13:00:34 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 13:00:34 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 29 13:00:34 2017 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:34 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:34 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 13:00:37 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 13:00:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 13:00:40 <stickster> #topic Roll call 13:00:42 <stickster> .hello pfrields 13:00:43 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 13:00:47 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch 13:00:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: ryanlerch stickster 13:02:16 * stickster looks around to see who's here 13:03:07 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch 13:03:08 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 13:03:11 <stickster> hola 13:03:19 <stickster> #topic Last week's stats (and the week before) 13:03:23 <ryanlerch> good morning stickster 13:03:34 <stickster> good evening ryanlerch! 13:03:48 <stickster> #info Week of Nov 13 (release week!) -- > 160K views, best week ever AFAICT 13:04:14 <stickster> #info Week of Nov 20 (last week) -- > 80.6K views, a very good week as well 13:04:49 <stickster> Our month of November is almost 373K views, now the best month ever 13:05:02 <ryanlerch> wowsers 13:05:12 <stickster> I haven't done the calculation but I think 3M views for 2017 is within reach 13:05:50 <stickster> #info also thanks to ryanlerch for keeping things churning last week during USA holidays 13:05:53 <stickster> ryanlerch++ 13:05:53 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:05:58 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY 13:06:02 <ryanlerch> thanks stickster! 13:06:08 <ryanlerch> stickster++ 13:06:08 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for pfrields changed to 8 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:06:19 <stickster> ryanlerch: Shall we look at pending review stuff? 13:06:20 <ryanlerch> for taking a holiday! 13:06:57 * cverna waves 13:06:59 <stickster> lol 13:07:03 <ryanlerch> #info 2,860,322 so far this year 13:07:04 <stickster> o/ cverna 13:07:08 <stickster> ryanlerch: WE CAN DO IT! 13:07:56 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts 13:07:59 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post 13:08:33 <stickster> #info --- Argbash --- 13:08:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19340&preview=1&_ppp=9a0c81829f 13:09:00 <stickster> #info stickster edited this argbash article yesterday, so it just needs a featured image to go out when we want it 13:09:12 <stickster> could go as early as Friday? 13:10:10 <stickster> ryanlerch: would you be able to whip one of those up? 13:10:25 <ryanlerch> stickster: for sure! 13:10:55 <stickster> #action ryanlerch make featured image for argbash article and schedule for 8 UTC on 01-Dec-2017 13:11:24 <stickster> #info --- COPR cool projects for December --- 13:11:30 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19535&preview=1&_ppp=9e02be5e63 13:11:46 <stickster> Neat, another monthly COPR article from Dominik 13:12:14 <stickster> I could take this one and have it ready for Monday 13:12:59 <stickster> cverna: don't worry, we haven't forgotten about you :-D 13:13:02 <ryanlerch> awesome! 13:13:09 <ryanlerch> peek is a neat one! 13:13:10 <cverna> :D 13:13:15 <stickster> #action stickster edit COPR article and do featured image for Monday Dec 4 13:13:20 <cverna> I am looking at the preview :P 13:13:21 <stickster> #info --- 13:13:23 <stickster> #undo 13:13:23 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 13:13:21 : --- 13:13:46 <stickster> #info --- Quantum F27 look --- 13:13:50 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19481&preview=1&_ppp=7028186bea 13:14:00 <stickster> This one's a bit of a surprise, but a fine idea for a short-topic post 13:15:00 <stickster> cverna: Did you want to try your hand at editing an article? 