01:59:41 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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01:59:44 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:59:54 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
02:00:08 <juggler> .name lajuggler
02:00:16 <juggler> o/
02:00:22 <award3535> #chair juggler
02:00:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 juggler
02:00:31 <jsandys> here
02:00:40 <juggler> hello award, jsandys
02:00:42 <award3535> #chair jsandys
02:00:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler
02:00:58 * kk4ewt 
02:01:07 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
02:01:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt
02:01:16 <award3535> kk4ewt just tried calling you
02:01:45 <kk4ewt> in the car
02:01:51 <kk4ewt> the phone that is
02:01:57 <award3535> ok
02:02:03 <nb> .hello nb
02:02:04 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nb@nb.zone>
02:02:09 <award3535> #chair nb
02:02:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb
02:02:14 <juggler> .hello lajuggler
02:02:15 <zodbot> juggler: lajuggler 'Perry Rivera' <juggler1@gmail.com>
02:03:26 <reher> Hi all!
02:03:37 <award3535> #chair reher
02:03:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb reher
02:03:45 <award3535> evening everyone
02:03:50 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
02:03:55 <juggler> hi back all
02:04:25 <award3535> any announcements
02:05:08 <juggler> none here..just some open discussion later
02:05:15 <award3535> I just have a small one
02:05:31 <juggler> go for it award
02:06:00 <award3535> Look for the Year in review write up once jflory7 and I get done with it, should hit the blog officially in the next few days
02:06:31 <juggler> hopeful for that. jflory7 may have hit a snag with his laptop... :\
02:06:46 <juggler> he's hoping the problem self-corrects
02:07:38 <award3535> yes I saw that port...... since I am a hardware and security guy, more than likely the CMOS hung either on an update or the system bd/hd is bad
02:07:45 <award3535> any one else
02:08:17 <juggler> yeah hopefully it starts up ok... *crossing fingers*
02:08:27 <award3535> ok moving on
02:08:29 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
02:08:46 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues
02:09:15 <award3535> .famnaticket 161
02:09:18 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #161: New Table Cloths for FAmNA - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/161
02:09:56 <award3535> I got ahold of the original vendor, spoke with him today, he will be getting some quotes to me
02:10:38 <award3535> I would like to propose a darker background such as a black cloth with fedora blue lettering
02:11:09 <award3535> we need to decide the colors and quanity
02:11:22 <juggler> sounds good..it would show dirt a lot less :)
02:11:26 <linuxmodder> .hello linuxmodder
02:11:27 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
02:11:29 <linuxmodder> sorry for late arrival
02:11:30 <award3535> that is before we vote on purchase
02:11:36 <award3535> #chair linuxmodder
02:11:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder nb reher
02:11:43 <linuxmodder> award3535,  GSoC   ideas open
02:11:51 <juggler> do we have an idea what the current qty is for the legacy tablecloths?
02:12:09 <kk4ewt> juggler, 2
02:12:19 <award3535> I think there was originally two
02:12:49 <juggler> historically has that  been sufficient for nationwide use?
02:12:59 <kk4ewt> yes
02:13:00 <award3535> juggler so far ues
02:13:02 <award3535> yes
02:13:04 <jsandys> one per event box
02:13:13 <kk4ewt> untill one got lost
02:13:14 <award3535> we have three event boxes
02:13:24 <juggler> aww bummer for the loss.
02:13:37 <juggler> how much of a pain and cost is it to remake a new one?
02:13:41 <kk4ewt> so dont lose this one
02:13:42 <award3535> masta has the third, I talked to him last week
02:13:42 <linuxmodder> west central and east  indeed
02:13:56 <award3535> event box that is
02:14:09 <masta> sent to NB
02:14:21 <award3535> #chair
02:14:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder nb reher
02:14:22 <award3535> masta
02:14:24 <kk4ewt> good
02:14:25 * masta sent the central box to nb
02:14:33 <award3535> #chair masta
02:14:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher
02:14:37 <award3535> evening masta
02:14:42 <masta> howdy all
02:14:51 <juggler> evening back!
