14:01:55 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2017-02-07)
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14:02:01 <jflory7> #meetingname marketing
14:02:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing'
14:02:05 <jflory7> #topic Agenda
14:02:10 <jflory7> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2017-02-07
14:02:16 <jflory7> #info (1) Roll call
14:02:20 <jflory7> #info (2) Announcements
14:02:25 <jflory7> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
14:02:29 <jflory7> #info (4) Tickets
14:02:32 <jflory7> #info (5) Upcoming tasks
14:02:37 <Amita> .hello amsharma
14:02:38 <zodbot> Amita: amsharma 'Amita Sharma' <amsharma@redhat.com>
14:02:39 <jflory7> #info (6) Open floor
14:02:41 <jflory7> #topic Roll call
14:02:45 <jflory7> #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas
14:03:08 <jflory7> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC+1; CommOps, Magazine, Marketing, Diversity Team, Ambassador, sysadmin-badges, and more
14:03:12 <jflory7> #chair Amita
14:03:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita jflory7
14:03:16 * jflory7 waves to Amita
14:03:20 <Amita> hello jflory7
14:03:30 <jflory7> Good evening to you!
14:03:32 <Amita> from so near to so far, just in a day
14:03:35 <Amita> hehe j
14:03:44 <Amita> hehe jflory7 is it afternoon for you?
14:03:54 <jflory7> .localtime jflory7
14:03:55 <zodbot> jflory7: The current local time of "jflory7" is: "15:03" (timezone: Europe/Zagreb)
14:03:57 <jflory7> Yep. :)
14:04:23 <Amita> jflory7, ok :)
14:04:33 <jflory7> I'm still making some quick additions to the agenda for today... didn't get as much time to work on it as I wanted.
14:04:39 <jflory7> But today's meeting should be fairly simple.
14:05:23 <Amita> jflory7, I like simple things :)
14:07:16 <jflory7> mailga, around?
14:07:39 * jflory7 knows we might have a hard time rounding up folks in the US since it's early and the inconsistencies of past meetings
14:08:41 * mailga was on the phone....
14:08:58 <mailga> now I'm available, hello Justin!
14:09:11 <Amita> hi mailga
14:09:17 <jflory7> mailga: Greetings :)
14:09:19 <jflory7> #chair mailga
14:09:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita jflory7 mailga
14:09:24 <jflory7> Perfect timing too, because I finished the agenda.
14:09:27 <jflory7> Let's get started...
14:09:34 <jflory7> #topic Announcements
14:09:39 <mailga> hello Amita nice to see you (more or less) again.
14:09:40 <jflory7> #info === In the news: "Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support Creation of LVM RAID" ===
14:09:45 <jflory7> #link http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-26-linux-to-ship-with-gnome-3-24-desktop-support-creation-of-lvm-raid-512454.shtml
14:09:50 <jflory7> #info Overall positive write-up about some of the upcoming features for Fedora 26. We should work on creating talking points soon now that the change window is passing.
14:09:55 <jflory7> #info === "Find Fedora at FOSDEM 2017!" ===
14:10:00 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/find-fedora-at-fosdem-2017/
14:10:05 <jflory7> #info Fedora was at FOSDEM in Brussels this past weekend. A good number of Fedora contributors participated as speakers during the conference.
14:10:10 <dhanesh95> .hello dhanesh95
14:10:11 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora Cloud Base Image has a new home!" ===
14:10:12 <zodbot> dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' <dhanesh95@disroot.org>
14:10:15 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-cloud-base-new-home/
14:10:22 <jflory7> #info Fedora Cloud images moved to a new home, since Cloud is no longer a main edition of Fedora. This could be a useful point to communicate during the next release as Atomic begins to take a more prominent role.
14:10:23 <jflory7> <eof>
14:10:29 <jflory7> Anyone else have any other announcements?
14:10:30 <jflory7> Hey dhanesh95!
14:10:32 <jflory7> #chair dhanesh95
14:10:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita dhanesh95 jflory7 mailga
14:10:48 <dhanesh95> jflory7: o/
14:10:54 <dhanesh95> Nothing here jflory7
14:10:57 <mailga> I've got one, not properly an annoucement
14:11:04 <jflory7> mailga: Go for it!
