22:00:16 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
22:00:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 23 22:00:16 2017 UTC.  The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:00:17 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
22:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
22:00:22 <jwf> .hello jflory7
22:00:22 <stickster> #topic Roll call
22:00:22 <stickster> .hello pfrields
22:00:22 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
22:00:25 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
22:01:18 <jwf> Good evening, all :)
22:01:52 <stickster> #chair jwf ryanlerch
22:01:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf ryanlerch stickster
22:01:55 <stickster> hi all!
22:02:17 <stickster> jwf: I might be a little slow here for a few minutes, having a budget conversation with a colleague atm
22:02:28 <jwf> Okay, no worries.
22:02:31 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
22:02:32 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'Ryan Lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
22:02:50 <stickster> It concerns overall Fedora HW so it's important enough :-)
22:03:03 * jwf has no qualms :)
22:04:49 * jwf had just taken a quick peek at this: https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/pull-request/88
22:07:35 <stickster> OK, I'm back
22:07:44 <stickster> looks like just us chickens
22:07:48 <stickster> #topic Last week review
22:08:41 <jwf> Works for me. :)
22:08:42 <stickster> So last week was the biggest week since December
22:08:50 <ryanlerch> wow! really?
22:08:54 <jwf> Whoa!
22:08:59 <stickster> #info 58,115 views last week, most since December
22:09:14 <jwf> That's fantastic news!
22:09:24 <stickster> If we keep cadence, we might make Feb (a shorter month) close to January #s
22:09:25 <jwf> stickster++ for carrying a lot of the weight last week…
22:10:28 <stickster> Feb so far = 175K views, so we could top 200K if we try
22:10:44 <stickster> Shall we look at the queue?
22:10:56 <ryanlerch> stickster: good idea!
22:11:24 <jwf> Sounds good to me, I was taking a peek ahead to see what we had to keep the cadence :)
22:13:01 <stickster> #topic Pending Review
22:13:11 * stickster stops trying to multitask
22:13:29 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
22:13:30 * jwf is fervently updating some drafts to pending reviews, so a refresh in a couple minutes might be needed :)
22:14:27 <stickster> #info --- GNOME notifications to the max ---
22:14:37 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16496&preview=1&_ppp=8cd8657265
22:15:20 <stickster> This article mainly needs editing just for language... one thing to avoid is "I" in these articles, the Magazine should refer to itself rarely, and if so, "we" is more appropriate
22:15:59 * stickster has some time tonight to edit, and could take this one
22:16:41 <ryanlerch> this one could also benefit from some screenshots
22:16:59 <jwf> Yeah, I think it's mostly language – the author popped into channel a couple of days ago and said he might need some help since he was not a native speaker. I also think some visual aids would make this much nicer to read. :)
22:17:16 <jwf> We could probably ask for some screenshots from the author for some of them, or we could try to take them ourselves.
22:17:19 <jwf> ryanlerch++
22:17:44 <ryanlerch> we also have a couple of old featured images we could reuse for this one too
22:17:46 <ryanlerch> https://cdn.fedoramagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/notifications-600x254.png
22:18:08 <ryanlerch> https://cdn.fedoramagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/terminal-notifications.png
22:18:23 <ryanlerch> or i could do up a fresh oday
22:19:01 <ryanlerch> stickster: what do you think about the title?
22:19:40 <ryanlerch> maybe something like "getting the most out of your notificaitons?" would be better?
22:19:50 <stickster> ryanlerch: needs a tweak
22:20:06 <stickster> ryanlerch: that's a good suggestion!
22:20:24 <jwf> +1 to ryanlerch's suggestion from me.
22:20:32 <stickster> maybe "getting the most out of GNOME notifications"?  Or are some of these suggestions for non-GNOME stack?
22:20:43 <stickster> I think the GNOME tends to help attract
22:21:48 <ryanlerch> stickster: sounds good to me!
22:21:58 <jwf> Yeah, with regards to searchability too, would probably help.
22:22:07 <jwf> It's definitely GNOME-heavy on my readthrough
22:22:19 <stickster> Cool
22:22:38 <ryanlerch> was this one shceduled already?
22:22:47 <ryanlerch> or are we thinking early next week?
22:23:18 <jwf> Might be better to figure out dates after seeing what all we have in the pending queue.
22:23:23 <jwf> There's a fair number of articles in there.
