15:00:28 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2018-03-19)
15:00:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Mar 19 15:00:28 2018 UTC.  The chair is jwf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00:28 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
15:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2018-03-19)'
15:00:32 <jwf> #meetingname commops
15:00:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
15:00:35 <jwf> #nick commops
15:00:38 <jwf> #topic Agenda
15:00:44 <jwf> #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next
15:00:44 <jwf> #info (1) Roll call / Q&A
15:00:44 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
15:00:44 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
15:00:44 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
15:00:46 <jwf> #info (5) Open floor
15:00:52 <jwf> #topic Roll call / Q&A
15:00:58 <jwf> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
15:00:58 <jwf> #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
15:01:02 <jwf> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
15:01:25 <jwf> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Diversity Team, Mindshare Committee, Ambassador
15:02:47 <bt0_> #info Alberto Rodríguez S; UTC-6; CommOps, Marketing, DotNet, Ambassador
15:02:55 * jwf waves to bt0_
15:02:59 <jwf> #chair bt0 bt0_
15:02:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 bt0_ jwf
15:03:20 <nb> .hello2
15:03:21 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nb@nb.zone>
15:03:31 <x3mboy> #info Eduard Lucena; UTC -3; CommOps, Marketing, Mindshare Committee, Ambassador
15:04:02 <x3mboy> nb, hello man! How are you?
15:04:08 * jwf waves to nb and x3mboy
15:04:11 <jwf> #chair nb x3mboy
15:04:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0 bt0_ jwf nb x3mboy
15:05:03 <jwf> I know some folks said they would be late today, so I think we can go ahead and get started
15:05:09 <bt0_> hi nb o/
15:05:24 <jwf> #topic Announcements
15:05:28 <jwf> #info === "Update CommOps overview for 2018 " ===
15:05:33 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/pull-request/146
15:05:33 <jwf> #link https://bryn.justinwflory.com/commops.html
15:05:39 <jwf> #info This PR is a complete rewrite of our current wiki page. In the end, we will move our wiki page to the Fedora Docs site. The content is rewritten to better explain what CommOps does and the tools in our toolbox. All CommOps members, past and present, are encouraged to review to see if it makes sense to you.
15:05:47 <jwf> #action commops Review PR#146 by Wednesday, Mar 21, 2018 - https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/pull-request/146
15:05:58 <jwf> #info === "Fedora participating in Google Summer of Code 2018" ===
15:05:58 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-google-summer-of-code-gsoc-2018/
15:06:02 <jwf> #info Fedora is participating again in Google Summer of Code. Applications close March 27, 2018 at 12:00 (EDT). See more info in wesleyotugo's article.
15:06:16 <jwf> #info === "Deprecate TCP wrappers Test Day 2018-03-22" ===
15:06:16 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/deprecate-tcp-wrappers-test-day-2018-03-22/
15:06:21 <jwf> #info The Fedora QA Team is running another Test Day event on March 22, 2018. See how to participate in sumantrom's Community Blog article.
15:06:31 <jwf> #info === "Fedora Diversity: 2017 Year in Review" ===
15:06:31 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity-2017-year-review/
15:06:37 <jwf> #info The Fedora Diversity Team published their 2017 Year in Review. See what the team was up to in bee2502's article on the Community Blog.
15:06:47 <jwf> #info === Mindshare Committee meeting this morning ===
15:06:47 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-03-19/mindshare.2018-03-19-12.30.html
15:06:51 <jwf> #info Mindshare Committee met this morning, logs available. Keep an eye out for a report in the next 1-2 weeks.
15:06:53 <jwf> <eof>
15:06:58 <jwf> A lot of announcements this week, for a change :P
15:07:01 <jwf> Phew
15:07:04 <jwf> Anyone else have anything to share?
15:07:17 <bt0_> umm, not from me
15:07:41 <jwf> Announcements, going once…
15:07:50 <jwf> Going twice…
15:08:00 <jwf> And thrice!
15:08:05 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
15:08:11 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-02-19/commops.2018-02-19-15.30.html
15:08:17 <jwf> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
15:08:28 <jwf> #info === [DROPPED] "x3mboy Open new CommOps ticket with expanded idea on improving communication from public to Ambassadors" ===
15:08:28 <jwf> #info This is superseded by activity in the Mindshare Committee
15:08:34 <jwf> x3mboy: ^^ do you think this makes sense too?