02:14:52 <award3535> masta thank you for shipping it back
02:15:38 <juggler> I'd like to recommend 2. if a 3rd isn't too expensive, perhaps a 3rd "just in case"
02:15:43 <award3535> so keep the thought in the back of your head for table cloths
02:16:12 <jsandys> Do we have a estimate for 3 table cloths
02:16:19 <award3535> think the black background like the last t shirts we had
02:16:24 <kk4ewt> juggler,  if the prices are what i think they will be like 600 each 2 is plenty
02:16:38 <juggler> wow..yikes! :)
02:16:38 <nb> I really don't know if there is a need for a 3rd event box.  my event box gets used like once a year
02:16:45 <juggler> 2 sounds good
02:16:46 <award3535> kk4ewt, I have not got the quote back yet
02:16:52 <nb> kk4ewt, yeah, i would tend to agree.  2
02:17:17 <linuxmodder> or have the third (event box) on standby (officially)
02:17:24 <award3535> nb, we can use that box as a backup
02:17:28 <nb> award3535, yeah
02:17:31 <kk4ewt> exactly
02:17:40 <masta> are the table cloth made of vinyl ?
02:17:42 <jsandys> Black with blue logo?
02:17:58 <juggler> curious, when we were down a tablecloth, how bad a showstopper was it, if any?
02:18:01 <kk4ewt> masta no think of a hotel tablecloth
02:18:03 <award3535> jsandys yes, masta no
02:18:19 <kk4ewt> juggler,  no budget
02:18:35 <masta> bummer... they get dirty.. so a vinyl kind woudl be easy no-mess clean
02:18:57 <nb> so, I have an update about the keychains & patches --- probably going to be cancelled.  mizmo thinks the embroidery does not look professional
02:18:58 <juggler> yeah, but vinyl feels weird over a long day
02:18:59 <award3535> masta that is why I like the black base
02:19:05 <jsandys> Do you need a motion?
02:19:10 <nb> which, it's not as good as I would like, but i thought it was acceptable
02:19:16 <jsandys> No to vinyl.
02:19:23 <juggler> Yes to cloth
02:19:25 <juggler> Yes to 2
02:19:26 * nb thinks we need cloth
02:19:31 <juggler> hey nb
02:19:46 <masta> oh wow... a vote on cloth vs vinyl.. haha
02:19:50 <award3535> yes, I will update everyone once I receive the quote and images
02:20:03 <juggler> vinyl is best for records ;) lol
02:20:10 <kk4ewt> each event can go to the dollar store and get $1 vinyal table cover if they are going to eat at the table
02:20:41 <award3535> nb, do we need to officially drop the embroidered swag ticket
02:21:12 <juggler> here's another question...do we retire the legacy tablecloths or use them until they are threadbare?
02:21:32 <nb> award3535, it's not 100% sure yet, but they are going to try to see if they can redigitize the logo to make it look better but they don't think they can
02:21:41 <nb> juggler, we only have 1 i think, right?
02:21:48 <nb> we could send it for me to put in the central/backup event box
02:21:50 <award3535> juggler we can ship them to nb for the back up box
02:21:55 <kk4ewt> juggler,  i am going to take it and get dry cleaned and send it to nb for the central box
02:21:59 <juggler> nb I think we have 2 total, based on the convo history
02:22:10 <juggler> award sounds good
02:22:30 <juggler> kk4ewt excellent
02:22:49 <kk4ewt> juggler,  we had 2, one was lost somewhere on the west coast, so now we are getting 2
02:22:53 * nb moves we reimburse kk4ewt for drycleaning expense
02:23:12 <award3535> Once I hear from the vendor again which should be in the next couple of days I will get an email out
02:23:18 <juggler> nb++
02:23:18 <zodbot> juggler: Karma for nb changed to 7 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
02:23:30 <juggler> er didn't mean to do that... sorry!
02:23:50 <award3535> nb, that would include me as well since I tried to get it cleaned
02:24:04 <nb> award3535, oh ok
02:24:12 * nb moves we reimburse kk4ewt AND award3535 for drycleaning
02:24:26 <jsandys> +1
02:24:27 <juggler> second
02:24:33 * masta +1
02:24:34 <award3535> +1 for kk4ewt
02:24:35 <juggler> +1
02:24:38 <nb> +1
02:25:05 <award3535> #agreed reimbursement for drycleaning costs for Fedora table cloths
02:25:22 <award3535> kk4ewt do you have any receipts for the dry cleaning?
02:25:51 <award3535> I will need a copy of that to go with the credit card statement
02:26:16 <kk4ewt> i have done it yet
02:26:24 <kk4ewt> not
02:26:46 <award3535> kk4ewt no worries just keep a copy and get it to me...
