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20:00:04 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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20:00:07 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:00:08 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:00:10 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:00:24 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch cverna x3mboy
20:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna ryanlerch stickster x3mboy
20:00:49 * stickster is hoping we'll get asamalik in here at some point too
20:02:09 * stickster waits to see who else shows
20:02:24 <cverna> hello o/
20:02:30 <atolstoy> Hello. I wanted to ask about the status of my pitch to Fedora Magazine
20:02:49 <stickster> Hi atolstoy, give us a moment and we'll jump to pitches ahead of other reviews for you.
20:02:56 <atolstoy> ok
20:03:03 <stickster> atolstoy: and thank you for being here!
20:03:05 <cverna> hi atolstoy
20:03:16 <stickster> we don't always get authors visiting but they're always welcome!
20:03:36 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
20:03:37 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
20:03:52 <stickster> o/ hola ryan!
20:04:02 <ryanlerch> morning!
20:04:07 <cverna> ryanlerch: morning :)
20:04:20 <stickster> OK, everyone have brew (of some type)? We can go ahead then :-)
20:04:35 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats
20:04:42 <stickster> #info Last week's stats: ~54.3K pageviews, down ~10K from previous week (although not terrible)
20:05:01 <stickster> for the month we're at > 152K, which is pretty good for halfway through!
20:05:43 <cverna> oh it is funny that we dropped like that last week
20:06:13 <cverna> the week end was pretty bad
20:06:21 <stickster> I think it was that dog picture ;-D
20:06:37 <cverna> :D
20:06:58 <stickster> Well, let's see if we can pick it up. The "N things" posts tend to do really well
20:07:25 <cverna> yeah :)
20:07:54 <stickster> If no one minds, we'll change our usual order and talk about pitches first, so we can talk with atolstoy while here
20:08:15 <cverna> sounds good to me
20:08:19 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review
20:08:22 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
20:08:28 <stickster> #info --- 4 cool apps for your terminal ---
20:08:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21964&preview=1&_ppp=8afe1eea8f
20:09:02 <atolstoy> yes, that's mine!
20:09:18 <stickster> I have to say, I love this idea atolstoy. And these types of articles are *VERY* popular with readers according to our stats
20:09:31 <stickster> are all of these apps free/open source?
20:10:01 <atolstoy> well, every title lead to a Github page,
20:10:08 <atolstoy> surely they are
20:10:16 <cverna> Browsh looks super cool :)
20:10:23 <stickster> Ha! That's awesome
20:10:37 <stickster> I don't know about the rest of you but BIG +1 from me!
20:10:39 <cverna> +1 for me
20:10:57 <ryanlerch> yeah +1 from me
20:11:26 <stickster> atolstoy: one tip -- when you give installation instructions, do make sure to try them on a fresh VM each time so you include dependency packages, if any
20:11:42 <stickster> it's fair to do that on e.g. a fresh Fedora Workstation install
20:12:37 <atolstoy> not everything is packaged yet
20:13:26 <atolstoy> I'll definitely search through Copr projects to find some matches, but generally this is a kind of software you compile yourself
20:14:15 <stickster> atolstoy: *nod. It's OK if it's not in COPR yet. You could even make a point at the end that someone could package for Fedora if desired -- although personally I think that may not be super useful when git is moving fast
20:14:37 <atolstoy> it's a piece of cake in many cases. For instance, this is how Lolcat looks: https://github.com/busyloop/lolcat/raw/master/ass/screenshot.png
20:14:42 <cverna> I think Browsh is available in a container :)
20:15:15 <stickster> #agreed Pitch on 4 cool terminal apps approved
20:15:18 <atolstoy> and it simply goes lik "$ gem install lolcat", so we only need Gem  at the beginning
20:15:23 * cverna saw a tweet about it recently
20:15:23 <stickster> #action atolstoy go forth and write it!
20:15:41 <stickster> atolstoy: Do you think you might be able to write it by next Monday? How long do you need?