13:15:29 <cverna> Sure 13:15:53 <stickster> cverna: Your command of English is quite strong and I'm sure you could do a good job 13:16:08 <ryanlerch> i think we can re-use the FF logo image we used for the last quantam post if we have too 13:16:17 <ryanlerch> cverna++ 13:16:18 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for cverna changed to 2 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:16:30 <stickster> ryanlerch: agreed, esp. since it doesn't appear on the front page any longer 13:16:42 <stickster> cverna: If you want a couple tips... I would say this article needs: 13:17:14 <cverna> stickster: yeah that's a good idea, I am up for it :) 13:17:22 <stickster> cool! 13:17:41 <stickster> cverna: from a quick review, my suggestions: 13:17:42 <stickster> 1. Move explanation about client side to the earlier part of the article, instead of it being almost a footnote... and expand it slightly to explain better 13:18:46 <stickster> 2. Correct the markup in the short instructions to use italics, and make sure the steps are complete (how does one "make it true"?) 13:18:59 <cverna> ok, sounds good 13:19:10 <stickster> That's pretty much it, a short and sweet tip 13:19:43 <stickster> We might want to swap this and publish it Monday if you have it ready in a few days... that seems possible since it's so short 13:20:02 <stickster> It's completely up to you, but let us know what you think, and that way we can have something else ready if needed 13:20:14 <cverna> yes it looks doable 13:20:18 <stickster> cverna++ 13:20:18 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for cverna changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:20:21 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY!!!! 13:20:31 <cverna> \o/ 13:21:00 <cverna> so many cookies in this meeting, I ll be back 13:21:04 <stickster> lol 13:21:23 <stickster> #action cverna edit the Quantum client side deco article, hoping for Monday publication 13:21:50 <stickster> #topic Draft posts for review 13:21:56 <stickster> #info --- Atomic blog roundup --- 13:23:17 <stickster> #link I *think* jberkus was readying this up, but I can't tell whether he's done editing -- I'll remind him to move it to Pending Review once he's done, so we can schedule... 13:23:21 <stickster> oh darn it 13:23:22 <stickster> #undo 13:23:22 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x38a6b450> 13:23:41 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19338&preview=1&_ppp=a902a4db13 13:23:46 <stickster> I *think* jberkus was readying this up, but I can't tell whether he's done editing -- I'll remind him to move it to Pending Review once he's done, so we can schedule... 13:24:12 <stickster> ryanlerch: what do you think about pre-empting other posts for this once ready? 13:24:32 * stickster would like to see more Atomic love out there 13:24:45 <ryanlerch> stickster: you mean doing more atomic posts? 13:25:04 <stickster> yeah, with this as a good start :-) 13:25:24 <ryanlerch> yeah -- i dont really know much about atomic thought 13:25:28 <stickster> I believe there's a working rpm-ostree based Workstation stream now, so I suspect we'll have more coming on that later 13:25:34 <ryanlerch> some more how-to stuff would be awesome! 13:25:54 * stickster should twist puiterwijk's arm to do an article based on his talk, he mentioned that some time ago 13:26:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: Oh! jberkus did email the list and tell us the post was updated, so this is now good to go 13:26:26 <cverna> I have pitch for how to kind of stuff 13:26:41 <cverna> but I did not have time to put down 13:27:12 <cverna> I wanted to present pss https://github.com/eliben/pss 13:27:35 <cverna> it is a tool for searching inside source code 13:27:40 <stickster> cverna: Cool! Let's finish up drafts and then we can consider that first in pitches 13:27:49 <cverna> ok 13:27:50 <ryanlerch> stickster: should we do the atomic one on friday, and push argbash to monday? 13:28:00 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah, that's what I was thinking too 13:28:21 * stickster will wait until end of meeting to propose schedule, that makes more sense :-D 13:28:29 <ryanlerch> oratomic tomorrow, to try to squeeze more out of november ;) 13:28:34 <stickster> lol 13:28:38 <ryanlerch> stickster: sorry! 