15:36:52 <pbokoc> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting
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15:37:02 <pbokoc> #meetingname Fedora Docs
15:37:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
15:37:09 <pbokoc> #topic Roll Call
15:37:12 <pbokoc> #chair bexelbie
15:37:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie pbokoc
15:37:29 <bexelbie> I believe asamalik and rkratky are coming as well
15:37:48 <asamalik> o/
15:38:22 <pbokoc> sup
15:39:00 <bexelbie> .hello bex
15:39:00 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bexelbie@redhat.com>
15:39:06 <asamalik> .hello2
15:39:08 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
15:39:23 <pbokoc> alright, what do you guys want to talk about?
15:39:29 <bexelbie> I believe asamalik can talk a bit about the antora work/kanban board
15:40:11 <pbokoc> we should probably start maintaining an agenda document somewhere at some point
15:40:17 <pbokoc> so we know what we want to talk about
15:40:29 <pbokoc> #topic Antora
15:42:55 <asamalik> hey, let me introduce myself first because I think this is my first docs meeting
15:43:03 <pbokoc> oh, sure
15:43:31 <pbokoc> #topic introductions
15:43:32 <pbokoc> :)
15:43:56 <asamalik> I'm Adam, spending most of my time on Fedora Modularity (https://docs.pagure.org/modularity/)... I've also visited the recent Docs FAD in Seville, Spain where I fell in love with Fedora Docs :P
15:44:10 <asamalik> and now bexelbie and I are experimenting with Antora
15:44:36 <asamalik> so far we've got this: https://asamalik.fedorapeople.org/fedora-docs-antora/en_US/docs/
15:45:12 <asamalik> and the thing I wanted to actually say: we've started a Kanban board in Fedora Taiga to track progress of our work and also to enable other people to help us :)
15:45:17 <asamalik> https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/asamalik-antora-for-docs/kanban
15:45:56 <pbokoc> #topic Back to Antora
15:46:02 <pbokoc> #link https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/asamalik-antora-for-docs/kanban
15:46:08 <asamalik> pbokoc: thank you :)
15:46:58 <asamalik> not everything we've done is there, because we've created the board much later than we've initially started
15:47:01 <pbokoc> #info there is a Fedora Taiga kanban board for tracking progress on Antora. Anyone who wants to contribute should probably take a look at the backlog to see if there's anything they can help with
15:47:03 <asamalik> but all the future work should be there
15:47:10 <pbokoc> sorry I'm slow, I'm stuffing my face :)
15:47:37 <pbokoc> oh also
15:47:40 <pbokoc> #link https://asamalik.fedorapeople.org/fedora-docs-antora/en_US/docs/
15:47:40 <asamalik> pbokoc: no worries, you're actually saving me here because I haven noticed the topic change :)
15:48:32 <pbokoc> I'm happy to help
15:48:54 <asamalik> \o/ that would be awesome
15:49:09 <pbokoc> alright, thanks for the update. How long has that Taiga instance been set up btw? I haven't heard of it before
15:49:45 <asamalik> pbokoc: two days? :)
15:50:35 <pbokoc> asamalik, I mean the whole taiga, not just this particular board
15:50:50 <asamalik> pbokoc: ah it's out there for some time, maybe two years?
15:50:54 <pbokoc> huh, TIL
15:50:58 <pbokoc> anyway, we only have 10 minutes
15:51:04 <pbokoc> does anyone else want to talk about anything else?
15:51:14 <asamalik> but from the URL it looks like it's not an official fedora service I think..
15:51:16 <bexelbie> pbokoc, perhaps we should use one the repos issues for an agenda?  or update hte wiki pages (which need heavy heavy help) - and maybe convert them where appropriate :D
15:51:36 <bexelbie> asamalik, the service is maintained by a combination of a few people interested in kanban for the app and infra for the machine
15:52:08 <pbokoc> bexelbie, at this point I'm in favor of mass deleting everything on the wiki that has the word "docs" anywhere in the title. Some of that stuff is ancient...
15:52:25 <pbokoc> I'm exaggerating but only a bit
15:53:01 <bexelbie> pbokoc, I like your exaggeration for the most part
15:53:16 <bexelbie> I believe that we are at a point wehre tooling is no longer a blocker excuse
15:53:22 <bexelbie> there is too much progress by people like asamalik
15:53:35 <bexelbie> so we need to lift and shift where it makes sense and for our team docs, move over the good and dump the bad
15:54:00 <pbokoc> agreed. The days of publican-2.x are finally over
15:54:37 <bexelbie> and really we are pretty good about getting things published - we need more people merging PRs but that will come
15:54:49 <bexelbie> and soon CI will eliminate the manual publish
15:55:14 <bexelbie> I'll be showing asamalik how to publish the asciibinder site so he can cover me on vacation next week
15:55:22 <bexelbie> I can show you too, tomorrow, pbokoc if you'd like
15:55:36 <pbokoc> bexelbie, oh yeah, mjahoda wants to help with merging PRs, too. Thanks for fixing his permissions btw
15:55:37 <bexelbie> I don't think it is worth doing a mass training since ANTORA IS COMING :D
15:55:43 <bexelbie> pbokoc, :d
15:55:53 <pbokoc> bexelbie, sounds good, lemme check my calendar
15:56:26 * linuxmodder- sneaks in
15:56:54 <pbokoc> bexelbie, well, ping me whenever in the afternoon, looks like I'm free all day
15:57:00 <pbokoc> also we have 4 minutes left
15:57:17 <pbokoc> #topic Open Floor
15:57:28 <bexelbie> pbokoc, ok, ping me if I forget to ping you :d
15:57:32 <pbokoc> hehe sure
15:57:48 <pbokoc> oh, I wanted to mention that we really should update the 28 Relnotes. I was hoping we'd get a few more contributions but it doesn't look like it's happening
15:58:09 <linuxmodder-> contribs on what topics ?
15:58:35 <pbokoc> linuxmodder-, Fedora 28 release notes. There are some issues open against the repo that are still open, meaning the relnotes for those changes aren't written
15:58:51 <pbokoc> and it's been a month since the release so if we publish an update this is pretty much the latest it still makes some sense
15:59:12 <bexelbie> I am 100% in favor of continuing to update release notes
15:59:13 <pbokoc> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issues
15:59:16 <bexelbie> there are always new users
15:59:20 <bexelbie> and I can republish the RPM as well
15:59:32 <linuxmodder> right repo yes? https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issues
15:59:38 <pbokoc> linuxmodder, yes
15:59:51 <linuxmodder> sorry I was copy pastign as you typed that
15:59:56 <pbokoc> linuxmodder, note that there are a bunch of F29 issues mixed in now, and some issues that aren't part of the relnotes content
16:00:03 <pbokoc> :)
16:00:17 <pbokoc> so anyway, you want those that start with "F28 Change"
16:00:30 <pbokoc> and I'd say go ahead and take them even if they're assigned to someone
16:00:39 <pbokoc> as long as you're sure you can write them
16:01:08 <pbokoc> bexelbie, yeah, I'll try to fix that one last outstanding PR that's currently conflicting, and I'll send you a mail and you can republish what we have now
16:01:21 <pbokoc> if we get any more updates afterwards it's up to you (or me too if you show me how to publish tomorrow :)
16:01:25 <pbokoc> also, time's up
16:01:40 <pbokoc> so please take any subsequent discussion to the docs channel
16:01:43 <pbokoc> thank you for coming everyone
16:01:44 <pbokoc> #endmeeting