20:15:48 <atolstoy> okay
20:15:49 <stickster> #undo
20:15:49 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by stickster at 20:15:23 : atolstoy go forth and write it!
20:16:01 <atolstoy> I'll need a day or two. Monday is fine))
20:16:24 <stickster> atolstoy: OK, just email the list when you have the draft ready. I think ideally we'll publish this next week, maybe Wednesday
20:16:36 <atolstoy> thanks everyone!
20:16:41 <stickster> atolstoy: or ping us in #fedora-magazine of course
20:16:42 <cverna> there is also a new COPR article available that we could schedule for Monday worst case
20:16:52 <stickster> cverna: \o/  an embarrassment of riches this week!!!
20:17:00 <stickster> thank you atolstoy!
20:17:08 <cverna> atolstoy++
20:17:22 <stickster> #action atolstoy go forth and write terminal apps -- aiming for done by Mon 2018-07-23
20:17:36 <stickster> atolstoy++
20:17:47 <stickster> apparently zodbot is sleeping on the job
20:17:55 <stickster> .slap zodbot
20:18:01 <stickster> :-(
20:18:02 <cverna> .fasinfo atolstoy
20:18:03 <zodbot> cverna: User: atolstoy, Name: Alexander Tolstoy, email: a.a.tolstoy@gmail.com, Creation: 2018-07-13, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
20:18:05 <stickster> huh
20:18:06 <zodbot> cverna: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
20:18:10 <stickster> just ignoring me, maybe
20:18:20 <stickster> Anyhoo
20:18:30 <cverna> yeah zodbot run out of cookies
20:18:36 <stickster> OK fess up -- who is running one of these apps RIGHT NOW because they couldn't wait?
20:18:47 <ryanlerch> lolz
20:18:54 * cverna looks at stickster
20:19:03 <stickster> #action stickster take edits on 4 terminal apps article when it arrives
20:19:11 <stickster> I did try browsh. It's cool!
20:19:48 <stickster> #info --- Setup VSCode for Python ---
20:19:53 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21995&preview=1&_ppp=6e1c07fa84
20:19:57 <atolstoy> Sorry, I'm new to IRC commands
20:20:11 <stickster> this is a pitch from our own cverna :-)
20:20:24 <ryanlerch> +100
20:20:36 <stickster> atolstoy: this wiki page might be of use for you: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_communicate_using_IRC
20:20:45 <stickster> +100 from me too!
20:21:40 <cverna> I have been using vscode for python dev and that would pretty much describe how I configured it
20:21:46 <stickster> #agreed cverna article on vscode approved!
20:21:52 <cverna> \o/
20:22:17 <stickster> This is a great idea... vscode, atom, et al. are becoming pretty darn popular
20:22:34 <ryanlerch> cverna: i use vscode too!
20:22:34 <stickster> cverna: did you want to commit to a date?
20:22:48 <ryanlerch> havent really set up much extrastuff thogh :)
20:22:52 * stickster has vscode and atom but hasn't got enough skills in either
20:22:55 <ryanlerch> so interested in this post!
20:23:19 <cverna> I think week after next sounds like a good target
20:23:19 <ryanlerch> can you get thiz one out by this afternoon? ;)
20:23:34 <stickster> ryanlerch: did you notice that Software is out of date for metadata for vscode? (I think it's now MIT licensed?)
20:23:36 <cverna> I still have to finish the twitter bot article
20:23:44 <stickster> cverna: that's very fair
20:23:59 <ryanlerch> cverna: i didnt...
20:24:07 <cverna> but I can try for this afternoon :P
20:24:11 <stickster> haha
20:24:15 <ryanlerch> cverna: yeah, week after next sounds good
20:24:23 <ryanlerch> :D
20:24:35 <stickster> #action cverna to draft vscode article for publication week of July 30
20:25:16 <stickster> #info --- Set up Fedora VDSL router ---
20:25:18 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21941&preview=1&_ppp=c70248f34c
20:26:35 <stickster> Wow, this is thick but cool
20:26:44 <cverna> I am not sure what this is about but it looks cool :)
20:27:08 <stickster> This project is setting up a Fedora box to be a router connected to a VDSL line
20:27:42 <stickster> VDSL is really fast DSL which some people use for business-class connections to home
20:27:46 <ryanlerch> yeah, intro def needs a bit more "what" and "why"
20:28:16 <cverna> That's a neat diy type of article
20:28:30 <stickster> ryanlerch: *nod. and yeah cverna, the DIY angle is really cool.