15:09:00 <x3mboy> Yes
15:09:03 * jwf nods
15:09:07 <jwf> #info === [INCOMPLETE] "jwf Work on first draft of FAD event report, share with team for feedback" ===
15:09:10 <jwf> #action jwf Work on first draft of FAD event report, share with team for feedback
15:09:16 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "wesleyotugo Write first draft of "Fedora accepted into GSoC 2018" on CommBlog; write to mailing list when ready for review (final draft due: 2018-02-26)" ===
15:09:21 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-google-summer-of-code-gsoc-2018/
15:09:21 <jwf> #info This was published at the end of February. Thanks wesleyotugo for helping with this.
15:09:30 <jwf> #info === [INCOMPLETE] "jwf Add FAW template in Etherpad as Pagure issue template in contributor-stories repo" ===
15:09:30 <jwf> #action jwf Add FAW template in Etherpad as Pagure issue template in contributor-stories repo
15:09:32 <x3mboy> bee2502_, o/
15:09:35 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "bt0 Write first draft of Contributor Stories article for CommBlog by Monday, Feb. 26 2018" ===
15:09:38 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=5376&preview=1&_ppp=feee34a1c2
15:09:41 <jwf> #info A first draft is available. This needs to be published in March to meet our proposed schedule from the CommOps FAD.
15:09:45 <jwf> #action bt0 Request review for "Contributor stories" article on CommOps mailing list
15:09:48 <jwf> #action commops Review bt0's "Contributor stories" article draft and share feedback
15:09:55 <bt0_> cool
15:10:12 <jwf> #info === "skamath Research (possibly implement) Guard to manage granular permissions between accounts in Kibana by Monday, 2018-02-26" ===
15:10:43 <jwf> I haven't heard from skamath in channel for a while, I will need to follow up with him here
15:10:46 <jwf> #action skamath Research (possibly implement) Guard to manage granular permissions between accounts in Kibana
15:10:48 <jwf> #nick skamath
15:10:53 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Bring #133 as a work task to Docs FAD; pre-prep by reaching out on Docs list for feedback (?)" ===
15:10:57 <jwf> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/WBTBORQPTCXEHKOBX6YNDOUOEMMZY5KP/
15:11:00 <jwf> <eof>
15:11:12 <bee2502_> o/ x3mboy
15:11:17 <bee2502_> .hello bee2502
15:11:19 <jwf> The action items stacked up, since we last met on Feb. 19th :P
15:11:19 <zodbot> bee2502_: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
15:11:25 * jwf waves to bee2502_
15:11:28 <jwf> #chair bee2502_ bee2502
15:11:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502 bee2502_ bt0 bt0_ jwf nb x3mboy
15:11:50 <bt0_> hi bee2502_ o/
15:11:56 <jwf> No other follow-up for action items for now!
15:12:00 <jwf> #topic Tickets
15:12:02 <bee2502_> bt0 o/
15:12:04 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting
15:12:10 <bee2502_> so much progress on FAW
15:12:16 <jwf> #info === Ticket #110: "Fedora Appreciation Week 2017" ===
15:12:21 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/110
15:12:21 <jwf> #link https://screenshots.firefox.com/NDyEhhKzQJ4WpXr4/etherpad.persephone.cloud
15:12:24 <bee2502_> bt0++
15:12:30 <jwf> Need to focus on the outreach campaign. FAW template exists but is blocked by Pagure issue templates. jwf is working on this. bt0 wrote draft of contributor stories intro on CommBlog and needs review.
15:13:12 <jwf> After the two of these things done, our original plan was to begin collecting stories from now until May / June, when we would do more follow-up to try and collect stories
15:14:17 <jwf> So I think the previous action items from a moment ago cover this
15:14:25 <jwf> bt0_: Thanks for putting in the time on a draft.
15:14:38 <bt0_> :)
15:14:39 <jwf> Anyone else want to add anything to FAW planning?
15:14:57 * x3mboy is a little distracted, but reading everything
15:14:57 <jwf> ^^^ assuming my timeline made sense.
15:15:47 <jwf> #info Need to focus on the outreach campaign. FAW template exists but is blocked by Pagure issue templates. jwf is working on this. bt0 wrote draft of contributor stories intro on CommBlog and needs review.
15:16:12 <jwf> #info After the two of these things done, we begin collecting stories from now until May / June, when we do more follow-up to collect new stories
15:16:30 <jwf> FAW planning, going once…
15:16:40 <jwf> Going twice…
15:16:50 <jwf> And thrice!
