20:00:00 <nmilosev> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2017-08-16
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20:00:06 <nmilosev> #meetingname emea_ambassadors
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20:00:11 <nmilosev> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Please note the meeting protocol is in order: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol - Use ‘!’ to ask for permission to speak, or ‘?’ to ask a question. End with ‘eof’.
20:00:16 <nmilosev> #topic Roll Call
20:00:21 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:00:22 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:00:35 <lupinix> .fas lupinix
20:00:37 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
20:00:39 <lupinix> good evening :)
20:01:05 <nmilosev> hey :)
20:01:41 <nmilosev> Let's wait a few more minutes for others to show up.
20:01:44 <robyduck> .hello2
20:01:57 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
20:01:59 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
20:02:03 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
20:02:15 <nmilosev> hey robyduck x2 :)
20:02:15 <haghighi> Hi I am an ongoing ambassador from Iran, robyduck is my mentor and I would like to attend the meeting today.  :)
20:02:16 <robyduck> doh
20:02:32 <nmilosev> hello haghighi! Can you introduce yourself?
20:02:34 <bt0> awesome
20:02:37 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:02:37 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:02:39 * jwf is sort of around :)
20:02:42 <robyduck> hi haghighi, nice to have you around ;)
20:03:00 <jwf> haghighi: Hello, and welcome! :)
20:03:08 <haghighi> robyduck: thanks :)
20:03:15 <bt0> haghighi++
20:03:15 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for haghighi changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:03:20 <lupinix> haghighi: you're welcome :)
20:03:38 <jwf> .hello jflory7
20:03:39 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:04:18 <rsc> .hello robert
20:04:20 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:05:11 <haghighi> Thank you guys, nice to meet you :)
20:05:31 <robyduck> haghighi: if you want you can make a short introduction of yourself, just 1-2 lines ;) nmilosev asked you.
20:06:10 <haghighi> ow, sorry nmilosev
20:06:49 <nmilosev> no worries, it is a "tradition" to make a short introduction if you are on your first meeting :)
20:06:58 <haghighi> nmilosev: I'm a Network Security Engineer, C and Python developer from Iran
20:07:25 <jwf> haghighi: What's your favorite thing about Fedora? :)
20:07:34 <haghighi> I started using GNU/Linux by installing Red Hat Linux in 2002, and now using Fedora on my Laptop
20:08:13 <nmilosev> Do you use Fedora Security Lab? :)
20:08:38 <haghighi> jwf: More close to GNU and being free, being up to date and testing new technologies
20:09:02 <lupinix> nice :)
20:09:42 <haghighi> ‎nmilosev‎: No, currently in my profession, I don't need Sec. Lab., but maybe use that for my next project :)
20:09:54 <jwf> haghighi: Awesome. :) Well, happy to have you here!
20:10:04 <nmilosev> Great! Welcome once again, and don't hesitate to ask around. :)
20:10:14 <nmilosev> #topic Announcements
20:10:19 <nmilosev> #info A proposal: Ambassadors and Fedora strategy
20:10:19 <nmilosev> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/ambassadors-fedora-strategy/
20:10:25 <nmilosev> #info Flock 2017 Schedule
20:10:25 <nmilosev> #link https://flock2017.sched.com/
20:10:30 <nmilosev> #info LXQt Test Day Tomorrow
20:10:30 <nmilosev> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/lxqt-test-day-2017-08-17/
20:10:37 <nmilosev> Anyone else have any announcements?
20:10:52 <robyduck> yes me
20:10:57 <Southern_Gentlem> *** F26-20170815 updated lives available: http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2  Built by the Fedora Respin Sig more info #fedora-respins  ***
20:10:59 <haghighi> Thanks again :)
20:11:11 <nmilosev> Thanks Southern_Gentlem! :)
20:11:15 <nmilosev> robyduck, go ahead please
20:11:28 <robyduck> FAmSCo and FESCo elections are still in progress, second round!
20:11:49 <nmilosev> Shall we add it to minutes?
20:11:59 <robyduck> All who wants to participate need to vote (or revote), as the first round has been cancelled
20:12:24 <nmilosev> Ah I got it, one second.
20:12:37 <nmilosev> #info Fedora August 2017 election change
20:12:41 <nmilosev> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-august-2017-election-change/
20:12:44 <robyduck> till AUgust 21th 23:59 UTC
20:12:56 <nmilosev> Thanks, missed that one somehow, sorry!
