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#fedora-meeting: Fedora CommOps (2016-10-18)

Meeting started by jflory7 at 16:30:05 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Agenda (jflory7, 16:30:23)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-10-18 (jflory7, 16:30:29)
    2. (1) Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 16:30:35)
    3. (2) Announcements (jflory7, 16:30:37)
    4. (3) Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 16:30:41)
    5. (4) Tickets (jflory7, 16:30:45)
    6. (5) Community Blog (jflory7, 16:30:49)
    7. (6) Release Schedule (jflory7, 16:30:53)
    8. (7) Open Floor (jflory7, 16:30:59)

  2. Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 16:31:07)
    1. Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jflory7, 16:31:09)
    2. ACTION: commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ] (jflory7, 16:31:15)
    3. Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; CommOps, Magazine, Marketing, Ambassadors, Diversity Team, sysadmin-badges, and more (jflory7, 16:31:36)
    4. Alberto Rodriguez; UTC-5;Commops,Stats, Education, and more (bt0, 16:32:11)
    5. mailga; timezone Europe/Rome; mktg/ambassadors and some others (mailga, 16:32:47)
    6. ankursinha; time\one Europe/London (UTC+1); join/packaging/random tasks (FranciscoD, 16:34:48)
    7. Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC+5:30, CommOps, Packaging, Python (dhanesh95, 16:36:16)
    8. Aditya Konarde; UTC +5:30; Fedora* Python (adityakonarde, 16:38:51)

  3. Announcements (jflory7, 16:39:09)
    1. === FUDCon LATAM === (jflory7, 16:39:14)
    2. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-latam-2016-starts-today/ (jflory7, 16:39:19)
    3. FUDCon LATAM ended last week. Fedora contributors from all around the globe flocked to Puno, Perú for speaker talks, workshops, and collaboration to advance Fedora and its Four Foundations. You can read more in the Community Blog post, and there should be event reports popping up soon. (jflory7, 16:39:26)
    4. === "Fedora 25 Supplementary Wallpapers: Vote now!" === (jflory7, 16:39:32)
    5. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-25-wallpapers-vote-now/ (jflory7, 16:39:37)
    6. Fedora 25 supplementary wallpaper elections are open! If you are CLA+1 in the Fedora Account System, you can participate in the election and vote for your favorite wallpapers to be included in the upcoming Fedora 25 release. (jflory7, 16:39:43)
    7. === In the news: "Fedora 25 Beta Resets the Linux Performance Bar" === (jflory7, 16:39:58)
    8. http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83997.html (jflory7, 16:40:02)
    9. LinuxInsider covers some of the latest features and changes in the Fedora 25 Beta, and includes comments and a brief interview from mattdm. This article highlights many of the talking points generated in the past few weeks. It's clear they're making it easy for everyone to talk about what's new in Fedora 25! (jflory7, 16:40:13)
    10. https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/10/14/fedora-25-workstation-wayland-by-default-test-day-report/ (FranciscoD, 16:41:43)
    11. === Wayland Test Day results for F25 === (jflory7, 16:42:05)
    12. https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/10/14/fedora-25-workstation-wayland-by-default-test-day-report/ (jflory7, 16:42:10)
    13. The Test Day analysis for Wayland in Fedora 25 Beta is up! Check it out to see how last week's testing went. (jflory7, 16:42:43)

  4. Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 16:44:13)
    1. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-11/commops.2016-10-11-16.30.html (jflory7, 16:44:21)
    2. How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jflory7, 16:44:27)
    3. === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Promote Outreachy article on social media channels for final week of applications === (jflory7, 16:44:34)
    4. === skamath Follow up with Infrastructure team on fas=>bz email lookup rules and whether a fix can be made to gracefully handle failed lookups === (jflory7, 16:44:42)
    5. skamath not present, will follow up next week (jflory7, 16:45:03)
    6. ACTION: skamath Follow up with Infrastructure team on fas=>bz email lookup rules and whether a fix can be made to gracefully handle failed lookups (jflory7, 16:45:11)
    7. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 File ticket for looking into centralizing / making more clear what a member of Council or FESCo does, what their responsibilities are, and centralize the info in a wiki page or CommBlog article === (jflory7, 16:45:21)
    8. ACTION: jflory7 File ticket for looking into centralizing / making more clear what a member of Council or FESCo does, what their responsibilities are, and centralize the info in a wiki page or CommBlog article (jflory7, 16:45:33)
    9. ACTION: jflory7 Reach out to skamath about Infrastructure / Bugzilla+FAS lookup rules (jflory7, 16:46:06)
    10. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Begin drafting a Community Blog post for Fedora Appreciation Day === (jflory7, 16:46:17)
    11. ACTION: jflory7 Begin drafting a Community Blog post for Fedora Appreciation Day (jflory7, 16:46:25)
    12. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Post to the mailing list about selecting a new sub-project to work with on the on-boarding process === (jflory7, 16:46:31)
    13. ACTION: jflory7 Post to the mailing list about selecting a new sub-project to work with on the on-boarding process (jflory7, 16:46:37)
    14. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Open up discussion about Fedora Appreciation Day date on the mailing list === (jflory7, 16:46:44)
    15. ACTION: jflory7 Open up discussion about Fedora Appreciation Day date on the mailing list (jflory7, 16:46:50)
    16. === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Create initial wiki page for EDU talking points, share in ticket === (jflory7, 16:46:58)
    17. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/University_Involvement_Initiative/Talking_points (jflory7, 16:47:04)
    18. === skamath open a new ticket with information about g11n onboarding with inputs from pravins === (jflory7, 16:47:15)
    19. jflory7 will also follow-up with skamath via email on this one (jflory7, 16:47:33)

