06:00:23 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 15 06:00:23 2017 UTC. The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:23 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:23 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:33 <fujiwarat> hi 06:00:37 <paragan> #meetingname i18n 06:00:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:42 <tagoh_> hi 06:00:47 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:54 <mfabian> Hi! 06:00:55 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2017-02-15 06:02:04 <paragan> #chair fujiwarat tagoh_ mfabian 06:02:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat mfabian paragan tagoh_ 06:02:06 <pravins> hi paragan 😃 06:02:14 <juhp> hi 06:02:27 <paragan> #chair pravins juhp 06:02:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_ 06:02:30 <paragan> Hi all 06:02:44 <suanand> hi 06:03:04 <paragan> Hi suanand 06:03:10 <paragan> #chair suanand 06:03:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:04:09 * juhp wonders how the nextmeetings command works - seems this meeting does not appear? 06:04:35 <juhp> ah nevermind maybe it does 06:04:36 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-07 Mass Rebuild 06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-21 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes) 06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-02-28 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) 06:04:36 <paragan> #info 2017-03-07 Alpha Freeze 06:04:48 <epico> hi 06:05:02 <pravins> juhp: we need to add appointment in calendar for it, i think we do have one. 06:05:31 <juhp> yeah 06:05:47 <pravins> but may be not in sync. 06:06:31 <paragan> #chair epico 06:06:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:06:39 <juhp> (well I was offline last night unusually - so log didn't reflect today) 06:06:54 <paragan> So last weekend Fedora mass rebuild has been completed 06:07:09 <juhp> yes 06:07:33 <paragan> we have ticket for that. we will discuss later on 06:07:56 <paragan> Anyone still got any change to be submitted? 06:08:30 <paragan> also whoever got Change accepted need to check on its completion before 2017-02-28 06:08:36 <epico> libpinyin 2.0 changes 06:09:00 <paragan> epico, if you want you can submit self-contained change before 2017-02-21 06:09:53 <epico> sure, will do 06:10:03 <paragan> thanks 06:10:23 <paragan> lets move to our tickets/issues 06:11:02 <paragan> #topic Outstanding issue 06:11:09 <paragan> #info #69: Fedora 26 planning 06:11:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69 06:12:20 <paragan> epico, after you submit change please add link to the submitted change to https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69 06:13:04 <epico> okay 06:14:17 <juhp> any more on the fontconfig Change? 06:14:44 <tagoh_> nope 06:15:45 <tagoh_> having a look at FTBFS issues on other packages first... will do work on fontconfig in this week. 06:17:34 <paragan> #topic No assignee issues 06:17:35 <paragan> #info #72: Proposal - I18n FAD in 2017 06:17:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/72 06:18:19 <pravins> I am still not clear on Dates and Venue 06:18:44 <pravins> Actually depending upon date or month we have to decide tasks. 06:19:35 <pravins> 2017-05-30 F26 final release. So we are definitely doing it in F27 schedule timeline. 06:21:19 <juhp> I think should decide theme/goal for the FAD first 06:21:59 <pravins> Even this can work. My only concern was: Last time planning for F24 was one of imp. task at our hand. 06:22:02 <pravins> so something like it. 06:22:23 <pravins> I think Theme can be... Keeping Fedora contemporary from i18n side. 06:22:32 <pravins> Latest fonts, latest input methods 06:22:44 <pravins> and update locales.. such that Unicode CLDR 06:22:49 <pravins> s/updated 06:23:24 <pravins> saying that, we also have i18n tasks for Cloud and containers tech. i.e. flatpack 06:23:41 <pravins> does above typed theme looks good? 06:24:06 <juhp> so a F27 (or F28) planning meeting? 06:24:14 <juhp> probably makes good sense 06:24:35 <juhp> FAD is probably too short to achieve a lot of code etc 06:24:41 <pravins> and history says. This FAD planning serve us for 2/3 years releases :) 06:24:46 <juhp> yeah 06:25:34 <pravins> great. I will add this information in FAD page. 06:25:43 <pravins> november again looks good to me. 06:25:47 <juhp> is there still time to arrange as a F27 planning FAD or should we target F28? (of course we don't know the length of those cycles yet either....) 06:26:08 <paragan> FESCo is thinking to remove alpha freeze/compose/release but looks not yet for f27 maybe from f28+ 06:26:18 <juhp> oh 06:26:39 <juhp> paragan: what does that mean? 06:26:51 <juhp> ah no alpha... I see 06:26:56 <juhp> hmmmm 06:27:05 * juhp wonders 06:27:17 <paragan> every day compose is like alpha 06:27:23 <juhp> okay 06:27:39 <pravins> make sense 06:27:46 <juhp> but then no alpha blockers... 06:28:09 <juhp> well it could save a week or two perhaps 06:28:28 <paragan> yeah that needs some discussion which will occur when a new Change is submitted "Alpha Removal" Change 06:28:36 <juhp> aha 06:29:06 <paragan> more on it https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1681#comment-75539 06:30:33 <paragan> pravins, please update ticket when you have some more information 06:30:54 <pravins> paragan: updated this discussion on ticket, will update page soon. 06:31:07 <paragan> thanks 06:31:10 <paragan> #info #63: Fedora 24 Bug triaging 06:31:10 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63 06:32:56 <paragan> all please keep traiging their bugs 06:33:09 <paragan> and see if they can be fixed/closed 06:33:28 <pravins> sure. 06:34:29 <paragan> #info #73: F26 mass rebuild fixes 06:34:29 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/73 06:34:58 <paragan> Please check the ticket description for the links and see if you got any package which is FTBFS 06:35:07 <paragan> fix it as soon as possible :) 06:35:48 <juhp> thanks for opening that 06:36:01 <juhp> I had been waiting for the mail 06:40:37 <paragan> lets move 06:40:55 <paragan> #topic Open Floor 06:41:01 <paragan> anyone got anything to discuss here? 06:41:10 <fujiwarat> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1413840 06:41:27 <fujiwarat> .bug 1413840 06:41:27 <zodbot> fujiwarat: Bug 1413840 – The various ibus-* modules tail to refresh gtk's immodule cache in every instance - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1413840 06:41:36 <fujiwarat> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ibus.git/tree/ibus.spec 06:41:49 <fujiwarat> Do you have any ideas to fix it? 06:43:11 <paragan> checking 06:45:11 <paragan> will check on it later on 06:46:44 <juhp> "Note that because of the logic this only applies on the initial install, but the problem will cure itself on upgrades." 06:47:02 <juhp> hmm 06:49:03 <juhp> fujiwarat: might be missing ambiguous Requires(post) as the reporter suggested? 06:49:10 <juhp> s/missing// 06:49:44 <juhp> you could append %{_isa} I think 06:50:25 <juhp> to enforce the correct arch 06:51:50 <fujiwarat> I don't know the recommended pre/post about 'if [ "$1" -eq 0 ]'. 06:53:57 <fujiwarat> any comments are welcome after this meeting. 06:56:10 <paragan> #endmeeting