20:00:00 <nmilosev> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2017-06-21
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20:00:06 <nmilosev> #meetingname emea_ambassadors
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20:00:10 <nmilosev> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Please note the meeting protocol is in order: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol - Use ‘!’ to ask for permission to speak, or ‘?’ to ask a question. End with ‘eof’.
20:00:16 <nmilosev> #topic Roll Call
20:00:24 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:00:47 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
20:00:57 <nmilosev> I think zodbot is having some problems today
20:00:58 <nmilosev> :/
20:02:19 <nmilosev> Let's wait a few more minutes for others to show up.
20:02:19 <jonatoni> yep it seems so :/
20:04:50 <nmilosev> #topic Announcements
20:04:57 <nmilosev> #info Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta
20:04:57 <nmilosev> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-26-beta/
20:04:57 <nmilosev> #info PSA: Errors after updating libdb
20:04:57 <nmilosev> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/psa-errors-updating-libdb/
20:04:57 <nmilosev> #info PSA: Your F25 DNF updates may be borked, being worked on
20:04:58 <nmilosev> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463561
20:05:00 <nmilosev> #info Fedora Server reboots - 2017-06-21 21:00UTC
20:05:02 <nmilosev> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IBZPV4FZWBFIIYHWR23VXP23VX5RRULJ/
20:07:04 <nmilosev> #topic Requests
20:07:08 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issues
20:07:09 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-budget
20:07:09 <nmilosev> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org/FY18/emea.html
20:07:13 <nmilosev> #info Ticket #21 - Fedora 26 Release Party - Novi Sad, Serbia
20:07:13 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/21
20:07:36 <nmilosev> Not enough people to vote sadly, so I'll ask a FAmSco member for peer approval.
20:07:45 <nmilosev> jonatoni, same for your ticket :(
20:08:10 <lupinix> .hello lupinix
20:08:10 <zodbot> lupinix: [hellomynameis lupinix]
20:08:21 <lupinix> good evening :)
20:08:23 <nmilosev> #agreed Not enough people to vote. Ask for FAmSCo peer approval, since time is tight.
20:08:30 <nmilosev> hey lupinix good evening :)
20:08:32 <jonatoni> good evening lupinix :)
20:08:37 <nmilosev> #info Ticket #22 - Fedora 26 Release Party - Tirana, Albania
20:08:38 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:08:47 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/22
20:08:47 <mitzie> Sorry for being late!
20:08:51 <nmilosev> mitzie, hey
20:08:52 <lupinix> hi mitzie
20:08:56 <nmilosev> We don't have enough people to vote
20:09:11 <nmilosev> So I guess we should ask famsco members for approval
20:09:17 <mitzie> oh, ok
20:09:23 <nmilosev> It would help if you can just write on these two tickets if budget is ok :)
20:09:39 <nmilosev> #agreed Not enough people to vote. Ask for FAmSCo peer approval, since time is tight.
20:09:42 <lupinix> makes sense, yes (@famsco)
20:10:02 <mitzie> Sure, besides we don't have the numbers yet for Q2, so +1 especially for a RP
20:10:08 <nmilosev> ok :)
20:10:50 <jonatoni> I can help with this, apart my ticket of course :P
20:10:51 <lupinix> maybe we just ask jonatoni friendly to approve #21 :P
20:11:30 <jonatoni> that's what I thought lupinix :P
20:11:50 <nmilosev> That would be great
20:12:00 <nmilosev> But it's better to write it in the ticket itself
20:12:07 <nmilosev> And we need another member for #22
20:12:31 <lupinix> yes
20:12:50 <FedoraUser> .hello FedoraUser
20:12:51 <zodbot> FedoraUser: [hellomynameis FedoraUser]
20:13:03 <lupinix> hi FedoraUser :)
20:13:08 <nmilosev> jonatoni, can you then approve 21 now?
20:13:12 <nmilosev> hello FedoraUser
20:13:26 <jonatoni> yes will comment on the ticket now
20:13:36 <nmilosev> Awesome, thank you
20:13:52 <FedoraUser> .hello fedorauser
20:13:52 <zodbot> FedoraUser: [hellomynameis fedorauser]
20:14:01 <jonatoni> you are welcome nmilosev :)
20:14:02 <lupinix> zodbot is sick today
20:14:11 * FedoraUser confused :-)
20:15:26 <nmilosev> I guess we can move on
20:15:27 <FedoraUser> hi all
20:15:34 <nmilosev> There are no more tickets as far as I can see
20:17:31 <elioqoshi> .hello elioqoshi
20:17:31 <zodbot> elioqoshi: [hellomynameis elioqoshi]
20:17:56 <lupinix> hey elio :)
20:18:02 <elioqoshi> Hola!
