17:28:48 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2016-11-29) 17:28:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 29 17:28:48 2016 UTC. The chair is jflory7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:28:48 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:28:48 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2016-11-29)' 17:28:54 <jflory7> #meetingname commops 17:28:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops' 17:29:01 <jflory7> #nick commops 17:29:06 <jflory7> #topic Agenda 17:29:13 <jflory7> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-11-29 17:29:19 <jflory7> #info (1) Roll Call / Q&A 17:29:24 <jflory7> #info (2) Announcements 17:29:29 <Rhea> .hello rhea 17:29:30 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com> 17:29:30 <jflory7> #info (3) Action items from last meeting 17:29:35 <jflory7> #info (4) Tickets 17:29:40 <jflory7> #info (5) Community Blog 17:29:45 <jflory7> #info (6) Release Schedule 17:29:51 <jflory7> #info (7) Open Floor 17:29:55 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call / Q&A 17:30:02 <jflory7> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas 17:30:09 <jflory7> #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ] 17:30:13 <jflory7> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask. 17:30:20 <Rhea> #info Radka Janek; UTC+1; CommOps, Diversity, DotNet,... 17:30:32 <jflory7> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Magazine, Marketing, Ambassadors, Diversity, Join SIG, sysadmin-badges, and more 17:30:35 * mailga around. 17:30:55 * jflory7 wonders if his IRC client is lagging again or if zodbot is just sleepy 17:31:03 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja 17:31:06 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com> 17:31:20 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S;UTC-6;Commops, Metrics, Packaging and more 17:31:56 <dhanesh95> #info Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC+5:30, CommOps, Marketing, ML, Packaging, Python 17:32:25 <jflory7> Rhea, mailga, bt0, dhanesh95: Greetings! 17:32:32 <jflory7> #chair Rhea mailga bt0 dhanesh95 jflory 17:32:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea bt0 dhanesh95 jflory jflory7 mailga 17:32:34 <bt0> Hello Everybody o/ 17:32:37 <Rhea> <3 17:32:43 <dhanesh95> jflory, Rhea, mailga, et al. o/ 17:33:02 <jflory7> Keeping my web client in here because my IRC client seems to be having issues staying connected or something. I've been having huge delays all morning. 17:33:07 <jflory7> Anywho... 17:33:50 <jflory7> Sorry for the unplanned absences for the last few weeks. I didn't expect to have to miss out more than the times I had put into Fedocal. But I think things will be getting back on track now. :) 17:34:02 <dhanesh95> Yayy!! 17:34:10 <bt0> :) 17:34:18 <mailga> 7me thinks it's time for jflory7 to make a conference call.... ;-) 17:34:23 <jflory7> I think in reflection, we bit off a little more than we could chew at once, so I think the moral to that story is to focus more intently on some key tasks and try to close out some of those tickets. 17:34:40 <jflory7> mailga: Heheh, not this time... :) 17:35:21 <mailga> jflory7: can I propose to Freenode to ban people with than as a nick? 17:35:53 <jflory7> Oh, hahah, I didn't notice that was a nick in here... I imagine they get a lot of pings. :P 17:36:12 <jflory7> Okay, I think we can go ahead and press on with the usual planned events for today! Anyone else who arrives can chime in as they arrive. 17:36:21 <jflory7> #topic Announcements 17:36:28 <jflory7> #info === "Flock Stories 2016, Episode 5: Haïkel Guémar" === 17:36:32 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-haikel-guemar/ 17:36:39 <jflory7> #info Haïkel Guémar (hguemar / number80) is a long-time Fedora contributor passionate about on-boarding new users into Fedora. Learn more in his interview with Chris Ward as the last episode of the Flock Stories 2016 series! 17:36:45 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora at PyCon CZ 2016" === 17:36:50 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-at-pycon-cz-2016/ 17:36:56 <jflory7> #info Fedora Ambassadors in the Czech Republic and around Europe attended PyCon CZ in Brno, Czech Republic. Learn more about what happened at PyCon (including the Pythonic staff of enlightenment) in ishcherb's event report! 