ^^)
14:32:24 <pwhalen> heh
14:34:21 * pbrobinson sighs
14:35:15 <lorbus> at ease everybody, bexelbie's gone :P
14:36:41 <bexelbie> Narrator: or is he :P
14:38:17 <bcotton> sPoOoOoOoOkY
14:39:15 <lorbus> *turns into an orange pumpkin
14:39:18 <pbrobinson> #endmeeting