14:11:09 <mailga> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
14:11:20 * dhanesh95 ran back home to be on time here.. :P
14:11:23 <mailga> we should attend that meeting
14:11:38 <mailga> eof
14:12:09 <jflory7> mailga: Oh, excellent, I didn't yet catch that thread.
14:12:23 <jflory7> mailga: I think the March meeting could be a good one for us to make.
14:12:31 <jflory7> We can maybe discuss around open floor?
14:12:44 <mailga> yes, of course.
14:12:49 * jflory7 nods
14:12:53 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Made it just in time ;)
14:13:02 <jflory7> #topic Action items from last meetings
14:13:08 <jflory7> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/marketing/marketing.2017-01-10-14.14.html
14:13:12 <jflory7> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
14:13:16 <jflory7> #info No past action items!
14:13:21 <jflory7> #topic Tickets
14:13:25 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issues?tags=meeting
14:13:30 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #242 ===
14:13:34 <jflory7> #info "Update release activity steps / process on the wiki"
14:13:38 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/242
14:13:43 <jflory7> #info The idea behind this ticket is to reevaluate what the Marketing team does or should be doing during a release, and then more clearly communicating that in a public place, like our main wiki page. The issue we have is that we haven't discussed or brainstormed this much yet.
14:13:50 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #245 ===
14:13:54 <jflory7> #undo
14:13:54 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jflory7 at 14:13:50 : === Ticket #245 ===
14:13:58 <jflory7> Oops, too much copy+paste :P
14:14:09 <dhanesh95> Take it easy jflory7
14:14:23 <jflory7> I think this ticket is timely and should also be one of our top priorities for this release cycle.
14:14:30 <dhanesh95> +1
14:15:26 <jflory7> bexelbie and I briefly discussed this during DevConf, but I shared the idea that Marketing might need to reevaluate what its responsibilities during a release are, and maybe studying other project's marketing teams to see what they're doing.
14:16:00 <mailga> +1 that ticket is part of our main tasks
14:16:10 <jflory7> I think there's a lot of legacy "cruft" from the early days of Fedora still in Marketing. We should do a 2017 refresher and see what's still relevant (like talking points) and figure out if there's things we want to do differently.
14:16:14 <jflory7> Or even new things completely.
14:16:31 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Could you just give me a quick review of what we do currently?
14:16:49 <jflory7> I feel like before we can have a full discussion about this, we all need to do some research / homework, unless any of us have any ideas right now.
14:17:38 <jflory7> dhanesh95: From a realistic point of view, the majority of the work Marketing does is related to creating talking points to share with Ambassadors / representatives of the project, and also trying to do outreach to the wider community outside of the contributor community. But the latter is a little stagnated.
14:18:03 <dhanesh95> Honestly, I think we should get some *inspiration* from Mozilla. They do some great work with marketing..
14:18:03 <jflory7> This is why I think we could maybe try to split up doing some research or looking around, and then share next meeting what we found in other communities, then discuss?
14:18:18 <jflory7> dhanesh95: The two communities I wanted to explicitly mention were Mozilla and Ubuntu
14:18:21 <mailga> jflory7: at the moment I'm still on the "limbo" waiting for hubs. I wanna start again with mktg stuff, targets, goal. We have a long history to keep update the wiki and also we are not aware about all the pages written. IMO
14:18:22 <dhanesh95> jflory7: +1
14:18:22 <Amita> jflory7, may be we can open up a page (piratepad etc) for sub teams to fill in what they are coming up in the release
14:18:28 <Amita> little early in the release
14:18:50 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy
14:18:51 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
14:19:18 <jflory7> mailga: I think we are waiting a bit for Hubs, but we should still find creative ways to be productive until it arrives.
14:19:48 <jflory7> Amita: That could be something we roll into talking points, perhaps. I assume for development sides of the project, you mean, right?
14:19:52 <jflory7> x3mboy: Heya!
14:19:55 <jflory7> #chair x3mboy
14:19:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita dhanesh95 jflory7 mailga x3mboy
14:19:56 <dhanesh95> jflory7: I have a friend from the local Mozilla community who works with l10n and Marketing.. I'll talk to her and I'll see if I can get anything important for us..