17:37:22 <jflory7> mhroncok: I know it's a little late now, but I plan to fix the image anyways after this meeting... sorry for missing the window earlier this morning. But I will fix it. :) 17:37:27 <jflory7> #info === Opinions needed: Fedora + freenode partnership article === 17:37:32 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/commops@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6QOXULA7MW6MFTKMBVFWDRZK35JCUKTI/ 17:37:38 <jflory7> #info We're working on doing a partnership with freenode to publicize the open source projects living on freenode. A first draft of an initial article to publish was shared on the mailing list. Please take a moment to review and offer any feedback. 17:37:41 <jflory7> <eof> 17:37:48 <jflory7> Anyone else have any announcements they would like to share? 17:38:08 <dhanesh95> Nothing here 17:38:12 <bt0> no 17:38:46 <jflory7> Other than a small party for what seems to have been a successful launch week for F25! \o/ 17:38:50 <jflory7> Heheh 17:38:56 <jflory7> Alrighty, announcements, going once... 17:39:06 <jflory7> Going twice... 17:39:11 <jflory7> Going thrice... 17:39:18 <jflory7> #topic Action items from last meeting 17:39:24 <jflory7> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/commops/commops.2016-11-01-16.29.html 17:39:30 <jflory7> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 17:39:39 <jflory7> #info === jflory7 Open up discussion about Fedora Appreciation Day date on the mailing list === 17:40:19 <jflory7> #info - Better done as a ticketed discussion - we can talk in a meeting, update the ticket, and go from there. We have extra time to plan this now until we determine a date to shoot for. 17:40:21 <Rhea> I have an announcement that is somewhat irrelevant but also cool, we got dotnet working on F25 17:40:30 <Rhea> :D 17:40:38 <jflory7> Rhea++ Wow, awesome! Congrats!! That's a huge milestone! 17:40:44 <jflory7> #info === jflory7 Take the discussion points from Marketing pow-wow meeting, lay out the earlier problems, expand on solutions, and try to offer mock implementations in the Marketing ticket === 17:40:52 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Take the discussion points from Marketing pow-wow meeting, lay out the earlier problems, expand on solutions, and try to offer mock implementations in the Marketing ticket 17:41:12 <jflory7> #info jflory7 will do this today, guaranteed, no exceptions, no ifs, ands, or buts 17:41:27 <jflory7> #info === jflory7 Post to the mailing list breaking down how to help with Ticket #93 === 17:41:53 <jflory7> #info - This ticket is added to the meeting agenda for today, and we should discuss together how to break it down and move forward with this into smaller tasks for CommOpsers to take on 17:41:54 <dhanesh95> Rhea++ 17:41:54 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for rhea changed to 5 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:07 * jflory7 appreciates Rhea keeping him responsible for these action items 17:42:09 <jflory7> #info === Rhea Update the #95 ticket after the first dotnet meeting === 17:42:40 <jflory7> Oops, I think you did this a long time ago :) 17:42:41 <jflory7> #undo 17:42:41 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jflory7 at 17:42:09 : === Rhea Update the #95 ticket after the first dotnet meeting === 17:42:47 <jflory7> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Update the #95 ticket after the first dotnet meeting === 17:42:56 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/95#comment-39699 17:43:06 <jflory7> #info === FranciscoD work on "Review existing roles and responsibilities of committees, find any other places where their roles may be explained (wiki pages, personal blog posts, etc.)." === 17:43:28 <jflory7> I think this was part of the Election ticket discussion, but I have that specially earmarked for discussing today. 17:43:49 <jflory7> I will re-action FranciscoD since his perspective as a former election wrangler will still be helpful here. 17:44:09 <dhanesh95> +1 17:44:09 <jflory7> #action FranciscoD Review existing roles and responsibilities of committees, find any other places where their roles may be explained (wiki pages, personal blog posts, etc.) === 17:44:35 <jflory7> And that's all the action items we have left cumulatively from the last few meetings. 