22:23:23 <stickster> *nod
22:23:40 <stickster> #idea I don't think we have anything for tomorrow yet
22:24:00 <jwf> There's a Python one that could be timely
22:24:09 <jwf> But I need to give it a full read to be sure
22:24:35 <jwf> I also believe cprofitt had planned for his Gitlab / Pelican article to be ready for tomorrow as well
22:24:41 <jwf> So maybe we should cover that one next.
22:25:04 <stickster> #info -- Gitlab/Pelican --
22:25:13 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16517&preview=1&_ppp=1a337d1d52
22:25:14 <jwf> It's looking pretty solid, but still reading
22:25:41 <stickster> The header image is a little busy but I like the idea of combining these concepts as logos
22:26:48 <jwf> stickster: Yeah, I left a comment in the PR for that, but we can maybe make a quick revision if we want to ship it for tomorrow.
22:26:51 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/pull-request/88
22:27:06 <stickster> ryanlerch: ^ maybe that's something worthwhile
22:27:20 <stickster> I think this article will need less editing overall, so we could schedule it for tomorrow
22:27:25 <ryanlerch> i could jump in an unbusy the image
22:27:35 <ryanlerch> not sure if charles would mind though
22:28:33 <jwf> I think this one would be an easy one to tidy up for tomorrow. My suggestions would be to maybe combine some of the earlier headings together into a more common grouping, consistent capitalization of project names (e.g. Gitlab vs. GitLab, not sure what upstream prefers), but otherwise, this is looking solid to me.
22:29:14 <jwf> ryanlerch: You might be able to grab him in channel in another couple of hours (if I remember, this meeting sometimes collides with his commute time), but I don't feel like he would mind for the purpose of getting it ready for tomorrow.
22:29:30 <jwf> Maybe just passing along the feedback in #88 and getting that PR merged with the MindMap image too. :)
22:29:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: They have an approved "lock only" Letsencrypt logo
22:29:43 <stickster> https://letsencrypt.org/trademarks/
22:30:28 <stickster> #action stickster edit this article after meeting
22:30:50 <jwf> This one is looking solid to me for content, just finished a full read
22:30:56 <stickster> #action ryanlerch check in with cproffitt about image tweak
22:31:02 <stickster> jwf: agreed!
22:31:04 <jwf> I'm definitely leaning towards a +1 for this being the Friday article
22:31:05 <stickster> cproffitt++
22:31:09 <stickster> +1
22:31:50 <jwf> cprofitt++
22:32:02 <stickster> Anything else in review queue?
22:32:15 <jwf> Yeah, three more, actually!
22:32:17 <stickster> Ah yes indeed!!!!
22:32:32 <jwf> I moved them over after peeking in drafts. :)
22:32:40 <stickster> #info --- IBus ---
22:32:58 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16322&preview=1&_ppp=f9809da49b
22:33:19 * jwf reading
22:33:21 <stickster> This one will take some time to edit. I could do it this weekend but not before.
22:33:25 * stickster just skimmed
22:33:58 <stickster> I'm familiar with Pravin's other writing, coverage looks solid; it's just ESL issues
22:34:23 <ryanlerch> i can do the featured image for this one too
22:34:42 <jwf> Pravin had also requested if it would be possible to GIF-ify these screenshots – he had asked on the list but wasn't sure how.
22:34:59 <stickster> Oh, ryanlerch is the expert on that
22:35:10 * ryanlerch has a script
22:35:12 * jwf needs to figure out how ryanlerch does it so easily so he can also do it :D
22:35:12 <ryanlerch> :)
22:35:12 <stickster> He may have put something in a page on the site to explain it
22:35:21 <stickster> or if not... hint hint ^ :-D
22:36:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: If you have time, that would be super helpful... I could conceivably edit this for Monday... I can usually get Magazine work done more easily between Fri-Mon and not so much the rest of the week
22:36:32 <jwf> This is one I could also do the editing for over the weekend
22:36:46 <jwf> But I would definitely appreciate some help for maybe condensing some of the screenshots into a GIF
22:36:52 <ryanlerch> #info https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MtNRwvMKl~XQZUuSMRGz9l5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
22:37:02 * stickster happy to step back
22:37:12 <ryanlerch> there is some gtk stuff in there that doesnt do anything
22:37:21 <ryanlerch> but that is how i do them
22:37:29 <jwf> Oh, nice! So just run the script?
