11:31:43 <pjp> #startmeeting APAC Ambassador's bi-weekly meeting 05 Oct 2017
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11:31:57 <pjp> #meetingname apac
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11:32:09 <pjp> #topic Roll Call
11:32:14 <skamath> .hello2
11:32:15 <zodbot> skamath: skamath 'Sachin S Kamath ' <sskamath96@gmail.com>
11:32:18 <pjp> .hello
11:32:18 <zodbot> pjp: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:32:55 <pjp> #topic -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/277
11:33:02 <pjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/277
11:33:44 <sankarshan> .hello
11:33:44 <zodbot> sankarshan: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:34:09 <skamath> hello needs an argument. hello2 will take your current nick :)
11:34:20 <sankarshan> .hello2
11:34:22 <zodbot> sankarshan: sankarshan 'None' <sankarshan@pobox.com>
11:34:26 <sankarshan> thanks.
11:34:40 <skamath> We need more swag in APAC. It's a +1 for me.
11:34:43 <skamath> np
11:35:08 <skamath> Commented on the ticket
11:35:22 <paragan> .hello pnemade
11:35:23 <zodbot> paragan: pnemade 'Parag Nemade' <pnemade@redhat.com>
11:35:43 <skamath> Hi paragan o/
11:35:50 <paragan> skamath, Hi
11:36:52 <sankarshan> For https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/277 I'd probably suggest that swag is produced keeping in mind not just the current by any 3 projected upcoming events.
11:37:29 <skamath> But I don't think it can't be shipped out of China.
11:37:31 <sankarshan> Doing just for short term requirements would be unwise. Budget permitting, that $ value could be bumped up a bit.
11:38:09 <skamath> I don't see much events happening in China though. Or atleast, the reports.
11:38:09 <sankarshan> Is this request asking for a shipment to China or, talking about negotiations with a local vendor?
11:38:18 <Amita> .hello
11:38:18 <zodbot> Amita: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
11:38:27 <skamath> They are producing it there.
11:38:30 <sankarshan> "deal with vendors for better bulk production price" was not very clear.
11:38:52 <Amita> .hello2
11:38:53 <zodbot> Amita: Sorry, but you don't exist
11:38:58 <Amita> 0_0
11:39:11 <Amita> .hello amsharma
11:39:13 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com>
11:39:16 <skamath> Finally :P
11:39:18 <pjp> #277 is swags for China
11:39:19 <Amita> :P
11:39:21 <sankarshan> We should visit the question later - what is inhibiting more events from happening around China
11:39:23 <skamath> Hi o/
11:40:17 <skamath> sankarshan, There are not many active ambassadors from China : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#China_.286.29
11:41:22 <sankarshan> That data point sort of implies the number of active Ambassadors is directly correlated with events.
11:41:45 <pjp> More events is a different discussion topic IMO, let's first clear USD 100 request for #277
11:42:00 <skamath> It shouldn't be, but I don't really know they aren't active.
11:42:17 <sankarshan> I'd agree. I had suggested that the requestor could have asked for more. $100 for swag to address the upcoming plans would work.
11:42:57 <pjp> Yep, I think $100 for now is reasonable, considering we don't have clear idea about planned furture events
11:43:21 <pjp> Please add your votes(+1/-1) to the ticket
11:43:56 <skamath> If datagrepper is anything to go by, I see only 3 active ambassadors, and I don't see much activity in China
11:44:29 <pjp> Now we can change topic to further discussion,
11:44:47 <pjp> #topic discussion about active ambassadors and future events
11:45:10 <skamath> Yeah, we can always have the discussion on Pagure.
11:45:42 <skamath> pjp, 'active' is a very relative term.
11:46:02 <skamath> There was a recent discussion on the ambassador mailing about who should be considered active.
11:46:08 <sankarshan> :) there's been a bex thread which received much activity around active and such
11:46:21 <pjp> Yes,
11:46:52 <skamath> #link https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/438
11:46:55 <sankarshan> If, for the moment, we keep the "active" bit aside. What are the kinds of events which are happening?