20:13:05 <Rathann> good evening, sorry for being late
20:13:11 <Rathann> .hello rathann
20:13:12 <zodbot> Rathann: rathann 'Dominik Mierzejewski' <dominik@greysector.net>
20:13:24 * nmilosev o/ Rathann
20:13:24 <jwf> vote++
20:13:33 <nmilosev> Any other announcements?
20:13:44 * jwf waves to Rathann
20:13:51 * Rathann waves back
20:14:01 * nb notes I am running for FAmSCo and would appreciate everyone's support :)
20:14:14 <jwf> Oh, I have one
20:14:37 <nmilosev> jwf, yes please
20:14:53 <jwf> #info === "Organizing a Fedora Women Day 2017 event" ===
20:14:59 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/organizing-fedora-women-day-2017/
20:15:54 <nmilosev> Thanks for the help :)
20:15:55 <jwf> #info The Fedora Diversity team is looking to work with Ambassadors on organizing Fedora Women Day events this September. To organize an event, please submit have a proposal to the Diversity Team before August 20th for budget planning. See more info and details in the Community Blog post.
20:15:56 <jwf> <eof>
20:16:09 <nmilosev> jwf++
20:16:09 <zodbot> nmilosev: Karma for jflory7 changed to 16 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:16:12 * jwf waves to nb :)
20:16:20 <nmilosev> #topic Requests
20:16:25 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issues
20:16:26 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-budget
20:16:26 <nmilosev> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org/budget/FY18/emea.html
20:16:30 <nmilosev> #info Ticket 27 - Production of English Fedora User Handbooks
20:16:36 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/27
20:16:41 <nmilosev> Please review the ticket
20:16:52 <robyduck> nmilosev: you just posted the link to it, but FAmSCo recommends to all ambassadors to read the blog post of our FPL
20:16:54 <robyduck> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/ambassadors-fedora-strategy/
20:16:58 <robyduck> ops, late
20:17:36 <nmilosev> Ah, well, it's the first link, so hopefully everyone will see it
20:18:35 <mitzie> I'm +1, actually I have talked with sesivany if we need anything regarding swag
20:18:47 <nmilosev> +1 for the handbook
20:18:56 <lupinix> +1
20:20:09 <jwf> I think the handbook is a strong appeal for the Workstation, and seems like the Czech version is already useful. Saw them at DevConf and they looked like a nice deliverable item to bring, instead of DVD media. :)
20:20:12 <jwf> +1 from me
20:20:18 <robyduck> +1
20:20:39 <nmilosev> #agreed Ticket 27 Approved
20:20:49 <nmilosev> Thanks everyone, can't wait for these ones to ship
20:21:05 * jwf hopes to get a few in NA
20:21:11 <nmilosev> Hopefully we can translate them to other languages
20:21:20 <nmilosev> #info Ticket 28 - Parts for 4-5 more "Fedorators" for EMEA
20:21:24 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/28
20:21:30 <robyduck> jwf: with NA budget, sure :P
20:21:56 <mitzie> haha :)
20:22:01 <jwf> robyduck: Yeah, I mean to get a few handbooks generally. :P
20:22:05 <jwf> They're nice deliverables
20:22:08 <robyduck> lol
20:22:13 <robyduck> agree
20:22:31 <nmilosev> About the Fedorator, there is a nice component breakdown in the comments
20:22:38 <nmilosev> But I don't see a case cost?
20:23:01 <jwf> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Stp7ir4YWy1nxBItFLU8QJQOfZ8qC9QhMrX8nRLFGQs/edit#gid=0
20:23:01 <mitzie> It's about 130$ for each
20:23:20 <lupinix> i really like the idea @Fedorator much better than making DVDs again
20:23:51 <mitzie> I talked with @sangui and we can build 5, if we approve the budget
20:23:52 <nmilosev> Wow, the screen costs more than the raspi
20:24:03 <mitzie> So we can have enough for every region in EMEA
20:24:27 <robyduck> which regions?
20:24:56 <mitzie> *active communities, sorry
20:26:08 <jwf> So, the final ask is $550?
20:27:01 <lupinix> i think so
20:27:19 <mitzie> nmilosev: I know, I talked to sangui and he told me that the performance is better with the more expensive one, so he preffers to go with these
20:27:25 <robyduck> if the single cost is 130$, building 5 pieces is 650$
20:27:32 <mitzie> Actually 550$ is for 4 unites
20:27:59 <lupinix> well, how many do we need?
