16:29:53 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2017-04-11)
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16:29:55 <jwf> #meetingname commops
16:29:55 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
16:29:57 <jwf> #nick commops
16:30:01 <jwf> #topic Agenda
16:30:07 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2017-04-11
16:30:12 <jwf> #info (1) Roll Call / Q&A
16:30:16 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
16:30:22 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
16:30:26 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
16:30:30 <jwf> #info (5) Community Blog
16:30:34 <jwf> #info (6) Open Floor
16:30:37 <jwf> #topic Roll Call / Q&A
16:30:42 <jwf> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
16:30:48 <jwf> #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
16:30:52 <jwf> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
16:31:01 <x3mboy> #info Eduard Lucena; UTC-3; Marketing, Magazine, Infraestructure, Ambassadors, Social Media
16:31:22 <jwf> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC+2; CommOps, Marketing, Magazine, Diversity WG, Ambassadors, and more
16:31:25 * jwf waves
16:31:27 <jwf> #chair x3mboy
16:31:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf x3mboy
16:31:52 <bexelbie> .hello bex
16:31:53 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
16:32:35 <jwf> #chair bexelbie
16:32:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie jwf x3mboy
16:32:40 * jwf waves with the other hand
16:33:11 <dhanesh95> #info Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC+5:30, CommOps, Marketing, Python, ML, Packaging and more to come :P
16:33:39 * dhanesh95 waves
16:33:42 <skamath> .hello skamath
16:33:43 <zodbot> skamath: skamath 'Sachin S Kamath ' <sskamath96@gmail.com>
16:33:43 <bexelbie> #info Brian Exelbierd; UTC +2; FCAIC
16:33:46 <skamath> #info Sachin S. Kamath; UTC +5.30; CommOps, Metrics, GSoC, Security, *
16:33:56 <dhanesh95> skamath, jwf, x3mboy o/
16:34:04 <skamath> dhanesh95, o/
16:34:21 <jwf> #chair dhanesh95 skamath
16:34:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie dhanesh95 jwf skamath x3mboy
16:34:27 <jwf> Hiya! :)
16:34:38 * skamath waves to jwf
16:34:44 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
16:34:45 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
16:34:48 <x3mboy> dhanesh95, o/
16:34:53 <x3mboy> skamath, o/
16:34:53 <dhanesh95> Be back in a while. Call for dinner :P
16:35:02 <skamath> x3mboy, Hiya! :)
16:35:02 <x3mboy> bexelbie, o/
16:35:14 <bee2502> #info Bee ; UTC +5.30 ; Metrics, GSoC, CommOps
16:35:40 <x3mboy> bee2502, o/
16:35:50 <skamath> Hey bee2502 :)
16:36:13 <jwf> #chair bee2502
16:36:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502 bexelbie dhanesh95 jwf skamath x3mboy
16:36:16 <bee2502> o/ skamath x3mboy jflory7
16:36:17 <jwf> dhanesh95: No problem!
16:36:27 <jwf> bee2502: \o
16:36:36 <skamath> bee2502, jflory7 is now jwf ;)
16:37:04 * jwf gets pinged for both just the same :)
16:37:25 <jwf> Seems like we have a pretty strong showing at the start, so let's go ahead and roll on into announcements!
16:37:33 <jwf> #topic Announcements
16:37:38 <jwf> #info === "Fedora Council FAD Report – 2017/2018 Initial Steps" ===
16:37:43 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-council-fad-2017-report/
16:37:48 <jwf> #info The Fedora Council held their FAD from 26-28 March. During the FAD, they tackled some key areas of interest across the project. This is one part of a series of posts (to come). Important information for any contributor to review.
16:37:53 <jwf> #info === "Mission to understand: Fedora Diversity FAD 2017" ===
16:37:58 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity-fad-2017/
16:38:03 <jwf> #info The Diversity Team held their first FAD at the end of January. They worked on a few topics to help better understand the community and promote positive behavior that follows the spirit of being excellent to each other. Read the full details in the event report.
16:38:08 <jwf> #info === "Participate in Fedora 26 translation sprint" ===
16:38:12 <skamath> bexelbie++ Super karma for the Council report :D
16:38:12 <zodbot> skamath: Karma for bex changed to 14 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:38:13 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-26-translation-sprint/
16:38:17 <jwf> #info This week, the virtual FAD for Fedora 26 translations is happening! Feel free to check it out but also to help signal boost it if you are in communities with non-English native languages!
16:38:19 <jwf> <eof>
16:38:27 <jwf> Anyone want to throw something else out there?
16:38:32 <jwf> bexelbie++ for sure
16:38:46 * jwf could learn a few lessons from how fast bexelbie whips copy out
16:38:57 <x3mboy> bexelbie++
16:38:57 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for bex changed to 15 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:38:58 <jwf> :P
16:39:16 <x3mboy> I need to see it, it will help me with the marketing report too!
16:39:21 <bexelbie> jwf, you only see the final product - not the agonizing that goes into it - and that was a team effort
16:39:45 <jwf> :)
16:40:21 <jwf> Anything new in the GSoC side of things?
16:40:22 <skamath> Can imagine the amount of discussion that shaped up this report.