14:19:58 <x3mboy> jflory7, o/
14:20:00 <dhanesh95> x3mboy: o/
14:20:06 <x3mboy> dhanesh95, o/
14:20:24 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Okay, so maybe we can split this into some action items...
14:20:31 <mailga> jflory7: sure, but our energy can't be wasted looking for wikipages to be updated. We need to revisit the mktg as a whole.
14:20:39 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Did I mention Mozilla?
14:20:47 <dhanesh95> Ohh yes I did.. :P
14:21:02 * dhanesh95 is confused today.. -_-
14:21:21 <Amita> dhanesh95, you are talking about Priyanka?
14:21:21 <jflory7> I think two communities we should look at, and then discuss, next week are Mozilla and Ubuntu. We could have some of us look closer at what both of those project communities do for their marketing efforts, and then compare to our own work to see what we could be doing better.
14:21:34 <dhanesh95> Amita: Priyanka and Aastha..
14:21:55 <Amita> dhanesh95, I can talk to Priyanka (being in same office) and help you out with
14:22:18 <Amita> dhanesh95, lemme know if that helps
14:22:23 <dhanesh95> Amita: Ooh.. Awesome! Go ahead!
14:22:31 <dhanesh95> .fasinfo Amita
14:22:32 <zodbot> dhanesh95: User "Amita" doesn't exist
14:22:39 <Amita> dhanesh95, we can work on a page together to put down the points
14:22:47 <Amita> .fasinfo amsharma
14:22:48 <zodbot> Amita: User: amsharma, Name: Amita Sharma, email: amsharma@redhat.com, Creation: 2011-08-31, IRC Nick: Amita, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
14:22:51 <dhanesh95> Amita: +1
14:22:51 <zodbot> Amita: Approved Groups: commops fedora-join +diversity-team marketing cla_fpca cla_done qa magazine fedorabugs
14:22:58 <dhanesh95> Amita++
14:23:02 <Amita> dhanesh95, cool, lets sync
14:23:09 <Amita> offline :)
14:23:11 <jflory7> mailga: I better understand your point now. Yeah, there is a lot of effort wasted into wikipage updating. Finding ways to take our work out of the wiki and into a more engaging way would be helpful.
14:23:12 <bkp> .fasinfo bproffit
14:23:13 <zodbot> bkp: User: bproffit, Name: Brian Proffitt, email: bkp@redhat.com, Creation: 2014-03-10, IRC Nick: bkp, Timezone: America/Indiana/Indianapolis, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
14:23:16 <zodbot> bkp: Approved Groups: marketing cla_fpca cla_done
14:23:22 <x3mboy> jflory7, in the case of Ubuntu, the marketing is a little closed. Depends directly from Cannonical. LoCo (local communities) just manage local resources on their own. But I can ask in my former LoCo to know if I'm wrong
14:23:25 <jflory7> bkp: Morning Brian!
14:23:32 <Amita> hi bkp
14:23:34 <jflory7> #chair bkp
14:23:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita bkp dhanesh95 jflory7 mailga x3mboy
14:23:49 <dhanesh95> bkp: o/ Long time no see!
14:23:52 <jflory7> Okay, so I'll propose this action item:
14:23:56 <bkp> So it seems
14:25:10 <jflory7> #proposed Amita / dhanesh95 Research the Mozilla marketing team / efforts to see what kind of work and activities they do for their release cycles, and then leave a comment in ticket #242 for discussion at next meeting
14:25:11 <jflory7> Sound good?
14:25:21 <jflory7> x3mboy: If you could reach out to your LoCo, that would also be helpful.
14:25:35 <jflory7> If cprofitt is around, he could probably provide some insight into the Ubuntu side of things.
14:25:52 <jflory7> That makes it more challenging if Canonical is controlling the Marketing side, because none of that would be too public, I imagine
14:25:53 <x3mboy> jflory7, I'm asking right now :P
14:25:59 <jflory7> x3mboy: Okay, great!
14:26:26 <dhanesh95> jflory7: +1
14:26:29 <mailga> +1 to the proposed item.