20:28:02 <mitzie> robyduck: yes
20:28:25 <mitzie> I would prefer to build 5 on our own, tbh
20:28:34 <jwf> Worth looking at:
20:28:36 <jwf> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org/budget/FY18/emea.html#q2-budget-report
20:28:43 <jwf> My understanding is that Q2 ends in August
20:28:49 <robyduck> I would not spend too much on this immediately, we might try with 3 pieces and then, if they have success, build other ones. But we can also start with 4 fedorators
20:29:14 <robyduck> yes, Q2 ends in August
20:29:32 <jwf> And there's $1000 USD left?
20:29:33 <mitzie> It's a good opportunity to equip our communities, plus I don't know when we could build one again, because we need a 3D printer
20:29:37 <jwf> Or is it $2000 USD?
20:30:00 <jwf> I'm having a hard time parsing the table
20:30:11 <robyduck> jwf: the budget has been set for the whole year now
20:30:22 <mitzie> No, actually we have ~10k in our reserves
20:30:30 <jwf> robyduck: Yes, I know, I mean I'm confused about how much is available for the rest of this quarter by the current allocation
20:30:41 <jwf> It seems like $1035 USD is leftover for this quarter
20:30:53 <mitzie> Sorry, ~$6k
20:31:06 <jwf> I just want to make sure that I'm reading the table right before I make a final decision
20:31:19 <robyduck> well, we spent 8$ for now?
20:31:22 <robyduck> mitzie: ^
20:31:33 <jwf> robyduck: Actually $8, but see the other costs for FRoSCon and release parties
20:31:35 <lupinix> jwf: yes, so i would approve 5 pieces as Q2 is almost over
20:31:45 <jwf> Only $8 is actually spent, but there is nearly a thousand that is planned to be spent
20:31:49 <jwf> This is my understanding
20:31:55 <lupinix> same for me
20:32:07 <robyduck> but even if we go over that, we don't have so much for the rest of the year, normally, to pay for
20:32:22 <mitzie> We are given $11.000, and so far we have spent 5,3k, including our expenses in Q2
20:32:51 <nmilosev> Are we also considering distribution (how will active communities actually get the devices)? Shipping is expensive
20:32:58 <mitzie> We can keep the remaining money for the next quarter, but I would say we have enough already
20:33:19 <mitzie> nmilosev: Since they will be assembled in Flock, we can take it back ourselves
20:33:44 <nmilosev> mitzie, that's a good plan, but because Flock is in USA this time, many people won't be there (myself included)
20:33:48 <robyduck> if the plan is to build them at FLOCK we can give them directly to the ambassadors present at flock (of the communities we identify would need it)
20:34:00 <robyduck> mitzie: ha, yes
20:34:01 <jwf> So, if EMEA votes to approve $550 for the production of the Fedorators, it would leave $685 leftover for the quarter, which seems like it could be used for a busier part of the year.
20:34:06 <mitzie> (about the budget): And also we will receive more money when the quarter begins
20:34:35 <mitzie> robyduck: Yes, that's the whole point :)
20:35:01 <jwf> Here's my thinking of this, curious what you all will think–
20:35:23 <mitzie> But still, if we have some money left at the end of the quarter, they will be moved to our "reserves"
20:36:13 <lupinix> so will we have 550$ (4 pieces) or 650$ (5 pieces) now?
20:36:17 <robyduck> jwf: we are fine with the budget, not sure why you ask always about it
20:36:21 * lupinix would prefer 5
20:36:30 <mitzie> lupinix: right
20:36:52 <jwf> Given the quarter is nearly over and that we have the opportunity to combine this all into Flock to save on other costs, I think it would be an exciting experiment for us to commit to by producing four more of the Fedorators than the original number. A lot of areas in NA and EMEA are struggling to find other ways than DVD media to bring to events, and while some places might need them more, we are looking for something better. The Fedorator seems
20:36:52 <jwf> like a strategic item to help us save costs in the long run on media production. I think it makes sense to commit to this ticket as a long-term strategy for how we're attending events and making Fedora accessible.
20:37:00 <jwf> Not mention, I think it will be a cool conversation starter
20:37:35 <lupinix> jwf: exactly :)
20:37:41 <jwf> robyduck: I like to know the full context before giving a +1 or -1 on something. :)
20:37:51 <nb> jwf, are we able to vote if we are not in EMEA?
