13:03:09 <Rhea> #startmeeting Fedora DotNet (2016-11-04) 13:03:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Nov 11 13:03:09 2016 UTC. The chair is Rhea. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:03:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:03:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_dotnet_(2016-11-04)' 13:03:15 <Rhea> #meetingname dotnet 13:03:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'dotnet' 13:03:20 <Rhea> #nick dotnet 13:03:26 <Rhea> #topic Agenda 13:03:34 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:DotNet_2016-11-11 13:03:38 <Rhea> #info (1) Roll Call 13:03:41 <Rhea> #info (2) Announcements 13:03:46 <Rhea> #info (3) Action items from our previous meeting 13:03:49 <Rhea> #info (4) Tickets 13:03:52 <Rhea> #info (7) Open Floor 13:03:57 <Rhea> #topic Roll Call 13:04:01 <Rhea> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas 13:04:13 <Rhea> #action dotnet New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the DotNet mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DotNet ] 13:04:15 <Rhea> If this is your first time at a DotNet meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask. 13:04:19 <Rhea> .hello rhea 13:04:20 <zodbot> Rhea: rhea 'Radka Janek' <radka.janek@redhat.com> 13:04:21 <Rhea> :D 13:04:24 <tpokorra> .hello tpokorra 13:04:25 <zodbot> tpokorra: tpokorra 'Timotheus Pokorra' <timotheus.pokorra@solidcharity.com> 13:04:35 <rkieley> .hello rkieley 13:04:36 <Rhea> #info Radka Janek; UTC+1; CommOps, Diversity, DotNet,... 13:04:36 <zodbot> rkieley: Sorry, but you don't exist 13:04:52 <Rhea> rip 13:04:56 <rkieley> still a ghost it seems... what do I need to do to fix that? :) 13:05:34 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja 13:05:35 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com> 13:05:36 <Rhea> It's'looking for the parameter in the fedora account system (FAS) 13:05:51 <Rhea> rkieley: basically, this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet/Join 13:05:56 <rkieley> k I've got something amiss there then, will take a look 13:05:57 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S;UTC-6;Commops, Metrics, Packaging and more. 13:06:15 <bt0> Hello Everybody o/ 13:06:41 * Rhea waves intensively 13:06:48 <Rhea> okay sooo 13:06:51 <rkieley> .hello roddiekieley 13:06:52 <zodbot> rkieley: roddiekieley 'Roddie Kieley' <rkieley@unifiedsoftworx.com> 13:06:58 <rkieley> better 13:06:58 <Rhea> #topic Announcements 13:07:00 <Rhea> Nothing else from me, does anyone have anything to add? 13:07:13 <Rhea> For announcements i mean.. 13:07:24 <Rhea> I didn't see anything interesting happening on the dotnet scene... 13:07:29 <bt0> no 13:08:02 <Rhea> omajid packaged 1.1 for RH this week, but he's missing it seems, I wanted to ask whether it's the preview1 or he went from the source 13:08:31 <Rhea> I was a bit too busy so I didn't look at it.. oh well 13:09:05 <rkieley> me neither :( 13:09:17 <Rhea> #topic Action items from our previous meeting 13:09:18 <Rhea> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 13:09:29 <Rhea> #info === [INCOMPLETE] Rhea Create a ticket about updating Fedora developer website with info about dotnet. === 13:09:31 <Rhea> #action Rhea Create a ticket about updating Fedora developer website with info about dotnet. 13:10:21 <Rhea> I did not poke about that, I'll take a look at the process about that later next week, will be smarter then :P 13:10:38 <tpokorra> I did that for the mono pages, you let me know if you have questions 13:10:56 <Rhea> Oh awesome 13:11:16 <Rhea> If I understand that correctly, we have to file a ticket with infra right? 