17:44:37 <jflory7> #topic Tickets 17:44:45 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting 17:44:52 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #92 === 17:44:56 <jflory7> #info "Start a yearly Fedora Appreciation Day" 17:45:01 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/92 17:45:07 <jflory7> No new progress on this since last meeting. We decided it would be best to delay and make sure we have the time to properly plan this out and coordinate how we want to move forward. 17:45:24 <jflory7> So, the objective I was thinking we focus on now is trying to fit together a timeline for planning this and how we want to implement it. 17:45:38 <jflory7> I was hoping bexelbie might be available to offer input to this one too, but we can hopefully get him in the loop later on. 17:46:19 <jflory7> I suppose one of the first things we should do is choosing a month or date to use as a general target for when we want to implement a Fedora Appreciation Day. 17:46:56 <bt0> +1 17:47:50 <dhanesh95> jflory: Refresh my memory please.. How is this different than Hero's of Fedora? 17:48:12 <jflory7> Part of the idea for this that bexelbie had mentioned was trying to coordinate with a release cycle and Ambassador release parties. I'm skeptical on the point of using the release parties or local events as a place to focus on celebrating the day, since I think a notable portion of contributors would be isolated from that. On the other hand, I did like bexelbie's point about trying to coincide with a release cycle to gain some outside attention 17:48:12 <jflory7> and show off how awesome the Fedora community is. 17:48:21 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Yeah, it has been a while. I'll give a quick tl;dr: 17:49:11 <jflory7> So this idea was to have a day, or couple of days, for Fedora contributors to spend time saying "thanks" to each other for the work that they do in the project. It's similar in idea to the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day. 17:49:33 <jflory7> It could be in many small forms: IRC, email, or maybe even something more personal like a blog post or video 17:50:39 <Rhea> hmm 17:50:58 <jflory7> It can be as simple or complex as we wish to make it. The idea we had was to make the first run perhaps a little smaller and scale up as needed. We had a lot of awesome ideas there in the ticket that we can circle back around to once we establish a timeline. 17:51:41 <dhanesh95> jflory: I agree with your thoughts.. Merging this with release parties is not something I'm sure about too 17:51:49 <jflory7> #idea Current objective for Fedora Appreciation Day: Establish a timeline for planning by choosing a month or date to aim for, break up smaller tasks for how we can prepare for it (messaging, communication, options for contributors to thank each other) 17:52:21 <dhanesh95> Do we need to decide now jflory ? 17:52:27 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Yeah. I think the release parties would be awesome as a place to say "Thanks!" in person, but many people won't have that opportunity, and I want to make sure we're including the broad spectrum of people who contribute to Fedora. 17:52:39 <dhanesh95> jflory: +1 17:52:51 <bt0> +1 (I think february is fine) 17:53:03 <jflory7> dhanesh95: I don't think we have to choose a specific date right now, but we can maybe choose a timeframe to shoot for. Perhaps we could try to align with the summer right during F26. 17:53:14 <jflory7> Or we could go earlier... 17:53:24 <Rhea> a few weeks after release 17:53:31 <dhanesh95> bt0 thinks February is fine 17:54:27 <jflory7> For clarity, F26 is targeted for June 6th, 2017. 17:54:34 * jflory7 thinks for a second... 17:54:53 <dhanesh95> We want to conduct this once a year, right? 17:55:08 <bt0> yeah :) 17:55:41 <jflory7> We could try to plan this a few weeks after the release like Rhea suggested. If we are on top of planning, we could have articles on Fedora Magazine / CommBlog to ride the intense wave of a release cycle interest. And then a couple of weeks after, once things slow down, we could hold the day(s) to celebrate the community. 17:55:52 <jflory7> Yeah, probably once a year (for now, anyways). 17:56:11 <jflory7> What do you all think of aiming for late June (pending any delays in the F26 release)? 17:56:41 <dhanesh95> Late June sounds fine to me 17:57:13 <jflory7> I think it would also give us plenty, plenty of time to plan too, as long as we set milestones / deadlines for us to keep to 17:57:24 <bt0> it's ok for me too 17:57:44 <jflory7> Okay, awesome. 