20:37:57 <nb> 1 v
20:38:00 <nb> oops
20:38:23 <robyduck> jwf: you are not in EMEA
20:38:33 <robyduck> ops, today I am slow
20:38:44 <nb> jwf, I would like to see NA produce at least one
20:38:51 <nmilosev> if jwf is not allowed to vote (why??) we have to vote on #27 again
20:38:52 <nb> we might have to approve budget via ticket
20:38:59 <nb> nmilosev, because jwf is not EMEA ambassador?
20:39:23 <mitzie> But the point is that every active community will get one.. I think that 8 are too much, plus we will receive max 2 during the workshop
20:39:44 <jwf> robyduck: True, not anymore
20:40:12 <mitzie> They plan to assemble 6-7 during the workshop and then give them away
20:40:27 <robyduck> mitzie: 6-7 is optimistic I guess :)
20:40:28 <nmilosev> We still don't know the impact of the Fedorator, because it hasn't been used. So it could be very popular on events, but we just don't know yet. Thing is, we won't know if we don't make them. For that reason I'm voting +1
20:41:43 <robyduck> I am also +1, but for max 4 pieces. Let's see how its impact is, and then eventually make more
20:42:11 <nb> mitzie, are they making some anyway? or do the regions have to pay for all of them?
20:42:14 * nb hopes NA gets one
20:42:17 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
20:42:19 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
20:42:19 <robyduck> people will still need to bring a USB key, so personally I think the handbook might have a better impact at events
20:42:29 <nb> robyduck, true
20:42:31 <mitzie> The regions won't pay for those
20:42:34 <nb> mitzie, oh ok
20:42:35 <lupinix> so can we have some concrete agreement on what we vote now?
20:42:53 <lupinix> how many/ how much budget
20:43:52 <nmilosev> we are voting for the ticket, so 4 pieces or 550 USD
20:43:52 <jwf> I think that this is a fair ask: [15:27:32] <mitzie> Actually 550$ is for 4 unites
20:44:09 <nmilosev> So far we have +2
20:44:13 <nmilosev> Please vote
20:44:18 <robyduck> yes, then I am +1
20:44:30 <lupinix> +1
20:44:37 <jwf> Hmm, does my vote carry weight as a former EMEA Ambassador?
20:44:52 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:44:53 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:44:53 <mitzie> Actually for ~130$ more and because we will have ~4k at the end of the quarter , I'm +1 for 5
20:44:55 * giannisk waves
20:44:59 <nmilosev> jwf, I would argue yes (you are an ambassador still)
20:45:20 <lupinix> hi giannisk :)
20:45:35 <nmilosev> So far we have +4 on #28
20:45:43 <jwf> If I hadn't spent a significant amount of time in EMEA, I wouldn't feel comfortable voting, but if nobody has an issue with it, I am also +1 to $550 for four units
20:45:53 <mitzie> giannisk: Actually the question is wether to produce 4 or 5 Fedorators, for 550$ or 670$
20:46:06 <giannisk> Who gets to keep the Fedorators?
20:46:17 <b10n1k> i dont think I can vote I was late and I have not followed the conversation. sorry
20:46:32 <mitzie> We will distribute them to the active communities in EMEA
20:46:57 <nmilosev> mitzie, I still believe distribution is going to be difficult, because they are fragile electronics
20:47:05 <mitzie> we will also get one or two after the workshop, regardless of what we choose now. (although it's most likely to get 1)
20:47:10 <nmilosev> Only way, is who gets them, keeps them for good
20:47:21 <giannisk> If there are funds available, we can go for 5 to serve as many EMEA communities as possible
20:47:30 <giannisk> The only thing that concerns me is selection criteria
20:47:53 <mitzie> nmilosev: FOSDEM is upon us, where most of us will meet again
20:48:01 <jwf> (1) Each Fedorator is appx. $130 each; (2) current ask is $550 for four units; (3) current unallocated budget for this quarter is $1035 USD; (4) "every active community" is planned to get one, but it's not more concrete than that
20:48:05 <giannisk> On which criteria does X community receive the Fedorator and Y community does not?
20:48:15 <lupinix> well, how many "active communities" do we have?