13:11:22 <tpokorra> we probably have to share the space under c# anyway between mono and dotnet 13:11:33 <tpokorra> you can do a pull request against that website repo 13:11:40 <Rhea> Oh even easier 13:11:41 <tpokorra> it is on github I thinkg 13:11:47 <rkieley> that would make sense, and probably good from an end developer pov 13:11:52 <Rhea> Yeah I'll take a look at it 13:11:56 <Rhea> Yep 13:12:05 <tpokorra> https://github.com/developer-portal/content 13:12:08 <Rhea> That should contain info about using dotnet in fedora... 13:12:52 <Rhea> Okay moving on 13:13:01 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Split the wiki page into wiki/dotnet which will contain info about dotnet in general, running it on Fedora, current limitations, known issues and workaround; and wiki/SIGs/dotnet with organization side of things. === 13:13:02 <Rhea> #info Marked this as complete, for now, we will keep this in the ticket. (more info under next topic) 13:13:10 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] dotnet Import the meeting to your calendar. === 13:13:13 <Rhea> #info Please if you haven't done so, make sure to add the meeting to your calendar. 13:13:37 <Rhea> Please if you haven't fixed the meeting thing in your calendar, do so, and actually nect action item is relevant 13:13:45 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Create another email about meeting time to make sure that people can attend. === 13:13:47 <Rhea> #info If you did not reply to my email, today would be the time, so we can maybe fix the time next week... 13:14:08 <Rhea> I'll also reply to it to remind people... :p 13:14:19 <Rhea> I don't see this time working simply 13:14:21 <rkieley> is it still between this time slot and tuesday 7pm utc? 13:14:50 <Rhea> We are missing Omajid, Takayoshi, Dave is hiding somewhere, ... 13:14:57 <Rhea> Not coowl 13:15:12 <rkieley> yeah pretty early for omajid and dave I think 13:15:22 <Rhea> rkieley: yes, i mean if we happen to discover anything else, sure i'll be happy with almost any time... 13:15:46 <bt0> here are 7am :( but i dont have problem with changes 13:16:49 <Rhea> I think that 7pm is just so much better, it works for US/EU well, the only thing that it won't work for is india, and Japan will be really early... 13:17:01 <Rhea> But considering that we have zero people in india 13:17:04 <Rhea> and one in Japan 13:17:07 <Rhea> we are cool 13:17:10 <rkieley> better balance for sure 13:17:19 <Rhea> (better than right now, missing 3 US people) 13:17:27 <tpokorra> 7pm is ok for me 13:17:46 <Rhea> Yeah will throw in another email after the meeting... 13:17:55 <rkieley> 7pm is good here too 13:18:11 <Rhea> #info === [COMPLETE] Rhea Create an issue in pageure to keep track of our libicu progress. === 13:18:30 <Rhea> (more info under tickets topic) 13:18:40 <Rhea> #info === [INCOMPLETE] dotnet Discuss dpendencies and modularity. === 13:18:57 <Rhea> I don't know if you guys have anything to add to deps/modularity here... 13:19:19 <Rhea> omajid and moto-timo were chatting about it iirc, neither one is present :< 13:19:33 <Rhea> RAWR 13:19:38 <Rhea> This meeting time sucks 13:19:40 <Rhea> :D 13:19:48 <rkieley> unfortunately no, only got a chance to skim the github issue where the problem was being addressed for f24? 13:20:02 <Rhea> #action dotnet Discuss dpendencies and modularity. 13:20:43 <Rhea> rkieley: If i understand it correctly, the 1.1 was supposed to have it fixed - but it is not fixed in the preview1 that is out... There is a pull request or something for the libicu dependency issue though 13:21:01 <rkieley> Rhea: https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/pull/7773? 