15:01:16 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
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15:01:21 <rdieter> #meetingname kde-sig
15:01:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig'
15:01:25 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:01:30 <mbriza> hello
15:01:34 <rdieter> hi all, friendly kde-sig meeting, who's present today?
15:01:49 <lupinix> .hello lupinix
15:01:50 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
15:03:10 <tosky> hi
15:03:52 <rdieter> #info rdieter mbriza lupinix tosky present
15:03:58 <rdieter> #chair mbriza lupinix tosky
15:03:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: lupinix mbriza rdieter tosky
15:04:53 * jgrulich is present
15:05:02 <rdieter> #info jgrulich present
15:05:04 <rdieter> hi
15:05:06 <rdieter> #chair jgrulich
15:05:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: jgrulich lupinix mbriza rdieter tosky
15:05:41 <rdieter> #topic agenda
15:05:45 <rdieter> ok, what to discuss today?
15:05:58 <rdieter> tosky mentioned earlier prelim study on default apps
15:06:06 <tosky> yep, I plan to send a better email
15:06:09 <rdieter> I can report on qtwebengine/fesco ticket
15:06:20 <tosky> but I can share few data
15:06:24 * lupinix has nothing special to discuss
15:06:31 <rdieter> definitely need to share updates on qt5/kf5 status , lots going on there
15:06:47 <rdieter> anything else?
15:07:39 <rdieter> ok, let's go
15:07:51 <rdieter> #topic default apps, preliminary data
15:07:53 <rdieter> tosky: ?
15:08:20 <tosky> so, first information: many duplication is coming from tiny apps from PIM, which appears in two categories
15:08:31 <tosky> the TNEF viewer even in 3
15:08:40 <rdieter> fun
15:09:17 <tosky> some cleanup can be done easily; contrary to my previous assertion, removing telepathy will remove two menu entries
15:09:49 <rdieter> <nod>, telepathy is mostly plasma applets afterall, not legacy/desktop apps
15:10:09 <tosky> also, for example, with KWallet supporting old stuff, we can remove KWalletManager4 probably
15:10:30 <than> present
15:10:36 <rdieter> tosky: ah right, since latest kwallet can support kde4 apps now?
15:10:52 <tosky> rdieter: that's what I understood (since two or three versions iirc)
15:11:08 <tosky> other potential targets could be Krfb (the server, not the client), Krusader, Qt5 DBusViewer(!), the games
15:11:11 <rdieter> #info than present
15:11:13 <tosky> maybe KTorren
15:11:15 <rdieter> #chair than
15:11:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: jgrulich lupinix mbriza rdieter than tosky
15:11:15 <tosky> KTorrent*
15:11:27 <lupinix> yes, i also wondered about dbus viewer
15:11:31 <tosky> not sure how to solve the duplication, or if it's worth: it's according the standard
15:11:57 <pino|work> sorry, i'm late
15:12:01 <tosky> also not sure about AMZ Downloader
15:12:02 <rdieter> #info pino|work present
15:12:04 <rdieter> hi
15:12:12 <rdieter> tosky: that's a dep of amarok
15:12:16 <tosky> oh
15:12:34 <rdieter> though not  a hard one, pulls album art from amazon I think
15:12:44 <tosky> probably can be revised
15:13:02 <tosky> also there is one entry which pino|work fixed in upstream (uselesS), the MS Word DOCX Export Filter
15:13:10 <pino|work> ?
15:13:21 <tosky> I think it was you, but I may remember incorrectly
15:13:26 <tosky> so maybe it will go away with a calligra update
15:13:34 <pino|work> what did i do?
15:14:22 <tosky> pino|work: pino|work: https://cgit.kde.org/calligra.git/commit/?h=calligra/3.0&id=fff2ab9771ea6a9a66ba342cd668485f0f177adf
15:14:24 <tosky> aaaanyway, that's it for now, unless you have questions
15:14:39 <tosky> I plan to send a proper email later with a comparison with Workstation
15:14:50 <rdieter> tosky: thanks, good work
15:16:18 <rdieter> #topic qt5-qtwebengine acls
15:17:06 <rdieter> moving on, a little unpleasantness... Kevin_Kofler removed acls again, and we had already agreed to raise this to fesco awhile back, so here we are :(
15:17:14 <rdieter> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1781
15:17:33 <rdieter> please read that over, let me know if there's anything not accurate
15:17:45 <lupinix> we got acls back in meantime? :o
15:17:46 <tosky> it seems complete from my point of view
15:21:09 <lupinix> yes, that's what we agreed on some weeks/months ago
15:21:26 <rdieter> lupinix: apparently the pagure/git migration "accidentally" gave me admin rights... for a brief period, until Kevin noticed and removed me again
15:22:11 <rdieter> and while I had it, dvratil ping'd me to give commit acls, which I did (and that was reverted as well)
15:23:54 <rdieter> ok, moving on...
15:24:01 <rdieter> #topic qt5, kf5 status/updates
15:24:32 <rdieter> As far as kf5 goes, kf5-5.39 in rawhide, kf5-5.38 in f27, kf5-5.38 f26/f25 -testing
15:24:56 <rdieter> dvratil and jgrulich been working on qt5 5.9.2
15:24:57 <jgrulich> rdieter: I see kf5-5.39 in f27-updats-testing
15:25:12 <rdieter> jgrulich: ah, indeed
15:25:32 <jgrulich> rdieter: only me is working on qt 5.9.2, mbriza just did qt5-doc because I wasn't able to generate new documentation because of using old qt5-qttools from f26
15:25:51 <rdieter> <nod>
15:25:55 <jgrulich> anyway, qt 5.9.2 is done in f26/f27/rawhide
15:26:25 <jgrulich> in f27 I just need to rebuild ~5 packages, in f26 I need to rebuild all packages due to updated Qt
15:27:36 <jgrulich> tomorrow we should have Qt 5.9.2 submitted to updates-testing
15:27:43 <rdieter> excellent
15:28:11 <rdieter> for those, make sure autokarma is off.  in particular, I'd like to see the existing kf5 updates in -testing to go stable first
15:28:40 <rdieter> (probably not hard, the qt updates should get more attention, time, testing)
15:28:54 <jgrulich> I agree
15:29:11 <rdieter> *especially* for f26, the qt5 jump from 5.7 to 5.9.x is non-trivial, but worth it
15:30:06 <rdieter> offtopic: kudos to releng/infrastructure for beefy builders (at least x86 ones) that can do qtwebengine in < 30 minutes
15:33:10 <rdieter> moving on...
15:33:14 <rdieter> #topic open discussion
15:33:18 <rdieter> anything else to mention today?
15:33:24 <jgrulich> rdieter: ok, all rebuilds should be done soon, just waiting for arms build, only one missing is kf5-akonadi-server which depends on qt5-qtwebkit
15:33:42 <jgrulich> can you tag it as temp-override and trigger rebuild of kf5-akonadi-server once it is done?
15:33:52 <jgrulich> talking about f27
15:34:43 <rdieter> koji tag-pkg f27-kde <foo>   :)
15:34:57 <rdieter> sure
15:35:08 <jgrulich> or that :)
15:35:17 <jgrulich> I'll definitely use it for f26
15:39:21 <jgrulich> I guess we can end the meeting or at least I'm leaving, enough work for today :)
15:39:42 <rdieter> yep, thanks everyone!
15:39:44 <rdieter> #endmeeting