13:28:45 <ryanlerch> getting ahead of myself there 13:28:49 <stickster> ryanlerch: no no, it was my fault for putting dates on things early 13:29:00 <stickster> I should have already learned that lesson 13:29:04 <stickster> anyhoo 13:29:33 <stickster> #info --- DIY Jukebox part 2 --- 13:29:44 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19529&preview=1&_ppp=4a463c7b1e 13:30:05 <stickster> I think this article may be ready and just needs editing/image 13:30:50 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can do the image for this one too! 13:31:02 <stickster> #action ryanlerch do featured image for jukebox post 13:31:24 <stickster> I'll take on editing, it's pretty long but also doesn't look too bad to edit 13:31:30 <stickster> #action stickster edit jukebox post 13:32:14 <stickster> #info --- GNOME Builder debugging --- 13:32:24 <ryanlerch> this sound bit-perfect stuff is a bit outta my league 13:32:47 <stickster> it's not clear to me that's wholly accurate either so I'll give it a good read to the best of my ability 13:32:49 * ryanlerch uses headphones turned up to 120% for speakers 13:32:51 <stickster> lol 13:33:02 <stickster> now we know what to get you for Christmas 13:33:05 <ryanlerch> real audiophile stuff there 13:33:23 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=19456&preview=1&_ppp=427e41fb09 13:33:40 <stickster> So this GNOME Builder article seems to still need a couple things like the repo URL for the example project 13:33:50 <stickster> once sub_pop[m] has that done we can review further 13:33:58 <stickster> for now, moving on... 13:34:02 <ryanlerch> this is a neat idea! 13:34:16 <stickster> indeed! 13:34:42 <stickster> I *love* this article, we might also want to see if chergert wants to look at it and give any feedback 13:35:12 <stickster> #info --- openbox --- 13:35:39 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18968&preview=1&_ppp=8f852fbf04 13:36:35 <stickster> So I would love to get this one out too, but I need to build up fortitude... I had edited the whole thing and the author inadvertently wiped out all my edits. Restoring them is less than fun because I have to manually re-merge them back 13:37:02 <ryanlerch> :( 13:37:05 <cverna> :( 13:37:07 <stickster> But I *will* get to it, maybe this Friday afternoon when I typically have some quiet time 13:37:15 <puiterwijk> stickster: I was waiting for us to be able to ship updates to the Atomic Workstation tree, which we can as of about two days. So writing that article is on my todo list now again 13:37:17 <stickster> Then we could have it scheduled any time 13:37:23 <stickster> puiterwijk: AWESOME 13:37:24 <ryanlerch> stickster: awesome! 13:37:26 <stickster> puiterwijk++ 13:37:27 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 21 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:37:38 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY!!!!!!!!!!1!!! 13:37:44 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk++ 13:37:44 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 22 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:37:51 <ryanlerch> 22! OMG! 13:38:01 <stickster> puiterwijk *IS* Cookie Monster 13:38:07 <puiterwijk> stickster++ ryanlerch++ 13:38:09 <zodbot> puiterwijk: Karma for pfrields changed to 9 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:38:11 * puiterwijk is still trying to get to the next level 13:38:12 <zodbot> puiterwijk: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 5 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:38:19 <cverna> puiterwijk++ 13:38:19 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 23 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:38:31 <cverna> I almost missed the cookie party :P 13:38:32 <stickster> https://media.giphy.com/media/bAlYQOugzX9sY/giphy.gif 13:38:37 <puiterwijk> I'm just up to the 200 one, there's a new 400 one named "Stroopwafel" :) 13:38:40 <puiterwijk> cverna++ 13:38:53 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: please name the next one timtam! 13:38:54 <stickster> puiterwijk: LOL 13:39:05 <stickster> ryanlerch: I still have that container of timtams 13:39:09 <stickster> haven't busted it open yet 13:39:17 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: this one got its name because I got the "unicorn poop" badge the first :) 13:39:27 <stickster> haha, that one was my idea 13:39:28 <puiterwijk> So maybe if you get the Stroopwafel one first? :D 13:39:30 <stickster> my wife made those 13:39:45 <puiterwijk> Hah, cool! 13:39:48 <pingou> Stroopwafel ? 13:39:51 <stickster> http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/unicorn-poop-cookies 13:40:04 <stickster> pingou: only the best thing ever 13:40:06 * pingou realizes that he still have a pack of Stroopwafel 13:40:15 <stickster> NOT FOR LONG 13:40:16 <pingou> lol 13:40:23 <pingou> stickster: bring some to devconf :) 13:40:46 <stickster> pingou: puiterwijk always supplies us since he gets them for next to nothing in the Home of Stroopwafels 13:40:54 <stickster> or is it Stroopwafeln? 