02:26:51 <award3535> ok lets move on
02:26:56 <award3535> .famnaticket 164
02:26:57 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #164: Event Box Request - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/164
02:27:24 <award3535> juggler is this ticket still needed for meeting or can I move it to open
02:27:41 <juggler> probably open
02:27:44 <kk4ewt> 168 please
02:28:05 <award3535> .famnaticket 168
02:28:06 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #168: Vertical Banners - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/168
02:28:11 <award3535> kk4ewt go
02:29:30 <kk4ewt> ok i got the resized graphics from mizmo today and i then contacted the vender for a quote as instructed, i got an email back that i was suppose to get a quote by 330 today but it never showed so hopefully first thing in the morning we shaould have a quote
02:30:02 <kk4ewt> the total for both banners should be around $700 (658+shipping)
02:30:18 <award3535> kk4ewt thank you, but I will be standing by to call and pay when the vendor is ready
02:30:22 <kk4ewt> when i get the quote i will forward it to award3535  so he can get them ordered
02:30:47 <nb> did we already vote on it?\
02:30:58 <kk4ewt> yes
02:30:58 <award3535> nb, yes
02:31:01 <nb> ok good
02:31:24 <award3535> I will email out when I get them paid for and ordered
02:32:07 <juggler> will SCaLE be using the new banners or legacy banners? guessing legacy right?
02:32:21 <kk4ewt> juggler,  new
02:32:23 <award3535> juggler, banners are OOC
02:32:28 <award3535> legacy that is
02:32:34 <linuxmodder> OOC ?
02:32:42 <kk4ewt> old banner are borked
02:32:43 <award3535> out of commission
02:32:48 <award3535> OOC
02:32:54 <linuxmodder> ah
02:33:00 <kk4ewt> usable in dire emergency
02:33:03 <cydrobolt> hey there
02:33:03 <juggler> got it
02:33:12 <linuxmodder> cydrobolt,  long time
02:33:13 <juggler> cydrobolt!!
02:33:17 <cydrobolt> yeah :)
02:33:19 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt
02:33:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher
02:33:23 <cydrobolt> been busy with classes recently
02:34:05 <juggler> hopefully the new banners are manufactured and shipped to us before the event. otherwise, I guess we set up a popup dryboard? :)
02:34:14 <award3535> ok moving to open floor
02:34:16 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
02:34:26 <juggler> I have a few q's
02:34:36 <kk4ewt> juggler,  in dire emergency i will ship the old banners out
02:34:42 <kk4ewt> but we still have time
02:34:44 <jsandys> ticket 167
02:34:54 <juggler> *crossing fingers* thx kk4ewt
02:35:13 <juggler> is jsandys going ahead?
02:35:33 <award3535> jsandys, you are still a ways out
02:35:40 <award3535> but something you need
02:35:42 <jsandys> can i reserve a ten foot table for $1500 for LFNW2017
02:36:14 <nb> jsandys, is there anything less? I'd prefer we spend more like $500 on a sponsorship
02:36:14 <kk4ewt> hopefully its alot more than a 10' table
02:36:40 <kk4ewt> like a 10' x 10' booth
02:36:57 <award3535> the same folks that run that event also do texas, and the pricing is steep
02:36:59 <linuxmodder> there is a 5' table for liek $750 iirc
02:37:04 <jsandys> yes, and Bill gives use a premium location
02:37:14 * nb would suggest 5' Table - $750 (Logo on Tier 2 of Sponsor Page)
02:37:58 <linuxmodder> iirc my  suggestion was 5' table up to $500 shipping/travel
02:38:21 <jsandys> It is hard to interact with the public in a 5 foot booth IMHO
02:38:33 <linuxmodder> how so
02:38:51 <linuxmodder> if you have like 6-8 contribs on table sure
02:38:59 <jsandys> We have been setting up interactive booths
02:39:28 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  btw I'm working on a updated security lab  spin iso for you r folks
02:39:45 <linuxmodder> if you want any  specific configs on one prebuilt let me know
02:40:03 <linuxmodder> also kk4ewt  and I were thinking of doing a multi with sec lab  for lfnw
02:40:03 <jsandys> Still looking for a security expert to attend
02:40:16 <linuxmodder> I'd be down if we had budget
02:40:55 <award3535> that is the problem taking one of us from the east coast to west coast with lodging and flights would spend most of the budget
02:41:08 <linuxmodder> but travel alone would be nearly 500 for me to come out
02:41:13 <nb> it looks like they have went up in price this year
02:41:19 <nb> was 1000 for sponsorship last year
02:41:45 <jsandys> Yes, and the friday night party is $2000
02:41:48 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  make your budget and we can look at it,
02:41:59 <kk4ewt> what does the party get us
02:42:05 <jsandys> which we are not going to sponsor this year
02:42:13 <linuxmodder> no game nights tho if any of us have any chance of  coming from east coast
02:43:06 <nb> jsandys, i wonder if they would negotiate any on their price?