16:40:36 * jwf has admittedly not kept up as well as he would like to with GSoC activities right now
16:40:48 <skamath> Not much SoC activity going on atm.
16:41:08 <bee2502> Slots will be out on 19th april
16:41:10 <skamath> Last year SoC was a lot noisier.
16:41:13 <jwf> Gotcha. Applications just closed, right?
16:41:21 <jwf> Well, not just
16:41:23 <skamath> jwf, Yep. A week back.
16:41:28 <jwf> Okay, cool.
16:41:35 <Amita> bexelbie++ teamefforts++
16:41:44 <jwf> So next Wednesday is the day of note.
16:41:58 <jwf> #info GSoC 2017 slots will be announced on April 19 (next Wednesday)
16:42:01 <skamath> Amita, o/
16:42:07 <Amita> hi skamath
16:42:26 <x3mboy> Amita, o/
16:42:29 <bexelbie> I don't think so
16:42:32 <bexelbie> re: GSoC
16:42:32 * jwf waves to Amita :)
16:42:38 <bexelbie> we apply for slots next week
16:42:40 <jwf> bexelbie: The date?
16:42:45 <Amita> hi x3mboy
16:42:45 <bexelbie> they won't announce until like May 1 I think
16:42:51 <jwf> Ooohh, okay, so we submit our stuff to Google
16:42:54 <jwf> #undo
16:42:54 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jwf at 16:41:58 : GSoC 2017 slots will be announced on April 19 (next Wednesday)
16:43:12 <jwf> #info GSoC 2017 student applications submitted to Google on April 19 (next Wednesday)
16:43:26 <skamath> bexelbie, April 19, 16:00 UTC: Slot allocations are announced by Google
16:43:35 <skamath> That's what I've got in the e-mail
16:43:44 <bexelbie> skamath, yes
16:43:46 <bexelbie> slot counts
16:43:47 <skamath> But I don't think that'll be public yet
16:43:47 <bexelbie> not people
16:43:48 <skamath> Got it
16:43:49 <jwf> Ohhh, I know what that means, that's when we know how many slots Google gives us
16:43:50 <bexelbie> just for clarity
16:43:57 <skamath> nod nod
16:43:58 <jwf> Okay, let me try one more time, heh
16:43:58 <skamath> Got it.
16:43:59 <jwf> #undo
16:43:59 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jwf at 16:43:12 : GSoC 2017 student applications submitted to Google on April 19 (next Wednesday)
16:44:15 <jwf> #info GSoC 2017 organization slots shared with participating projects on April 19 (next Wednesday)
16:44:24 <jwf> Got it this time! I hope. :)
16:44:44 <skamath> jwf++ 100!
16:44:50 <jwf> Any other announcements? People working on cool stuff? Read a cool blog post? Want to share something?
16:45:10 <jwf> Doesn't have to be super formal stuff either :)
16:45:30 <skamath> I've got nothing.
16:45:32 <Questre> Hi, am new here.
16:45:40 <jwf> #info Congratulations to marinaz on adding +1 to her family count! marinaz++
16:45:44 <skamath> Hi Questre, welcome to CommOps :)
16:45:50 <jwf> Questre: Hello! :) Welcome to the CommOps meeting.
16:46:50 <x3mboy> Questre, Hi!
16:46:52 <jwf> Questre: Want to give a quick intro before we move on in the meeting?
16:46:58 <bee2502> Questre , Hi !
16:47:09 <Questre> ty :)  Posted on CommOps mailing list about joining - name is David Eisenstein.  Did Fedora Legacy years ago....
16:47:37 <jwf> Questre: Ah, hey! I did see your intro, I was hoping to reply through the intros tonight (/me is a little behind)…
16:48:30 <jwf> Questre: Happy to have you here with us. :) You can get a little taste of some of the things we're working on tonight. If you have any questions at any time, feel free to interject with a '!' if you have something to add or a '?' if you have a question, and we can slow down to make sure we can help answer any questions if it feels like it's moving a little quick. :)
16:48:34 <jwf> Happy to have you with us!
16:48:54 <jwf> #info Welcome Questre to the CommOps meeting!
16:49:00 <skamath> jwf++ for being the best chair!
16:49:05 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
16:49:12 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-04-04/commops.2017-04-04-16.31.html
16:49:18 <jwf> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
16:49:25 <jwf> #info === [PENDING] jwf Update ticket #21 with proposed guidelines based on agreed objectives/goals for pre- and post-event reports ===
16:49:32 <jwf> #info Decided that this ticket is best communicated and shared with FAmSCo - intend to migrate this ticket out of CommOps and start discussion with FAmSCo
16:49:48 * jwf forgot to mention during announcements that me and bee2502 did a ticket triage the other night…
16:49:54 <jwf> #action jwf File ticket upstream with FAmSCo about Ambassador event reports
16:49:59 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] jwf Add comment to ticket #70 explaining our discussion and focus of student pack, give examples of questions, post to mailing list asking for comments ===
16:50:04 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/70#comment-435022
16:50:10 <jwf> #info === [ONGOING] commops Review and leave feedback on ticket for CommOps Google Summer of Code slot https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/105 ===
16:50:17 <jwf> #action commops Review and leave feedback on ticket for CommOps Google Summer of Code slot https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/105
16:50:23 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] jwf Investigate why like / share buttons have gone MIA in Magazine / CommBlog ===
16:50:28 <jwf> #info Community Blog upgraded, should be fixed now
16:50:31 <jwf> <eof>
16:50:54 <jwf> That's all of the action items from last meeting… was obviously a little biased towards me, but let's see what we can do for this week. ;)
16:51:06 <jwf> #topic Tickets
16:51:09 <jwf> Open ticket meeting - let's find some issues to work on over the next few months that are exciting and that people want to work on. This will help fill the gaps too when jwf becomes inactive next month.
