15:01:40 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting
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15:01:50 <lruzicka> .hello2
15:01:51 <adamw> #topic Roll call
15:01:51 <zodbot> lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com>
15:01:56 <adamw> who's around for qa fun again?
15:01:58 <adamw> hi lukas
15:02:03 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello
15:02:03 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
15:02:13 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello Southern_Gentlem
15:02:14 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: Sorry, but you don't exist
15:02:18 * jlanda is in phone
15:02:30 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
15:02:34 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
15:03:47 * kparal is here
15:04:00 * pwhalen is here
15:04:20 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: it's always humiliating to be existentially insulted by a robot, isn't it
15:05:02 <adamw> how's everyone doing this fine summer <MORNING/AFTERNOON/EVENING (PLEASE DELETE ONE)>?
15:05:13 <adamw> er...delete two. go ahead and delete two.
15:06:37 <Southern_Gentlem> adamw,  and giving the robot the bird can only lead to further problems down the road
15:06:42 <adamw> all dead, apparently? excellent, finally i can complete my masterplan for turning the fedora QA team into an evil plot for world domination
15:06:58 <pwhalen> heh, hot! another heatwave on this side of Canada
15:06:59 <lruzicka> :)
15:07:10 <adamw> aw, shoot, one survived? /me locks southern_gentlem in with the laser sharks
15:07:11 <lruzicka> hot in here, too
15:07:41 <jlanda> i have two children running around my desk till september, so "fine" here
15:07:53 <adamw> pwhalen: heatwave in eastern canada...so it's above freezing then? :P
15:08:15 <Southern_Gentlem> will be good here when the humidity is back down to human levels
15:08:22 <adamw> (lil' canadian weather humour for you there, folks. you're welcome.)
15:08:24 <pwhalen> well above, been steady 35-40C
15:09:12 <adamw> yikes, well that seems excessive.
15:09:20 <adamw> allllrighty folks, let's get rolling
15:09:24 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:09:41 <adamw> "kparal to follow up with lruzicka on modularity test case" - any news?
15:10:11 <kparal> not only I forgot about this, I don't even remember what it was about :)
15:10:36 <lruzicka> adamw: I was not present last meeting due to PTO, this somehow slipped
15:10:52 <kparal> lruzicka: were all your proposed server test cases approved, do you remember?
15:11:02 <adamw> let me read the logs
15:11:19 <lruzicka> adamw: There was one which was approved, the second one was not until now, I suppose
15:11:27 <kparal> I believe you complained about some test cases not being approved yet, and I mentioned it in the last meeting
15:11:43 <adamw> ok, so kparal mentioned you were waiting on a test case to be 'approved', sgallagh said he thought they all were, kparal looked through the archives and didn't find any that weren't approved either
15:11:52 <adamw> then we set the action item for him to 'follow up' with you
15:11:58 <kparal> and I just did!
15:12:01 <adamw> :P
15:12:05 * kparal pats himself on the back
15:12:09 <lruzicka> adamw: Aha, so I will go and publish the one I have not published yet
15:12:21 <lruzicka> good to know :)
15:12:24 <kparal> well, make sure it got approved
15:12:25 <sgallagh> lruzicka: Which was the one you were unsure of?
15:12:33 <sgallagh> I can give it a quick look right now.
15:12:34 <adamw> so...i guess if there's a case you think is still 'not approved', i guess send a follow-up to the list? otherwise if it does seem to be approved, just go ahead and push it
15:12:38 <lruzicka> sgallagh: let me find it
15:13:00 <adamw> #info "kparal to follow up with lruzicka on modularity test case" - this is being followed up live in this very meeting! how exciting.
15:13:17 <sgallagh> ;-)
15:14:21 <lruzicka> sgallagh: This one: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Lruzicka/Testcase_SSO_with_GSSAPI
15:15:16 * sumantro is here and late
15:15:26 <jlanda> he was here
15:15:46 <sgallagh> lruzicka: I'd like to see a few minor changes to that
15:15:59 <adamw> ok, can we follow up on the list then?
15:16:09 <sgallagh> In particular, I'd prefer to see us set up the client via realmd (either at the CLI or via Cockpit)
15:16:30 <adamw> #action lruzicka and sgallagh to discuss changes to proposed SSO GSSAPI test case on server@ list
15:16:35 <sgallagh> ack
15:16:41 <lruzicka> ok
15:17:57 <adamw> sumantro: ahoy, are you around?
15:18:11 <sumantro> yes
15:18:13 <sumantro> I am
15:19:25 <adamw> alrighty, we have a couple of action items from last week
15:19:26 <adamw> "sumantro to look into organizing DNF 3.0 test day(s)"
15:20:03 <sumantro> adamw no one followed up on the ticket, I will start mailing them
15:20:10 <adamw> thanks
15:20:18 <adamw> i believe they were mostly on PTO this last week which could explain iut
15:21:11 <sumantro> we had a FMW test day wil about ~20 people. Note to self is to test the test day app before calling next time
15:21:12 <adamw> #info "sumantro to look into organizing DNF 3.0 test day(s)" - sumantro filed a ticket but did not hear from DNF folks yet, he will try to follow up with them this week
15:21:23 <adamw> sumantro: that topic's coming up in a bit...
15:21:36 <adamw> the other action item check-in is "sumantro to check on qa group membership request backlog"
15:21:43 <sumantro> done
15:22:06 <sumantro> also couple of folks mailed me personally who work for RH Pune and I got them sponsored
15:22:49 <adamw> alright, thanks
15:22:57 <adamw> #info "sumantro to check on qa group membership request backlog" - this has been done
15:23:20 <adamw> #topic "Fedora 29 status (DNF 3, Python 3.7, mass rebuild, binutils...)"
