21:00:22 <jonatoni> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2017-11-08
21:00:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov  8 21:00:22 2017 UTC.  The chair is jonatoni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:00:22 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
21:00:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2017-11-08'
21:00:35 <jonatoni> #meetingname emea_ambassadors
21:00:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
21:00:48 <Kohane> Hello!
21:00:49 <jonatoni> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Please note the meeting protocol is in order: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol - Use ‘!’ to ask for permission to speak, or ‘?’ to ask a question. End with ‘eof’.
21:00:56 <eseyman> hello, folks
21:01:04 <Kohane> .fas lailah
21:01:04 <jonatoni> #topic Roll Call
21:01:04 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
21:01:11 <eseyman> .fas eseyman
21:01:12 <zodbot> eseyman: eseyman 'Emmanuel Seyman' <emmanuel@seyman.fr>
21:01:14 <jonatoni> hello kohane eseyman
21:01:23 <jonatoni> .hello2
21:01:24 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
21:01:25 <marianab[m]> Good evening :)
21:01:32 <Kohane> Hi jonatoni
21:02:40 <jonatoni> we can wait a bit for other people to show up
21:02:51 <Kohane> sure
21:04:21 <marianab[m]> .fas marianab
21:04:22 <zodbot> marianab[m]: marianab 'Mariana Balla' <marianaballa848@gmail.com>
21:04:34 <jonatoni> #topic Announcements
21:04:49 <jonatoni> #info The "Ambassadors briefing" wikipage gather links to the most important pages an Ambassador should read for having the best knowledge for the events F27 related.
21:04:57 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_Ambassadors_briefing
21:05:17 <jonatoni> #info Release status of the Fedora 27 Final is NO-GO. The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, November 9th. The GA date for the F27 Final release moves 2017-Nov-14.
21:05:30 <jonatoni> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/f27-final-and-server-beta-go-no-go-meeting/f27-final-and-server-beta-go-no-go-meeting.2017-11-02-17.00.html
21:05:48 <jonatoni> #info Fedora Mindshare Comittee will have two dedicated seats for Ambassadors. Candidates need to be officially appointed by December 11th.
21:05:57 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare
21:06:13 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Representatives
21:06:47 <jonatoni> we will discuss again about Mindshare later
21:06:51 <jonatoni> #info With another Fedora release not so far away, it’s time for the Ambassadors to plan their activities around the release
21:07:03 <jonatoni> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/
21:07:13 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_release_events
21:07:31 <jonatoni> #info Autumn Elections 2017: Collection of questions for Questionnaire has been started
21:07:42 <jonatoni> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4SD76TFNL4HKBXZURIT262PBANOY46XO/
21:08:00 <jonatoni> #info Flock 2018 will be held in the EMEA (Europe, Middle East and Africa) region. If you’d like to help host the event in your city, it’s time to start putting together a bid. Deadline: 12 November 2017
21:08:09 <jonatoni> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-2018-bidding-open/
21:08:36 <jonatoni> #info Nov. 3 was the 14th anniversary of Fedora. Thanks to all of the Ambassadors who have been a part of the Freedom, Friends, Features, First journey so far. :)
21:08:47 <jonatoni> #link https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2003-November/msg00000.html
21:09:00 <jonatoni> Any other announcements?
21:09:07 <Kohane> Oh, I didn't know about that anniversary
21:09:27 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
21:09:28 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
21:09:44 <jonatoni> hello robyduck :)
21:09:53 <robyduck> hi jonatoni hi all
21:10:04 * robyduck late as always
21:10:17 <jonatoni> If we don't have more announcement we can move on
21:10:38 <jonatoni> #topic Requests
21:10:39 <rsc> .hello robert
21:10:40 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
21:10:53 <jonatoni> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issues
21:11:02 <jonatoni> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-budget
21:11:09 <jonatoni> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org/budget/FY18/emea.html
21:11:17 * jonatoni checks for new requests
21:11:41 <jonatoni> #info Ticket #30, Funding for 34C3C
21:11:48 <jonatoni> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/30
21:11:57 <jonatoni> kohane, your turn :)
21:12:14 <Kohane> Oh
21:12:19 * jonatoni waves at rsc :)
21:12:19 <Kohane> Yes, sorry
21:12:35 <eseyman> that reminds me I need to make a request
21:12:57 <jonatoni> everyone please review the ticket
21:14:42 <jonatoni> if we don't have questions can we vote please?