14:26:51 <Amita> jflory7, good to me
14:26:52 <jflory7> #action Amita / dhanesh95 Research the Mozilla marketing team / efforts to see what kind of work and activities they do for their release cycles, and then leave a comment in ticket #242 for discussion at next meeting
14:28:13 <jflory7> Okay. And bkp, maybe this is something you could help with too? This is ticket #242, with regards to "retooling / reinventing" Marketing to better map out the things we do during a release cycle, so we can then better communicate that (and ideally make it easier for people to participate). I know you do work with a mixed number of FOSS projects, but I'm not sure if you are too familiar with their marketing efforts or work?
14:28:40 <jflory7> We want to first look at other communities to see what they're doing, what is working for them, and see if we can try applying some of their successes to our own efforts.
14:28:58 <bkp> jflory7: Looking
14:29:33 <jflory7> bkp: Okay, great. Not sure how much is in the ticket yet, but if you think you might have some ideas to add about things you've seen that work well in other FOSS communities, that could be useful information for us.
14:30:10 <jflory7> I don't think we're going to do too much discussion now, but we will revisit next week with some of the info we gathered about other projects' marketing teams / activities.
14:30:18 <bkp> Right. Definitely worth expanding the process description
14:30:18 * mailga is quite sure that Canonical includes swag into marketing.
14:30:38 <bkp> mailga: True, where was we tend to tie that into events
14:30:46 <bkp> *whereas
14:31:04 <bkp> jflory7: I can be down for that discussion
14:31:22 <jflory7> bkp: Okay, great. If you think you could leave a comment with any ideas you might have for us to try, feel free to comment in the ticket - otherwise, we will discuss with the info we have next week.
14:31:35 <mailga> and I think we should produce releaseless swag.
14:31:47 <bkp> Okay. It's good timing: I am officially off of the oVirt project.
14:31:49 <linuxmodder> .fas linuxmodder
14:31:49 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
14:32:09 <jflory7> #help If you have experience or knowledge with other open source project communities and their marketing teams or activities, we would appreciate you leaving your thoughts and experiences in the ticket! https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/242
14:32:12 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Morning!
14:32:14 <jflory7> #chair linuxmodder
14:32:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Amita bkp dhanesh95 jflory7 linuxmodder mailga x3mboy
14:32:17 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #245 ===
14:32:22 <jflory7> #info "Create Fedora 26 talking points"
14:32:27 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/245
14:32:33 <jflory7> #info As per usual, we want to begin working on the Fedora 26 talking points to share with Ambassadors, the press, and others who will spread the word about what's new and great in the next release of Fedora.
14:32:47 <jflory7> I literally just filed this one before the meeting, so there's not a whole lot there yet.
14:32:58 <jflory7> But it's not too early to begin thinking about talking points.
14:33:26 <mailga> jflory7: +1
14:34:01 <jflory7> As far as explicitly reaching out for project-wide changes, I think we should wait until the window closes on Feb. 28th. But I think it would be great if we could start looking at other changes across Fedora that we could maybe highlight outside of the big changeset.
14:34:01 <mailga> this is THE point. Talking points are really our mktg strategy.
14:34:08 <jflory7> mailga: Agreed.
14:34:44 <jflory7> mailga: Not to be ironic, but mailga, do you think you would have the cycles to prep the Fedora 26 talking points wiki page by next week's meeting?
14:35:18 <jflory7> If not, I can take care of it, but I know I'll be in catch-up mode this week
14:35:34 <mailga> jflory7: not a problem preparing the page, the problem is to make it appealing....
14:35:51 <cprofitt> jflory7: reading backlog now
14:35:53 <mailga> jflory7: give the action to me, I'll do.
14:35:54 <jflory7> mailga: We can revisit that part once we have some more info to work with. :) I'll go ahead and action this to you.
14:36:06 <mailga> jflory7: +1
14:36:22 <jflory7> #action mailga Prepare / create the Fedora 26 talking points wiki page and update the link for it on the main Marketing wiki page by next week's meeting, 2017-02-14
14:37:38 <jflory7> Other than that one point, I don't think we have much to discuss yet for talking points since the window hasn't closed yet. Unless anyone has something else to add here! Otherwise, we can begin the process of reaching out to working groups / SIGs next week to start getting this on their minds again for what they want to highlight for F26.