11:47:24 <sankarshan> The underlying question is - whether there are categoies of events and that has been a consistent pattern of presence
11:47:29 <skamath> We had a couple of release parties in India, and FWD events are happening, thanks to Diversity team
11:47:39 <skamath> amsharma++ for the efforts.
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11:48:31 <sankarshan> There are release parties, some events such as NullCon, and FWD centric events - are there usually anything else?
11:48:43 <skamath> I'm aware only about the events happening in India :(
11:49:01 <skamath> I don't think there is much happening in apac tbh
11:49:24 <skamath> sankarshan, that's pretty much it.
11:49:53 <skamath> Nullcon is ~5months away. Are we planning to setup a stall?
11:49:57 <sankarshan> Since I don't see a wider APAC presence today, let's talk specifically of India then? I see Sumantro doing QA related outreach, but I don't think those get fed into "events by Ambassadors" etc
11:50:15 <pjp> In the past we've  had presence at  -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2016?rd=FAD:PhnomPenh_2014/events
11:50:23 <skamath> 2014 :P
11:50:37 <pjp> skamath: Yeah, that's an old list, but the events are recurring,
11:50:48 <sankarshan> In essence, goal oriented FADs are not being planned now, is that correct?
11:51:19 <skamath> sankarshan, That's correct. Pravin was planning to organize a i18n FAD in Pune soon.
11:51:50 <skamath> I am organizing a Bootstrap event in TN next month.
11:52:17 <sankarshan> I don't know if it would work, but it would be worthwhile to use an email to seek active interest in such FADs. Given the budget request trends from past, a ceiling value can be estimated as well.
11:52:37 <sankarshan> Bootstrap = the .js framework or, Bootstrap = getting familiar with Fedora? :)
11:52:47 <sankarshan> Sorry, namespace collisions are heavy these days
11:52:52 <skamath> sankarshan, getting familiar with Fedora.
11:52:53 <skamath> :P
11:52:57 <skamath> yeah, makes sense.
11:53:34 <skamath> We also have a badge coming up for "Bootstrapped" : https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/409
11:53:41 * sumantrom[m] is here and is reading the logs
11:54:00 <sankarshan> oh hey sumantrom[m]
11:54:00 * skamath waves to sumantrom[m] to add one more message to the log
11:54:46 <pjp> sumantrom[m]: Hi,
11:54:46 <sumantrom[m]> Hi sankarshan :)
11:54:47 <sumantrom[m]> O/ skamath
11:54:55 <sumantrom[m]> Hi pjp
11:56:28 <sankarshan> Ok. So, it seems we exhausted the FAD conversation
11:56:29 <sumantrom[m]> We need a fedorator in APAC and India to be precise, I will file a ticket and will request people to vote on it :)
11:56:47 <sankarshan> There's an OpenSource India (I think I got the name right) happening this month at BLR
11:56:58 <skamath> sankarshan, I thought it was over.
11:57:04 <sankarshan> It was?
11:57:23 <sankarshan> I recollect it was next week. But I can't be sure.
11:57:26 <skamath> Oh, it's on 13th
11:57:29 <skamath> My bad.
11:57:39 * skamath confused it with IndiaHacks
11:58:01 <sankarshan> Joerg Simon / kital was to visit as a speaker. I was wondering if BLR weather permits a meetup outside of the event
11:58:06 <pjp> PyCon India 2017 happens early next month
11:58:11 <sankarshan> And that too
11:58:20 <skamath> sankarshan, re : FAD. +1 definitely. India ML seems like a good place to start the thread.
11:58:24 <sankarshan> That is NCR/Delhi. Forget specifically where
11:59:17 <sankarshan> It would be perhaps worth a shot to start a PyCon India centric thread as well. In terms of planning whatever (little) can be done
11:59:18 * pjp in conversation with PyCon organisers for Fedora booth
11:59:41 <sankarshan> Excellent
11:59:41 <skamath> pjp++ That sounds awesome
12:02:27 <skamath> sumantrom[m], I thought there was a Fedorator already. No?
12:02:58 <skamath> Atleast 1 Fedorator should have come to APAC from Flock.
