00:58:27 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA 00:58:27 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Apr 14 00:58:27 2017 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:58:27 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:58:27 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 00:58:42 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA 00:58:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 00:58:56 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 00:59:05 <award3535> #chair jsandys reher 00:59:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys reher 00:59:10 * mikedep333_ is here 00:59:35 <award3535> #chair mikedep333_ 00:59:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys mikedep333_ reher 01:00:26 * mikedep333_ needs to fix his _ account 01:01:37 <award3535> #topic === Announcements === 01:02:06 <award3535> I have one to post when everyone is ready 01:02:19 <jsandys> ready 01:02:38 <award3535> #info Fedora Council wiki page development requirement 01:02:38 <award3535> What - what the event is and what its all about 01:02:38 <award3535> Where - Where the event is located to include lodging availability if applicable 01:02:38 <award3535> When - Dates of the event, schedule of events to include time frames 01:02:38 <award3535> Who - List of Fedora attendees, major guest speakers and sponsors 01:02:39 <award3535> Why - Give a general or specific reason why Fedora is making an appearance at the event or conference 01:03:15 <award3535> the 5 W's must be on every wiki that we create for events or conferences 01:03:32 <jsandys> Sounds good 01:03:40 <award3535> jsandys, please look at the SELF wiki and form yours for LFNW 01:04:12 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor 01:04:13 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com> 01:04:19 <award3535> for events that are already past there is no need to change what is already there 01:04:26 <award3535> #chair danosatx 01:04:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danosatx jsandys mikedep333_ reher 01:04:52 <danofsatx> close, but no cigar ;) 01:05:04 <jsandys> I took a first cut at changing it, some of the topics didn't seem to apply 01:05:16 <award3535> #chair danofsatx 01:05:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx danosatx jsandys mikedep333_ reher 01:05:25 <jsandys> I'll take a cut with 5Ws 01:05:32 <award3535> danofsatx sorry, got ahead of my own typing 01:05:44 <juggler> o/ 01:05:48 <award3535> danofsatx did you see the earlier post 01:05:55 <award3535> #chair juggler 01:05:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx danosatx jsandys juggler mikedep333_ reher 01:06:24 <award3535> reposting for those who just entered the room 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: #info Fedora Council wiki page development requirement 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: What - what the event is and what its all about 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Where - Where the event is located to include lodging availability if applicable 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: When - Dates of the event, schedule of events to include time frames 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Who - List of Fedora attendees, major guest speakers and sponsors 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:02:39 PM - award3535: Why - Give a general or specific reason why Fedora is making an appearance at the event or conference 01:06:28 <award3535> 9:03:16 PM - award3535: the 5 W's must be on every wiki that we create for events or conferences 01:06:32 <danofsatx> yes, reading 01:06:43 <danofsatx> er, read, I should say 01:07:20 <award3535> the council has pointed out they want more dedication to the event of why we need to be there 01:07:58 <danofsatx> justifiable, IMHO 01:09:34 <award3535> I agree, at first I looked at it as more squeezing of the money pot, but after I cooled off and started asking more questions it seems very reasonable and justifiable 01:10:47 <award3535> most of the wiki pages we create already have 4 of the 5, we were just missing the why 01:11:38 <jsandys> I believe we should have a presence and support the organizations that support us, it is a balancing act. 01:11:58 <award3535> Also the reports should cover the basis of all the 5 areas. we already do very well in the reports 01:12:32 <jsandys> 5 areas = 5 Ws ? 01:12:38 <mikedep333_> award3535: ack. 01:12:51 <award3535> jsandys that also is true, but the council wants more of why should we be there, and what we expect to get out of the event 01:13:01 <award3535> jsandys yes 5 w's 01:13:43 <award3535> I guess you can say that they want metrics for the money spent on the event 01:14:37 <jsandys> What should be measured? New installations? How? 01:15:40 <award3535> jsandys for example your event, you are promoting the security spin, how many did you bring with you, and how many you gave out that is one metric. 