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20:00:15 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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20:00:17 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:00:19 <stickster> .hello pfrields
20:00:20 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
20:00:22 <sub_pop> .hello linkdupont
20:00:26 <zodbot> sub_pop: linkdupont 'Link Dupont' <link@sub-pop.net>
20:00:41 <stickster> #chair sub_pop ryanlerch[m] ryanlerch cverna
20:00:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna ryanlerch ryanlerch[m] stickster sub_pop
20:01:44 <stickster> o/ Hello everybody! Another wonderful week of Magazine behind, and ahead!
20:03:00 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
20:03:01 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
20:03:20 <stickster> oops, sorry for extra ping Ryan -- howdy!
20:03:39 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats
20:04:06 <ryanlerch> np stickster :P
20:04:20 <stickster> #info Week of June 18: ~66.1K pageviews -- up from 57.7K week before which is nice! We're at a bit over 240K for June 2018, not bad
20:05:14 <stickster> BTW -- June 2017 was ~199K pageviews
20:05:22 <stickster> 40% YoY growth not bad ;-)
20:05:31 <ryanlerch> wowsers!
20:05:33 <ryanlerch> nice!
20:05:53 <stickster> OTOH I think that was diedown ahead of a July release, but still
20:06:36 <stickster> I have a couple open floor items for end of meeting, will hold off for those
20:06:43 <stickster> Should we review stuff?
20:07:10 <ryanlerch> +1
20:07:14 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
20:07:16 <sub_pop> Let's
20:07:17 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending
20:07:28 <stickster> #info --- NVidia GPU ---
20:07:42 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21714&preview=1&_ppp=c370b1561e
20:09:08 <stickster> This looks ready for review... it points to rpmfusion nonfree, is that OK for us to advise these days?
20:09:45 <stickster> note that "nonfree" doesn't mean "legally untouchable," it means that software isn't FOSS licensed but can be perfectly legal
20:09:55 <sub_pop> Yea, that's the repo that is included in the 3rd party repos
20:10:00 <stickster> Oh hang on, this is just... yeah, what sub_pop said
20:10:02 <stickster> perfect
20:10:17 <stickster> Man, this is a killer article
20:10:36 <ryanlerch> yeah, this one is solid!
20:10:37 <stickster> I'll volunteer to edit this, it's long but worth it
20:10:52 <sub_pop> Interesting that it goes into the hardware level. That's something I haven't thought about in years.
20:10:53 <ryanlerch> stickster++
20:10:58 <stickster> sub_pop++
20:10:59 <sub_pop> Living on laptops..
20:11:04 <stickster> yeah, for sure
20:11:21 <stickster> #action stickster edit nvidia article
20:11:43 <sub_pop> Yea, it's cool for sure.
20:11:45 <stickster> #info --- Ansible classroom ---
20:11:47 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=21802&preview=1&_ppp=32aed2f530
20:11:59 <stickster> This is a late entry but we probably want to get it out sooner rather than later
20:12:23 <sub_pop> This looks totally ready
20:12:48 <stickster> I already edited it so it'd be ready... we could even put it out Friday and push that day's article (already ready too) to Monday
20:13:30 <sub_pop> good idea. The 5th is already next week.
20:13:36 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, if we have a bunch of articles too, this could also be an "extra"
20:13:47 <stickster> Yeah, let's decide that part later, makes sense ryanlerch
20:13:53 <ryanlerch> but +1
20:14:22 <stickster> #topic Drafts to review
20:14:39 <stickster> #link Chttps://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:14:44 <stickster> #undo
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20:14:46 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
20:14:54 <stickster> #info nothing new in drafts unfortunately ;_(
20:15:59 <sub_pop> :
20:16:01 <sub_pop> :\
20:16:17 <stickster> Does someone want to write an email to Roní to see if articles might be forthcoming? These were notified approved already IIRC
20:17:01 <sub_pop> Yea, I can.
20:17:26 <stickster> sub_pop: cool, thank you!