17:57:44 <mailga> +1 17:57:46 <dhanesh95> And I think we should keep it once a year only.. Let's not change that.. 17:58:38 <dhanesh95> .thank jflory7 17:58:38 <zodbot> dhanesh95 thinks jflory7 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to jflory7++ also) 17:58:44 <dhanesh95> This still works! :P 17:59:25 <jflory7> So I think we should *definitely* pull bexelbie in on this one as I imagine this is something he would like to help with too. For now, we can update the ticket and get bexelbie's thoughts on the dates. If he's good for that idea as well, then I say we try to set a date into the calendar and then work on two things immediately after: (1) a wiki page to hold key info about the event, and (2) an early CommBlog post to announce that it will be a 17:59:25 <jflory7> thing this summer 17:59:43 <jflory7> If no disagreements, then I'll log this to the minutes. 17:59:52 <dhanesh95> +1 18:00:00 <Rhea> +1 18:00:40 <dhanesh95> It's hard to disagree on jflory7's decisions 18:00:46 <jflory7> #agreed Next steps will be to update ticket with proposed timeline for events, pending bexelbie's thoughts. After, we will try setting a date in the calendar. Then, we will (1) create a public wiki page to hold info, and (2) write a CommBlog post announcing it to come in the summer 18:01:30 <jflory7> dhanesh95: I find that creating small, reachable goals is easier to reach the big, abstract goals. :) 18:01:57 <jflory7> Once we hear back from bexelbie, we can then begin trying to break it up into action items for the different parts. Help will definitely be needed on this once we get it rolling. :) 18:02:10 <dhanesh95> jflory: +1 18:02:17 <jflory7> #action jflory Update Ticket #92 with the proposed timeline and agreed points after the meeting 18:02:19 <jflory7> #undo 18:02:19 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 18:02:17 : jflory Update Ticket #92 with the proposed timeline and agreed points after the meeting 18:02:24 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Update Ticket #92 with the proposed timeline and agreed points after the meeting 18:02:45 <jflory7> Seems like the lag issues I was having earlier are gone, dropping my web client :P 18:03:03 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #93 === 18:03:07 <jflory7> #info "Elections: Better explain roles of Council and FESCo" 18:03:12 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/93 18:03:15 <jflory7> This ticket is becoming extremely relevant with the election cycle coming up soon. Let's discuss how we can break this task up and make it happen. 18:03:23 <jflory7> So, quick refresher on this one! 18:04:52 <jflory7> tl;dr: There is growing concern over participation in the Election cycles. Now that F25 has released, the December election cycle is right around the corner. It would be helpful to more clearly explain the roles of the groups that hold elections like the Fedora Council and FESCo. Once the descriptions are better explained or detailed, a CommBlog post can be posted and shared to help grow awareness for the coming Election cycle and what the roles 18:04:52 <jflory7> up for election exactly do. 18:05:16 <jflory7> The action items that I am envisioning on this ticket right now are... 18:06:35 <jflory7> (1) Someone reach out to the Council, either in IRC or on the mailing list, about why it will be helpful to better clarify the roles and responsibilities of the Council; work with the Council member(s) on rewriting some of the description and bring a short summary to share on the Community Blog 18:06:45 <jflory7> (2) ...same thing as above, but with FESCo. 18:06:47 <jflory7> meskarune: o/ 18:06:50 <meskarune> hey :) 18:06:53 <jflory7> #chair meskarune 18:06:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rhea bt0 dhanesh95 jflory jflory7 mailga meskarune 18:06:58 <jflory7> meskarune: Welcome, welcome :) 18:07:00 * Rhea waves 18:07:01 <meskarune> thanks 18:07:34 <jflory7> meskarune: For context, we are currently on Ticket #93 with regards to the electable bodies in Fedora, and how better communicating what they do will help boost participation. https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/93 18:07:53 <meskarune> oh cool 18:08:05 <meskarune> yeah, people want to know what htey are getting into before they jump in 18:08:19 <jflory7> The (1) and (2) above are the things I think were the next steps we can take to make this happen before the election cycle starts in December. Unfortunately, a tighter window on this one than we probably would have wanted, but I do think it can be done. 18:08:21 <jflory7> Exactly. 