01:59:44 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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01:59:48 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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02:00:00 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
02:01:43 <award3535> #chair reher
02:01:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 reher
02:01:50 <award3535> evening reher
02:01:54 <award3535> juggler you there
02:02:08 <reher> Hi award3535. I trust you had a good Thanksgiving!
02:02:33 <award3535> I did indeed, and you
02:02:47 <juggler> o/
02:02:56 <award3535> #chair juggler
02:02:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 juggler reher
02:02:57 <juggler> yes :)
02:03:54 <juggler> do we have a quorum yet?
02:04:31 <award3535> I think this will probably be it tonight
02:05:55 <reher> hey juggler
02:05:59 <award3535> juggler, I did the common meeting grounds for splitting into two meeting for both west and east
02:06:02 <juggler> heyhey reher
02:06:44 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
02:06:48 <juggler> is there a date when that will be happening, or is that pending?
02:07:36 <award3535> #info mindshare, development steering comm, council seat nominations are almost ended
02:07:57 <award3535> juggler, I will have some information here in a minute on the issue
02:08:20 <juggler> no worries
02:08:29 <award3535> #info FAmNA is moving towards a more effective and streamlined meeting schedule which should enable maximum participation for all three regions. As detailed in past meeting it is difficult for both east and west coasts to have a common meeting time that facilitates a good time to conduct meetings. The new process will have two meetings per month. One meeting will be chaired by the designated individual for the west coast
02:08:29 <award3535> individual from the east coast. Each meeting is open to any NA ambassador who wishes to attend. The following guidelines should be followed;
02:09:04 <award3535> 1. 1. Meeting Announcement: FAmNA meetings are to be announced by email via the ambassadors mailing list by the chair at least one week prior to the commencement of the meeting and include meeting time and day. Meetings can also be announced at the end of a current meeting with the next meeting day/time with a reminder emailed on the ambassadors mailing list.
02:09:46 <award3535> 2. Meeting conclusion email must be sent on the ambassadors mailing list at the end of each meeting.
02:10:09 <award3535> 3. Ticket/Voting with respect to Attendance: When a meeting does not have enough ambassadors to vote on a project or event, it causes delays and be frustrating to plan and pitch events. Current rules have a requirement of 5 Ambassadors with a positive vote to approve events/projects will remain in effect. If there is low attendance at the meeting, the issue can be sent to the opposite meeting for final vote. This will re
02:10:09 <award3535> meeting requires vote for event approval. For example, an event on the east coast only has 4 votes (four ambassadors attending the meeting) an update in the ticket must be entered stating the next meeting for the west coast requires a vote on their meeting (and vice versa). Email sent to the ambassadors mailing list should also include the request for opposite meeting vote requirement. All events require a minimum of 5 a
02:10:09 <award3535> the final thumbs up or down when the budget is involved. The treasurer vote is not a vote to approve or disapprove event approvals, just as a check for available funding. The treasure can stop event/project planning until budget will support what is being requested.
02:10:09 <award3535> 4. Meeting time and day are determined by the regional ambassador and/or meeting chair for west and east coast. Central time zone ambassadors will have to attend one or both meetings as desired since the time difference is not as drastic as east and west coasts.
02:10:28 <award3535> 5. Meeting format: FAmNA will continue to hold the same meeting format for each coast as follows; Meeting Name, Roll Call, Announcements, Tickets, and Open Floor.
02:10:42 <award3535> 6. Event planning guidelines will be revised to reflect Mindshare initiatives.
02:10:56 <award3535> 7. By moving towards this type of format will require more work and imitative on our ambassadors. Event wiki pages and event information must be ready prior to the meeting voting. If you do not have your information posted on a wiki when asking for a budget, ambassadors should not approve the event. Wiki and pagure ticket must include the required items. This responsibility rests with the regional ambassadors for North A
02:11:21 <award3535> this information will be placed in the ticket as well
02:11:41 <award3535> #eof
02:12:01 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
02:12:31 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues
02:12:49 <award3535> .famnaticket 190
02:12:57 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #190: FAmNA meetings moving to Bi weekly over next few months - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/190
02:14:24 <juggler> award: just a correction to #7: imitative --> initiative (most likely)
02:14:38 <award3535> juggler yes thank you
02:14:49 * juggler nods
02:16:24 <award3535> jugglervI would like to split these meetings asap and let you guys on the west coast come up with a meeting time/day, just ensure you announce it with the mailing list
02:17:55 <award3535> juggler since you are the most likely candidate for chairing the meetings for your group and seem to be the most connected at the time, I will email those on the west coast with this proposal
02:18:03 <juggler> award could you provide me a list in e-mail of who the westcoasters are?