  5. Tickets (jflory7, 16:51:26)
    1. https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting (jflory7, 16:51:33)
    2. === Ticket #34, 48 === (jflory7, 16:52:11)
    3. "[Onboarding Series] [MASTER TICKET] Creating sub-project on-boarding badge series; Marketing" (jflory7, 16:52:53)
    4. https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/34 (jflory7, 16:53:01)
    5. https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/48 (jflory7, 16:53:04)
    6. Last week, we agreed that one of the two new sub-projects we would help focus on to review the on-boarding process was Marketing. (jflory7, 16:55:43)
    7. https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/ - for those that want to keep up with hubs development (FranciscoD, 16:55:55)
    8. === Problems / issues within Marketing === (jflory7, 16:59:00)
    9. IDEA: It is unclear what kind of tasks Marketing is working on during a release cycle and how to participate. They are not clearly defined in many places (and some places that have info are outdated). (jflory7, 16:59:32)
    10. IDEA: The tasks that are highly visible can be intimidating to a new contributor (e.g. contributing to the release announcement or creating talking points for editions and spins of Fedora, which requires a lot of cross-list communication and knowledge of where to go to find people in Fedora). (jflory7, 17:00:20)
    11. IDEA: Many of the types of contributors in marketing come by in cycles. Some people will contribute for one, maybe two releases, and then they might drop off. Retainment is an issue, both with membership and leadership. (jflory7, 17:01:15)
    12. IDEA: The actual on-boarding steps are simple and don't provide much of a chance for engagement. The on-boarding steps have someone introduce themselves on the mailing list, say hello in a meeting, and then that's it. It would be helpful to have more opportunities to engage new members with "easyfix" types of tasks. Or low-hanging fruit, whichever you prefer. (jflory7, 17:02:51)
    13. IDEA: Because of the difficulty of engaging new members, it's difficult for Marketing to focus on non-essential tasks other than release announcements and talking points. If there were more communication about to contribute ideas, marketing could push to be more innovative to work with different media or campaigns to engage with new waves of users. (jflory7, 17:03:47)
    14. === Brainstorming ways to help resolve these problems === (jflory7, 17:05:02)
    15. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Videos (FranciscoD, 17:05:06)
    16. IDEA: Working more closely with other groups like Join SIG to engage newcomers in Marketing with other areas in the project to see if there are other areas they might be interested in (community, development, etc.) (jflory7, 17:24:42)
    17. IDEA: Each subproject could have a month to highlight awesome things they do (meskarune) - example tasks could be reaching out to project leads to gather those points and write an article (jflory7, 17:25:12)
    18. IDEA: Improvements to the on-boarding process beyond an introduction on the mailing list and meeting (jflory7, 17:27:31)
    19. IDEA: Better communicating existing contacts in media and how to convey Fedora news to them in a professional but curt way (as a newcomer or intermediate task??) (jflory7, 17:28:33)
    20. IDEA: Better ways to communicate our social media presence to engage newcomers to then engage with us on social platforms? (jflory7, 17:31:18)
    21. IDEA: Breaking down the "Tasks and roles" wiki page into better communicated roles and smaller tasks (low-hanging fruit) to engage new contributors (jflory7, 17:32:17)
    22. IDEA: "How I use Fedora" talking points / articles... make them into videos, interviews, footage, example work that people could share on their channels or platforms (jflory7, 17:35:18)
    23. IDEA: Eventually create a badge for members of the FAS group (jflory7, 17:36:11)
    24. IDEA: Podcasting as a maybe lower barrier way of doing things like interviews (see: Chris Ward's interviews with Fedora contributors on SoundCloud) (jflory7, 17:41:35)
    25. ACTION: jflory7 Take the discussion points from today's meeting, lay out the earlier problems, expand on solutions, and try to offer mock implementations in the Marketing ticket (jflory7, 17:42:34)
    26. Out of time for covering more tickets, but today's discussion was deep and for the longer-term analysis for growth and retainment strategies of the Marketing sub-project (jflory7, 17:46:26)