14:37:45 <jflory7> Any objections to moving on?
14:37:48 <cprofitt> x3mboy jflory7 marketing with Ubuntu has two parts. 1) Canonical obviously does marketing for Ubuntu directly. 2) LoCos get some pre-arranged marketing items from Canonical or they can make requests for funding local initiatives.
14:38:19 <jflory7> cprofitt: Hmmm… okay. So there probably won't be much open data or resources that we can look to for learning purposes.
14:38:31 <cprofitt> there is... hold on...
14:38:39 <jflory7> Oh!
14:38:52 <cprofitt> some resrouces here - http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
14:39:15 <jflory7> #info Will begin the process of reaching out to working groups / SIGs next week to start getting this on their minds again for what they want to highlight for F26
14:39:20 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #242 ===
14:39:21 <cprofitt> https://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
14:39:24 <jflory7> #link http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
14:39:38 <cprofitt> and funding reports here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/07/02/community-donations-funding-report-q1-2014/
14:40:00 <cprofitt> the funding reports show what the money was spent on.
14:40:23 <dhanesh95> We'll probably need the design team's help if we have to imitate Ubuntu's ideas
14:40:32 <cprofitt> this is general information about the locos http://loco.ubuntu.com/
14:40:53 <jflory7> cprofitt: Think you could comment on the ticket with links to all of these too? These will be helpful to look at for sure. I'm hoping we can better understand the planning / logic for Ubuntu's marketing from these pages
14:41:23 <cprofitt> can you link the ticket one more time -- and I will go add that really quick
14:41:31 <jflory7> cprofitt: https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/242
14:41:40 <jflory7> cprofitt++ Thanks for the insight here!
14:41:42 <jflory7> .thank cprofitt
14:41:42 <zodbot> jflory7 thinks cprofitt is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to cprofitt++ also)
14:41:59 <dhanesh95> .thank cprofitt
14:41:59 <zodbot> dhanesh95 thinks cprofitt is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to cprofitt++ also)
14:42:00 <jflory7> Okay, with that, we'll wrap up on ticket discussion and move on
14:42:10 <jflory7> #topic Upcoming Tasks
14:42:15 <jflory7> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-26/f-26-marketing-tasks.html
14:42:20 <jflory7> #info (1) Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (Tue 2017-02-28)
14:42:21 <mailga> dhanesh95: design team always help us.
14:42:25 <bkp> cproffit++
14:42:26 <jflory7> #info (2) Create Talking Points (start: Tue 2017-02-28)
14:42:31 <jflory7> #info (3) Proposed Changes Profiles (start: Tue 2017-03-07)
14:42:38 <jflory7> #info (4) Email WGs to solicit bullet points for Alpha release announcement (start: Thu 2017-03-09)
14:42:53 <jflory7> ^ mostly talking point-related tasks ;)
14:42:59 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
14:43:06 * mailga still thinks the point #3 is not for us.
14:43:11 <cprofitt> thanks dhanesh95
14:43:29 <jflory7> Okay – the only topic I had for open floor was related to the Council mailing list thread mailga linked about a Marketing sub-project report.
14:43:37 <jflory7> mailga: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree there too.
14:43:55 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZFFCMP4ZX4HIOZTRPMHLZLVJOSBHKVEV/
14:44:16 <mailga> the first question about this is:
14:44:33 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Council wants sub-project reports from the various teams and groups in Fedora from now to April. This would be a short update about what we're working on and any details we want to share with the Council.
14:44:33 <mailga> do we consider magazine part of mktg?
14:44:47 <jflory7> mailga: Even for sub-project report, I strongly think we should keep them separate.
14:45:03 <jflory7> To me, there's little doubt that Magazine and Marketing are different now
14:45:17 <mailga> jflory7: mattdm just replied in ML... :-D
14:45:28 <mailga> jflory7: correct.
14:46:07 <jflory7> mailga: Okay, great, I see it now too
14:46:11 <jflory7> I'll +1 in the thread later.
