18:01:38 <Rhea> #startmeeting Fedora DotNet (2017-05-09)
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18:01:49 <Rhea> #meetingname dotnet
18:01:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'dotnet'
18:01:53 <Rhea> #nick dotnet
18:02:07 <Rhea> #chair nmilosev tmds
18:02:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea nmilosev tmds
18:02:12 <Rhea> #topic Agenda
18:02:15 <Rhea> #link
18:02:17 <Rhea> #info (1) Roll Call
18:02:20 <Rhea> #info (2) Announcements
18:02:23 <Rhea> #info (3) Action items and Tickets
18:02:26 <Rhea> #info (4) Packaging progress / Open Floor discussion
18:02:30 <Rhea> #topic Roll Call
18:02:35 <Rhea> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
18:02:38 <Rhea> #action dotnet New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the DotNet mailing list [ ]
18:02:41 <Rhea> If this is your first time at a DotNet meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
18:02:56 * Rhea pings nmilosev
18:03:34 <Rhea> #chair bt0
18:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea bt0 nmilosev tmds
18:04:12 <Rhea> come on guys, say hi lol
18:04:14 <pcreech> .fas pcreech17
18:04:15 <zodbot> pcreech: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' <>
18:04:21 <Rhea> #chair pcreech
18:04:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea bt0 nmilosev pcreech tmds
18:04:22 <pcreech> (just looked up, sorry)
18:04:23 <bt0> hi o/
18:06:14 <tmds> hi Rhea
18:06:36 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
18:06:36 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <>
18:06:36 <Rhea> #topic Announcements
18:06:39 <Rhea> #info === "2.0 zero-bugs goal" ===
18:06:40 <nmilosev> and hi Rhea
18:06:47 <Rhea> #info Effort to nail down as many bugs as possible (all of them) til the May 10
18:06:49 <Rhea> #link ===
18:07:01 <Rhea> Hee hee. That is tomorrow.
18:07:06 <Rhea> #info === "Rider EAP 21: F# support, bundled TFS plugin and more" ===
18:07:09 <Rhea> #link
18:07:19 <Rhea> Something something... I don't do F#
18:07:30 <Rhea> #topic Action items and Tickets
18:07:33 <Rhea> #link
18:07:34 <tmds> another thing on my todo list ... f#
18:07:35 <Rhea> #link
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18:07:50 <Rhea> I wonder if zodbot survived that paste..
18:07:58 <Rhea> :D
18:08:12 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea open ticket for update ===
18:08:14 <Rhea> #link
18:08:55 <Rhea> SO! it has basic structure of the page outlined in the ticket and I started work on it, however my day is kinda shifted so I barely started now... Will get something done tonight though, got a few more hours to throw into it.
18:09:08 <Rhea> #action Rhea rewrite the C# developer pages based on pagure #17
18:09:11 <Rhea> #link
18:09:50 <Rhea> Please provide moaaaar ideas in the ticket if you have any. I had some input from Brian whos nick i won't'use to not ping him for no reason...
18:10:23 <Rhea> That was about including a getting started page, with step by step example of creating, editing and deploying a simple project somewhere, such as dply
18:10:33 <nmilosev> Rhea++ has been very busy :)
18:10:57 <bt0> Rhea++ (u need some help??)
18:11:18 <Rhea> I'll have to actually look into docker, haven't done anything with it in the past, any input, ideas or suggestions are welcome
18:11:33 <tmds> use the openshift !
18:11:41 <nmilosev> I can only tell you that it is awesome and works very well with dotnet
18:11:43 <Rhea> Yup
18:11:54 <tmds> I know my way around docker, if you have specific questions, you know where to find me
18:12:02 <Rhea> Was there a post about dotnet in openshift?
18:12:37 <tmds> for redhat-developer, yes, but that won't get published till 2.0
18:12:42 <tmds> btw: hot news:
18:12:50 <Rhea> Awesome thanks, I'll probably get to this topic on thursday...
18:13:01 <Rhea> (hot for some people)
18:13:18 <tmds> I mean: hot like, it is published 1 hour ago
18:13:27 <tmds> not like, sexy f# on rider
18:13:28 <tmds> :D
18:13:42 <Rhea> nmilosev any clue about updating the package?
18:14:11 <Rhea> #topic Packaging progress / Open Floor discussion
18:14:12 <nmilosev> Let me glance over this issue
18:14:45 <nmilosev> I can only see the packages
18:14:52 <nmilosev> So just update your project.json and we are good?
18:14:54 <nmilosev> tmds?
18:15:09 <tmds> yes, security fix, so packages need to be updated
18:15:33 <tmds> nmilosev: I think Rhea 's question is about the Fedora dotnet package
18:15:50 <Rhea> Yeah as far as i know, this issue is about nuget packages, correct?
18:15:53 <nmilosev> Yes, do we have an updated RH package?
18:15:58 <nmilosev> for new cli?
18:16:40 <Rhea> nmilosev: I believe that the next would only be 2.0 with csproj tooling, until then Red Hat sticks with 1.1.1 where it excluded the new tooling
18:17:20 <nmilosev> As far as I am aware building from source is still impossible
18:17:35 <tmds> some of the assemblies in the issue list are shipped with .NET Core itself, e.g. System.Net.Http, System.Net.Security
18:17:35 <nmilosev> So we can only have new tooling if we take it with rover from RH package
18:17:54 <Rhea> We should talk about this next time when we have Omair as well, ideally we should try to shift the order into the right area - Fedora be the FIRST and RHEL second.
18:18:15 <tmds> nice Rhea
18:18:19 <tmds> :D
18:18:44 <tmds> it's Microsoft really that needs to make a move first
18:19:01 <nmilosev> That is difficult Rhea because RH actually allows for some packaging stuff which we don't :(
18:19:14 <tmds> and their FIRST is themselves
18:19:17 <Rhea> Well yes, upstream build thing has to be finished but we should still try to be first here
18:20:15 <Rhea> tmds: does it have a goal, is it supposed to be all sorted before 2.0?
18:20:45 <tmds> that is the goal, yes, but deadlines seem to be closing in
18:20:56 <tmds> and while a goal, probably not the top priority
18:21:49 <tmds> for Microsoft
18:21:56 <tmds> I mean, it is a top priority for RH
18:22:15 <Rhea> Yup
18:22:31 <Rhea> Okay moving on, anything else that is not source-build that we should maybe do or think about?
18:24:40 <pcreech> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:24:49 <nmilosev> ^
18:24:58 <Rhea> ^
18:25:44 <Rhea> pcreech you seem really bored with a few hours of dotnet time on your hands.. wink wink... I'll make you my test-bunny for the developer page content :D
18:26:08 <pcreech> Rhea: Pile it on!
18:26:14 <Rhea> :D
18:26:17 <Rhea> #endmeeting