  6. Community Blog (jflory7, 17:46:44)
    1. How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go! (jflory7, 17:46:53)
    2. === This Week in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:47:08)
    3. (1) "Wayland By Default Test Day 2016-10-13" (jflory7, 17:47:14)
    4. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wayland-default-test-day/ (jflory7, 17:47:20)
    5. Total Views (Oct. 13 - present): ~705 (jflory7, 17:47:24)
    6. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2705 (jflory7, 17:47:29)
    7. (2) "FUDCon LATAM 2016 starts today!" (jflory7, 17:47:48)
    8. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-latam-2016-starts-today/ (jflory7, 17:47:53)
    9. Total Views (Oct. 13 - present): ~131 (jflory7, 17:47:59)
    10. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2684 (jflory7, 17:48:04)
    11. (3) "Fedora 25 Supplementary Wallpapers: Vote now!" (jflory7, 17:48:12)
    12. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-25-wallpapers-vote-now/ (jflory7, 17:48:17)
    13. Total Views (Oct. 14 - present): ~947 (jflory7, 17:48:21)
    14. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2694 (jflory7, 17:48:25)
    15. === Coming Up in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:48:39)
    16. (1) "Migration from Trac" (jflory7, 17:48:44)
    17. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2520&preview=1&_ppp=c5225abdbf (jflory7, 17:48:49)
    18. (2) "FLOCK Stories 2016 Episode 001 - Redon Skikuli" (jflory7, 17:48:54)
    19. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2728&preview=1&_ppp=cfb696c3cd (jflory7, 17:48:58)
    20. (3) "Fedora at LinuxCon Europe 2016" (jflory7, 17:49:11)
    21. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2781&preview=1&_ppp=fa46b32133 (jflory7, 17:49:15)
    22. ACTION: jflory7 Process and review pending Community Blog articles for publishing (jflory7, 17:49:38)

  7. Release Schedule (jflory7, 17:49:47)
    1. https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-key-tasks.html (jflory7, 17:50:13)
    2. (1) Final Freeze (Tue 2016-11-01, 00:00 UTC) (jflory7, 17:50:39)
    3. (2) Final Release Public Availability (GA) (Tue 2016-11-15) (jflory7, 17:50:52)
    4. (3) Fedora 22 EOL auto closure (Tue 2016-12-13) (jflory7, 17:51:07)

  8. Open Floor (jflory7, 17:51:14)


Meeting ended at 17:54:26 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
  2. skamath Follow up with Infrastructure team on fas=>bz email lookup rules and whether a fix can be made to gracefully handle failed lookups
  3. jflory7 File ticket for looking into centralizing / making more clear what a member of Council or FESCo does, what their responsibilities are, and centralize the info in a wiki page or CommBlog article
  4. jflory7 Reach out to skamath about Infrastructure / Bugzilla+FAS lookup rules
  5. jflory7 Begin drafting a Community Blog post for Fedora Appreciation Day
  6. jflory7 Post to the mailing list about selecting a new sub-project to work with on the on-boarding process
  7. jflory7 Open up discussion about Fedora Appreciation Day date on the mailing list
  8. jflory7 Take the discussion points from today's meeting, lay out the earlier problems, expand on solutions, and try to offer mock implementations in the Marketing ticket
  9. jflory7 Process and review pending Community Blog articles for publishing


Action items, by person

  1. commops
    1. commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
  2. jflory7
    1. jflory7 File ticket for looking into centralizing / making more clear what a member of Council or FESCo does, what their responsibilities are, and centralize the info in a wiki page or CommBlog article
    2. jflory7 Reach out to skamath about Infrastructure / Bugzilla+FAS lookup rules
    3. jflory7 Begin drafting a Community Blog post for Fedora Appreciation Day
    4. jflory7 Post to the mailing list about selecting a new sub-project to work with on the on-boarding process
    5. jflory7 Open up discussion about Fedora Appreciation Day date on the mailing list
    6. jflory7 Take the discussion points from today's meeting, lay out the earlier problems, expand on solutions, and try to offer mock implementations in the Marketing ticket
    7. jflory7 Process and review pending Community Blog articles for publishing
  3. skamath
    1. skamath Follow up with Infrastructure team on fas=>bz email lookup rules and whether a fix can be made to gracefully handle failed lookups
    2. jflory7 Reach out to skamath about Infrastructure / Bugzilla+FAS lookup rules


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  3. meskarune (66)
  4. Rhea (46)
  5. mailga (42)
  6. zodbot (28)
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  8. dhanesh95 (24)
  9. adityakonarde (15)
  10. bt0 (9)
  11. Southern_Gentlem (2)
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