14:46:12 <jflory7> For now...
14:46:44 <jflory7> I can create a ticket of our own in the Pagure to track the prep work for a Marketing sub-project report to the Council. I think the March 22nd date sounds like a reasonable goal.
14:46:48 <jflory7> What do you all think?
14:47:18 <mailga> I think we should attend bringing some proposal (just like the ones we said in telegram).
14:47:32 <mailga> jflory7: each date works for me.
14:48:01 <jflory7> mailga: I also agree.
14:48:25 <jflory7> Okay, I will file the ticket for now, and then we can add this to the discussion next week too.
14:48:47 <mailga> jflory7: if you file a ticket I'll write down my proposal there.
14:48:53 <jflory7> #action jflory7 File a new ticket for Council sub-project report in next month
14:48:59 <jflory7> mailga: That would be great!
14:49:02 <jflory7> mailga++
14:49:11 <x3mboy> !
14:49:21 <jflory7> x3mboy: Go for it!
14:49:36 <x3mboy> I have a question regarding social media
14:49:42 <jflory7> Sure, what's up?
14:49:46 <x3mboy> I'm a heavy user of telegram
14:49:52 * mailga says no cookies mean tha jflory is the only one which is giving them to me. :-D
14:50:08 <jflory7> mailga: Heheh... ;)
14:50:13 <x3mboy> And I have Fedora News channel addded in my account
14:50:21 <x3mboy> But is moving really slow
14:50:24 <bkp> x3mboy: Going to step in right here. Telegram is not social media
14:50:30 <bkp> It is a chat service.
14:50:39 <x3mboy> bkp, agreed
14:50:44 <bkp> Social media in our context is broadcast channels
14:50:57 <x3mboy> But is called that way now, like whatsapp is called Social Media as well
14:51:00 <jflory7> bkp: We do have a Telegram news channel for Fedora that people subscribe too (kind of like a group people can "follow" for news and updates about Fedora).
14:51:04 <bkp> It is not either
14:51:22 <bkp> Sure, like a mailing list of interesting links.
14:51:44 <jflory7> Not exactly social media, but the Fedora Project News group, as we use it, has the same functionality as FB / Twitter, etc. It has ~400+ followers if I remember right.
14:51:52 <jflory7> Yeah, like a mailing list of sorts.
14:52:04 <jflory7> But there's no discussion allowed in the group.
14:52:19 <bkp> But this kind of bugs me, because I see people putting effort into things like this and not adding content to universal, public social media outlets.
14:52:22 <x3mboy> But Fedora News os moving slow, not even publishing articles from magazine
14:52:27 <x3mboy> That's my question
14:52:35 <x3mboy> How is this being managed?
14:52:36 <cprofitt> added all the links and a few more to the ticket.
14:52:46 <jflory7> cprofitt++ Great, thanks! Much appreciated.
14:52:49 <bkp> How is what managed
14:53:48 <jflory7> bkp: I understand the point you're making with regards to content there not being public (or at least being as easily shareable in the same way as other platforms).
14:54:49 <jflory7> But I think in regards to whether we should use it, I think trying to maintain the same level of activity in that group as other platforms is helpful. The problem now that I think x3mboy is pointing out is that it does not receive the same activity as our other platforms.
14:54:55 <bkp> It seems like if we did the public channels more, we could inform internal and external audiences at the same time.
14:55:10 <cprofitt> is there a way to automate the sharing of items to the Telegram group?
14:55:17 <x3mboy> jflory7, exactly
14:55:29 <x3mboy> cprofitt, maybe with a bot
14:55:31 <cprofitt> That would likely be the most consistent
14:55:43 <jflory7> cprofitt: I'm sure it would be possible - it would be great if it could pull posts from Facebook or Google+
14:55:47 <dhanesh95> cprofitt: It is possible. Need to figure out how
14:55:50 <jflory7> Maybe I can look into that...
14:56:01 <x3mboy> I think there is a rss feed bot
14:56:28 <jflory7> x3mboy: Want to sync up with me after the meeting to see if we can figure something out to automate this?