18:08:27 <meskarune> and also the benifits, like what sorts of skills would you improve and use 18:09:03 <meskarune> do you guys also have a way to help new council members? 18:09:08 <jflory7> #idea Better explaining roles and responsibilities of Council and FESCo so people know what they are expected to do if they choose to run 18:09:16 <meskarune> like, when a new person is elected do they get an older person as a mentor to help? 18:09:22 <meskarune> or is there a written guide? 18:09:26 <jflory7> #idea Go over benefits for running, e.g. the sorts of skills you would use and also improve on 18:09:38 <jflory7> meskarune: I don't know about FESCo, but I don't think this exists for the Council. 18:10:05 <jflory7> Would anyone be interested in helping tag-team this one? 18:10:07 <meskarune> oh, well I think people would be waaaaaaay more likely to join the council if there was some sort of "training" period to help them do the job well and get familiar 18:10:37 <meskarune> a lot of folks don't do things becuase they feel like they don't qualify or don't know enough 18:10:44 <meskarune> so lowering that barrier would be great 18:11:00 <jflory7> meskarune: I think you're absolutely right to that regard. Whether it's something we can implement in time for December, I'm not sure, but this is definitely a realistic goal to have for electable groups, I think. Especially if the person is a first-time candidate. 18:11:37 <dhanesh95> meskarune: +1.. Loved that idea 18:12:01 <jflory7> #idea Having a mentorship period or "training" for first-time candidates elected into the Council or FESCo 18:12:10 <meskarune> maybe a few council memmbers would volunteer to be mentors to the new folks, or at least be available for questions and stuff 18:12:19 <dhanesh95> jflory7: I'm ready to help in anyway I can 18:12:29 <jflory7> I definitely think the Council would be open to hear this idea. 18:12:39 <jflory7> Okay, cool! So, here's an idea... 18:12:45 <meskarune> is anyone here familiar enough with council jobs to write descriptions? 18:13:15 <dhanesh95> I'm just warming up to those concepts.. 18:14:21 <jflory7> dhanesh95: If you're up for it, you could reach out to the Council to work with them on updating the wiki page to better explain the roles, responsibilities, benefits, and skills needed to be a Council member. It would be best for us to work with the Council on this as current members are likely best equipped to help. I'm sure they would be receptive too. meskarune, if you think you are up for it, I think filing a ticket in the Council Pagure 18:14:21 <jflory7> about establishing mentorship / training for newcomers would be an awesome idea and would also be warmly received. I could help work on reaching out to FESCo. 18:14:58 <jflory7> Do these action items sound fair? You aren't obligated to say yes if you aren't sure if you have the time. :) But if you do, your help would be greatly appreciated! 18:15:00 <meskarune> ok 18:15:06 <dhanesh95> jflory7: I'm up for it.. Assign it to me.. Deadline? 18:15:20 <meskarune> does the council have a pagure? 18:15:33 <jflory7> dhanesh95: I think for you and me, we should definitely reach out before the end of the week. It's important we get this info before the election. 18:15:39 <jflory7> meskarune: They do! Let me grab the link. 18:15:47 <jflory7> End of week preferably being Friday, also 18:15:50 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Aye aye captain! 18:16:05 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issues 18:16:10 <jflory7> Okay, action items away: 18:16:36 <dhanesh95> I think if we get the information we need as soon as possible, this is a two day job.. 18:16:42 <jflory7> #action meskarune File a ticket in the Fedora Council Pagure suggesting the idea of having a mentorship or training period for first-time candidates who are elected into the Council to help them get started and familiar with the position 18:16:53 <jflory7> dhanesh95: How about Thursday? :) 18:17:33 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Thursday is too soon for me.. I'm also busy with my graduation project 18:17:54 <jflory7> Okay, Friday isn't a problem if you still want to shoot for that. :) 18:18:04 <jflory7> Or if it's easier, the weekend is fine too. 18:18:05 