20:48:17 <jwf> b10n1k: ^^
20:48:35 <giannisk> lupinix: That's debatable, it means how we perceive "active"
20:48:40 <nmilosev> giannisk, on the criteria on who is available to pick one up on Flock/FOSDEM?
20:48:42 <giannisk> s/means/depends on
20:49:00 <b10n1k> jwf: thanks
20:49:18 <giannisk> nmilosev: But that wouldn't be fair, people from "active" communities might not be able to attend Flock/FOSDEM
20:49:27 <lupinix> yes
20:49:29 <nmilosev> I agree
20:49:46 <giannisk> We can vote right now to allocate the budget
20:49:54 <nmilosev> We can think about distribution later, let's just vote on the ticket
20:50:02 <giannisk> But we should definitely define the distribution criteria as well
20:50:08 <nb> giannisk, nmilosev i think that is a good idea
20:50:08 <giannisk> nmilosev: +1
20:50:09 <jwf> giannisk / nmilosev: +1, I think we can figure out these logistics.
20:50:17 <nmilosev> We have +5 already, but the log will be messy, maybe a revote?
20:50:20 <nmilosev> Or no need?
20:50:24 <mitzie> giannisk: One of us can take the extra one with him and get reimbursed to ship it somewhere else
20:50:40 <jwf> I think all five votes are for four Fedorators produced at a total of $550 USD
20:50:43 <lupinix> we have +5 on 4 pieces 550$ now
20:50:49 <nmilosev> Yes, so no revote?
20:51:00 <giannisk> How many votes for 5 pieces?
20:51:14 * giannisk gave a vote for 5 pieces, if the budget allows for it
20:51:14 <nmilosev> We didn't vote for that
20:51:16 <robyduck> do we have 5 votes?
20:51:26 <nmilosev> We have 5 votes for 4 pieces 550 USD
20:51:28 <mitzie> I'm +51 for 5
20:51:41 <mitzie> wow :P +1 for 5 I mean :P
20:51:57 <nmilosev> Why didn't the ticket state 5 pieces :S
20:52:04 <lupinix> as said before, i'm fine with 4, but would prefer 5 if we have enough money
20:52:15 <mitzie> Because the case is 3D printed, it's a good chance to produce more now
20:52:21 <lupinix> nmilosev: ticket says 4-5 :P
20:52:27 <nmilosev> Okay, so let's vote for 5 pieces now
20:52:31 <nmilosev> Please vote now for 5 pieces
20:52:38 <giannisk> +1 for 5
20:52:40 <mitzie> lupinix: It means that it's up for discussion :)
20:52:40 <nmilosev> +1 from me because we have extra budget
20:52:41 <lupinix> +1
20:52:51 <mitzie> +1
20:53:06 <lupinix> mitzie: yes :D
20:53:14 <nmilosev> Need one more
20:53:52 <jwf> Sanqui: Are you at the keyboard? Just curious to know if you plan to have the materials for five
20:53:58 <robyduck> ok let's give it a try then, +1
20:54:10 <jwf> I'm +1 to allocating for five
20:54:17 <mitzie> I have checked with sangui, and we can build the cases for 5
20:54:18 <b10n1k> +1 as far as the distribution criteria are fair
20:54:28 <giannisk> jwf: Did you move back to EMEA again? :P
20:54:33 <nmilosev> #agreed Ticket 28 Approved (Five units)
20:54:45 <nmilosev> Please update the ticket asap
20:54:51 <nmilosev> Thanks everyone for voting
20:54:52 <mitzie> Actually the cases are the problem, because it takes time to produce the case. But we can produce 5 cases in time
20:54:59 <robyduck> jwf: you should not vote on other region's budget
20:55:00 <jwf> mitzie: Ah, okay, excellent, I was hoping to make sure that he had the resources for creating them since he asked for four and it seemed there was a concern about getting the material there in time
20:55:12 <mitzie> nmilosev: Will do, thanks
20:55:37 <jwf> robyduck: Okay, that's fair – I was going off of the previous comment on this
20:55:47 <nmilosev> mitzie, we should probably also say in the ticket who gets these
20:55:55 <nmilosev> Just so it is clear
20:56:36 <nmilosev> robyduck, we have a problem with the vote for the previous ticket then, because I counted jwf's vote on it
20:56:42 <nmilosev> So we actually have +4 then
20:56:45 <nmilosev> Without his vote
20:56:52 <robyduck> nmilosev: no, we have 6 votes even without him
20:57:01 <nmilosev> For ticket #27 (handbooks)
20:57:06 <nmilosev> Are you sure?