16:51:29 <bee2502> https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/89
16:51:37 <bee2502> should we close this for now ?
16:51:48 <jwf> So, in light of the fact that I'm going to be pulling back starting next month, I thought that now could be a good time for us to try focus in on some tickets that people thought would be cool and exciting for us to work on!
16:52:02 <jwf> Questre: You can see the tickets, or tasks, we're working on in our Pagure: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues
16:52:16 <Questre> ty
16:52:41 <jwf> bee2502: I'm a little confused on whether the functionality does exist yet?
16:53:12 <jwf> bee2502: If it's there, then we could do some analyzing, but if it's not going to be implemented until Hubs… that's something that could mean another year of waiting.
16:53:32 <jwf> If the latter, I'd rather close it and revisit it when the functionality is there and we have a need for it
16:53:34 <bee2502> jwf : zanata team wants to wait for hubs
16:53:43 <bee2502> pls check the new comments
16:53:52 * jwf does a quick scroll through of tickets for ideas
16:53:59 <skamath> I think that's a wontfix for now.
16:54:16 <skamath> We can revisit that after Hubs implementation is what I think.
16:54:16 <jwf> bee2502: Yeah, I read them, but it still wasn't clear to me if the functionality existed or if they just didn't want to do anything with it until Hubs.
16:54:22 * jwf nods
16:54:37 <jwf> In that case, then I am +1 to close as "Not possible" for the time being there
16:55:21 <skamath> +1
16:55:26 <skamath> Sounds good to me
16:55:28 <skamath> bee2502++
16:55:30 <zodbot> skamath: Karma for bee2502 changed to 10 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:55:43 <jwf> One ticket I think we could coordinate with on the Diversity Team with is Fedora Appreciation Day (Week): https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/92
16:56:09 <skamath> jwf, Don't you think we should rename it a bit?
16:56:15 <jwf> I know this was a high interest ticket and I definitely think it would be something great for us to work on, and I know the Diversity Team has a high motive and interest to work together. :)
16:56:26 <jwf> skamath: Fedora Appreciation Week?
16:56:37 <skamath> It's fine if it's week but Fedora Appreciation Day = FAD
16:56:57 <skamath> And FAD can be a little ambiguous.
16:57:01 <jwf> Yeah, agreed on that. :) I think making it a week will also solve that subtle inconvenience. :)
16:57:10 <skamath> That's what I was thinking.
16:57:17 <bee2502> skamath : I think the original plan is for a week :)
16:57:38 <skamath> Cool then. The FAD thing just struck me :P
16:57:42 <jwf> So ticket #92 seems like something we would want to work on to implement? +1/0/-1?
16:57:46 <jwf> +1 from me :)
16:57:53 <bee2502> +1
16:58:13 <dhanesh95> +1
16:58:15 <skamath> +1
16:59:08 <x3mboy> +1
16:59:14 <jwf> #agreed CommOps will add ticket #92 to meeting agenda and raise priority on ticket
17:00:27 <jwf> I also assume there's still interest in the FOSS Student Pack (ticket #70). That's currently still on the agenda, so unless we want to refocus the priority to something less, I figure that one can remain as-is
17:00:49 <dhanesh95> I was going to suggest #70
17:00:54 <jwf> Are there any other tickets in the Pagure that people want to try tackling together?
17:00:57 <jwf> dhanesh95: :)
17:01:17 * jwf feels like maybe highlighting 2-4 more might be helpful for long-term planning
17:01:32 <dhanesh95> Can we do #70 and #92 together?
17:01:44 <x3mboy> #70 for me is the one I want to focus
17:01:48 <bee2502> we have a lot of onboarding and metrics related tickets too
17:01:54 <jwf> bee2502 expressed interest in #88 (Metrics for Release Parties) and I know she has plans to work on this in the short-term.
17:02:05 <skamath> I can work on the metrics
17:02:20 <x3mboy> I'm not sure how metrics tickets are solved
17:02:23 <skamath> bee2502, let me know if you are planning to start off with something. I can help.
17:02:28 <dhanesh95> Shall we divide ourselves in groups to work on 3 different tickets?
17:02:32 <x3mboy> Automatics reports or something like that???
17:02:32 <jwf> dhanesh95: I assume you mean have them be things we work on and not tie them together? If so, then certainly, I see no qualm.