20:28:37 <stickster> Of course there is formatting needed, etc.
20:29:09 * cverna thought it was ready to publish :)
20:29:45 <stickster> I also see a couple omissions here, like where you get some of the values from
20:31:56 <ryanlerch> +1 to the pitch from me thogh
20:31:57 <cverna> +1
20:32:27 <stickster> Yeah, same here
20:32:38 <stickster> I left a few notes in the text and will email the contributor
20:32:46 <stickster> #agreed pitch on VDSL router accepted
20:32:53 <stickster> #action stickster email the VDSL router author for changes
20:33:05 <stickster> I hope this isn't another dump and run... it's too good an idea :-)
20:33:35 <stickster> OK, moving on
20:33:40 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
20:33:49 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
20:34:23 <stickster> #info --- PMF in wireless ---
20:34:30 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21916&preview=1&_ppp=bca0f223fd
20:34:33 <stickster> I think this is a pitch that turned into a draft, but I don't remember seeing it before:
20:34:57 <stickster> This looks extremely esoteric to me
20:35:24 <stickster> .fasinfo dcaratti
20:35:25 <zodbot> stickster: User: dcaratti, Name: None, email: dcaratti@redhat.com, Creation: 2017-02-09, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
20:35:28 <zodbot> stickster: Approved Groups: fedorabugs packager cla_done cla_fpca
20:35:29 <stickster> Hmm
20:35:47 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
20:35:48 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
20:36:13 <stickster> yay Link's here!
20:36:16 <stickster> #chair sub_pop
20:36:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna ryanlerch stickster sub_pop x3mboy
20:36:22 <cverna> sub_pop: o/
20:36:33 <sub_pop> hello hello
20:36:46 <stickster> So IIUC, this article does explain how to solve an actual F28 problem that might afflict some users, it just has a lot of tech info too
20:36:57 * stickster can live with that, we just need a catchier title ;-)
20:37:22 <cverna> not sure what to think about this one, I think the subject is interesting but the article is a bit heavy
20:37:35 <stickster> It's *very* heavy
20:37:59 <stickster> needs to be re-crafted toward general readers who aren't so knowledgeable about deep wifi technical stuff, and don't need to be
20:38:32 <ryanlerch> yeah ths one is very heavy...
20:38:59 <cverna> +1 with a bit of rework
20:39:01 <stickster> I don't see anything on list about this, did anyone else?
20:39:14 <cverna> I don't think so
20:39:24 <sub_pop> It seems very well written to begin with too.
20:39:46 <stickster> yeah, it's not bad per se -- just very thick with technical info that people may not sift through
20:40:08 <sub_pop> Yea I can see that.
20:40:31 <cverna> the formatting does not help, too maybe with a bit more space it would be more attractive
20:40:45 <sub_pop> It's more like a manual.
20:41:01 <sub_pop> It needs the narrative.
20:41:05 <stickster> *nod
20:41:23 <stickster> #action stickster email the authors (dcaratti?) and see if they'll rework this
20:42:12 <stickster> Anything else on this one?
20:42:24 <sub_pop> nope
20:42:24 <stickster> #action stickster move this post to draft
20:42:38 <stickster> #topic Drafts to review
20:42:41 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:42:58 <stickster> #info --- COPR for July! ---
20:43:01 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21989&preview=1&_ppp=5bd59fac37
20:43:39 <sub_pop> These are always great
20:44:44 <stickster> insta-+1 from me
20:44:56 <stickster> I can get this scheduled for whenever we want
20:44:57 <cverna> +1 too
20:45:37 <cverna> if we could schedule it for Friday, that would buy me couple more days to finish the twitter bot article :)
20:45:48 <sub_pop> :)
20:45:50 <ryanlerch> yeah +1 from me too!