21:14:46 <robyduck> Kohane: can you define Fedora Assembly? What's the plan?
21:15:41 <robyduck> ohh, it's in the wiki page
21:15:47 <Kohane> These conferences give two ways to participate, giving talks and organising assemblies.
21:16:56 <Kohane> In an assembly you can show things related to the topic, in this case Fedora, give information, small talks, show hardware, etc.
21:17:47 <jonatoni> AFAIK assemblies are similar to info booths that we had at FOSDEM or other conferences
21:17:56 <Kohane> Given the 3C organises such a huge conference I thought it would be great for Fedora to be there. I missed the deadline for talks but I can organise an assembly
21:18:00 <Kohane> Yes, they are
21:18:25 <jonatoni> I agree that we need Fedora presence there
21:18:32 <jonatoni> +1 from my part
21:18:43 * nmilosev better late than never!
21:18:50 * nmilosev o/ all
21:18:52 <robyduck> the wiki page says 2 persons for 700 euro, ticket is for 1 person (you).
21:19:15 * jonatoni waves at nmilosev
21:19:28 <Kohane> Yes, because Lesik didn't open his own ticket yet.
21:19:31 <robyduck> are you going alone? Or will we have another request?
21:19:37 <Kohane> He's been busy with university
21:19:40 <Kohane> I hope not.
21:19:42 <pkwesihanson> +1
21:20:24 <Kohane> I'll go anyway but I would prefer to have someone else to help me.
21:20:52 <jonatoni> yep would be great to be at least two people at the assembly
21:21:34 <Kohane> Agree.
21:21:44 <jonatoni> Any other question for Kohane?
21:22:04 <jonatoni> if not, we can vote
21:22:30 <nmilosev> Can you please link the ticket for me?
21:22:36 <Kohane> robyduck: Maybe my reply was a bit confusing. I meant, I hope not to go alone. There should be at least one more request.
21:22:56 <jonatoni> nmilosev https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/30
21:23:57 <robyduck> got it, but then we expect 600, right?
21:25:16 <jonatoni> we are within the budget, even with 600 EUR
21:28:21 <jonatoni> Can we vote please, so we can move on
21:28:51 <jonatoni> robyduck rsc nmilosev
21:29:24 <nmilosev> I checked the ticket
21:29:27 <nmilosev> Looks ok to me
21:30:00 <nmilosev> +1 from me
21:30:27 <robyduck> well, it's rather much, we didn't spent that much neither for Froscon, but anyway, we are within the budget, so +1. I hope we will have an outcome and some nice blog posts ;)
21:30:50 <Kohane> Granted. :-)
21:30:58 <jonatoni> so until now we have 4 votes (+1)
21:31:02 <jonatoni> we need one more
21:31:16 <rsc> +1 from me also in the hope of outcome, given 34C3C is mostly hackers, but less Linux IMHO
21:31:42 <jonatoni> Good luck kohane, keep us updated :)
21:31:48 <jonatoni> #agreed Ticket 30 Approved
21:32:02 <jonatoni> #info Ticket #31, Funding request for FOSSCOMM (Fuel)
21:32:11 <jonatoni> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/31
21:32:20 <jonatoni> ping mitzie, are you around?
21:32:59 <Kohane> thanks!!
21:33:15 <jonatoni> meanwhile we can review the ticket #31
21:33:35 <robyduck> +1 for this
21:33:46 <nmilosev> +1 also
21:33:48 <jonatoni> +1
21:33:53 <Kohane> +1
21:34:27 <jonatoni> one more vote
21:34:49 <jonatoni> rsc ping
21:35:08 <rsc> +1
21:35:20 <jonatoni> #agreed Ticket 31 Approved
21:35:35 <jonatoni> we don't have more tickets to review for tonight
21:35:47 <jonatoni> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
21:35:56 <jonatoni> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-27/f-27-ambassadors-tasks.html
21:36:03 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule
21:36:11 <jonatoni> #info The GA date for the F27 Final release moves 2017-Nov-14
21:36:21 <jonatoni> Any questions regarding the schedule?
