18:00:12 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
18:00:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 22 18:00:12 2017 UTC.  The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:12 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:12 <smooge> #chair smooge nirik Evolution bstinson avij
18:00:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:00:12 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:19 <nirik> morning
18:00:28 <smooge> Hello humans, bots and other elder things
18:00:36 <avij> hello
18:01:00 <smooge> I have not seen Evolution or bstinson so this may be a short meeting
18:02:18 <smooge> #topic old business
18:02:19 <smooge> #info charter was put into git
18:02:19 <smooge> #info old web pages deleted
18:02:51 <smooge> So I got the charter into the pagure.io/epel I will forward it to the council in a week if there is no extra input
18:03:16 <smooge> The first round of dead pages on the wiki were put into archive mode
18:03:26 <smooge> I will try to finish cleaning them out next week or so
18:04:05 <smooge> finish cleaning out == I will go throuhg the remaining pages and work out which ones are also dead info and which ones are useful but need updates
18:04:25 <smooge> I will then try to put the updated docs in the git repo as rst items
18:04:46 <smooge> Anyone else have old business for EPEL?
18:05:23 <nirik> nothing from me.
18:05:36 <smooge> ok next topic
18:05:37 <avij> thanks for the work. I wish I had more time to help with this :-/
18:05:45 <smooge> #topic Selinux policy has silently changed.
18:06:18 <nirik> yeah. ;( Could we perhaps get them to announce this somewhere? they only seem to be saying it in bugs...
18:06:28 <smooge> So I ran into this today with some updates with nrpe and nagios. It looks like the new policy for packages needing selinux has changed
18:06:47 <smooge> nirik, is that a FESCO leaning on them thing? I have no idea how to contact them other than through bugzilla
18:07:04 <orc_fedo> smooge: could you please mention a bug number demonstrating this?
18:07:29 <nirik> nothing to do with fesco
18:07:43 <nirik> the selinux-policy maintainers seem to have just decided this themselves...
18:08:03 <smooge> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1359858
18:08:06 <smooge> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELinux/IndependentPolicy
18:08:12 <orc_fedo> smooge: ty
18:08:20 <nirik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1359061
18:08:34 <smooge> nirik, I wasn't sure how the hierarchy for packaging policy changes goes
18:08:49 <orc_fedo> nirik: ty as well
18:09:15 <nirik> well, they are maintainers and can do what they like with their packages, but this is a change from how its always been...
18:09:25 <nirik> so at least they should let people know about it.
18:09:46 <smooge> I know the policy maintainers have the right to do what they want but if glibc decided to repackage everything in /fitzyoufedora/ that would go to Fesco
18:10:17 <nirik> sure.
18:10:42 <nirik> we could bring it to fesco, but would be good to let them explain their reasoning or why it's changing first...
18:11:02 <nirik> and is this just epel? or also fedora?
18:11:08 <nirik> unclear
18:11:41 <smooge> I don't know. I went looking in Fedora and saw various -selinux packages in the latest Fedora releases so I am guessing it is moving that way?
18:12:01 <smooge> but yeah. I will draft and send out an email after this meeting
18:12:46 <smooge> OK has anyone else anything on this? Like "remember to tell them about bug XXXX too"
18:13:02 <smooge> #topic RHEL-6.9 released
18:13:35 <avij> CentOS 6.9 packages are currently being built (no surprise here)
18:14:11 <smooge> OK RHEL-6.9 was released this week. It seems to have pulled in more packages from EPEL so we will need to remove them from EPEL soon
18:14:35 <avij> bleve filed a bunch of removal requests today
18:14:43 <smooge> what avij said :)
18:14:48 <smooge> bleve++ thank you
18:15:25 <smooge> beyond that this is supposedly the last of the major change RHEL-6 releases
18:15:32 <nirik> yep.
18:15:43 <nirik> and the end is near for 5. ;)
18:15:46 <smooge> everything after this is going to be just plain old patches
18:15:59 <smooge> speaking of which
18:16:01 <smooge> #topic RHEL-5.11 EOL
18:16:02 <smooge> #info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8nY_LQL3w
18:16:28 <smooge> We will be ending EPEL-5 next week. I have put in a ticket to releng to cover their closing builds for it.
18:16:56 * nirik waves a farewell. You were great at the time. ;)
18:16:59 <smooge> It has been a long good trip with EPEL-5. Thanks to everyone who has worked on it
18:18:00 <smooge> Are there any questions on that?
18:18:50 <orc_fedo> smooge: less funereal night be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqTYp1GGGtk
18:19:55 <smooge> or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
18:20:03 <smooge> #topic open floor
18:20:24 <smooge> ok this is looking to be a nice short meeting
18:20:38 <smooge> I can close it out in 1-2 minutes.
18:20:47 <smooge> Thanks for everyone who came and piped up
18:20:49 <orc_fedo> dark, very dark --- you need to have Sunlight pumped in to you
18:21:57 <nirik> :)
18:22:03 <smooge> ok pager going off like crazy
18:22:06 <nirik> Oh, I was going to mention one thing...
18:22:15 <smooge> ... ok
18:22:19 <smooge> steve jobs
18:22:50 <nirik> there's been a libgit2 change.
18:22:52 <nirik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434892
18:23:03 <nirik> the maintainer seems a bit snarky about it...
18:24:05 <nirik> anyhow, just wanted to note it.
18:24:11 <nirik> Hopefully it will get sorted out.
18:25:05 <avij> that sounds nice and friendly
18:26:13 <nirik> yeah. ;(
18:26:28 <smooge> wow.
18:26:51 <smooge> ok some people need a nap and some Mr Rogers
18:27:16 <smooge> thanks for that point. I see you already replied. Hopefully we can sort it out
18:27:27 <smooge> anything else?
18:28:03 <nirik> nope
18:28:07 <avij> nope
18:28:51 <smooge> #endmeeting