20:17:54 <stickster> #action sub_pop email electronics drafts author to ask if drafts are still forthcoming
20:18:35 <stickster> Wow, this is going to be a short meeting based on content :-(
20:18:52 <sub_pop> Yea no pitches either :\
20:18:57 <stickster> sub_pop: anything shaking with your color calibration article?
20:19:07 <sub_pop> I need to poke hughsie again.
20:19:36 <sub_pop> I'm closer on my ansible workstation article idea. I could see about banging out a basic one on that topic.
20:19:53 <sub_pop> I'm thinking of a basic one, and then a follow up that refactors the playbook into roles.
20:20:10 <stickster> sub_pop: that might make the concepts clearer, yeah!
20:20:20 <ryanlerch> sub_pop: good idea IMHO
20:20:24 * stickster did training on Ansible this past weekend that did *exactly* that as well, so it's a really valid approach
20:20:27 <sub_pop> Serving almost as a vehicle to understand ansible.
20:20:45 * stickster ponders whether "really valid" is like being "really pregnant"
20:21:05 <sub_pop> Oh sweet. You took or gave training? Do you have any resources that might be useful?
20:21:56 <stickster> sub_pop: took. The training I took was here, the Ansible Tower workshop: http://redhatgov.io/
20:22:25 <stickster> sub_pop: if you notice, from 1.0 - 1.5 the playbook evolves from very simple to using roles, handlers, etc.
20:22:43 <stickster> you don't have to have access to the systems in that training to understand the writeups, fortunately.
20:22:45 <sub_pop> Yea, exactly.
20:23:04 <stickster> #action sub_pop continue working on Ansible article(s) which will be super-sweet
20:23:12 <stickster> #topic Pitches to review
20:23:25 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
20:23:36 <stickster> #info --- FOSS git forges ---
20:23:46 <stickster> anyone heard from rahul lately?
20:24:30 * stickster pings in email
20:24:41 <stickster> #action stickster email Rahul + list about git forge article (done)
20:25:12 * stickster also looks over at x3mboy to see if he's still going to write the zsh tuning guide
20:25:29 <stickster> we used zsh in that ansible workshop and I really feel like I should try switching to it. It was pretty sweet!
20:25:35 <sub_pop> Yea man! You converted me back to zsh from fish and then left me hanging :P
20:26:04 <ryanlerch> :D
20:26:46 <stickster> *sigh, I guess we're really low on content this week, that was unexpected
20:27:16 <stickster> Let's figure out a publishing strategy, and then we can deal with other topics (including MOAR CONTENT)
20:27:27 <stickster> #topic Publishing schedule
20:27:48 <sub_pop> I like the idea of Friday Ansible 101/102, Monday LibreOffice
20:28:07 <sub_pop> Gives people more notice about the session too
20:28:22 <ryanlerch> yeah, agree!
20:28:29 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-06-29: Ansible classroom (ready to go); Mon 2018-07-02: LibreOffice (ready to go); Wed 2018-07-04: NVidia (stickster to edit); Fri 2018-07-06: ??? TBD
20:28:49 <ryanlerch> sub_pop: your ansible on next friday?
20:28:53 <sub_pop> Yea, I might be able to get this ansible one cranked out for Friday yea
20:28:58 <stickster> that would be ROCKIN
20:29:02 <sub_pop> Sometimes the deadline is all I need to get motivated haha
20:29:22 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri 2018-06-29: Ansible classroom (ready to go); Mon 2018-07-02: LibreOffice (ready to go); Wed 2018-07-04: NVidia (stickster to edit); Fri 2018-07-06: Ansible for workstations (sub_pop, edit TBD)
20:29:40 <sub_pop> +1
20:30:19 <ryanlerch> +1
20:31:19 <stickster> #agreed Fri 2018-06-29: Ansible classroom (ready to go); Mon 2018-07-02: LibreOffice (ready to go); Wed 2018-07-04: NVidia (stickster to edit); Fri 2018-07-06: Ansible for workstations (sub_pop, edit TBD)
20:31:23 <stickster> \o/
20:31:38 <stickster> I imagine by next week I'll have time to do something else useful content-wise :-)
20:31:48 <stickster> #topic Open floor, all other business
20:32:46 <stickster> So two things here... First is, there is a USA holiday next Wed 2018-07-04. We already have an article scheduled, so that's no problem. But I was still planning to hold this meeting if people can attend.