02:43:09 <nb> like maybe 1000?
02:43:18 <nb> to get the larger size booth
02:43:21 <award3535> the government employs me to information security and protection of networks
02:44:07 <jsandys> I can ask about a discount.
02:44:47 <juggler> could we discuss tkt 166?
02:45:15 <award3535> jsandys I would really like to minimize the expense, there are many other events that we are looking into in the midwest
02:45:24 <award3535> juggler what do you need
02:46:01 <juggler> 166: will SCaLE be covering a room for me? that did not seem evident from last week's logs
02:46:21 <juggler> the original plan was for me and Alex to share a room..but the plan apparently has changed
02:46:23 <juggler> ?
02:46:53 <kk4ewt> juggler,  do you mean SCALE is comping you a room or fedora is paying for a roon
02:47:07 <juggler> the latter
02:47:11 <juggler> correction
02:47:15 <juggler> :)
02:47:29 <kk4ewt> so how many rooms are needed now
02:47:34 <nb> juggler, I think we are all confused about who needs a room, someone, maybe paradox? was saying that you live very close to scale, and actually closer than him
02:47:40 <nb> if i am not mistaken
02:47:57 <award3535> nb beat me to it
02:48:45 <juggler> not close to scale. it's about an hour commute in and out from where I live.
02:48:56 <juggler> and not near any mass transit either.
02:49:02 <award3535> distance in miles?
02:49:08 <award3535> or traffic
02:49:17 <juggler> traffic, driving and foot
02:49:41 <kk4ewt> thats far enough for me to say ok to a room
02:49:49 <juggler> I wouldn't ask for it if I didn't feel I needed it. :)
02:49:59 <kk4ewt> and if we can share it with another ambassador is even better
02:50:10 <juggler> that's fine..
02:50:11 <award3535> then do we need to bump the budget up
02:50:36 <juggler> I can readjust as necessary.
02:50:46 <kk4ewt> is the budget up to date on the site
02:51:00 <nb> I may not end up able to go it's looking like
02:51:01 <juggler> gimme about 2d pls...
02:51:07 * nb really wants to go, but personal reasons might not be able to
02:51:12 <juggler> nb oh :\
02:51:13 <nb> (I haven't bought ticket yet)
02:51:23 * juggler is hopeful
02:51:24 <nb> juggler, not sure, hoping to figure out this weekend if i will be coming
02:51:26 <award3535> the voted amount was $2, 500.00
02:51:40 <juggler> nb pls keep me advised... :)
02:51:49 <nb> i will
02:52:06 <juggler> btw, regarding tkt 164, does someone have an action to send a tablecloth?
02:52:21 <juggler> nb thx
02:52:33 * nb hates plane ticket prices
02:52:54 <kk4ewt> juggler,  it will happen either a new one or the old one
02:52:55 <nb> i was just looking and now they've went up, so if i flew to BUR, it'd be like $630 and have like a 12 hour trip
02:53:07 <award3535> so do we need to vote on a budget increase?
02:53:08 <nb> LAX is around 400, but you said that takes a logn time to get there and back
02:53:24 <nb> you or paradox, i forget which said not to go to LAX
02:54:00 <juggler> nb yeah, best to fly into burbank
02:54:11 <kk4ewt> juggler,  well see if nb comes out, then you 2 can share a room
02:54:12 <award3535> Ok this ticket needs to be re-evaluated. Lets get the correct numbers listed and propose a budget!
02:54:14 <juggler> award3535 not yet
02:54:17 <nb> award3535, I think we still would be within budget
02:54:20 <nb> within the 2500
02:54:41 <linuxmodder> we talking about lfnw or scale now?
02:54:47 <juggler> how about the tablecloth issue for scale?
02:54:47 <award3535> scale
02:54:50 <juggler> modder scale
02:55:03 <award3535> table cloth should be in the west coast box
02:55:05 <nb> award3535, I don't think the budget will need to be increased
02:55:19 <nb> 1834+~600 for second room still leaves some room for my ticket to be more expensive
02:55:21 <juggler> award it is? tkt164 seems to describe otherwise...?