17:02:39 <jwf> dhanesh95: I do like that idea of dividing and conquering
17:02:51 <bee2502> skamath : sure, also take a peek here : https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?status=Open&tags=metrics
17:03:20 <jwf> Since we are touching on some of the metrics tasks, I'd be really interested to try to fit another metrics ticket onto the horizon that we would want to try working on. Could end up being related to GSoC but really doesn't have to be.
17:03:33 * jwf acknowledges the metrics side is an area of expertise that he is lacking in
17:04:17 <bee2502> I will open one soon on geographical metrics for community
17:04:47 * dhanesh95 wanted to get involved with metrics once. He got lost.
17:05:08 <skamath> bee2502, that will be really helpful from Diversity point of view as well.
17:05:34 <bee2502> dhanesh95 : skamath and I can still help you, if you are interested.
17:05:46 <bee2502> skamath : true
17:06:15 <skamath> I'll also work on the dashboard I had mentioned about in #105
17:06:22 <skamath> Mockups first, maybe.
17:06:37 <dhanesh95> Playing around with data and generating graphs seems fun. I just want to be careful that I don't start spilling items off my plate
17:06:57 <bee2502> dhanesh95 makes sense
17:07:31 * jwf is seeing tickets #70, #88, #92, future#108 on the horizon…
17:07:50 <jwf> #70 and #92 are very big tasks that will benefit from being broken down into smaller pieces
17:08:19 * jwf is missing what the scope or difficulty rating on #88 / future#108 would be
17:09:15 <skamath> jwf, 88 should be fairly easy to pull off
17:09:20 <skamath> Atleast that's what I think.
17:09:42 <skamath> If we have a badge using which we can pull metrics, then it should be easy
17:09:56 * jwf nods (and we do, but only one so far)
17:10:08 <skamath> I'm confused about the feedback part though.
17:10:25 * jwf also sees #107 (Automated Fedocal reminders to send to all mailing lists for upcoming Elections) becoming relevant in the future, but not until after F26 drops
17:10:33 <skamath> Central feedback vs Custom feedback.
17:10:50 <bee2502> we def need more discussion on that
17:11:02 <skamath> bee2502, re: Feedback or elections/
17:11:08 <jwf> Okay, understood. We can definitely spend the time on it then.
17:11:08 <skamath> Both, I suppose :P
17:11:25 <bee2502> skamath : feedback
17:11:41 <jwf> So, starting wide, do all these tasks feel like some things that people are motivated to work on?
17:11:45 <bee2502> we need feedback from jkurik on elections before we proceed
17:11:49 * dhanesh95 thinks #70, #88 and #92 are enough to keep us busy for the next couple of months
17:12:00 <bee2502> also, anybody interested in onboarding tickets ?
17:12:13 <jwf> If so, I'd like to revisit dhanesh95's earlier idea of breaking it up into "teams" or partners or whatever we want to call it. :)
17:12:15 <x3mboy> I will work with #70 only, I have a lot of things with marketing, taking more will be irresponsible from me
17:12:21 <jwf> dhanesh95: I'm feeling the same way.
17:12:37 <jwf> x3mboy: Awesome. That's a big ticket too, so I think that's something that makes total sense.
17:12:56 <jwf> bee2502: I would be interested in us revisiting them, although it might be something aided by if we had overlapping contributors.
17:13:05 <x3mboy> jwf, also FLISoL is coming and from ambassadors in latam is a big day, with a lot of work
17:13:07 <dhanesh95> bee2502: I can help with onboarding tickets. I've done one before.
17:13:11 <jwf> Laptop about to suspend on battery, brb
17:13:17 <x3mboy> s/from/for/g
17:14:05 <x3mboy> I will be reading team, but I really need to take lunch
17:14:05 <bee2502> jwf : I was thinking a hack session soon for onboarding and figuring out a plan. dhanesh95 would you be interested ?
17:14:47 <dhanesh95> bee2502: Definitely interested as long as hack sessions are managed considering IST. :P
17:15:07 <jwf> x3mboy: Ooh, yeah! That will be a lot of work but a lot of fun. :) Sounds like it will keep your hands busy.
17:15:20 <bee2502> dhanesh95 : I am in IST too
17:15:22 <jwf> x3mboy: Before you go–
17:15:35 <jwf> x3mboy: Pending further discussion about how we move forward, are you comfortable with "owning" #70?
17:15:58 <dhanesh95> bee2502: Awesome. Count me in.
17:16:32 <jwf> I would definitely love to make hack sessions a returning thing again. Especially given in the next month, I think those would be valuable opportunities for us to get a lot of planning out of the way.
17:16:46 <Questre> Excuse --   FLISoL?   IST?  Am not understanding the acronyms....
17:16:48 <jwf> For context too, I'm not sure if everyone has seen this, but I wanted to share it again for transparency: https://blog.justinwflory.com/2017/04/stepping-out-fedora-may-august-2017/
17:16:59 <jwf> Questre: Good questions :)
17:17:21 <x3mboy> Yes I am
17:17:26 <bee2502> Questre : IST - Indian standard time. :)
17:17:33 <jwf> Questre: FLISoL (from what I understand) is a major festival / international event held throughout Latin America and South America to celebrate Free and Open Source Software.