20:33:22 <ryanlerch> i can attend!
20:33:34 <ryanlerch> :D
20:34:24 <stickster> lol awesome.
20:34:43 <stickster> #info Magazine meeting will still happen 2018-07-04 at this hour (2000 UTC).
20:35:13 <sub_pop> I probably can't, but I'll try.
20:36:00 <stickster> no worries. I think we'll just try to keep the ship afloat another week :-D
20:36:12 <stickster> Other topic was about the email situation with the magazine2.fedorainfracloud.org host. Outbound email works there again, modulo some postfix config.
20:36:49 <stickster> That means now, a bunch of annoying moderation messages are going to the fedoramagazine-tips list -- i.e. "incoming comment XXXXX, please moderate"
20:38:28 <stickster> I don't think it's possible to turn those off. ryanlerch... any ideas on what we could do here? email to a bitbucket? something else?
20:39:33 <ryanlerch> yeah, do we get many tips there?
20:39:51 * sub_pop didn't know that list existed
20:39:53 <stickster> ryanlerch: lol. Nope!
20:40:43 <stickster> I was thinking of sending that mail instead to a null on the localhost
20:40:55 <stickster> since we already check it several times a week (sometimes daily)
20:41:42 <ryanlerch> yeah, and close that list off?
20:42:01 <ryanlerch> it really only was for emails from the magazine instance itself
20:42:03 <sub_pop> Is this to just moderate pending comments?
20:42:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: maybe? we could also see where the feedback form goes and whether we can make that different.
20:42:26 <stickster> #action stickster see if it's possible to have feedback email a different destination than moderation notices
20:42:38 <stickster> sub_pop: yes, exactly
20:42:56 <ryanlerch> sub_pop: yeha, and the feedback form
20:43:20 <sub_pop> Does that need an email for every comment? We see pending comments in the web UI. Seems reasonable enough for editors to review those periodically and approve/deny.
20:43:25 <ryanlerch> it's private because we don't really want a public archive of that stuff TBH
20:44:35 <stickster> sub_pop: ryanlerch: both of you are 100% on the money. I'd like to have those "pending comment moderation" notices disappear. Will see what the options are.
20:44:58 <stickster> Oh, I had one more thing...
20:45:10 <sub_pop> I vote for not sending emails for comment moderations
20:45:19 <stickster> sub_pop++
20:45:33 <stickster> #agreed we'd rather just ditch the moderation notice emails, they're just noise
20:45:47 <stickster> I'll report back next week on what I find out
20:45:54 <stickster> #link https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme/issue/20
20:46:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: ^ I filed that this weekend -- it would be really cool if (at least in the byline) we could show multiple authors, since next Wed's NVidia article has two co-authors
20:46:46 <ryanlerch> stickster: whoops! i added this in the old theme...
20:46:55 <ryanlerch> obviously forgot to add it int he new one
20:46:59 <ryanlerch> will fix!
20:47:07 <stickster> tbh I tried to figure it out in the new one, but I ran out of time to trace through the right templates
20:47:29 <stickster> #action ryanlerch reimplement coauthors in new theme
20:47:34 <stickster> cool, thanks ryanlerch
20:47:59 * stickster is hoping it's not too difficult since the old way was just a few lines
20:48:21 <stickster> OK, I'm done prattling on. Someone else have a topic to rant about? :-D
20:48:48 <ryanlerch> nothing from me!
20:49:08 <sub_pop> Nope
20:49:48 <stickster> Ha, I guess that's it then.
20:50:12 <stickster> The SS Magazine surges onward! Thanks for coming everyone :-)
20:50:18 <stickster> #endmeeting