12:04:13 <sankarshan> Also, a tangent - is there a ready list of institutes where there has been at least one talk/demo about Fedora related topics? Again, this is limited to India.
12:04:33 <skamath> I can start a wiki for that and ask people to fill it up.
12:04:52 <sumantrom[m]> skamath: no , we don't have one.
12:05:33 <skamath> sumantrom[m], yeah. There are reports lying around in CommBlog about events. I can put in some efforts this week or the next and spin up a nice wiki page for that
12:06:07 <sumantrom[m]> Sankarshan yes there is a list of events on commblog
12:07:48 <sumantrom[m]> skamath: yes that will be awesome
12:08:31 <skamath> sumantrom[m], did we not get any fedorators from flock?
12:08:34 <skamath> we = apac
12:09:03 <sumantrom[m]> Nopes it's in Brno we were to get it shipped
12:09:28 <sankarshan> sumantrom[m],  extrapolating from that - is there a way to figure out whether there is a substantial spread of expertise and participation across various topics in Fedora. In other words, hypothetically, no one in India contributes to Atomic (say) ...
12:10:23 <skamath> sumantrom[m], Ah okay. I could have carried it if someone had tole me about it. Had loads of space in my bag.
12:10:37 <skamath> s/tole/told
12:11:18 <skamath> sankarshan, Among the ambassadors or generally?
12:11:29 <sankarshan> I was asking in general.
12:11:38 <skamath> Hmm, if we had a list of people from India, we could look up the FAS groups.
12:11:47 <sankarshan> I fear we have digressed from the topic Prasad had put up. :/
12:12:13 <sumantrom[m]> sankarshan: yes it would be great to have e the fas and groups they have joined and the mine further to their contributions
12:12:49 <pjp> <pjp> #topic discussion about active ambassadors and future events
12:12:53 <skamath> I know it's not very efficient method of finding out what each does, but that's the best bet.
12:13:25 <skamath> Back to topic now :3 Sorry pjp
12:13:56 <skamath> As sankarshan said, let's start a thread on the India ML.
12:16:13 <pjp> Note: 15 mins to go
12:17:14 <skamath> Anything else folks? :)
12:18:01 <sankarshan> Quick question - is anything planned around that OpenSource India Days BLR event?
12:18:10 <skamath> We cannot really talk about any other region atm. We can open a tracker ticket on Pagure for this and have the discussion there.
12:18:19 <skamath> sankarshan, I don't think anything is planned so far.
12:18:35 <sankarshan> sumantrom[m],  is there a way to plan an off-event meetup at least?
12:18:54 <skamath> Is it too late to ask for a Fedora stall?
12:19:25 <sankarshan> There's really no point having a Fedora stall there. It has over the years become mostly an enterprise open source focus event
12:19:36 <skamath> Oh :/
12:20:09 <sankarshan> Alright. I'll have to sneak out of the room. This is a nice meeting slot. Thank you! Whoever fixed this.
12:20:39 <skamath> We voted for it ;)
12:24:03 * sankarshan exit left
12:25:37 <pjp> Note: 5 mins to go
12:25:52 <pjp> skamath: sumantrom[m] Anything else on your mind?
12:26:04 <skamath> Nothing from me.
12:26:17 <skamath> sumantrom[m], Anything about OSI meetup?
12:26:34 <Amita> I did FWD in Banglore and Pune
12:26:52 <Amita> Banglore FWD report - https://whatamithinks.wordpress.com/2017/09/17/fedora-women-day-bangalore/
12:27:03 <Amita> Pune FWD event report is pending on me
12:27:18 <pjp> Amita: It'll be good to send it to -india list
12:27:45 <Amita> pjp, once done with Pune one , will send both together
12:27:55 <pjp> Okay
12:29:05 <pjp> Okay, let's take further discussion on the mailing list please?
12:29:14 <skamath> +1
12:29:20 <pjp> Going...1
12:29:23 <Amita> 2
12:29:29 <Amita> 2.1
12:29:46 <pjp> Going...2
12:30:01 <pjp> #endmeeting