13:40:55 <stickster> no idea 13:41:01 <stickster> ANYWAY... back to meeting 13:41:03 <Southern_Gentlem> stickster++ pingou++ ryanlerch++ puiterwijk++ 13:41:04 <puiterwijk> stroopwafels is right :) 13:41:05 <pingou> stickster: I meant the unicon cookies 13:41:15 <stickster> pingou: OH! I will see about that, then, for sure 13:41:28 <pingou> \o/ 13:41:29 <stickster> my wife always looks for excuses to bake sweet things 13:41:42 <stickster> #topic Pitches 13:41:45 <pingou> I can make up tons of excuses :) 13:41:51 <stickster> cverna: go ahead and tell us about PSS! 13:42:35 <cverna> I was thinking to make an article on How to improve you code searching skills 13:43:14 <cverna> So I could present pss https://github.com/eliben/pss and some simple use cases 13:43:24 <cverna> it is packaged in fedora 13:44:08 <stickster> I love it! Developer-focused articles++. +1 from me 13:44:32 <cverna> There is quite a lot of code searching tool ( https://beyondgrep.com/more-tools/) 13:45:09 <cverna> so I could do 2-3 articles 13:46:15 <stickster> cverna: If these are short coverage, you could do the article as "3 code searching tools for Fedora" 13:46:30 <stickster> If longer, it could also be separate articles, certainly 13:46:51 <stickster> there are options :-) 13:47:04 <stickster> ryanlerch: ^ does the pitch sound OK though? 13:49:26 * stickster clears out some junk articles someone created by mistake 13:49:40 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 from me! 13:49:52 <stickster> #agreed pitch on PSS/code search tools approved 13:50:01 <stickster> #action cverna Go forth and write search tools article(s)! :-) 13:50:08 <cverna> sorry was afk for 2 min 13:50:10 <stickster> That's the only new pitch not on the list 13:50:15 <cverna> great 13:50:31 <stickster> ryanlerch: Jogender Kvs has email about robotics articles that I think we can +/-1 on list 13:51:05 <stickster> I'm +1 on them, esp. with mattdm idea about splitting in two parts, one to introduce people to robotics using v-rep, and the other on diving into the tool use 13:51:41 <ryanlerch> yeah those are a +1 from me too! 13:52:29 <stickster> #agreed robotics articles are +1 to go 13:52:40 <stickster> #action stickster follow up on list with instructions to the author 13:52:51 <stickster> #topic All other business (open floor) 13:52:58 <stickster> I have one item here, which is meeting schedule 13:53:30 <stickster> I would like to fix this meeting time to make it more predictable. We don't seem to have any more attendees whether we do it early or late, so might as well stick to one that works for those who show up 13:54:56 <cverna> if this is early it works better for me :) 13:55:25 <stickster> lol, sorry -- I was being TZ-centric... it's early for me, 08:00, but still do-able 13:55:50 <stickster> the late time was 18:00 for me, but that's *VERY* late in EU, and hard for ryanlerch to attend 13:56:16 <ryanlerch> yeah, early (US time) is ok for me 13:56:25 <ryanlerch> it's late, but works 13:56:25 <stickster> anyone opposed to fixing the time at 08:00 US-Eastern? Right now that's 1300 UTC. 13:56:52 <stickster> ryanlerch: late works better for you than morning, right? 13:57:00 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah! 13:57:03 <stickster> coolio 13:57:18 <stickster> cverna: happy to have you here, we hope you'll attend in future too 13:57:18 <ryanlerch> even better now most of my meetings are late now :) 13:57:26 <ryanlerch> cverna++ 13:57:34 <ryanlerch> awww, no cookies left 13:57:39 <stickster> #agreed Fix meeting at 08:00 US-Eastern (currently 1300 UTC) weekly 13:57:49 <stickster> OK, that's all I have, anyone else? 13:57:50 <ryanlerch> cverna: great to have you here for sure! 13:58:02 <cverna> when I can, I will attend :) 13:58:07 <cverna> thanks ryanlerch 13:58:54 <cverna> I kind of started contributing to Fedora because of the Magazine so this is my payback. 13:59:04 <stickster> :-) 13:59:11 <stickster> lol "payback" 13:59:14 <ryanlerch> cverna: that is what we like to hear! 13:59:16 <ryanlerch> :D 13:59:18 <stickster> "That's what you get!" 13:59:27 <cverna> :D 13:59:28 <mattdm> council meeting here in 30 seconds :) 13:59:35 <stickster> OK, thanks for coming everyone! 13:59:41 * stickster scoots to make way for Council 13:59:47 <stickster> #endmeeting