02:18:21 <juggler> excellent
02:18:48 <award3535> juggler I do not have a specific list but I will email those I know, with you on the list as well
02:18:53 <juggler> I don't know how adept I'll be at chairing, but we'll see how things go.
02:19:21 <award3535> the mailing list for all ambassadors must be used when announcing your meetings
02:19:31 <juggler> I think for me personally, I would like to delay the split until after the new year based on my current situation. But that's my 2 cents. :)
02:21:05 <award3535> ok, then January it will be since there is only one meeting for next month
02:21:23 <juggler> my well-being says "thank you!" :)
02:22:00 <award3535> .famnaticket 191
02:22:01 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #191: Fedora Event: SCaLE 16x - Pasadena, CA - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/191
02:22:15 <award3535> juggler any update on this ticket
02:22:54 <juggler> I do apologize, I have not had the chance to speak with the others.
02:23:42 <juggler> please table that one, thank you.
02:24:23 <award3535> juggler, I just added an estimated amount for the budget because bex needed that information added.
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02:24:48 <juggler> thank you.
02:24:56 <award3535> since your event is actually in Q1 of FY19, but will have to be paid for in Q4 of FY18
02:25:04 <award3535> #chair kk4wt
02:25:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 juggler kk4wt reher
02:25:13 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
02:25:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 juggler kk4ewt kk4wt reher
02:25:31 <award3535> evening kk4ewt
02:25:35 <kk4ewt> howdy
02:25:37 <juggler> hello kk4ewt
02:26:02 <award3535> -chair kk4wt
02:27:06 <award3535> juggler, since SCALE16x is approaching fast I would get as much done as you can prior to Feb 2018.
02:27:15 <reher> hey kk4ewt
02:27:27 <award3535> we will more than likely be shut down for funds the end of january
02:28:08 <juggler> award will try, thanks.
02:29:22 <award3535> and since that will be on your meetings, just keep in mind the minimum votes required to approve an event and you can reach out to the rest of us for more votes
02:29:48 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
02:30:43 <award3535> does anyone have any thing else for us tonight
02:30:49 <juggler> award3535 I'm sure I'll be reaching out to you for assistance. Thanks.
02:31:35 <award3535> juggler no worries, once you guys announce your meeting time/day I will more than likely be attending as well just not chairing
02:31:49 <juggler> award nothing else here for the time being.
02:31:52 <kk4ewt> none from me, other than i hope Julie is doing well
02:31:58 <reher> I'm good. Fossetcon never did happen :/
02:32:15 <reher> I will probably attend the west coast meeting as well.
02:32:31 <juggler> I hope she is doing better too
02:32:45 <kk4ewt> award3535,  hopefully you will still make SELF next year since TLF has announced the same weekend
02:32:55 <award3535> reher I know such a bummer, I was looking forward to that
02:33:46 <award3535> kk4ewt no TLF for me next year, since they did not plan it this year, we have a few folks there that can represent fedora
02:34:14 <award3535> Thank you all, my wife is better, her followup is tomorrow
02:34:20 <kk4ewt> great rather have you at SELF
02:34:27 <juggler> award yea!
02:35:00 <award3535> kk4ewt I would rather be at SELF
02:35:29 <juggler> btw, anyone here have experience designing badges? or is that  jflory question?
02:35:50 <award3535> juggler, nb does, contact him
02:36:09 <reher> Yeah, nb did SELF last year I think.
02:36:38 <award3535> reher, you are correct
02:36:52 <kk4ewt> nb has actually did several
02:37:07 <juggler> ah, thanks for the tips all
02:38:30 <juggler> I will need to be heading out shortly for work. Anything else from me before I drop off?
02:40:44 <award3535> I have nothing else specifically for you, the next meeting combined will be on 7 Dec 2017 2100 east
02:41:20 <juggler> noted
02:42:05 <juggler> have a good night award, reher, kk4ewt, and others here..
02:42:13 <reher> night
02:42:15 <award3535> juggler you as well
02:42:32 <award3535> reher, kk4ewt do you have anything else for us tonight
02:42:40 <kk4ewt> reher,  and yes i hope you can make it to SELF  again as well
02:42:55 <kk4ewt> award3535,  other than updated f27 isos now exists
02:43:33 <reher> you bet kk4ewt! :)
02:44:30 <award3535> ok, I think that is all for tonight, kk4ewt and reher thanks for showing up
02:45:14 <award3535> everyone have a good evening....
02:45:17 <award3535> #endmeeting