21:00:05 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:00:08 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:00:10 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:00:12 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:13 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:02:01 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:02:02 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:02:08 <ryanlerch> morning stickster!
21:02:13 <stickster> #chair ryanlerch jwf jwf|matrix
21:02:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf jwf|matrix ryanlerch stickster
21:02:20 <stickster> hola ryanlerch
21:02:48 <ryanlerch> good evening stickster!
21:02:54 <ryanlerch> how was your day?
21:03:04 <stickster> ryanlerch: looooooong but I kicked a lot of todo butt :-)
21:04:08 <stickster> ryanlerch: with no one else here, we're going to buzz through this
21:04:11 <stickster> #topic Last week stats
21:04:36 <stickster> #info ~50.2K views, this is definitely getting back down into not-so-good territory compared to > 60K the week before
21:05:07 <ryanlerch> :(
21:05:25 <stickster> #info However, August 2017 was one of the 5 best months in the last 2.5 years :-)
21:05:44 <ryanlerch> 50K is still higher than what we were averaging eariler in the year
21:05:53 <stickster> September is on track right now for only 200-220K views, we need to get that fixed
21:05:54 <ryanlerch> 60K is of course better ;)
21:06:07 <stickster> it is... and we will :-)
21:06:17 <stickster> OK, so with that in mind...
21:06:24 <stickster> #topic Interjected non-agenda news
21:06:43 <stickster> #info stickster published a PSA on DNF automatic at the behest of mattdm earlier today, and that should get plenty of views
21:07:07 <stickster> sorry for the unilateral move, but there wasn't time to consult everyone and I didn't think anyone would mind, without much on the schedule yet ;-)
21:07:21 <ryanlerch> retroactive +1 from me FWIW
21:07:33 <stickster> lol
21:07:39 <stickster> thank you ryanlerch!
21:07:44 <stickster> OK, back to agenda
21:07:57 <ryanlerch> stickester especially since it has rolling in the title.
21:08:18 <stickster> haha
21:08:22 <ryanlerch> might get a few more views for that;)
21:08:44 <stickster> OMG you're right! I didn't think of that. Also, I punned the word "aptly" in it, who knows if that could help too ;-D
21:09:02 <stickster> #topic Drafts
21:09:16 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post
21:09:26 <stickster> #info --- State of Fedora 2017 ---
21:09:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18563&preview=true
21:10:06 <stickster> hmm, this looks unfinished by jwf -- I think we should pass it by for now. Like, it literally cuts off midsentence
21:10:18 <ryanlerch> +1
21:10:29 <stickster> #agreed defer this for the moment, jwf still working on it
21:10:37 <stickster> #topic Pitches
21:10:43 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
21:11:13 <stickster> #info --- 9 reasons to use Modules for containers ---
21:11:19 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18631&preview=true
21:11:39 <stickster> We are totally swimming in pitches at the moment, this is a *GOOD* thing
21:12:04 * stickster is +1 already on this and on the list... ryanlerch, what say you?
21:12:18 <ryanlerch> yeah this one is solid +1 from me
21:12:22 <ryanlerch> but
21:13:09 <ryanlerch> we should include maybe a bit more boilerplate / intro at the top to include defs of Module and Containers -- maybe with links to other magazine posts / resources?
21:13:22 <ryanlerch> but a big +1 from me
21:13:44 <stickster> ryanlerch: that would make sense. can you reply to ttomecek on list to ask for that? I think I replied earlier to tell him we'd review the pitch tonight
21:14:24 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1
21:14:27 <stickster> #action ryanlerch reply to list to ask ttomecek to do a brief intro paragraph that helps people understand module vs. a container image like Docker
21:14:53 <stickster> #info --- kernel regression tests ---
21:14:55 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18607&preview=true
21:15:30 <stickster> I went too fast here
21:15:32 <stickster> #undo
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21:15:33 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 21:14:53 : --- kernel regression tests ---
21:16:08 <stickster> #agreed APPROVED the modules post
21:16:16 <stickster> now we need to figure out who's got the editing ball
21:16:44 <stickster> ryanlerch: Do you think you could take on this one? I have a couple commitments in the pitches to come already and will catch up with you on TODOs in a few minutes :-)
21:16:59 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can edit this one, if it is for later in the week
21:17:13 <stickster> ryanlerch: how about we make this for Monday next
21:17:47 <stickster> or do you mean later next week, we can do that too
21:18:01 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah maybe friday?