17:17:37 <jwf> And bee2502 got IST :)
17:17:50 <x3mboy> Questre, Festival Lationamericano de Instalación de Software Libre
17:18:03 <x3mboy> Is a big Install Fest in Lationamerica region
17:18:18 <x3mboy> s/Is/It\'s/g
17:18:20 <jwf> x3mboy: Okay, thanks. I will assign this ticket to you and we will find time to discuss it later. If we can steal some of your time for a hack session (i.e. a short or long audio/video call to collaborate together on tasks), it would be a good idea for us to do that. :)
17:18:31 <jwf> #action jwf Assign ticket #70 to x3mboy
17:18:47 <x3mboy> jwf, well, we have call on telegram now :D
17:18:57 <jwf> x3mboy: Ahh, yeah, could give that a shot!
17:18:59 * jwf forgot about that
17:19:19 <jwf> (Time check - we're just past halfway through)
17:20:07 <dhanesh95> Woah! jwf will be away for a considerable amount of time. This is scary.
17:20:18 <jwf> So, to reel it back in… I think that we have a lot of good ideas of things to keep us busy for a fair bit of time. That list is also subject to change, like the on-boarding series tickets, for example, but I think this is a good roadmap of tasks for now. :)
17:20:35 <jwf> dhanesh95: It will be very weird for me too.
17:21:31 <jwf> So, I want to write up a short proposal about some of the things we just discussed, and take a quick vote.
17:21:38 <x3mboy> Ok
17:21:40 <x3mboy> +1
17:23:56 <jwf> #proposed CommOps will put tickets #70, #88, #92, future#108 (geographic-based metrics), eventually #107 on the roadmap.
17:23:58 <x3mboy> Is there a metric about Market share of fedora?
17:24:42 <jwf> x3mboy: The question of a lifetime. :) There's some data about how Fedora is doing on its own in mattdm's State of Fedora presentation (link can be dug up), but I know DistroWatch has some kind of measure of distro popularity
17:25:10 <jwf> (I think we actually did agree on the previous, so I'll go ahead and notate it as that, and now let's figure out how we want to break this down.)
17:25:20 <jwf> #agreed Putting tickets #70, #88, #92, future#108 (geographic-based metrics), eventually #107 on the roadmap
17:25:27 <x3mboy> #idea Measure downloads hits per arch, spin and labs
17:26:06 <jwf> x3mboy: This is definitely something we are collecting (but /me doesn't remember how, if bee2502 or skamath don't know, then it might be a threebean question).
17:26:29 <x3mboy> jwf, I will research it later
17:26:31 <x3mboy> Thanks
17:26:32 <jwf> So as far as how these tickets are broken up…
17:26:38 * skamath is not aware of the market share stuff.
17:26:39 <jwf> x3mboy: +1, sounds good to me. :)
17:26:53 <jwf> x3mboy has already volunteered to focus strongly on #70, which makes sense
17:27:05 <jwf> I know bee2502 is working on #88 and I also assume helping with #108.
17:27:16 <jwf> #92 is something I'd like to try to involve as many people in as possible. :)
17:27:33 <bee2502> x3mboy : I think it's more related to marketing. mattdm has some stats about downloads in his slides
17:27:37 <jwf> But for all of these things, I do think it will be helpful to have someone to "own" the ticket and help work on making progress on these tasks.
17:28:01 <bee2502> I can own #88 and #108
17:28:02 <x3mboy> Excelent, that shapes at least one month of work
17:28:19 <Rhea> hi
17:28:21 <skamath> bee2502, 108 gives me 404.
17:28:32 <x3mboy> Rhea, o/
17:28:34 <skamath> Is the issue number right?
17:28:39 * skamath waves to Rhea
17:28:39 <dhanesh95> Rhea: o/
17:28:43 <dhanesh95> #chair Rhea
17:28:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea bee2502 bexelbie dhanesh95 jwf skamath x3mboy
17:28:49 <bee2502> skamath : it's not been created :P
17:29:04 <dhanesh95> skamath: Future#108
17:29:06 <skamath> Ah, I see.
17:29:08 <x3mboy> future#108
17:29:10 <jwf> dhanesh95 / skamath: Do either of you have anything you're leaning heavier towards?
17:29:10 <x3mboy> xD
17:29:16 * jwf waves to Rhea :)
17:29:33 <skamath> jwf, you can assign me any metrics tickets :)
17:29:40 <jwf> #action bee2502 File ticket #108 on geographic-based metrics :)
17:29:55 <skamath> Can pick up anything that is left out
17:29:58 <dhanesh95> jwf: Not at this point of time.
17:29:59 <jwf> skamath: Cool, so I imagine you and bee2502 will be tag-teaming a fair bit on this, especially with GSoC activities too.
17:30:08 * jwf nods to dhanesh95
17:30:11 <skamath> nod nod. That's the plan.
17:30:29 <bee2502> skamath do you want me to assign #108 to you ?
17:30:44 <jwf> So what I can do for the time I have left is take on driving #92 for the Fedora Appreciation Week, since I have a debt to pay on sharing some ideas from the Diversity FAD about this specific thing
17:30:46 <skamath> I'll work on it :)
17:30:57 <skamath> bee2502, Please do.