22:37:41 <ryanlerch> yeah, then select the area to record
22:37:59 <ryanlerch> then just ctrl+c the script when you are done
22:38:12 <ryanlerch> i think you only get about 10secs to record though
22:38:20 * jwf nods
22:38:26 <ryanlerch> it just uses byzanz-record
22:38:46 <jwf> Okay, then I would be more than happy to donate some free time to stickster's weekend by taking this one on.
22:38:51 <ryanlerch> which doesnt work on highdpi screens (or wayland IRIRC)
22:38:55 <jwf> We can maybe figure out dates after the other two pending articles
22:39:05 <stickster> #action jwf edit this article
22:39:19 <stickster> #action jwf and ryanlerch get the dialog shots GIF'd
22:39:26 <ryanlerch> #action ryanlerch to do featured image
22:39:35 <jwf> +1
22:39:43 <stickster> #info --- Python 3.6 in F26 ---
22:39:46 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16632&preview=1&_ppp=1dbb00a3ec
22:40:04 * jwf goes to do a quick read
22:40:55 <stickster> Looks like another fairly easy edit, and a great topic
22:41:10 <ryanlerch> stickster: +10 this is a good one!
22:41:37 <ryanlerch> i can do the featured image for it too
22:41:40 <stickster> #action stickster edit Python 3.6 article
22:41:42 <jwf> Agreed as well for this one :)
22:41:54 <stickster> #action ryanlerch whip up yet another beeyootiful pikshur
22:42:31 <stickster> ryanlerch: I hope you noticed my attempt to be cool on https://fedoramagazine.org/install-supplemental-wallpapers/
22:42:54 <ryanlerch> stickster: ooooooh pretty!
22:43:27 <stickster> I was proud of the reflection, though I didn't know how to warp it on the water, or take the time to mask it behind the foreground reeds
22:44:00 <stickster> someday I'll know more tricks :-D
22:44:39 <stickster> #info --- Automate building Atomic Host ---
22:44:42 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=16437&preview=1&_ppp=4cd6aca81e
22:45:06 <ryanlerch> ahead of the game on this one -- already done the image :D
22:45:08 <stickster> This looks brilliant, another trishnag masterpiece
22:45:19 <stickster> nice!
22:45:28 <jwf> Looks like ryanlerch gave trishnag some feedback on this one, and she added the introduction. trishnag++
22:45:50 <stickster> trishnag++
22:45:51 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for trishnag changed to 5 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:45:59 <jwf> Definitely looking like an awesome article :)
22:46:03 <ryanlerch> trishnag++
22:47:47 <stickster> jwf: do you want to pick this one up for editing later in the week?
22:47:52 <jwf> Can do!
22:47:59 <jwf> Was about to volunteer for it.
22:48:02 <stickster> #action jwf edit the Atomic Host article
22:48:08 <stickster> That's it for review
22:48:19 <jwf> Maybe now for the last 10 minutes, we figure out the schedule?
22:48:30 <stickster> agreed
22:48:34 <ryanlerch> +1
22:48:45 <stickster> and we can use the list to run down folks for some of the drafts/pitches still pending
22:49:07 <ryanlerch> there seemed to be a flurry of new writers / pitches this week
22:49:15 <stickster> I think the editing on cproffitt's article is definitely lightest
22:49:22 <stickster> oops
22:49:23 <jwf> Yeah, a lot of activity to keep up with!
22:49:38 * jwf has an idea of what the schedule could look like
22:49:39 <stickster> #topic Upcoming publication schedule
22:49:52 <stickster> jwf: propose away, you da man now dawg
22:50:15 * jwf types
22:51:13 * ryanlerch just whoised jwf to see who this awesome new contributor was ... :/
22:51:25 <ryanlerch> heheee
22:51:27 <stickster> lol
22:52:00 <jwf> #proposed 2017-02-24 (Friday): "Gitlab, Pelican and Let’s Encrypt for a secure blog"; 2017-02-27 (Monday): "Automate Building Fedora Atomic Host"; 2017-03-01 (Wednesday): "Python 3.6.0 in Fedora 26"; 2017-03-03 (Friday): "IBus typing booster – The Gateway of efficient and effective typing"; 2017-03-06 (Monday): "Getting the most out of GNOME notifications" (???)
22:52:53 <stickster> +1, lgtm
22:52:54 <jwf> ryanlerch: Ahh, yeah – the context behind the nick change was that I've wanted this nick for a while, but it was registered to an abandoned NickServ account. Two weekends ago, I asked in #freenode if I could have the nick, and they cleared it for me, so I committed to changing it. :)
22:53:10 <stickster> YOU ARE DEAD TO US NOW
22:53:10 <ryanlerch> +1 for schedule!
