01:00:31 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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01:00:40 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
01:00:40 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
01:00:51 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:02:12 <award3535> #chair juggler
01:02:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 juggler
01:02:18 <award3535> evening juggler
01:02:25 <juggler> evening award
01:03:12 * ParadoxGuitarist waves.
01:03:17 <award3535> #info jsandys will not be attending this evening, wants everyone to know LFNW is moving on well
01:03:23 <juggler> hey PG
01:03:28 <award3535> #chair ParadoxGuitarist
01:03:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 juggler
01:03:32 <award3535> welcome PG
01:03:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> Also I just did all the shiping for LFNW
01:03:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> =)
01:04:04 <award3535> PG yes I saw and paid the last bill from Bitcamp today
01:04:24 <ParadoxGuitarist> huzzah
01:05:44 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor
01:05:45 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com>
01:06:00 <award3535> #chair danofsatx
01:06:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 danofsatx juggler
01:06:08 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:06:32 <award3535> #info LFNW is moving on well, Bitcamp complete less one reimbursement
01:07:54 <award3535> Anyone else have announcements
01:08:30 <award3535> ok moving on
01:08:33 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:08:46 <award3535> there are no tickets scheduled for this meeting
01:08:58 <award3535> any objections to moving on to open floor
01:09:09 <ParadoxGuitarist> I second the motion!
01:09:27 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:09:42 <award3535> PG did you happen to read last weeks minutes?
01:10:34 <ParadoxGuitarist> I didn't =(
01:10:50 <juggler> whoa open floor already? wow...a record maybe.. :)
01:10:51 <ParadoxGuitarist> was pretty sick over the weekend, then easter
01:11:19 <juggler> speaking of events...any potential interest in this one? I've sent out a request to find out how much a table costs, if anything:  http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-source-summit-north-america
01:12:11 <award3535> PG here is the note from last week that was a significant change
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: #info Fedora Council wiki page development requirement
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: What - what the event is and what its all about
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Where - Where the event is located to include lodging availability if applicable
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: When - Dates of the event, schedule of events to include time frames
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Who - List of Fedora attendees, major guest speakers and sponsors
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Why - Give a general or specific reason why Fedora is making an appearance at the event or conference
01:12:15 <award3535> 9:06:29 PM - award3535: 9:03:16 PM - award3535: the 5 W's must be on every wiki that we create for events or conferences
01:12:54 <danofsatx> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-04-14/famna.2017-04-14-00.58.log.html
01:12:57 <ParadoxGuitarist> That's fine
01:13:23 <award3535> juggler, I will caution on the event cost, since right now we only have 4.5K for each quarter
01:13:39 <award3535> and we already exceeded that for Q1
01:14:05 <award3535> SELF and OLF are the next events that will take up the rest of the budget for Q2
01:14:51 <danofsatx> open source summit would be one to approach big daddy about sharing a booth with
01:15:05 <ParadoxGuitarist> West coast doesn't have anything til SCaLE again typically.
01:15:06 <danofsatx> like OSCON
01:15:10 <juggler> hm, should I not bother then?
01:15:28 <ParadoxGuitarist> It wouldn't surprise me if Linux Foundation let us come for free.
01:15:45 <ParadoxGuitarist> So costs would just be lodging as it's near LAX.
01:16:08 <award3535> juggler, usually the non profit edu stuff is very little if no costs for booths
01:16:50 <ParadoxGuitarist> and Fedora has a really good relationship with the linux foundation.
01:17:07 <award3535> juggler, you can always ask......
01:18:00 <ParadoxGuitarist> Clint Savage use to work for them.
01:18:01 <juggler> yeah, I'll wait to hear  back and then we can at least have some initial #s (if any)
01:20:21 <ParadoxGuitarist> We need USBs
01:20:31 <ParadoxGuitarist> #subject change.
01:20:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> hehe
01:21:36 <award3535> PG, unless we can get RH to pay for them, we dont have the budget for it
01:21:49 <ParadoxGuitarist> Have we ordered F26 media yet?
01:22:05 <award3535> I dont even think we are going to even have money for media.
01:22:23 <ParadoxGuitarist> What's our current budget?
01:22:31 <award3535> 4.5K per quarter
01:22:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> so 18k total?
01:23:25 <award3535> so fare yes, 18K thats 11K less than last year
01:23:51 <ParadoxGuitarist> How much do we usually spend on media? 900?
01:24:03 <award3535> a year 5.1K
01:24:19 <award3535> two distros at 2.5K
01:24:33 <award3535> plus shipping
01:25:18 <ParadoxGuitarist> If we're not sure we can afford that over the course of this year, then let's hold off on the F26 purchase
01:25:19 <award3535> I will need to put in the request we need the increase for media production
01:25:43 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'll follow up with my contact at RH about the USB drives
01:26:01 <ParadoxGuitarist> Since those will never go to waste
01:26:18 <ParadoxGuitarist> Also: I had an idea, but I don't know if it's cost affective.
01:26:30 <ParadoxGuitarist> instead of printing, if we stuck a case badge on there.
01:26:34 <juggler> we'd like to hear the idea..
01:26:54 <ParadoxGuitarist> tbh it would probably last just as long as the screen print job.
01:27:17 <award3535> What I see happening, we will decrease the media production and bring the media on hard drives to make and deliver media via usb or dvd's upon request
01:28:30 <award3535> I think the council is steering us that way, or atleast the appearance of that, being more innovative towards the events
01:28:35 <ParadoxGuitarist> I know the cost is much higher, but it might save money in the end.
01:29:00 <ParadoxGuitarist> Also RH is all for us getting rid of DVD media
01:29:13 <ParadoxGuitarist> at least that was the sense I got from SCALE
01:29:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> that's all I got
01:29:57 <award3535> I get the same feeling as well, and it does cut costs and waste
01:30:17 <juggler> hopefully we'll get a more resilient media writer too. I was using it just this past weekend and it kept crashing on me. that was not fun.!
01:30:23 <ParadoxGuitarist> and people will keep them a lot longer than a DVD
01:32:22 <danofsatx> I still have my F20 (I think) USB...might've been 18.
01:32:27 <award3535> I have got a lot of comments at events that why do we still give out DVDs, and almost everyone is carrying some sort of USB with multiple ISOs copied on it and they take it with them and make their own boot-able device
01:32:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> yep
01:33:34 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'll work on getting a quote
01:33:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> barring anything else, I need to go play with my kid
01:33:55 <award3535> I think that we all saw this coming, but we can discuss this more in detail when I get a more firm answer on budget
01:33:57 <ParadoxGuitarist> he's literally jumping all over me.
01:34:08 <juggler> hehe, fair enough PG
01:34:18 <ParadoxGuitarist> nite all
01:34:20 <ParadoxGuitarist> good meeting
01:34:23 <ParadoxGuitarist> short and sweet
01:34:24 <juggler> nite
01:34:32 <juggler> see pm
01:34:38 <juggler> (last msg to PG)
01:34:46 <juggler> woops oh well!
01:35:13 <award3535> Thank you all for showing up, Our next meeting is Apr 27 2100 east see you all then
01:35:16 <award3535> #endmeeting