01:16:31 <award3535> another could be did you assist in loading the same or did you demonstrate how to, and how many were there 01:16:36 <jsandys> I'm building the kiosk to take guest comments? 01:16:55 <award3535> jsandys that too is a metric 01:17:00 <jsandys> What checkboxes should I ask? 01:18:17 <award3535> jsandys that is where you as an ambassador that knows your event should come up with questions 01:18:44 <award3535> be creative, the council really likes the creative edge 01:19:40 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt 01:19:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx danosatx jsandys juggler kk4ewt mikedep333_ reher 01:19:49 <jsandys> Just testing a webcam on the RPI to capture the badge QR code to get contact information. 01:21:11 <award3535> jsandys, that is exactly what the council is looking for, creative and innovative thinking, now just tie in the why metric and your good 01:21:21 <award3535> ok lets move onto tickets 01:21:35 <award3535> #topic === Tickets === 01:21:51 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues 01:22:01 <jsandys> I think the council is also looking for marketing with ambassadors 01:22:15 <award3535> .famnaticket 170 01:22:16 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #170: Bitcamp 2017 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/170 01:22:25 <award3535> jsandys that too is correct 01:23:04 <award3535> Bitcamp folks please complete your reports and reimbursement requests 01:23:25 <mikedep333_> I will complete my reimbursement request. 01:23:36 <mikedep333_> http://mikedep333.blogspot.com/2017/04/fedora-bitcamp-2017-wrap-up.html 01:23:55 <award3535> mikedep333_ thank you.... 01:24:32 <jsandys> Do reimbursement go on the same ticket or new? 01:24:38 <award3535> that is all I had on that ticket 01:25:26 <award3535> jsandys new ticket under FAmNA requests and make a private ticket, that way only a very limited number of people have access to the ticket 01:25:39 <award3535> and on pagure 01:26:24 <award3535> moving on 01:26:27 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:26:28 <jsandys> Link to FAmNA requests? 01:26:38 <award3535> jsandys stand by... 01:27:26 <jsandys> TRAC ? 01:27:30 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=reimbursement&tags=request 01:27:41 <award3535> jsandys trac is dead 01:27:45 <jsandys> Thanks 01:28:15 <kk4ewt> ok we are having an issue getting stuff back from Bitcamp, I have contacted the event lead and he is contacting the event people to find out why our stuff hasnt been seen by ups 01:28:41 <award3535> jsandys ensure you go on the right side of the ticket under metadata and select reimbursements, and the check in the private block 01:28:48 <award3535> kk4ewt rgr... 01:28:56 <jsandys> K 01:29:30 <award3535> so did the event take responsibility for the event box 01:29:46 <award3535> mikedep333_ were you there 01:30:03 <award3535> do you know of this situation 01:30:17 <kk4ewt> award3535, i am just making the report, its being worked on 01:30:18 <mikedep333_> I left it on the table. 01:30:35 <mikedep333_> I left it during the award ceremony. 01:30:41 <award3535> kk4ewt ok thank you 01:30:51 <mikedep333_> I did not hand it over to anyone personally. 01:30:57 <mikedep333_> (same with the banner) 01:31:24 <award3535> mikedep333_ sounds like kk4ewt has it under control 01:32:54 <award3535> kk4ewt did you see my edit on the SELF Wiki 01:33:02 <kk4ewt> nope 01:33:53 <kk4ewt> yep 01:34:59 <award3535> kk4ewt just pm'd you 01:37:48 <jsandys> How does the council expect to use ambassadors for marketing and other development activities? 01:38:12 <award3535> jsandys they have not come down with that information yet 01:38:39 <jsandys> Part 2 of the note. 01:39:29 <award3535> the only reason I found out about this requirement was a ticket I filed with the council, and got the 12ga blast 01:40:20 <award3535> so my recommendation is that if you can sit in on a council meeting and listen I would 01:42:17 <jsandys> when do they meet, on IRC or telecon? 01:42:34 <juggler> gonna head out to commute for my next meeting. have a good evening all. 01:42:56 <award3535> juggler thank you for attending... have a good evening 01:43:40 <juggler> you too, award! 01:43:56 <award3535> jsandys let me check 01:46:14 <jsandys> I can probably find it. 01:47:57 <award3535> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps is a good place to start 01:48:37 <jsandys> open in other screen 01:49:14 <award3535> Does anyone else have anything for the group 01:49:36 <danofsatx> not i 01:49:57 <award3535> jsandys https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings 01:51:17 <jsandys> OK, back to testing the webcam. 01:52:06 <award3535> ok folks, our next meeting is 20 April 2017 same time.... 01:52:13 <award3535> thank you all for coming 01:52:29 <danofsatx> aye 01:52:38 <mikedep333_> good night 01:52:41 <reher> thanks award3535 01:52:53 <award3535> #endmeeting