15:02:43 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig 15:02:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Sep 4 15:02:43 2018 UTC. 15:02:43 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:02:43 <zodbot> The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:43 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig' 15:02:53 <rdieter> #topic roll call 15:02:56 <adamw> nah, it's my bad, i moved our meeting without checking :) 15:03:00 <rdieter> hi all, friendly kde-sig meeting, who's present today? 15:03:02 <tosky> o/ 15:03:31 <rdieter> #info rdieter tosky present 15:03:34 <rdieter> #chair tosky 15:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: rdieter tosky 15:04:45 <rdieter> may be a quick meeting 15:04:52 <rdieter> (my favorite kind) 15:05:56 <tosky> a quick note about tellico 15:06:05 <tosky> which is not kde-sig, but still, it's related 15:06:16 <rdieter> #topic tellico 15:06:19 <rdieter> ok 15:07:07 <tosky> I updated tellico to the KF5 version and I took the liberty to asked the maintainer (José Abílio Matos) if he wanted to join the kde-sig group and add tellico to the group 15:07:12 <tosky> he seems to be open to it 15:07:38 <rdieter> you mean, give kde-sig group commit acl ? 15:08:07 <tosky> yes, and on the other side, have another package under it 15:08:27 <rdieter> ok, :thumbsup: 15:09:20 <rdieter> moving on... 15:09:27 <rdieter> (assuming that is all) 15:09:29 <tosky> thanks :) 15:09:40 <tosky> yes, so I can properly reply and continue the discussion 15:09:45 <rdieter> #topic Qt-5.11.1 f28 update 15:10:21 <rdieter> Qt-5.11.1 f28 update been sitting in updates-testing for about a week now 15:10:48 <tosky> and a big discussion arose in the last days 15:11:04 <rdieter> been getting generally positive feedback. some extracuricular comments about whether it's suitable for a stable release 15:11:19 <rdieter> some links... 15:11:21 <rdieter> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-bea1e0b465 15:11:41 <rdieter> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1984 15:12:19 <rdieter> not too worried about the (slight) negativity... I think it's due mostly to misunderstanding 15:12:43 <rdieter> (I wish folks would try asking or talking to use *before* escalating things) 15:13:26 <rdieter> on the positive side, it highlighted one more private api user we didn't know about previously 15:13:36 <rdieter> .bug 1625239 15:13:37 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 1625239 – Qt5 dependencies, private api usage - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1625239 15:13:47 <rdieter> new since that last time I repoquery'd awhile back 15:13:54 <rdieter> hedgewars 15:14:03 <tosky> probably the best counterpoint that was raised is that the private header can break also in x.y.z updates, and you can't really block them 15:14:13 <rdieter> <nod> 15:14:57 <rdieter> it's almost as if we're being punished a little for tracking private api closer these days :-/ 15:15:18 <rdieter> problems are obvious and visible now 15:15:47 <rdieter> on the postive side, it's an opportunity to educate folks better 15:16:03 <tosky> are there other big examples around? I can only think about poppler, but its version seems to be stable during the lifetime of a Fedora release 15:16:55 * rdieter thinks 15:17:43 <rdieter> I can't off the top of my head 15:19:59 <rdieter> hopefully we can give this update a little more time, say up to a week, but preferably no more than that. 15:20:29 <rdieter> have more items blocking on the way: kf5-5.50, plasma-5.13.5 15:21:13 <rdieter> #topic open discussion 15:21:17 <rdieter> anything else for today? 15:21:31 <tosky> nothing from me 15:21:47 <rdieter> I guess I hinted at it already, kf5-5.50, plasma-5.13.5 released recently, I'm working on rawhide import script now 15:22:03 <rdieter> plasma-5.13.5 import just completed, builds underway, then will move on to kf5 15:22:43 <lruzicka> .hello2 15:22:44 <zodbot> lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com> 15:23:32 <lruzicka> rdieter, Sorry, thought that a different meeting was taking place. 15:23:49 <rdieter> lruzicka: qa? #fedora-meeting-1 is going 15:24:02 <rdieter> no problem 15:24:31 <rdieter> and that's all I have for now too 15:24:54 <rdieter> thanks everyone 15:24:56 <rdieter> #endmeeting