06:00:20 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 2 06:00:20 2016 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:20 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:20 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:25 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:25 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-11-02 06:00:26 <mfabian> ☺ 06:00:34 <epico> hi 06:00:38 <pravins> 😃 06:00:48 <pravins> hi epico :) 06:00:55 <pravins> #chair mfabian epico 06:00:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian pravins 06:01:13 <pravins> anyone else around? I think we will have quick meeting today. 06:01:20 <suanand> hi 06:01:22 <tagoh_> hi 06:01:28 <pravins> hi suanand tagoh_ :) 06:01:32 <pravins> #chair suanand tagoh_ 06:01:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:01:47 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:02:01 <pravins> Fedora 25 Final freeze was yesterday. 06:02:07 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule 06:02:10 <pravins> #info 2016-11-15 Fedora 25 Final Release (GA) 06:02:20 <pravins> Now only milestone remaining is final GA release. :) 06:02:25 <fujiwarat> hi 06:02:49 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :) 06:02:52 <pravins> #chair fujiwarat 06:02:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat mfabian pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:04:02 <juhp> hi 06:04:02 <pravins> For us, now its time to start thinking for Fedora 26. We have one open ticket for it, lets discuss it in that ticket. 06:04:05 <pravins> hi juhp :) 06:04:07 <pravins> #chair juhp 06:04:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:04:15 <pravins> #topic #70: Fedora 25 talking points 06:04:15 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/70 06:05:17 <pravins> Our i18n changes were missing from Beta release announcement on Fedora Magazine. 06:05:19 <pravins> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-release-fedora-25-beta/ 06:05:42 <pravins> I had quick query with stickster and now updated Fedora 25 talking page. 06:05:50 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points 06:06:08 <pravins> Do have a look at this page and see if we are missing any important point from there or not. 06:06:38 <juhp> I think we have to be careful about the emoji support 06:07:05 <juhp> it is only available by default for Asian (ibus) users afaiui 06:07:10 <pravins> ohh 06:07:31 <juhp> so saying it is by default is misleading 06:07:43 <juhp> any thoughts? 06:07:45 <pravins> i thought, its for default IBus installation. 06:07:56 <pravins> fujiwarat: is it intentional? 06:08:00 <mfabian> It is easy to enable though ... 06:08:24 <juhp> pravins: it is installed by default but not enabled without active ibus 06:08:33 <mfabian> Gnome does not use ibus if only keyboard layouts are used, so one needs at least one input method. 06:08:47 <juhp> mfabian: not obvious at all though alas 06:08:50 <mfabian> Asian users have an input method by default. 06:08:57 <juhp> hence my statement 06:09:17 <pravins> #info Emoji support is not default, one need to add at least one input method. 06:09:29 <mfabian> It would be nice to make this more obvious, but how? 06:09:37 <juhp> pravins: any rules for touching that page? 06:09:42 <juhp> mfabian: indeed 06:09:47 <paragan> oops sorry I am late 06:09:47 <paragan> Hi 06:09:50 <pravins> True, saying it is by default is wrong. Will update it. 06:11:09 <pravins> juhp: mostly based on Change proposals but not found any rule though 06:11:21 <pravins> hi paragan :) 06:11:21 <juhp> okay 06:11:23 <pravins> #chair paragan 06:11:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:12:41 <pravins> corrected. 06:13:11 * jflory7 is listening in 06:13:56 <pravins> hi jflory7 :) 06:14:03 <jflory7> o/ 06:14:23 <juhp> pravins: I tweaked it a bit - take a look later if you like 06:14:25 <pravins> Also we need to make sure I18n features are part of F25 Final release announcement. I will keep eye on that. 06:14:36 <pravins> juhp: sure, thanks :)( 06:14:42 <juhp> ah conflict 06:15:02 <pravins> ohh, i thought so ;) 06:15:25 <pravins> moving to next ticket. 06:15:26 <pravins> F25 Final release 06:15:27 <pravins> announcement 06:15:31 <pravins> #topic #64: Fedora 25 planning 06:15:31 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/64 06:15:48 <pravins> We dont have much to discuss about this ticket. Once F25 is released will close this ticket. 06:16:30 <pravins> Again thanks to fujiwarat mfabian and me (;)) for completing changes well in time. :) 06:16:37 <fujiwarat> Probably "Emoji feature is available with input method" something would be better. 06:17:38 <mfabian> Wouldn't it be nice if Gnome used ibus even if only a keyboard layout is configured by default? 