17:31:02 <jwf> But I'll want to pass that along at the start of May once it's a little more clear how we're proceeding.
17:31:04 <dhanesh95> skamath and bee2502 can team up on metrics.  jwf and a couple of others can work on #92 and dhanesh95 and x3mboy will work on #70. Sounds good
17:31:10 <dhanesh95> ?
17:31:24 <jwf> dhanesh95: This sounds excellent to me, was about to propose the same. :)
17:31:26 <skamath> dhanesh95++
17:32:03 <x3mboy> jwf, for the fedora appreciation week, we can use happiness packages, no?
17:32:17 <x3mboy> I just receive my first one, it was pretty cool
17:32:29 <jwf> #agreed dhanesh95 and x3mboy will collaborate on the FOSS Student Pack (#70). skamath and bee2502 will collaborate on the metrics-related tickets and also the GSoC slot this summer. jwf will take on Fedora Appreciation Week (#92) up until around week of May 8
17:32:32 <x3mboy> danofsatx,
17:32:37 <x3mboy> oops
17:32:43 <x3mboy> dhanesh95++
17:32:49 <jwf> x3mboy: I would *love* to make that something we use as part of the Appreciation Week :)
17:33:07 <jwf> Definitely for the short-term of putting it together this year with the resources we have available now
17:33:16 <Questre> Er, #92.  Is it a week or a day?
17:33:34 <jwf> Questre: The ticket is currently listed as a Day, but I will update it to be a Week. :)
17:33:46 <jwf> Questre: There is some background context to this specific ticket from the Fedora Diversity FAD event report.
17:33:52 <jwf> And also, another acronym breakdown:
17:34:00 <Rhea> jwf: i'm up for appreciation thing
17:34:04 <jwf> FAD == Fedora Activity Day, which is basically like a team sprint held in person.
17:34:21 <jwf> Rhea: Awesome, I would love to tag-team you on this too and also pull in some of the other Diversity Team members like Amita and jonatoni. :)
17:34:24 <jwf> Rhea++
17:34:35 <dhanesh95> Rhea++
17:35:13 <dhanesh95> Rhea's "How do you Fedora?" article was quite interesting.
17:35:21 <jwf> Questre: If you scroll down a bit here, you'll see the section about Fedora Appreciation Week. This is part of the task I need to do to take some of those ideas and what it's in that blog post and organize it a little better into a plan to share in the ticket. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity-fad-2017/
17:35:38 <jwf> But the post will definitely add some context to what is "current" with #92. :)
17:36:12 <Rhea> i use fedora to order cookies online
17:36:12 * jwf notes we're in the last 25 minutes here, and I did have a special thing to bring up for Open Floor
17:36:26 * jonatoni says hello to all :)
17:36:31 <x3mboy> jonatoni, o/
17:36:40 <jwf> Rhea: But hopefully not a Unicorn Poop cookie: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/unicorn-poop-cookie-vi
17:36:48 <x3mboy> dhanesh95, +1, It was really interesting
17:36:49 <jwf> jonatoni: Hey Jona! :)
17:37:08 <dhanesh95> .moar cookies Rhea
17:37:08 <zodbot> here Rhea, have some more cookies
17:37:22 <Rhea> o.o
17:37:37 <jwf> Okay. So do folks feel good about how these things are broken up now? I know we didn't spend a lot of time specifically on the "how", but I think this organization will be helpful for us!
17:37:57 <jwf> If we feel good about this now, I'd like to hit the CommBlog really fast, and then bring up two things for open floor.
17:37:59 <x3mboy> jwf, it's ok
17:38:07 <jwf> Does anyone want to bring anything else up related to tickets?
17:38:07 <x3mboy> The How can be discussed in the regular channel
17:38:08 <bee2502> ok
17:38:11 <jwf> Going once…
17:38:12 <dhanesh95> +1. Each team can decide on further tasks among themselves to move the tickets forward
17:38:14 <jwf> x3mboy: +1 :)
17:38:25 <jwf> Going twice…
17:38:36 <jwf> Going thrice…
17:38:40 <dhanesh95> Sold!
17:38:45 <jwf> #topic Community Blog
17:38:50 <jwf> #info How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go!
17:38:59 <jwf> #info === This Week in CommBlog ===
17:39:01 <jwf> #info (1) "Mission to understand: Fedora Diversity FAD 2017" - jflory7
17:39:04 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity-fad-2017/
17:39:09 <jwf> #info Total Views (April 10 - April 11): 74
17:39:14 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=3666
17:39:19 <jwf> #info (2) "Participate in Fedora 26 translation sprint" - pravins++
17:39:19 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for pravins changed to 4 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:39:25 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-26-translation-sprint/
17:39:30 <jwf> #info Total Views (April 10 - April 11): 316
17:39:36 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=3706
17:39:43 <jwf> #info (3) "Fedora Council FAD Report – 2017/2018 Initial Steps" - bexelbie++
17:39:48 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-council-fad-2017-report/
17:39:52 <jwf> #info Total Views (April 11): 73
17:39:59 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=3692
17:40:03 <jwf> #info === Coming Up in CommBlog ===
17:40:10 <jwf> #info (1) "Fedora at Technologix 2017"
17:40:15 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3647&preview=1&_ppp=ccf4d8ed4f
17:40:21 <jwf> #info (2) "Fedora User Handbook"
17:40:26 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3688&preview=1&_ppp=6a9574e678
17:40:31 <jwf> #info (3) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F26 Alpha"
17:40:35 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3716&preview=1&_ppp=e7961702f9
17:40:40 <jwf> #info (4) "[Test Day Report] Anaconda Blivet GUI"
17:40:45 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3733&preview=1&_ppp=b2ff8cf18e
17:41:01 <jwf> #action jwf Continue working on new editor guidelines for how folks can help with editing / scheduling articles
17:41:12 <jwf> And that's all for CommBlog :)
17:41:14 <jwf> #topic Open Floor
17:41:32 <jwf> Okay. I have two big things to share. Before those, does anyone else want to throw something out for open floor?