21:18:11 <stickster> certainly... sorry, didn't mean to be pushy if that's how it came off
21:18:23 <ryanlerch> just with getting feedback on this one for an intro, it prolly wont be ready for the 18th
21:18:35 <ryanlerch> timezones and all
21:18:36 <stickster> yeah, agreed, so let's say Fri 22nd
21:18:51 <stickster> #action ryanlerch edit and do image for modules article, publish Fri Sep 22
21:19:01 <stickster> #info --- kernel regression tests ---
21:19:06 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18607&preview=true
21:19:47 <ryanlerch> stickster: this one is solid. i can edit this one and do a featured image for it for monday
21:19:53 <stickster> this is one by our own labbott... I already told her at flock that I would gladly edit this and get it out there, could do that
21:20:19 <stickster> haha, now we thumb wrestle for it
21:21:09 <stickster> ryanlerch: how about I do this one, so I keep up with you
21:21:39 * stickster feels guilty for being out all last week
21:21:42 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1
21:21:53 <stickster> #agreed APPROVED
21:21:54 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can do the image if that helps
21:22:03 <stickster> ryanlerch: sure, you always do the best ones
21:22:12 <ryanlerch> awwww shucks
21:22:14 <stickster> #action ryanlerch do a featured image before Sunday night
21:22:20 <ryanlerch> your editing is better
21:22:28 <stickster> :-P
21:22:36 <stickster> #action stickster edit article before Sunday night and push out Mon Sep 18
21:22:51 <stickster> #info --- checking file space usage ---
21:22:55 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18603&preview=true
21:23:47 <stickster> This is an actual pitch, not a finished article, which is just fine since that's what our queue is now... I think I +1'd this on list but would be good to confirm scope here, because it wasn't fully outlined on list
21:24:18 <ryanlerch> this is a +1 from me -- but i agree
21:24:29 <ryanlerch> it def needs to be scoped in the title a little better
21:24:47 <ryanlerch> since there are aslo good GUI tools like baobab to do similar things
21:25:12 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah, like "Check disk space usage via the command line"
21:25:19 <stickster> s/via/at/
21:25:22 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 ship it
21:26:16 <stickster> #agreed APPROVED, with title change (done)
21:26:42 <stickster> #action stickster let Ashutosh know to go ahead and write the article
21:26:59 <ryanlerch> wooo!
21:27:06 <stickster> #info --- troubleshooting docker containers ---
21:27:08 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18588&preview=true
21:27:38 <stickster> This one I responded to on list -- unfortunately the contributor wrote a whole thing without pitching firstr
21:28:03 <stickster> it needs work, but it *is* a good idea and could be a good article! So I passed on some feedback there, cc'd the author, and am waiting to hear back about it
21:28:14 <stickster> ^ all the above is just IMHO
21:33:58 <stickster> #info there appear to be several problems with the content, on closer inspection
21:34:12 <stickster> #action stickster to respond to list with request to withdraw & rewrite
21:34:18 <stickster> moving on ... :-(
21:34:32 <stickster> #info --- how to write for the Magazine ---
21:34:35 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18569&preview=true
21:34:58 <stickster> this is Amita's article she did during the Flock session. So I'm generally +1 on the pitch right away. :-)
21:35:41 <ryanlerch> =1 fro me
21:35:43 <ryanlerch> +1
21:36:02 <stickster> But unfortunately she duplicated some content from our other page in a way that makes me want to slightly rewrite the first section for two reasons... (1) so this article stays relevant even if our process changes, by using a link instead; (2) adds more pageviews with the internal link
21:36:10 <stickster> #agreed APPROVED
21:36:20 <ryanlerch> not a fan of including stats in there, but that is a personal prefernece
21:37:02 <stickster> agreed -- I would rather just state something like "now getting several 100K views per month
21:37:02 <ryanlerch> not a big deal
21:37:37 <stickster> another issue -- those links won't work for people reading the article
21:37:47 <stickster> but that's fine, can knock the hyperlinks out
21:38:06 <stickster> I'll be happy to take the editing duties here
21:38:15 <ryanlerch> stickster: woo!