20:45:56 <cverna> https://www.xkcd.com/1646/
20:46:12 <sub_pop> There's always a relevant XKCD
20:46:16 <stickster> #agreed COPR article is go, including in publishing schedule
20:46:19 <stickster> ha
20:46:24 <stickster> cverna: you're on
20:46:37 <stickster> sub_pop: any progress on your color calibration article?
20:46:37 <ryanlerch> cverna: at least you end up visiting me!
20:46:39 <ryanlerch> :)
20:46:49 <cverna> ryanlerch: :)
20:47:01 <stickster> lol
20:47:20 <sub_pop> None. But I haven't bugged Richard recently.
20:47:23 <cverna> ryanlerch: I am not that would be a valid reason to get a visa
20:48:13 <stickster> cverna: I'm pretty sure that's how bowlofeggs ended up there
20:48:33 <pingou> that'd make perfect sense
20:48:51 <stickster> OK, let's look at our publishing schedule
20:48:56 <stickster> #topic Publishing schedule
20:49:23 <pingou> stickster: did he only come back once Jeremy killed the bot(s)?
20:49:28 <stickster> lol
20:50:33 <stickster> cverna: will you have your article editable by Friday night?
20:50:51 <cverna> sure
20:50:53 <stickster> (or Saturday noon EDT would work)
20:50:54 <sub_pop> #action sub_pop to follow up with hughsie about color calibration article
20:51:02 <stickster> #action stickster to edit cverna twitterbot article
20:51:12 <stickster> ryanlerch: you want to provide an image for that one?
20:52:57 <ryanlerch> stickster: for sure!
20:53:15 <stickster> #action ryanlerch provide image for cverna twitterbot article
20:53:50 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-07-20: COPR (stickster) -- Mon 2018-07-23: Twitterbot (cverna / stickster / ryanlerch) -- Wed 2018-07-25: 4 cool terminal apps (atolstoy) -- Fri 2018-07-27: TBD
20:54:03 <cverna> +1
20:54:06 <sub_pop> +1
20:54:21 <stickster> If the Wed article starts looking iffy, we can cover it with one of the other "[N] cool..." articles perhaps?
20:55:00 <ryanlerch> +1
20:55:34 <stickster> #agreed Fri 2018-07-20: COPR (stickster) -- Mon 2018-07-23: Twitterbot (cverna / stickster / ryanlerch) -- Wed 2018-07-25: 4 cool terminal apps (atolstoy) -- Fri 2018-07-27: TBD
20:55:40 <stickster> #topic All other business / Open floor
20:56:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: Hey, I just replied (late) to a post on our list. Were you able to get coauthorship working again on our theme?
20:56:29 <ryanlerch> stickster: i got a bit stuck on it, will try to finish it off today!
20:57:01 <stickster> ryanlerch: no worrires
20:57:03 <stickster> er, worries
20:57:32 * stickster also needs to look at the mail setup so that authors aren't getting notified about things they can't do
20:57:40 <stickster> such as comment moderation
20:57:50 <stickster> #action ryanlerch finish up coauthorship fix in theme
20:58:02 <stickster> #action stickster figure out how to shut off unwanted mail to authors
20:58:29 <sub_pop> that recently got enabled. I haven't seen comment approvals from my old articles
20:58:47 <sub_pop> that seems to be a new "feature" that got fixed or turned on
21:00:59 <sub_pop> gotta run. o/
21:01:02 <stickster> Yeah, that was me
21:01:06 <stickster> thanks for being here sub_pop!
21:01:23 * stickster is actually done now -- anything else, or are we good ryanlerch cverna ?
21:01:46 <cverna> nothing from me
21:01:58 <ryanlerch> nothing here
21:02:08 <cverna> thanks stickster
21:02:45 <stickster> Okey dokey, thanks for coming everyone!
21:02:48 <stickster> #endmeeting