17:41:47 <dhanesh95> *drum roll*
17:42:16 <Rhea> I do
17:42:23 <jwf> Rhea: Go for it!
17:42:24 * Rhea throws out some cookies
17:42:31 <Rhea> That's all, thanks
17:42:33 * jwf should have guessed! ;)
17:42:48 <Rhea> You asked for throwing something *shrugs innocently*
17:43:00 <dhanesh95> XD
17:43:07 * jwf would give Rhea another cookie, but he has to wait until Fedora 26 for that. :) (Same for about everyone in this channel…)
17:43:11 <jwf> Okay, so—
17:43:16 <misc> rhea++
17:43:16 <zodbot> misc: Karma for rhea changed to 14 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:43:24 <dhanesh95> Rhea++
17:43:26 * Rhea noms a cookie
17:43:26 <jwf> misc took care of it for me ;)
17:43:31 <jwf> First thing I wanted to pitch was bringing a hack session up in the next week.
17:43:41 <jwf> But first!
17:43:51 <jwf> Since it has been a **really** long time since we've done one…
17:43:54 <jwf> What is a hack session??
17:44:01 <jwf> #idea Let's try having another CommOps hack session!
17:44:03 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hack_session
17:44:34 <x3mboy> rhea++
17:44:56 <jwf> We used to do semi-regular audio/video calls once a week (sometimes as short as 30 minutes, sometimes as long as 2 hours with people coming in and out when they're free), but it's a great time for us to discuss over voice about things we're working on, make progress on issues, and ask for help when and where we need it.
17:44:58 <skamath> It's been really long since we had a hack session.
17:45:02 <skamath> Almost forgot about it
17:45:16 <skamath> jwf, +1. Looking forward to it :D
17:45:17 <pravins> jwb: thanks :)
17:45:32 <jwf> Obviously, there are problems with this since we are quite literally distributed across all of the most inconvenient time zones as could be possible, BUT! We can be flexible and alternate times for different weeks too.
17:45:40 <jwf> skamath: It has been a while :)
17:45:47 <pravins> jwf++
17:45:47 <zodbot> pravins: Karma for jflory7 changed to 32 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:45:49 <jwf> And I think for this next month, it would be very valuable for us to have them
17:46:00 <jwf> pravins: Whooo, and thank you ;)
17:46:13 <skamath> +1
17:46:22 <x3mboy> +1
17:46:27 <x3mboy> It sounds pretty cool
17:46:32 <dhanesh95> +1
17:46:35 <jwf> By a show of interest, who is interesting in hopping into a hack session to work on CommOps tasks for maybe an hour this week?
17:46:50 * jwf is partially biased towards Thursday
17:46:51 <pravins> jwf++👍
17:46:54 <dhanesh95> A thousand times yes
17:46:59 <jwf> dhanesh95: :)
17:47:08 <bee2502> me
17:47:18 <jwf> Is Thursday a good day for folks? Are there any times on Thursday that would not work?
17:47:28 * jwf pulls out his time zone calculator next
17:47:52 <dhanesh95> Thursday is good.
17:47:53 <skamath> Works for me.
17:48:22 <skamath> I might be travelling on Thursday though.
17:48:37 <Questre> I'm game for Thurs.  Sounds fun.  :)
17:49:01 <skamath> Friday is a holiday here so I'll be heading home. If it's on Thursday, I'll catch up later.
17:49:11 <Rhea> I'm in some meetings between 17:00 and 20:00 so as long as it's not there I'm fine
17:49:30 <x3mboy> Yes
17:49:33 <skamath> jwf, a WhenIsGood sounds like a good idea.
17:50:01 <x3mboy> LOL
17:50:07 <x3mboy> time zone calculator
17:50:17 <Questre> We all speaking UCT now?
17:50:35 <jwf> Questre: Would love to have you there too! Been a while since we've done a hack session, but they're a lot of fun and were helpful for me when I first got involved
17:50:37 <jwf> decause++
17:50:37 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for decause changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:50:39 <x3mboy> Questre, We should, or some tz used in USA
17:50:46 <skamath> decause++ for sure :)
17:50:49 <zodbot> skamath: Karma for decause changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:51:03 <jwf> Questre: UTC is probably the best language to speak :)
17:51:11 <jwf> Rhea: Is that UTC or CEST?