13:21:13 <Rhea> I hope that they make it into 1.1 release, it would make our life easier 13:21:29 <Rhea> Yep that's the one i think 13:21:30 <rkieley> no doubt there 13:21:41 <rkieley> ran into the same trouble when trying to use powershell and msbuild 13:21:48 <rkieley> which makes sense 13:22:14 <Rhea> I'm kinda tempted to look at the code and all, like... why on earth was this a thing in the first place :D 13:22:47 <Rhea> #topic Tickets 13:22:49 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issues?tags=meeting 13:22:55 <Rhea> #info === Ticket #4 === 13:22:57 <Rhea> #info === "libicu" === 13:22:59 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issue/4 13:23:03 <Rhea> We just talked about that.. 13:23:06 <rkieley> someone probably saved some time when working toward task completion I'd bet 13:23:06 <Rhea> :] 13:23:15 <Rhea> Yeah maybe 13:23:37 <Rhea> "uh to make this work independent on version would take me 20 minutes to implement while i can cheat like this and do it in 5... mkay" 13:23:48 <Rhea> :D 13:23:57 <bt0> jeje :D 13:23:58 <Rhea> #info === Ticket #5 === 13:24:00 <Rhea> #info === "Wiki page" === 13:24:10 <Rhea> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-dotnet/issue/5 13:24:12 <Rhea> #info bt0 created Join page with some additional info that I missed, I went through all the pages again for another pass. We will need to come up with info for the wiki/dotnet page after we've got some packages... 13:24:20 <rkieley> cheating-- 13:24:28 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DotNet 13:24:32 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet 13:24:37 <Rhea> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/DotNet/Join 13:25:09 <Rhea> I'm gonna see if I can come up with some small info about "how to use dotnet in fedora" which we can use for both the dev page, and wiki... 13:25:40 <rkieley> summarizing the status re: f23/f24/f25 might be useful too 13:25:53 <bt0> yeah... Maybe a little I was impulsive 13:25:53 <Rhea> Not sure if I'll make it next week tho, hopefull it will be a bit more relaxed - I had a lot of extra stuff these two weeks due to taking over some other tasks from people who were busy with exams in one way or another (students/teachers) 13:26:17 <Rhea> rkieley +1 13:26:47 <bt0> rkieley +1 13:28:03 <bt0> Rhea, if you have some ideas about "how to use dotnet" I will write a draft and post in the ticket 13:28:11 <Rhea> #agreed Will add info about current status of dotnet in Fedora, how to install it for different versions (if its ok - rhea find out which sources we can use) and some basic info about using cli. 13:28:36 <Rhea> Yup 13:29:19 <Rhea> by sources i mean where can we tell people to download stuffs... speaking of which 13:29:34 <Rhea> Which copr was working and which one wasn't, tpokorra? 13:29:54 <Rhea> Yours was working? 13:29:55 <tpokorra> my copr was just an experiment. It never worked 13:30:11 <Rhea> Oh okay so it was Nemanja 13:30:19 <Rhea> speaking of - another person who's missing today 13:30:22 <Rhea> >_< 13:30:25 <tpokorra> yes, his copr just packaged the binaries 13:30:48 <tpokorra> download the Microsoft dotnet package, create a tarball of the binaries, upload to copr 13:31:13 <Rhea> Well, he used the libicu from f23 to get it working on 24 13:31:16 <Rhea> or something like that 13:31:17 <tpokorra> ah, ok 13:31:21 <tpokorra> I did not test it 13:31:44 <Rhea> heh neither did i... i always ran vagrant with rhel for my dotnet-poking 13:31:45 * pcreech late 13:31:53 * Rhea waves 13:32:30 <Rhea> Actually that's it for today from my side.. :D 13:32:32 <Rhea> #topic Open Floor 13:32:43 <Rhea> Kinda quick meeting due to peeeeeps missing... 13:32:58 <Rhea> But, I still think that it's better than nothing, at least it keeps us awake 13:33:17 <bt0> agree 13:33:22 <Rhea> Frankly I wouldn't even touch dotnet if it wasn't for the meeting, so yey 13:33:25 <Rhea> :D 13:33:28 <rkieley> true... seems like we still need more info on the libicu issue 13:34:11 <Rhea> We should pester them on github to find out if they will make it into 1.1 release or not... and i'd love to know "when" 13:35:33 <Rhea> mkay, i'm gonna jump on the email right away then, and we can end this 13:35:37 <Rhea> sorry pcreech :D 13:35:47 <pcreech> np, my fault for waking up late :) 13:35:51 <Rhea> #endmeeting