21:38:56 <stickster> #action stickster take editing duty on 'howto' post, publish Wed Sep 20
21:39:11 <stickster> #action stickster do a featured image for 'howto' post as well
21:39:31 <stickster> #info --- new projects in copr ---
21:39:34 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18527&preview=true
21:40:09 <stickster> I like this one a lot but would like to retitle it "4 new projects in COPR" to listicle-ize it
21:40:45 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 from me too!
21:40:55 <stickster> #agreed APPROVED with name change
21:41:22 <stickster> ryanlerch: Do you think you can do an image for this today? If so, I'll edit it quickly after meeting and we can push later (i.e. Fri Sep 15)
21:41:56 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can whip something up wck this moring!
21:42:15 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can push the button at 0800 too
21:42:24 <stickster> brilliant, let's do that then
21:42:33 <stickster> #action ryanlerch do image for COPR article today
21:42:43 <stickster> #action stickster finish editing COPR article today and ready for push at 0800 UTC
21:43:18 <ryanlerch> stickster: are you able to just ping the list when you are done editing?
21:43:31 <ryanlerch> so i know its right to publish from your point of view?
21:45:19 <stickster> ryanlerch: sure!
21:45:26 <stickster> 1 more to hit here
21:45:39 <stickster> I think we didn't hit the MiB/MB post before, did we?
21:46:04 * stickster can't recall -- this is x3mboy[m] who pitched this article
21:46:12 <ryanlerch> hmmm, cant reacll either
21:47:20 <stickster> ryanlerch: we approved pitch back in 2017-Aug-03 meeting, so this should probably move to draft and sit there
21:47:22 <ryanlerch> this one is pretty close to the line of not really having much to do with Fedora
21:47:36 <stickster> ryanlerch: right, we approved it with the condition of building a Fedora angle into it
21:47:44 <ryanlerch> ah, thats right!
21:48:09 <stickster> ryanlerch: I would say, exit the article without saving and then quick-edit the status to Draft
21:48:21 <stickster> so it doesn't look like it's been recently edited and confuse us next week
21:48:40 * stickster not sure that works as intended but let's find out ;-D
21:49:15 <ryanlerch> stickster: done
21:49:27 <ryanlerch> sorry, didnt meant to steal the lock on that one
21:49:40 <stickster> Ha, cool! It looks like it didn't mark it as modified
21:49:57 <stickster> OK, that's everything we need to get through today
21:50:04 <stickster> #topic Publishing roundup
21:51:53 <stickster> #proposed #agreed Fri Sep 15: 4 new projects in COPR (image: Ryan, edit: Paul) ; Mon Sep 18: kernel regression (image: Ryan, edit: Paul) ; Wed Sep 20: howto write for us (image: Paul, edit: Paul) ; Fri Sep 22: 9 cool things about modules (image: Ryan, edit: Ryan)
21:52:05 <stickster> sound good ryanlerch ^ ?
21:52:14 <ryanlerch> stickster: awesome!
21:52:18 <stickster> #agreed Fri Sep 15: 4 new projects in COPR (image: Ryan, edit: Paul) ; Mon Sep 18: kernel regression (image: Ryan, edit: Paul) ; Wed Sep 20: howto write for us (image: Paul, edit: Paul) ; Fri Sep 22: 9 cool things about modules (image: Ryan, edit: Ryan)
21:52:24 <ryanlerch> like the way you formatted that too
21:52:25 <stickster> OK, let's go forth and KICK ASS
21:52:47 <stickster> hopefully next week jwf|matrix will be out of the woods and back with us
21:52:55 <stickster> thanks for being here ryanlerch!
21:52:56 <ryanlerch> \o/
21:52:58 <stickster> #endmeeting