21:36:29 <nmilosev> <3 release parties
21:36:36 <jonatoni> me too :)
21:36:46 <Kohane> jonatoni: give me a moment to read, please
21:37:13 <jonatoni> kohane: yes, sure
21:37:28 <nmilosev> Everyone remember to put your events on the wiki page
21:37:32 <nmilosev> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_release_events
21:37:45 <nmilosev> I noticed we have much more events than it is visible
21:38:05 <jonatoni> yep, definitely
21:38:31 <jonatoni> btw the next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, November 9th (tomorrow)
21:38:44 <Kohane> I don't see any events for EMEA
21:38:57 <Kohane> Is it because I'm not logged in?
21:38:57 <nmilosev> I didn't put ours yet
21:39:08 <nmilosev> Nah, on the wiki everything is public
21:39:16 <nmilosev> It's still early :)
21:39:16 <jonatoni> Kohane: we don't have any events planned
21:39:23 <jonatoni> yet
21:39:24 <Kohane> Ah, okay
21:39:41 <jonatoni> Any other question? or we can move on
21:39:42 <eseyman> that page isn't generated automatically?
21:39:55 <jonatoni> eseyman nope
21:40:04 <Kohane> I'd like to have a release party in Stuttgart, but it's hard if it's me alone.
21:40:12 <jonatoni> we update it manually with the events we organize
21:40:54 <rsc> Kohane: depends where and when. And what to do. I'm in Stuttgart.
21:41:10 <Kohane> Really? Yay!
21:41:21 <Kohane> I thought I was the only one from Fedora here
21:41:37 <jonatoni> now you can organize a RP :)
21:41:40 <rsc> Kohane: There are multiple Fedora contributors and ambassadors in Stuttgart region.
21:42:01 <robyduck> Kohane: it's 14 years rsc is there as ambassador :)
21:42:01 <Kohane> rsc: I didn't know. I'm so happy.
21:42:17 <Kohane> Well, I moved here this year.
21:42:21 <eseyman> jonatoni: edited
21:42:30 <jonatoni> thanks eseyman
21:42:31 <rsc> Kohane: let's follow up this separately maybe :)
21:42:37 <Kohane> Sure!
21:42:48 <jonatoni> ok moving on
21:42:51 <jonatoni> #topic Events
21:43:01 <jonatoni> Any events happening near you? Would you like to report from some event that you've been to?
21:43:27 <eseyman> There are 3 events during the next month in France
21:44:00 <jonatoni> will you have a talk there?
21:44:47 <eseyman> the first one is Capitole du Libre in Toulouse, France
21:45:11 * misc have 2 talks there
21:45:16 <eseyman> we'll have a booth and I'll be doing a Perl-related talk, not Fedora-related
21:45:27 <eseyman> the second event is JM2L
21:45:31 <misc> (one related to desktop security and Fedora)
21:45:53 <eseyman> we have a booth and one talk was been submitted
21:46:19 <eseyman> The last event is Paris Open Source Summit (I'll let you guess the city)
21:46:29 <mitzie> Sorry for the delay! :(
21:46:29 <eseyman> booth, no talks submitted
21:46:36 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
21:46:37 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
21:46:50 <eseyman> eof
21:46:54 <jonatoni> best of luck eseyman misc :)
21:46:59 <eseyman> thanks
21:47:26 <jonatoni> Any other event that you want to report?