20:18:04 <elioqoshi> Long time no see
20:18:10 <elioqoshi> (mostly due to me)
20:18:10 <lupinix> indeed
20:18:50 <nmilosev> hello elioqoshi
20:18:56 <nmilosev> Okay to sum up requests
20:19:20 <nmilosev> for #21 jonatoni can approve, but for #22 we need another member
20:19:22 <nmilosev> from famsco
20:19:38 <nmilosev> Since we don't have 5 people, if I counted righ
20:20:41 <lupinix> yes, i count 4 if i exclude elioqoshi and jonatoni as event owners
20:21:55 <nmilosev> Yeah, it's getting really difficult approving tickets since we don't have enough people
20:23:00 <lupinix> yes :( i already check tickets when i might not be able to attend here and vote in ticket before, as in #21… much more people in the past
20:23:32 <nmilosev> Yes :(
20:23:43 <nmilosev> Let's just move on with the rest of the meeting
20:23:50 <nmilosev> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:23:57 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-26/f-26-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:24:04 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
20:24:24 <b10n1k> hi all
20:24:26 <lupinix> hi b10n1k
20:24:29 <nmilosev> hi b10n1k
20:24:55 <jonatoni> Hi b10n1k :)
20:25:04 <nmilosev> Can we vote?
20:25:04 * lupinix mentions we have 5 voters now…  b10n1k could become the meetings hero :D
20:25:08 <nmilosev> Yeah
20:25:18 <nmilosev> Let's just do a minutes log
20:25:22 <lupinix> yes, just vote now
20:25:52 <nmilosev> #info More members showed up, we can vote for #22, #21 approved by peer review
20:25:58 <nmilosev> #info https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/22
20:26:05 <nmilosev> Please review the ticket and vote
20:26:08 <nmilosev> +1 from me
20:26:10 <lupinix> +1
20:26:45 <mitzie> +1
20:26:53 * nmilosev pings FedoraUser b10n1k rsc mitzie
20:28:08 <b10n1k> sorry but I cant access the link as it appears to be private
20:28:17 <nmilosev> Just one sec
20:28:43 <nmilosev> mitzie, can you add b10n1k on pagure?
20:28:48 <nmilosev> and we need one more :(
20:29:30 <elioqoshi> I have the same issue of not being able to access it
20:29:59 <mitzie> I'll add you both
20:30:42 <mitzie> You are both good to go
20:32:03 <nmilosev> Can elioqoshi also vote on this one
20:32:37 <elioqoshi> Can I?
20:32:39 <nmilosev> Oh I see he is event owner, not sure what is the protocol then :/
20:32:44 <elioqoshi> As well, I'm biased :P
20:32:49 <nmilosev> Well, I mean it's not your ticket
20:32:49 <elioqoshi> Yeah
20:32:53 <nmilosev> But it is your event
20:32:58 <b10n1k> still not able to see the ticket
20:32:59 <lupinix> in theory we always excluded event owners, yes
20:33:10 <nmilosev> We need two more votes, I'm trying to reach FedoraUser
20:34:16 <mitzie> robyduck are you here?
20:35:05 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:35:05 <zodbot> ardian: [hellomynameis ardian]
20:35:10 <robyduck> mitzie: on and off, yes
20:35:13 <nmilosev> Oh hello ardian!
20:35:16 <nmilosev> And robyduck
20:35:22 <nmilosev> We need help with https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/22
20:35:32 <nmilosev> Need two more votes to approve, voting is in progress
20:35:41 <nmilosev> Please review the ticket and vote
20:35:42 * ardian checks the link
20:35:43 <lupinix> hi ardian and robyduck :)
20:35:53 * robyduck clicks
20:36:28 <robyduck> ah yes
20:36:45 <ardian> awesome +1
20:36:49 <robyduck> +1 for that
20:37:01 <nmilosev> Thank you both!