22:53:12 <stickster> lol
22:53:31 <ryanlerch> -1 to confusing nick change
22:53:32 <jwf> +1 for me too, if we can get everything scheduled ahead of time, we can maybe spend time working on a meta task or two, or maybe just trying to keep up with the flow of recent activity, heh
22:53:33 <stickster> NO WAIT HE LIVES
22:53:40 <jwf> lolol :P
22:53:47 <ryanlerch> :D
22:54:07 <jwf> #agreed 2017-02-24 (Friday): "Gitlab, Pelican and Let’s Encrypt for a secure blog"; 2017-02-27 (Monday): "Automate Building Fedora Atomic Host"; 2017-03-01 (Wednesday): "Python 3.6.0 in Fedora 26"; 2017-03-03 (Friday): "IBus typing booster – The Gateway of efficient and effective typing"; 2017-03-06 (Monday): "Getting the most out of GNOME notifications"
22:54:31 <jwf> To open floor? :)
22:54:45 <jflory7> sure!
22:55:58 <jwf> LOL! ryanlerch: Maybe we should invite George Lucas to make a Clone Wars: Fedora Edition… ;)
22:56:15 <ryanlerch> thanks for covering the magazine while i was out!
22:56:21 <stickster> np
22:56:29 <ryanlerch> seemed to do better without me :D
22:56:36 <stickster> -1 TROLL
22:56:57 <jwf> ryanlerch: Belated thanks for covering the Magazine while stickster and I were traveling… :) It's like a big game of switcharoo time to time!
22:57:14 <stickster> I think we can probably get some of our new writers onto existing drafts or startup pitches... that would be a good goal for list conversation
22:57:25 <stickster> jwf: +1
22:57:28 <jwf> Lest it ever be an issue, I still maintain NickServ registration of jflory7 too ;)
22:57:41 <stickster> and that's still your fp.o username, too, I take
22:57:42 <stickster> it
22:58:04 <jwf> stickster: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. I'd really like to try to point people to those, and maybe even rewrite our "Getting started" page to have a section specific to the starter pitches.
22:58:12 <jwf> Yep! That's not changing. :P
22:58:25 <ryanlerch> somewhatmagazine related, but what do you all think about getting the community blog feed on start.fp.o too
22:58:48 <jwf> ryanlerch: Depends on who our intended audience is for the startpage, me thinks
22:59:18 <jwf> If we want to specifically target contributors in addition to users, then I think it makes perfect sense. But if users are the ones primarily using or seeing that page, I don't think they would get as much out of it.
23:00:23 <stickster> It's mostly users, but I could see a better designed page that puts user content (f-mag) in a primary role, but also has info from the community somehow
23:00:53 <stickster> not necessarily a sidebar, but something where people could see there's more going on besides tips for them
23:01:22 <jwf> I could see that too
23:01:26 <stickster> if only we had a designer who knew how to... WAIT HOLD ON
23:01:30 <stickster> :-D
23:01:38 <ryanlerch> yeah, :D
23:01:52 <stickster> I like the concept, honestly
23:02:03 <stickster> as opposed to lying like I normally do all the time
23:02:13 <jwf> Maybe short-term, let's keep it out of the existing feed, but I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a revision to the startpage to add the CommBlog feed to perhaps a less prominent part of the page
23:02:48 <stickster> I think it would take some time to go from concept -> design, then shop that around etc.
23:02:59 <stickster> because people like mattdm would want to approve it
23:03:19 <jwf> Understandably.
23:03:33 <ryanlerch> i'll come uo with some prototypes
23:03:48 <stickster> #idea figure out a way to include CommBlog in start.fp.o
23:04:07 <stickster> #action ryanlerch will work on some prototypes for eyeballs
23:04:15 <stickster> Should we close with that?
23:04:32 <jwf> Works for me :)
23:04:38 * jwf looks toward a bed
23:04:39 * stickster will work on editing tonight from pub
23:04:48 <stickster> thanks ryanlerch jwf !!
23:04:57 <jwf> Thanks for chairing, stickster :)
23:04:59 <jwf> .thank stickster
23:04:59 <zodbot> jwf thinks stickster is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to stickster++ also)
23:05:09 <stickster> #endmeeting