14:56:30 <x3mboy> https://storebot.me/bot/rssybot
14:56:38 <x3mboy> jflory7, sure
14:57:01 <cprofitt> x3mboy++ jflory7++ thanks for looking at that. I am not a Telegram user so I would be a bit lost.
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14:57:33 <jflory7> #action jflory7 / x3mboy Discuss possibility of using a bot to sync social media platform (e.g. FB / Twitter / RSS) to Fedora Projects News Telegram group
14:57:57 <jflory7> Okay. Anything else for today's meeting?
14:58:04 <mailga> nope
14:58:42 <bkp> Pardon my abruptness, but is it really that important to maintain content for a closed private feed?
14:58:42 * cprofitt shakes head no
14:58:55 <bkp> Next: Slack? Whatsapp?
14:59:38 <bkp> Meanwhile, major broadcast channels still get nothing, because no one uses the social media mailing list to suggest found links.
15:00:03 <cprofitt> bkp - telegram is private?
15:00:06 <bkp> Sorry, I have a nasty cold, but I think a bit more focus on the broader channels would be a better plan.
15:00:20 <bkp> You have to be invited, don't you?
15:00:28 <jflory7> bkp: I think it's a fair question. But I think the level of impact that maintaining this group can provide is helpful. The ability to forward messages to other groups is the same effect of sharing things on Facebook.
15:00:51 <jflory7> Anyone is able to join the Fedora news group and they'll get push notifications on their device of choice for new posts.
15:00:58 <bkp> jflory7: And if that were being done more, I would not be kvetching
15:01:13 <jflory7> I would rather find a clever way of automating it so we can engage that community without putting human hours into maintaining the platform.
15:02:16 <cprofitt> I agree with both jflory7 and bkp
15:02:34 <cprofitt> automate the Telegram -- engage users there. I would like to know more about the areas bkp is concerned with though.
15:02:46 <cprofitt> Perhaps there is a way to do both.
15:03:03 * jflory7 nods
15:03:08 <Amita> we already have new group, and after a while it feels like spam..
15:03:11 <bkp> cprofitt: More content for Facebook, Twitter, G+, Diaspora (Reddit is fine)
15:03:27 * cprofitt nods to bkp
15:03:29 <Amita> I am not sure.. but may be we would like to consider filtering the information we would like to send
15:03:29 <mailga> bkp: IMO we are mktg and all the tools useful to reach our targets are welcome. Developing them is another question.
15:03:52 <cprofitt> bkp would you want Fed Mag articles to hit Facebook, Twitter, G+ etc?
15:04:03 <bkp> I find what I can on a daily basic, but I am only one pair of eyes[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C
15:04:12 <bkp> They do that already.
15:04:24 <cprofitt> or are you looking for people mentioning Fedora to find content?
15:04:34 <bkp> Though the automation is hit or miss.
15:04:54 <bkp> cprofitt: That too
15:05:06 * cprofitt nods...
15:05:29 <bkp> I would be willing to discuss some genetal tactics.
15:05:36 <bkp> *general
15:05:41 <bkp> (Cold meds)
15:05:59 <bkp> Whoops, the time.
15:06:05 <cprofitt> I know I promote Fed Mag articles manually... but perhaps we should look at the other social media strategies outside this meeting. I might have some cycles to assist.
15:06:13 <bkp> cprofitt: +1
15:06:17 <jflory7> +1 too.
15:06:46 * jflory7 has to run out and get ready for his next class
15:07:13 <jflory7> I'll go ahead and close the meeting + send minutes, but discussion in #fedora-mktg is always encouraged :)
15:07:31 <bkp> I'll try not to be crabby.
15:07:32 <jflory7> Thanks everyone for coming out today, nice to see this much participation and energy again. :)
15:07:51 <dhanesh95> .thank jflory7
15:07:51 <zodbot> dhanesh95 thinks jflory7 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to jflory7++ also)
15:07:53 <dhanesh95> .thank Amita
15:07:54 <jflory7> bkp: I think 10-14 hours of flying, with a cold, will do that to anyone. ;)
15:07:57 <zodbot> dhanesh95 thinks Amita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to Amita++ also)
15:08:00 <jflory7> #endmeeting