15:16:55 <jwf> #info === Ticket #114: "Use metrics dashboard to visualize fedmsg data" ===
15:16:55 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/114
15:16:55 <jwf> #link https://screenshots.firefox.com/NDyEhhKzQJ4WpXr4/etherpad.persephone.cloud
15:17:07 <jwf> #info Current goal is to have one type of data feed loaded into our test GrimoireLabs instance. skamath is working on this, pending an update from him.
15:17:11 <jwf> #action jwf Follow up with skamath offline for a progress update
15:17:33 <jwf> Not sure if there is much else we can cover here without skamath?
15:17:39 <bt0_> skamath++
15:18:36 * jwf is thinking, but pulling a blank :-/
15:19:01 <jwf> I have seen some cool progress done whenever I log into the dashboard. I'll work on getting an update on how things are going.
15:19:10 <jwf> Grimoire dashboard, going once…
15:19:20 <jwf> Going twice…
15:19:30 <jwf> And thrice!
15:19:33 <jwf> #info === Ticket #145: "Research other "representation" programs in other open source communities" ===
15:19:37 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/145
15:19:53 <jwf> So, this is a new ticket I wanted to share with folks present
15:20:10 <bt0_> I see the mindshare log
15:20:23 <jwf> The Mindshare Committee is carrying on the charter of FAmSCo and the vision for FOSCo to retool the Ambassadors and modernize the program.
15:21:08 <jwf> The committee is planning to work and implement changes to the structure of Ambassadors to be more effective and efficient.
15:21:23 <jwf> One of the things we hoped for was a perspective to see how other communities run their representation programs
15:21:49 <jwf> Another example that immediately comes to mind is Mozilla Reps
15:21:54 * bt0_ Ambassadors is a big topic for mindshare
15:22:07 <jwf> But the idea for this ticket is to do some digging into what other communities are doing and use them as references
15:22:32 <jwf> So the "deliverable" for this ticket is a list of other open source communities with representation programs and reading information / links on how those programs are run and managed
15:22:46 <bt0_> I take it
15:22:49 <dhanesh95> Am I too late?
15:22:55 * jwf waves to dhanesh95
15:22:57 <jwf> #chair dhanesh95
15:22:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502 bee2502_ bt0 bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf nb x3mboy
15:23:07 <dhanesh95> o/ CommOps
15:23:20 <bt0_> hi dhanesh95
15:23:20 <jwf> #info Mindshare Committee is planning to implement changes to Ambassadors to be more effective and efficient. It would be helpful to see what other open source communities are doing with their own representation programs
15:23:36 <jwf> #idea The "deliverable" is a list of other open source communities with representation programs and reading information / links on how those programs are run and managed
15:23:44 <jwf> bt0_: If you want to take this, that would be awesome!
15:24:08 <jwf> bt0_: When is a realistic timeframe for you to have a first draft of a list?
15:24:10 <bt0_> yeah, action me
15:24:41 <bt0_> the mindshare's meeting is in Mondays too??
15:24:53 <jwf> bt0_: Hahah, yeah, super early if you're on this side of the hemisphere. :D
15:25:10 <jwf> And would you believe it took 30-45 minutes of us being in the same room to find one time that worked for all of us
15:25:30 <bt0_> Wednesday (is holiday in Mexico)
15:25:42 <jwf> Oh, this Wednesday, March 21?
15:25:47 <bt0_> yes
15:26:12 <jwf> Okay, awesome. If we have it by next week's Mindshare meeting, that is the target. Wednesday is great and gives a chance to collect some feedback before the meeting, during the work week
15:26:15 <jwf> I'll action you now.
15:26:30 <bt0_> yes please
15:27:06 <jwf> #action bt0 Prepare a first draft list of other open source communities with representation / advocacy programs with links to their organization / policies (to help inform upcoming changes for Fedora Ambassadors) by Wednesday, March 21, 2018
15:27:21 <jwf> bt0_: Awesome, thanks for jumping on here.
15:27:32 <jwf> I had one other ticket I hoped to visit if roca was here, but I don't see him in channel
15:27:52 <jwf> dhanesh95: Since you're here, is there anything you wanted to visit?
15:28:09 <jwf> Or anyone else – we're early on time, so if we wanted to fit in another ticket or two that someone was eyeing, we can do that.
15:28:27 <jwf> Otherwise, will move to open floor.
15:28:29 <jwf> #chair
15:28:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502 bee2502_ bt0 bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf nb x3mboy
15:28:35 <dhanesh95> jwf: Nothing particular actually. After the FAD, I've been disconnected. I'm still trying to find my ground here.