17:51:40 * jwf would prefer doing it an earlier time in western hemisphere / CEST to be courteous to those in IST time
17:51:46 <dhanesh95> decause++
17:51:46 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for decause changed to 3 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:52:07 <jwf> Okay, how about this, I'll throw out a time and let's see if that works.
17:52:07 <Rhea> eu
17:52:09 <jwf> Questre: What time zone are you in, for reference?
17:52:15 <Rhea> jwf: cest
17:52:25 <Rhea> do we do the...
17:52:39 <x3mboy> For me is ok any time out from the 21:00 to 23:00 UTC
17:52:45 <jwf> Rhea: Okay, noted, I think we can avoid those times because some IST folks will likely be getting ready to sleep
17:52:54 <Questre> US CDT here, thanks.
17:52:57 <jwf> x3mboy: Excluding those times, right?
17:53:00 <jwf> Questre: Okay, good to know!
17:53:01 <x3mboy> Yes
17:53:06 * jwf goes to make a quick time zone calculation
17:53:37 <x3mboy> At that time I'm moving from work to my son's school and finally to my home
17:53:46 <Rhea> yup that's what i thought as well
17:54:04 <x3mboy> That's why magazine meetings are being a little hard right now
17:54:18 <jwf> #proposed Hack session on Thursday, 2017 April 13 at 14:00 UTC (09:00 US CT, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST)
17:54:21 <jwf> +1
17:54:35 <x3mboy> +1
17:54:43 <dhanesh95> +1
17:54:47 <skamath> +0, I might miss out but I'll catch up :)
17:54:48 <x3mboy> Fits perfectly for me
17:55:00 <Rhea> +2 (one for skamath)
17:55:05 <skamath> xD
17:55:07 * Rhea grins
17:55:11 <bee2502> 0 , I can join a bit late.
17:55:17 <jwf> lolol. skamath: To clarify though, if we do this time again, it's a one-time conflict this week?
17:55:20 <x3mboy> Oh and it will be this Thursday, I'm free at my work that day :D
17:55:32 <x3mboy> I will be free
17:55:33 <jwf> bee2502: Sounds good, I anticipate a solid hour of hacks
17:55:36 <skamath> jwf, Yes. As I said, Friday is a holiday this week.
17:55:39 <skamath> I can make it next week
17:55:43 <jwf> Questre: Is this a good time for you as well?
17:55:46 <skamath> I'll try to be on IRC though
17:55:57 <jwf> skamath: Okay, cool, it seems like this could be a good time for us to follow for the rest of the month
17:56:00 * x3mboy is thinking: What is going on with my English?
17:56:09 <skamath> +1
17:56:12 <Questre> Hack session done on IRC and/or some other form of media?
17:56:20 * skamath reclaims his vote from Rhea
17:56:47 <jwf> Questre: It might be a BlueJeans or a Google Hangouts call. We usually do have an IRC side too, though, for people who either can't join in via audio and also as a place to link drop
17:56:48 <x3mboy> Questre, meet at IRC and from there move to a video/sound session, I think
17:56:51 <Questre> Yes, good time, thanks.
17:56:59 <jwf> Oh, awesome!!!!!
17:57:09 <jwf> On first pick, we just coordinated across three sides of the planet!
17:57:11 <jwf> Nice!!!!
17:57:15 <Rhea> >_<
17:57:16 <jwf> When does this ever happen????
17:57:22 <x3mboy> Cool
17:57:32 <jwf> Okay, cool, so I'm gonna log it:
17:57:32 <skamath> jwf++
17:57:38 <x3mboy> "Teamwork" is called in some parts of this planet
17:57:41 <jwf> #agreed Hack session on Thursday, 2017 April 13 at 14:00 UTC (09:00 US CT, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST)
17:57:47 <jwf> x3mboy: :D
17:57:49 <skamath> .moar timezone_warrior_badge jwf
17:57:49 <zodbot> here jwf, have some more timezone_warrior_badge
17:58:07 <jwf> #action jwf Share the hack session details on the mailing list
17:58:14 <jwf> Okay, awesome. :)
17:58:41 <jwf> The second thing I wanted to cover was about finding a new chair for the meetings, but we can either talk about this in the hack session or postpone to next week.
17:58:50 <jwf> The KDE SIG has this channel after us, and our time expires in two minutes. :)
17:58:57 <jwf> Anything else that we want to cover here?
17:59:05 <x3mboy> eof for me
17:59:07 <jwf> (Super awesome meeting today, this was great! commops++ )
17:59:15 <x3mboy> And I need to catch up with KDE SIG too, so...
17:59:15 <jwf> eof for me
17:59:20 <skamath> eof for me.
17:59:30 <jwf> CommOps, going once…
17:59:33 <x3mboy> GTHOOH!!!!
17:59:34 <x3mboy> :D
17:59:40 <jwf> Going twice…
17:59:45 <jwf> Going thrice…
17:59:56 <jwf> Thanks for coming out today, everyone! See you on Thursday…
17:59:57 <dhanesh95> jwf++
17:59:58 <skamath> Thank you jwf for chairing :)
18:00:01 <jwf> #endmeeting