20:37:07 <robyduck> we should not exceed 70 euro for a Release Party though
20:37:08 <nmilosev> #agreed Ticket #22 approved
20:37:12 <lupinix> robyduck++
20:37:16 <lupinix> ardian++
20:37:30 <jonatoni> thank you guys :)
20:38:07 <robyduck> yw, happy Release Party
20:38:28 <elioqoshi> Thanks folks
20:38:41 <nmilosev> robyduck, can you please tell us more about this?
20:38:47 <nmilosev> Since we also approved this one https://pagure.io/ambassadors-emea/funding_requests/issue/21
20:38:51 <robyduck> why are you making it before the release?
20:38:53 <nmilosev> which is for more than 70
20:40:12 <robyduck> nmilosev: IIRC we stopped funding Release Parties years ago in favor of other events, but that was also a wrong thing, because people stopped organizing them
20:40:44 * lupinix has to leave now, dark enough for his astronomical observations
20:40:45 <robyduck> some drinks and snacks are ok, normally there are a few people, 30, max 40
20:40:52 <nmilosev> I'm only asking because I organized release parties for F24 and F25, and both time we exceeded 70eur
20:40:55 <lupinix> we are done with all voting, right?
20:41:04 <nmilosev> lupinix, yes thank you for coming
20:41:05 <robyduck> which can be done with 50-70 euro
20:41:16 <lupinix> good night everyone
20:41:21 * nmilosev o/ lupinix
20:41:22 <ardian> I like the idea of supporting release parties.
20:41:42 <nmilosev> robyduck, I don't remember anyone talking about a limit, is this something new?
20:41:52 <robyduck> ah the other is 100. Well, budget is tight this year, so if you guys can spend less, EMEA will be happy :)
20:41:53 <nmilosev> It's a bit difficult to organize for 50 people with 70 euros :(
20:42:02 <robyduck> if not, it's ok too
20:42:23 <nmilosev> We always try to bring the cost down, it just depends how many people are coming
20:42:36 <robyduck> nmilosev: no, there is no limit, just a correct spending related to the people attending
20:42:48 <nmilosev> I see, thanks for clearing it up :)
20:42:54 <elioqoshi> Release Parties here is THE place for the community to gather
20:43:04 <nmilosev> elioqoshi, same here
20:43:11 <robyduck> which is fine
20:43:14 <elioqoshi> So it depends on the importance of release parties to other events in other communities
20:44:40 <nmilosev> robyduck, you also asked about timing and why are there release events before release. If we were to organize after the release, a lot of people wouldn't come because they are on holidays, especially since most of the people coming are CS students
20:45:02 <robyduck> oh I see
20:45:03 <nmilosev> At least from our experience :(
20:45:07 <jonatoni> same here in Albania
20:45:13 <robyduck> yes, makes sense
20:45:27 <nmilosev> In the winter it's a bit easier because you just have to avoid big holidays
20:45:51 <nmilosev> Okay, if everyone agrees we can continue the meeting :)
20:46:17 <robyduck> unfortunately we slipped a bit during the F26 cycle, right
20:46:22 <robyduck> nmilosev: yeah please do
20:46:27 <nmilosev> #topic Events
20:46:40 <nmilosev> #info Another reminder for BalCCon 2k17 (Novi Sad, Serbia). CFP deadline: July 1st
20:46:45 <nmilosev> #link https://2k17.balccon.org/index.php?title=BalCCon2k17_CfP
20:46:52 <nmilosev> Any events happening near you? Would you like to report from some event that you've been to?
20:46:53 <nmilosev> 
20:47:52 * nmilosev will write to ambassadors ML about BalCCon 2k17
20:49:09 <nmilosev> Moving on
20:49:13 <nmilosev> #topic Action items from previous meetings
20:49:17 <nmilosev> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/emea_ambassadors/emea_ambassadors.2017-06-07-20.00.html
20:49:27 <nmilosev> #info No items from last meeting
20:49:32 <nmilosev> #topic Open Floor
20:49:45 <nmilosev> Thank you all for coming, see you in two weeks :)
20:50:11 <ardian> nmilosev++
20:50:17 <nmilosev> If that is all I will be ending the meeting in two (2) minutes.
20:50:25 <jonatoni> thanks for chairing nmilosev :)
20:50:36 <jonatoni> nmilosev++
20:50:39 <jonatoni> bye all :)
20:51:02 <ardian> Good night everyone
20:52:11 <elioqoshi> Thanks folks
20:52:14 <elioqoshi> Good night
20:52:19 <nmilosev> #endmeeting