15:23:33 <adamw> so, we've got quite a lot going on in F29 land recently
15:24:22 <adamw> #info BIOS boot is broken when installing from Rawhide 20180714.n.0, pjones is looking into that
15:24:30 <adamw> (we'll have bugs filed soon i believe)
15:24:49 <pjones> I think I'll have a build going in ~5m
15:25:26 <jsmith> :-)
15:26:07 <adamw> so, on the DNF 3 front
15:26:34 <adamw> is anyone here having major problems with DNF 3? there've been at least some cases reported to the list / bugzilla of DNF just failing to run at all after the update
15:27:28 * kparal haven't played with f29 much yet
15:27:44 <adamw> wuss
15:27:50 <adamw> :P
15:28:23 <jsmith> adamw: No problems here...
15:28:31 <jlanda> no problemes here
15:28:34 <jsmith> adamw: Unlike kparal, I've been using it a ton :-)
15:28:40 <adamw> .fire kparal
15:28:40 <zodbot> adamw fires kparal
15:28:41 <adamw> .hire jsmith
15:28:42 <zodbot> adamw hires jsmith
15:29:04 <adamw> the truck convoy will be along with your workload shortly, jsmith
15:29:05 <jsmith> adamw: Get in line :-p
15:29:27 <lruzicka> adamw: I have to reinstall my pc, will openqa work on f29?
15:29:31 <adamw> alright, so, i was hoping to see if we can figure out any of the reported issues a bit if anyone who was experiencing them was here, but never mind
15:29:40 <adamw> lruzicka: i, er, do not know. it works on 27 and 28.
15:29:45 <adamw> i don't usually test it on rawhide.
15:29:48 <adamw> (or branched0
15:30:06 <lruzicka> adamw: So I'd rather stick to 28 then
15:31:04 <adamw> probably best, yeah
15:32:39 <adamw> #info DNF 3 is in Rawhide and seems to be generally working, but some testers have reported severe issues with it, we will need to triage those
15:32:41 <pjones> ... okay it'll be after lunch.
15:32:54 * adamw throws a protein bar at pjones
15:33:50 <adamw> one thing I did catch in DNF 3 is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1601108 , it can sometimes cause NetworkManager not to start on boot, fun bug.
15:34:15 <adamw> that's being fixed soon I hope, for now, just be aware that if you're running rawhide, sometimes NetworkManager might not come up on boot, just do 'systemctl start NetworkManager' to get it going.
15:34:37 <adamw> gah sorry
15:34:40 <adamw> that's the EL bug
15:34:51 <adamw> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1600823
15:34:55 <adamw> is the Fedora one.
15:35:12 * pwhalen has hit that one, thanks
15:37:35 <adamw> #info Python 3.7 is in Rawhide and mostly that's worked out fine now, however we still haven't got a libreoffice rebuild for it through as the i686 build is failing (for non-python-related reasons)
15:37:45 <adamw> x86 list is aware of that and trying to figure it out
15:42:05 <adamw> there's also a new binutils which seems to have been causing some problems with building some packages
15:42:12 <adamw> has anyone run across that at all?
15:44:53 <adamw> i guess we'll just have to keep an eye on it, then
15:45:21 <adamw> #info trouble has also been reported with building several packages with a new binutils, that is under investigation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1599521 etc.
15:45:33 <adamw> any other notes on f29 current status?
15:45:42 <adamw> oh, and the mass rebuild is running, i believe
15:45:50 <adamw> #info F29 mass rebuild is underway
15:46:18 <adamw> oh, hum
15:46:20 <adamw> #undo
15:46:20 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by adamw at 15:45:50 : F29 mass rebuild is underway
15:46:21 <adamw> #undo
15:46:21 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by adamw at 15:45:21 : trouble has also been reported with building several packages with a new binutils, that is under investigation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1599521 etc.
15:47:09 <adamw> #info trouble was reported rebuilding several packages with a recent binutils: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1599521 etc. this was claimed to be fixed in binutils-2.30.90-3.fc29 , and the mass rebuild was started on 2018-07-12
15:47:45 <nirik> the mass rebuild finished last night. ;)
15:48:36 <adamw> thanks nirik
15:50:11 <adamw> #topic Test Day status
15:50:18 <adamw> sumantro, how are we looking on test days?
15:52:20 <Sumantrom> Hey Adam, the test day went great with about 20 people
15:52:30 <Sumantrom> This was the FMW test day
15:52:49 <Sumantrom> We will have the next one shortly
15:53:35 <adamw> what's the next one, and when?
15:53:41 <adamw> and what was the wiki page for the FMW one?
15:54:24 <Sumantrom> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-07-12_Fedora_Media_Writer
15:54:52 <Sumantrom> The next one will be kernel or virtualization I will post shortly
15:55:38 <adamw> thanks
15:55:57 <adamw> #info most recent Test Day for Fedora Media Writer went well, with 20+ attendees: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-07-12_Fedora_Media_Writer
15:56:11 <adamw> #info next Test Day will be for kernel or virtualization, stay tuned to test-announce@ for an announcement from sumantro
15:56:15 <adamw> thanks sumantro!
15:56:20 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:56:32 <adamw> any other business, folks? note the blocker review meeting will start in ~3 minutes in #fedora-blocker-erview
15:56:38 <adamw> *#fedora-blocker-review
15:57:41 <Sumantrom> Adamw np!!
15:59:13 <lruzicka> Let's meet for the blocker bug meeting. :)
15:59:41 <adamw> ok, thanks for coming out, folks
16:00:39 <adamw> #endmeeting