20:57:11 <robyduck> giannisk: lupinix nmilosev mitzie robyduck b10n1k
20:57:20 <nmilosev> Okay, great
20:57:21 <lupinix> i count 4 on #27
20:57:33 <nmilosev> Hmm, let me check
20:57:42 <lupinix> (without jwf)
20:57:44 <robyduck> ah 27 is the handbook
20:57:49 <mitzie> giannisk is around now :)
20:57:57 <nmilosev> We have 4
20:58:05 <nmilosev> giannisk, can you review #27 and vote
20:58:07 * giannisk deus ex machina
20:58:13 <nmilosev> If you vote +1 we don't have to revisit
20:58:13 * giannisk is having a look
20:58:16 <nmilosev> (no pressure :D)
20:58:37 <giannisk> Aha, yes, seen that
20:58:37 <robyduck> and b10n1k too
20:58:39 <giannisk> +1
20:58:43 <lupinix> +1 means you buy a new washing machine *scnr*
20:58:44 <giannisk> Good work everyone
20:58:46 <nmilosev> thanks!
20:59:29 <nmilosev> mitzie, about the fedorator, can we put a comment about active communities requesting ones?
20:59:54 <nmilosev> So I think the best course here is to send an email to the ML asking people who wants fedorators? And then decide who gets them.
21:00:06 <lupinix> !
21:00:13 <mitzie> nmilosev: I can handle that
21:00:14 <nmilosev> lupinix, yes please
21:00:34 <lupinix> maybe we can check events within last year to get some impression on activity of the communities
21:00:37 <lupinix> eof
21:00:45 * robyduck agrees with lupinix
21:00:49 <mitzie> Although if a community asks for one, it should be able to prove why it needs it
21:00:53 <nmilosev> lupinix, that's a good idea
21:00:58 <robyduck> if you ask, everyone will raise his hand
21:00:58 <nmilosev> mitzie, also a good ide
21:01:00 <mitzie> yes
21:01:07 <robyduck> we need to set at least some criteria
21:01:09 <nmilosev> We can decide in one of the following meetings
21:01:17 <lupinix> yes
21:01:21 <nmilosev> I think it's better than just one person deciding
21:01:34 <nmilosev> But we can also trust mitzie to do it, if it is okay with everyone
21:01:38 <robyduck> or at FLOCK
21:02:00 <mitzie> We can talk about the criteria at Flock
21:02:16 <nmilosev> robyduck, it's better to discuss it on the meeting, because everyone is here
21:02:16 <giannisk> True, we could shape the criteria at Flock
21:02:41 <robyduck> nmilosev: yes, but we could make a first draft proposal there
21:02:46 <nmilosev> #action mitzie to write to ML about Fedorator distribution
21:03:01 <nmilosev> mitzie, you can write that after Flock, no hurry
21:03:10 <nmilosev> Okay let's wrap the requests?
21:03:15 <nmilosev> Anything else?
21:03:17 <lupinix> yes
21:03:20 <lupinix> @wrap
21:03:25 <jwf> I see Fedorators (generally) being a topic in this session. :) https://flock2017.sched.com/event/Bm9N/fedora-ambassadors-the-future
21:04:03 <robyduck> yeah, but then nb wants to have one :D :D
21:05:04 <jwf> Heheh
21:05:17 <jwf> I just like the kind of thinking that went into coming up with something like this
21:05:31 <nmilosev> Let's move on
21:05:31 <robyduck> nod nod
21:05:32 <jwf> It's super creative and I'm looking forward to seeing how we use these in regions
21:05:37 <nmilosev> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
21:05:42 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-27/f-27-ambassadors-tasks.html
21:05:46 <nmilosev> Have fun at Flock everyone
21:05:59 <nmilosev> So, about the next meeting, it will be on Aug 30
21:06:14 <nmilosev> Shall we postpone it?
21:06:27 <jwf> ! (after meeting planning)
21:06:28 <mitzie> +1
21:06:42 <lupinix> +1
21:07:01 <robyduck> remember F27 is a short release, means no Alpha
21:07:02 <nmilosev> Maybe it's better to skip one meeting because of flock
21:07:19 <robyduck> skip++
21:07:38 <nmilosev> Anyone thinks we shouldn't skip?