21:47:40 * jonatoni mitzie o/
21:48:03 <eseyman> F27 release party planned for January 2018 but that's a little way off
21:48:21 <jonatoni> If not we can move on, we don't have a lot of time and I want to discuss about Mindshare
21:48:31 <jonatoni> eseyman: yes right, we have time for that one :)
21:48:42 <jonatoni> #topic Action items from previous meetings
21:48:52 <jonatoni> #info mitzie to write to ML about Fedorator distribution
21:49:07 <jonatoni> ping mitzie
21:49:31 <mitzie> I'll handle that
21:49:39 <jonatoni> okay
21:49:49 <eseyman> sorry, I need to run. So long, folks
21:49:57 <jonatoni> we don't have any other pending items
21:50:08 <jonatoni> bye eseyman :)
21:50:16 <mitzie> giannisk said at Flock that he would start the process but he resssigned since then and did not post something at the ML
21:50:37 <jonatoni> yes, right
21:51:16 <jonatoni> #topic Open Floor
21:51:30 <jonatoni> robyduck, your turn :)
21:51:45 <robyduck> yeah
21:51:48 <jonatoni> I mentioned Mindshare even in the beginning
21:51:57 <jonatoni> but we can discuss about it now
21:52:14 <robyduck> Fedora Mindshare Comittee is looking for 2 representatives of the ambassadors group
21:52:36 <robyduck> MIndshare has appointed and elected seats, please look at:
21:52:45 <robyduck> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare
21:52:57 <jonatoni> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare
21:53:41 <robyduck> finding 2 representatives for a group which is very big and in any timezone, will be tricky, so I've set up a wiki page to collect nominations
21:53:43 <robyduck> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Representatives
21:54:24 <robyduck> remember, these are only to be discussed by ambassadors and ambassadors will appoint 2 persons for the next 2 release cycles
21:55:02 <robyduck> which is different from nominations to be elected (there are 2 seats to be elected). Any contributor can nominate
21:55:04 <nmilosev> Would I be a good candidate for this?
21:55:07 <robyduck> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
21:55:51 <Kohane> nmilosev: is that a question or you're affirming that you would be good?
21:56:13 <robyduck> nmilosev: I think anyone should keep in mind that initially MIndshare will need to take many decisions about how to work, set up guidelines etc. It will request some time from anyone who will be in the Comittee
21:56:40 <nmilosev> Kohane, question aimed at robyduck
21:56:45 <nmilosev> robyduck, got it
21:56:45 <robyduck> for now, there is no nomination at all
21:56:59 <robyduck> and time is running
21:57:29 <robyduck> For now only Marketing appointed their representative
21:57:34 <jonatoni> Candidates need to be officially appointed by December 11th, right?
21:57:54 <Kohane> I understand that the nomination period didn't start yet. Am I wrong, robyduck ?
21:58:06 <robyduck> jonatoni: correct, by the end of the election period, which is now a week later?
21:58:21 <robyduck> Kohane: nomination started already
21:59:10 <Kohane> Why the wiki says that the nomination period starts in Nov 21 ?
21:59:18 <Kohane> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
22:00:35 <robyduck> Kohane: mmh, right
22:00:50 <robyduck> but I think we should add nominations
22:01:16 <jonatoni> robyduck: someone that wants to join Mindshare can add their name at the wiki and that's all? I'm asking because I want to participate that's why
22:01:22 <robyduck> MIndshare is new, so people will need more time to get familiar
22:01:30 <robyduck> jonatoni: yes
22:01:43 <jonatoni> okay, thanks
22:01:57 <robyduck> and once the nomination period is over you need to answer the questions, you will get an email
22:02:21 <robyduck> (quiestionnaire on the CommBlog)
22:02:45 <robyduck> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/Questionnaire
22:03:14 <robyduck> oh, we have also two channels to communicate
22:03:31 <robyduck> ML: mindshare@lists.fedoraproject.org
22:03:40 <robyduck> IRC: #fedora-mindshare
22:04:00 <robyduck> ML is open for subscription to anyone, and public
22:04:21 <robyduck> and obviously: https://pagure.io/mindshare
22:04:29 <jonatoni> thanks for all the explanations robyduck, very helpful
22:04:46 <robyduck> jonatoni: YW
22:05:11 <robyduck> for any questions just write to the ML or join #fedora-mindshare and ask
22:05:22 <robyduck> EOF
22:05:30 <jonatoni> just saw the time :/ we should finish the meeting
22:05:42 <Kohane> ok
22:05:46 <jonatoni> thanks again robyduck
22:06:07 <Kohane> We couldn't discuss about a possible new date/time for EMEA meetings...  :-(
22:06:32 <jonatoni> Kohane will write on ML about this
22:06:36 <jonatoni> we don't have time now
22:06:38 <Kohane> Okay, good.
22:07:04 <jonatoni> #action jonatoni will write on ML to change the EMEA meeting time
22:07:10 <jonatoni> thanks everyone for coming, see you in two weeks :)
22:07:17 <jonatoni> #endmeeting