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Friday is doable.. I'll hire a few robots.. :P 18:18:28 * dhanesh95 would love to borrow a few of jflory7's robots 18:18:33 <jflory7> Okay, sounds good. Hopefully should be a quick email to start the discussion so they have time to think about it. 18:18:44 <jflory7> #action dhanesh95 Reach out to the Fedora Council, either on the mailing list or IRC, to work with them on updating the wiki page to better explain the roles, responsibilities, benefits, and skills needed to be a Council member no later than end of day, Friday, Dec. 2, 2016 18:19:05 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Reach out to FESCo, either on the mailing list or IRC, to work with them on updating the wiki page to better explain the roles, responsibilities, benefits, and skills needed to be a FESCo member, no later than end of day, Friday, Dec. 2, 2016 18:19:20 <jflory7> Awesome! Thanks for helping step up, dhanesh95 and meskarune :) 18:19:23 <jflory7> .thanks dhanesh95 18:19:25 <jflory7> .thanks meskarune 18:19:35 <jflory7> Oh, and since it's a new release... dhanesh95++ meskarune++ 18:19:35 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for dhanesh95 changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:19:36 <dhanesh95> .welcome jflory7 18:19:39 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for meskarune changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:19:43 <dhanesh95> jflory7++ 18:19:50 <jflory7> Oops, it was .thank, not .thanks. :P 18:19:57 * dhanesh95 thinks we need a welcome command too.. :P 18:20:12 <jflory7> #agreed Action items delegated, will check in on progress next meeting! 18:20:22 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #48 === 18:20:27 <jflory7> #info "[Onboarding Series] Marketing" 18:20:32 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/48 18:20:37 <jflory7> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/commops/commops.2016-10-18-16.30.log.html#l-219 18:20:42 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Heh, that would be nice. 18:20:46 <jflory7> So, quick update for this ticket... 18:21:13 <dhanesh95> Ohh, we still have this in the pipeline? 18:21:55 <jflory7> There really isn't much new to discuss here, but I wanted to include it in the agenda because it was a great discussion we had in October. I was actioned to follow up and summarize our points and bring them to the ticket, but I have vowed I will have this done before the end of the day, today. Next week, we should actually have more to discuss, and I also hope to better integrate the rest of the Marketing team on their mailing list once we have 18:21:55 <jflory7> the points organized into a proposal. 18:22:05 <jflory7> So, for now, I'm going to double my earlier action. :P 18:22:31 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Really do update Ticket #48 today with the key points discussed in Oct. 18 meeting, share with Marketing mailing list to have more to discuss next week 18:22:56 <jflory7> Okay, and that wraps up all of the tickets I had placed on the agenda! 18:23:07 <dhanesh95> I remember having a long conversation over this ticker 18:23:12 <dhanesh95> ticket* 18:23:35 <Rhea> pfft 18:24:01 <jflory7> dhanesh95: I know I didn't get back to you on the EDU talking points yet. For now, I'm about to entering finals, so I'm trying to keep activity levels low in prep for the next couple of weeks. Let's pick it up again after we close out some of these tickets we currently have on the meeting agenda. 18:24:15 <jflory7> I feel bad that I never got back to you on that, but I haven't forgotten to do it. 18:24:37 <dhanesh95> jflory7: No problem.. :) 18:24:37 <meskarune> jflory7: ok, I submitted the issue :D https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/79 18:24:57 <jflory7> Oh, awesome! Ninja speed! 