15:28:49 <jwf> dhanesh95: No worries. New position?
15:29:04 <dhanesh95> jwf: Same position. A lot of work pouring in.
15:29:11 * jwf nods
15:29:27 <jwf> dhanesh95: I can understand that really well :P
15:29:45 <dhanesh95> We've had no progress on the Fedora Magazine plugin after the FAD, right?
15:30:02 <dhanesh95> I mean Fedora Magazine and fedmsg integration.
15:30:43 <jwf> dhanesh95: Not that I've seen.
15:30:59 <dhanesh95> jwf: Can we aim for something this week?
15:31:08 <jwf> Yeah, sure, let me throw the ticket up here.
15:31:58 <jwf> #info === Ticket #108: "Metrics for Community Blog and Fedora Magazine" ===
15:32:03 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/108
15:32:44 <jwf> dhanesh95: How do you want to split this one up for a next milestone?
15:34:04 <dhanesh95> jwf: I mentioned that Huginn is a tool that we can use. It won't require any changes to the WordPress code (hopefully)
15:34:17 <jwf> I was just looking through the repo
15:34:19 <bt0_> awesome
15:34:38 <dhanesh95> jwf: I want to try and hack around the tool this week and see if I can get anything fruitful out of it
15:35:37 <dhanesh95> So a milestone for this week would be to finalize how we're going to tackle this problem. Once we have a solution, we can start on the implementation in the next week.
15:35:37 <jwf> dhanesh95: Makes sense. It would be cool if there's some WordPress support already pre-baked in. It looks like we would have to self-host it, though?
15:35:39 <dhanesh95> Sounds good?
15:36:35 <dhanesh95> jwf: From what I've researched till date, I don't think there is WordPress support already available. And yes, we'll have to self-host it.
15:36:46 * jwf nods
15:37:01 <jwf> dhanesh95: Okay, if you want to play around with it and see if it's a sustainable option, we can revisit next week?
15:37:41 <dhanesh95> jwf: I think let's finalize the solution this week. We can consider that as a milestone. What are your thoughts?
15:38:16 <jwf> That works for me. You've done a lot of legwork already to figure this out, so I'm trusting you :-)
15:38:22 <jwf> I'll make some notes for the minutes
15:38:50 <jwf> #info dhanesh95 discovered an open source tool called Huginn which may enable us to implement fedmsg support for WordPress without writing our own plugin
15:39:30 <jwf> #action dhanesh95 Finish research into implementation solutions and put together a final proposal for how to move forward with WordPress fedmsg integration by Monday, March 26, 2018
15:39:41 <jwf> Sound good?
15:39:47 <dhanesh95> On point.
15:39:51 <jwf> Awesome!
15:39:54 <jwf> #topic Open floor
15:39:59 <jwf> And here we are
15:40:05 <jwf> Anyone have anything else to bring up or share?
15:40:12 <jwf> Oh, yeah:
15:40:13 <jwf> #action jwf Pitch new meeting time in a WhenIsGood poll
15:40:46 <jwf> We talked about that in channel last week and then it fell of my radar
15:40:52 <jwf> This time, I'm actioned and responsible for it :P
15:40:58 <bt0_> Right
15:41:07 <jwf> anything else?
15:41:24 <dhanesh95> #help If anyone would like to pitch in with the Fedora Magazine and fedmsg integration, your help will be highly appreciated. :)
15:41:34 <jwf> :+1:
15:41:39 <dhanesh95> I always wanted to do that :P
15:42:59 <jwf> :-)
15:43:05 <jwf> Then I think we're at a close.
15:43:10 <jwf> Open floor, going once…
15:43:18 <dhanesh95> I've been receiving a lot of emails about Fedora-App. Is there a reason CommOps is looped in on that one?
15:43:20 <jwf> Going twice…
15:43:26 <jwf> dhanesh95: Are you still receiving emails?
15:43:43 <jwf> The tags and ACLs were changed in this past week
15:43:55 <dhanesh95> jwf: I was until yesterday. I haven't received any after that.
15:44:25 <jwf> There were some earlier this morning, so I think you're good now
15:44:43 <dhanesh95> Great!
15:44:57 <jwf> Okay, other than that, I think we're wrapped up here
15:45:01 <dhanesh95> Going thrice...
15:45:07 <jwf> Thanks everyone for coming out today! And see you next week. :-)
15:45:11 <jwf> #endmeeting