06:17:51 <mfabian> To make the ibus emoji feature available by default... 06:17:53 <pravins> fujiwarat: yes, looks nice now. 06:18:10 <pravins> mfabian: good points, how much is the overhead on Gnome for it? 06:18:57 <mfabian> pravins: I think it would be mainly the resources ibus-daemon is using. Should be insignificant. 06:18:58 <pravins> #idea Fedora 26 - Making Emoji typing available to users with default install. 06:20:04 <pravins> Lets move into the topic :) 06:20:04 <pravins> #topic #69: Fedora 26 planning 06:20:04 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/69 06:21:02 <pravins> What are the ideas for Fedora 26? 06:21:14 <pravins> suanand: transstats? 06:21:31 <suanand> pravins, yes - have started working on it 06:21:55 <pravins> Unfortunately though thought but we not able to invest on Fedora Atomic. 06:22:01 <suanand> pravins - https://pagure.io/transdiff 06:22:09 <pravins> May be Fedora 26, we should only think for another product? Fedora Server and Could? 06:22:17 <pravins> s/could/Cloud 06:23:20 <pravins> #idea - For Fedora 26 - only bug fixes for Workstation and look into Fedora Atomic and Server for changes. 06:24:56 <pravins> Any out of the box idea for Fedora 26 for now? 06:25:05 <epico> maybe try to add libpinyin 2.0 changes? 06:25:23 <pravins> Though, i think we can wait and discus this in our next meeting also, when we will be in actually F26 development schedule :) 06:25:47 <pravins> epico: yeah, sure. nice idea !! 06:25:53 <epico> :) 06:26:01 <pravins> #idea To add libpinyin changes. 06:26:51 <pravins> Also, we can see from fonts side. 06:27:01 <pravins> #idea - See some changes specifically from font side. 06:27:40 <pravins> #action pravins to go through old discussions and add those points in idea for Fedora 26. 06:27:54 <pravins> #chair 06:27:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_ 06:28:13 <pravins> if you remember any points from old discussion, do update it on ticket. 06:28:39 <pravins> moving to next one. 06:28:40 <pravins> #topic #63: Bug triaging activity post F24 Beta release 06:28:40 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/63 06:28:59 <juhp> fujiwarat: sorry I probably overwrote your wiki edit 06:30:03 <fujiwarat> juhp: My wiki? 06:30:33 <pravins> I discussed with Satya earlier do this event post Diwali. So we should plan this ideally around next week. 06:31:51 <juhp> fujiwarat: guess not 06:32:25 <juhp> fujiwarat: maybe see what you think about the current emoji text 06:32:26 <pravins> In between: We have now https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans-bugs.lists.fedoraproject.org/ 06:32:54 <pravins> #info Trans bugs mailing list has been created. Translation team can track issues with mailing list as well. 06:34:24 <pravins> moving to nextone 06:34:30 <pravins> #topic #61: FTBFS bugs for Rawhide 06:34:30 <pravins> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/61 06:34:46 <pravins> Couple of issue out of this are still pending. dunno what should we do. 06:35:06 <pravins> .bug 1307714 06:35:06 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1307714 – libUnihan: FTBFS in rawhide - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1307714 06:35:43 <pravins> .bug 1308194 06:35:43 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1308194 – translate-toolkit: FTBFS in rawhide - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1308194 06:38:16 <pravins> let it open for some more time :) 06:38:23 <pravins> moving to last topic 06:38:24 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:38:47 <pravins> Please bring up offline topic 06:38:54 <pravins> s/offline/missed 06:41:05 <pravins> jflory7: did we missed Test day article in commblog? 06:41:23 <pravins> As per your last email, it was scheduled for "Tuesday, November 1, 2016" 06:42:01 * jflory7 goes to double-check 06:42:31 <jflory7> Baaaah 06:42:38 <jflory7> WordPress dropped it and didn't publish it 06:42:43 <jflory7> I will publish it immediately 06:43:23 <jflory7> pravins: Thanks for catching that 06:43:40 <jflory7> I will also post it on social media now as well 06:44:17 <anish_> hi 06:44:23 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/internationalization-test-day-report-fedora-25/ 06:44:33 <pravins> great, thanks jflory7 :) 06:44:36 <pravins> anish_: hi :) 06:45:02 <pravins> anish_: We are in last topic Open Floor, any thing you want to bring up? 06:45:18 <anish_> not much :) 06:45:29 <pravins> in between as juhp posted yesterday, we were in G11N FAD last year same day. :) 06:45:31 * anish_ read meeting logs 06:45:43 <anish_> cool 06:46:04 <pravins> ok, if nothing else lets close meeting in 2 minutes. 06:48:01 <pravins> Thanks all for nice meeting. 06:48:02 <pravins> #endmeeting