02:55:28 <award3535> new table cloths will more than likely not be done by the event
02:56:13 <juggler> any table cloth is fine, we will just need one..
02:56:31 <juggler> pg's message on the ticket seems to suggest that he is still in need of one..
02:57:07 <award3535> I do have one thing to bring up, next week is my Local LUG meeting and I will not be here to chair the meeting.... so any volunteers
02:57:17 <nb> I thought west coast didn't have a tablecloth?
02:57:59 <award3535> well, if there is not one in the event box, then where did it go
02:58:00 <juggler> so we should go the vinyl route...? :)
02:58:20 <award3535> seems like the same for the laptop that was lost out there
02:58:26 <kk4ewt> award3535,  lost years ago
02:58:41 <award3535> kk4ewt yes
02:58:43 <kk4ewt> juggler,  what did i say earlier
02:58:52 <juggler> well, I guess we'll see whatever's in the box..
02:59:17 <kk4ewt> nb when we got tablecloths origionally we got 2
02:59:23 <award3535> so anyone up for chairing next week
02:59:31 <nb> juggler, if the new one doesn't get there in time, then kk4ewt will send you the old one
02:59:35 <kk4ewt> i will be out next week
02:59:54 <juggler> nb thx
02:59:56 <award3535> nb, did you get the mid box back
03:00:00 <nb> I may be here, but it sounds like we may not have a quorum anyway
03:00:12 <linuxmodder> nb,  check those tickets I am seeing under $200 roundtrip to scale ( lax) from dc
03:00:19 <nb> linuxmodder, BUR
03:00:21 <nb> not LAX
03:00:31 <nb> award3535, it was shipped yesterday
03:00:49 <juggler> yeah I wouldn't make nb suffer by flying into LAX ;)
03:00:54 <award3535> you may want to get that table cloth to juggler
03:01:20 <nb> award3535, looks like it should be delivered Monday
03:01:26 <juggler> well our plan b if we don't see a table cloth is to pick up something at the dollar store..lol
03:01:27 <award3535> so are we not going to have a meeting next week since I will not be there nor will kk4ewt
03:01:42 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  flying into lax would be like you flying into greensboro
03:02:02 <nb> award3535, I could chair, but idk if we can make many decisions with you two gone
03:02:04 <kk4ewt> or richmond
03:02:17 <kk4ewt> nb if you have a quorum you can
03:02:33 <linuxmodder> even then under 400 rt
03:02:37 <kk4ewt> i should be here its the week after i will not
03:02:37 <nb> what is a quorum defined as
03:02:42 <nb> linuxmodder, check EVV to BUR
03:02:43 <kk4ewt> 5
03:03:05 <nb> kk4ewt, ok, one of us can chair thne
03:03:10 <linuxmodder> 525 rt from evv nb
03:03:12 <award3535> If something comes up I can send it to the ambassadors list
03:03:13 <nb> since you will be here next week
03:03:17 <linuxmodder> with stops in clt and ohx
03:03:20 <juggler> what's the command to check our attendees here?
03:03:34 <kk4ewt> #chair
03:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher
03:03:39 <nb> juggler, what day should i arrive and depart
03:03:41 <juggler> thx kk4ewt
03:03:45 <nb> juggler, 3/2 to 3/5?
03:04:09 <linuxmodder> nb,  that is assuming arriving the 1st and departing late on the 5th
03:04:18 <juggler> nb that sounds correct. double check it against the dates of the conf, pls.
03:05:07 <juggler> ok folks, anything else from me? I gotta run to another volunteer meeting..
03:06:11 <award3535> I will keep the meeting on the schedule, but if no one chairs it will be a bust. but also dont forget to update all the tickets discussed tonight
03:06:43 <juggler> as long as I'm not scheduled to work that night, I should be able to pop in for the first half.
03:06:47 <award3535> also if there is a meeting ensure you send the email out after the meeting
03:07:34 <award3535> anything else tonight
03:07:45 <juggler> good here
03:07:54 <juggler> I think modder had something
03:08:01 <juggler> about lfnw?
03:08:36 <award3535> linuxmodder.....
03:08:42 <jsandys> ?
03:08:42 <juggler> oh modder.....
03:08:56 <juggler> going 1x...
03:09:18 <award3535> #endmeeting