21:07:50 * nmilosev noted jwf request
21:08:09 <jwf> Generally, skipping because of Flock seems like a good reason to me :)
21:08:33 <nmilosev> I agree, if someone wants to have the meeting please reach me on fedora mail
21:08:51 <nmilosev> #info Next meeting (Wed Aug 30) will be skipped because of Flock!
21:09:03 <nmilosev> #action nmilosev to write to ML about meeting skip
21:09:13 <nmilosev> #topic Events
21:09:19 <nmilosev> Any events happening near you? Would you like to report from some event that you've been to?
21:10:01 <jwf> Oh, still wanted to share something
21:10:08 <nmilosev> wow
21:10:12 <nmilosev> Sorry jwf
21:10:17 <nmilosev> I'm getting sleepy
21:10:19 <jwf> No worries, this topic is relevant too :)
21:10:19 <nmilosev> please go
21:10:31 <jwf> I just wanted to say, in case you missed it on the list, there is a release party badge:
21:10:32 <jwf> #link https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-26-release-partygoer
21:10:48 <nmilosev> Ah yes, sadly it was a bit late this time :(
21:10:58 <jwf> If you're organizing a release party or already have, please drop a line in the ticket with a link to the wiki page or event report, and we can get you the privileges.
21:11:07 <jwf> nmilosev: Yeah, that was my fault, remembered a little too late this time
21:11:59 <nmilosev> jwf, no worries, we also organized a bit early :(
21:12:04 <nmilosev> Thanks for mentioning it
21:12:08 <jwf> Yep!
21:12:10 <jwf> <eof>
21:12:12 <nmilosev> Anyone else for events?
21:12:48 <nmilosev> #topic Action items from previous meetings
21:12:52 <nmilosev> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/emea_ambassadors/emea_ambassadors.2017-08-02-20.00.html
21:12:57 <nmilosev> #info JacobCZ to write to the ML about F26 DVDs in the near future
21:13:12 <nmilosev> JacobCZ isn't around, anyone got any info regarding DVDs?
21:13:37 <lupinix> nothing here, but i might have missed it as i was on vacation
21:14:02 <nmilosev> I'll just re-action it for next meeting
21:14:27 <nmilosev> #action JacobCZ to write to the ML about F26 DVDs in the near future
21:14:32 <nmilosev> #topic Open Floor
21:14:42 <robyduck> !
21:14:47 <nmilosev> robyduck, yes please
21:14:50 <robyduck> as we have jwf around, congrats to his election to the Council!
21:15:02 <nmilosev> well deserved :)
21:15:11 <lupinix> ah right, congrats :)
21:15:14 <lupinix> jwf++
21:15:14 <zodbot> lupinix: Karma for jflory7 changed to 17 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:15:32 <nb> FYI I am running for FAmSCo and would appreciate receiving your votes.
21:15:45 <lupinix> nb++
21:15:46 <zodbot> lupinix: Karma for nb changed to 18 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:15:49 <lupinix> already done
21:15:52 <jwf> Cheers, thank you robyduck. :)
21:15:59 <robyduck> :)
21:16:12 <jwf> Looking forward to serving the Fedora community in a new capacity and representing you all
21:16:41 <jwf> It's a privilege and an honor, and not something I take lightly.
21:18:18 <lupinix> btw nice to have a meeting with many people and discussion again, looks like holidays are over :)
21:18:22 <nmilosev> robyduck, eof?
21:18:26 <nmilosev> lupinix, yes!
21:18:34 <robyduck> yeah, sorry
21:18:36 <nmilosev> If that is all I will be ending the meeting in two (2) minutes.
21:18:40 <nmilosev> Thanks everyone for coming
21:18:45 <nmilosev> See you in one month. :)
21:18:53 <lupinix> nmilosev: thanks for chairing :)
21:18:59 <lupinix> good night everyone :)
21:19:58 <jwf> nmilosev++ Thanks as always for chairing!
21:19:59 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for nmilosev changed to 4 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:20:12 <lupinix> nmilosev++
21:20:21 <jwf> lupinix: Definitely nice to see a little more activity, same thing happens in NA over the summer, everything almost grinds to a halt. :P
21:20:24 <mitzie> Thanks nmilosev!
21:20:30 <lupinix> .moar cookies nmilosev
21:20:32 <zodbot> here nmilosev, have some more cookies
21:20:40 <nmilosev> #endmeeting