18:24:58 <jflory7> .thank meskarune 18:24:58 <zodbot> jflory7 thinks meskarune is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to meskarune++ also) 18:24:59 <dhanesh95> Damn! That was fast meskarune 18:25:06 <meskarune> lol 18:25:23 <jflory7> Alright, so that wraps up tickets. Onto the Community Blog! 18:25:25 <jflory7> #topic Community Blog 18:25:31 <dhanesh95> jflory7's bots and meskarune's ninja speed.. Deadly combo 18:25:47 * dhanesh95 looks for his popcorn bag 18:25:57 <jflory7> #info How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go! 18:26:03 <jflory7> #info === This Week in CommBlog === 18:26:08 <jflory7> Err... 18:26:09 <jflory7> #undo 18:26:09 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jflory7 at 18:26:03 : === This Week in CommBlog === 18:26:15 <jflory7> #info === The past couple of weeks in CommBlog === 18:26:23 <jflory7> #info (1) "Where to point newcomers to Fedora" - FranciscoD++ 18:26:23 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for ankursinha changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:26:24 <dhanesh95> Hahahha.. XD 18:26:28 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/where-point-newcomers-fedora/ 18:26:34 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Nov. 10 - Nov. 29): 675 18:26:37 <Rhea> o.o 18:26:39 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2946 18:26:41 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD++ 18:26:41 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for ankursinha changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:26:46 <jflory7> #info (2) "Migration from Trac / FedoraHosted" - Amita++ 18:26:46 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for amsharma changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:26:50 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/migration-from-trac-fedorahosted/ 18:26:56 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Nov. 10 - Nov. 29): 273 18:27:02 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2520 18:27:08 <jflory7> #info (3) "Flock Stories 2016, Episode 3: Brian Exelbierd" - cward++ 18:27:09 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for cward changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:27:11 <dhanesh95> Amita++ 18:27:12 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for amsharma changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:27:15 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-brian-exelbierd/ 18:27:17 <dhanesh95> cward++ 18:27:17 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for cward changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:27:22 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Nov. 11 - Nov. 29): 32 18:27:27 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2737 18:27:35 <jflory7> #info (4) "Base Runtime and the Generational Core" - sgallagh++ 18:27:35 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for sgallagh changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:27:40 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/base-runtime-generational-core/ 18:27:45 <dhanesh95> sgallagh++ 18:27:45 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Nov. 15 - 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ishcherb++ 18:28:43 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for ishcherb changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:28:49 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-at-pycon-cz-2016/ 18:28:58 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Nov. 29): 171 18:29:05 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2988 18:29:10 <dhanesh95> ishcherb++ 18:29:10 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for ishcherb changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:29:12 <jflory7> #info === Coming Up in CommBlog === 18:29:19 <jflory7> #info (1) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F25 Final" - 2016 Dec. 1 - coremodule++ 18:29:20 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for coremodule changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:29:25 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3050&preview=1&_ppp=3575de209b 18:29:36 <jflory7> #info (2) "Celebrating Fedora 25 with freenode" - jflory7 18:29:37 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=3065&preview=1&_ppp=ed70b52525 18:29:43 <jflory7> #info (3) "Freenode cloaks for Fedora Contributors" - dhanvi 18:29:46 <dhanesh95> coremodule++ 18:29:46 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for coremodule changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:29:48 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2999&preview=1&_ppp=1787e4c1e9 18:29:50 <dhanesh95> jflory7++ 18:29:52 <jflory7> <eof> 18:29:53 <dhanesh95> dhanvi++ 18:29:54 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for dhanvi changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:30:05 <jflory7> That's all the CommBlog coverage I have. :) 18:30:08 <jflory7> Oh, and— 18:30:30 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Update featured image in PyCon CZ article to use an actual picture of Brno, as provided by mhroncok 18:30:51 <jflory7> Anything else for the CommBlog...? 18:30:54 <dhanesh95> mhroncok++ 18:30:55 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for churchyard changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:31:05 <jflory7> Yeah, mhroncok++ for sure! 18:31:07 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for churchyard changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:31:12 <dhanesh95> You get a cookie, and you get a cookie.. :P 18:31:15 <jflory7> CommBlog, going once... 18:31:25 <jflory7> Going twice... 18:31:30 <jflory7> Going thrice... 18:31:32 <dhanesh95> Sold! 18:31:35 <jflory7> #topic Release Schedule 18:31:41 <jflory7> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-key-tasks.html 18:31:46 <jflory7> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-26/f-26-key-tasks.html 18:31:52 <jflory7> #info (1) Fedora 23 EOL auto closure (Tue 2016-12-20) 18:31:59 <jflory7> #info (2) Change Checkpoint: Proposals requiring mass rebuild submission deadline (Tue 2017-01-10) 18:32:10 <Rhea> byee F23 18:32:18 <jflory7> I think the Magazine will cover the F23 EoL article, so I won't action that to the CommBlog 18:32:24 <jflory7> .bye F23 18:32:30 * Rhea waves 18:32:35 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor 18:32:46 <jflory7> Phew! We made good time today. 18:32:57 <jflory7> Anyone have anything they want to share or discuss during open floor? 18:32:57 <dhanesh95> 28 mins remaining 18:33:13 * mailga is still reading the 27th row..... 18:33:16 <jflory7> Better time left over than time gone over. :) 18:33:28 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Do you have the links to council's wiki pages? 18:33:36 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Ah, yeah, just a second: 18:34:07 <jflory7> mailga: We did move pretty quickly today... hope it wasn't too fast. 18:34:34 <jflory7> dhanesh95: While I have it in my clipboard, here is their mailing list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org 18:34:46 <jflory7> And wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council 18:34:54 <mailga> jflory7: everything is too fast for an older man.... :-D 18:35:01 <dhanesh95> jflory7:Gentle reminder, we haven't included wiki gardening in our agenda for quite some time now 18:35:11 <Rhea> i'm trying to put an agenda together, for dotnet meeting (in 25 minutes) on the side... sorry i'm a bit quiet o.o 18:35:25 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Specifically, we'd likely want to expand this section with some more concrete details and examples, along with the other things discussed earlier. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council#Responsibilities 18:35:44 <jflory7> mailga: At least everything is being logged for later reading too. :) 18:36:02 <mailga> jflory7: sadly true.... ah ah ah ah 18:36:12 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Got it.. Thanks 18:36:13 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Ohh, yeah... I think with the wiki tasks for Council and FESCo, we might have our hands full, but I'll make a note to add it to next week's agenda. 18:36:39 <dhanesh95> jflory7: +1 18:36:40 <jflory7> Rhea: No worries, you took the baton from me for the past couple of weeks so you're more than welcome to focus on getting ready for the next meeting! 18:36:48 <jflory7> Anyways, I think we're all good to go? 18:36:55 <jflory7> Last call for discussion, going once... 18:37:01 <dhanesh95> We had a new member joining us a couple of days ago, right? 18:37:06 <jflory7> Going twice... 18:37:14 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Ooh, yeah, I replied to their intro on the mailing list this morning. 18:37:25 <jflory7> Going thrice... 18:37:40 <meskarune> oh nice :D 18:37:42 <jflory7> dhanesh95: Feel free to send your personal greetings too, if you'd like (and have time!). 18:37:44 <dhanesh95> jflory7: Awesome.. I was worried no on replied her.. :P 18:37:53 <dhanesh95> one* 18:37:55 <meskarune> I think you're good 18:38:07 <Rhea> I have a huge backlog of emails that i stil didnt have time to look at 18:38:14 <jflory7> Thanks for coming out folks! As always, I truly appreciate your interest and participation in the team. Hope to see you all next week! 18:38:17 <jflory7> #endmeeting