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01:00:02 <jflory7> #startmeeting FAmNA - 2016 Oct. 13
01:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Oct 14 01:00:02 2016 UTC.  The chair is jflory7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna_-_2016_oct._13'
01:00:04 <jflory7> #meetingname famna
01:00:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
01:00:10 <jflory7> #topic === Roll Call ===
01:00:12 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
01:00:12 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
01:00:31 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor
01:00:32 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com>
01:00:36 <jsandys> .hello jsandys
01:00:37 <zodbot> jsandys: jsandys 'Jeff Sandys' <jpsandys@gmail.com>
01:00:55 <jflory7> Evening, danofsatx and jsandys. o/
01:00:59 <jflory7> #chair danofsatx jsandys
01:00:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: danofsatx jflory7 jsandys
01:01:19 <jflory7> #info award3535 is unable to chair tonight and next week - jflory7 will continue in his place temporarily
01:01:36 <jflory7> I believe he's heading back home after Hurricane Matthew...
01:02:16 <jflory7> Will wait a few more minutes for some others to arrive.
01:03:16 * kk4ewt 
01:03:32 <jflory7> Evening kk4ewt.
01:03:35 <jflory7> #chair kk4ewt
01:03:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: danofsatx jflory7 jsandys kk4ewt
01:04:55 <jflory7> It's five people to quorum I think, right?
01:05:21 <kk4ewt> yep
01:06:23 <jflory7> If nobody else in another four minutes, I'll go ahead and just run through announcements and we'll close out early
01:08:22 <kk4ewt> only thing i have is we need to think about ordering new banners
01:08:40 * jflory7 nods
01:08:42 <kk4ewt> one of them the spring has broken
01:08:59 <jflory7> Ahh, yeah, so it is broken beyond repair?
01:09:19 <kk4ewt> i took it apart at olf the spring is broken in the middle
01:09:53 <jflory7> Ouch... that's disappointing.
01:10:14 <jflory7> Okay... so we're :10 after the hour. I guess we'll end early again this week from lack of quorum.
01:10:34 <jflory7> #info Meeting canceled tonight: quorum not met (jflory7 danofsatx jsandys kk4ewt)
01:10:39 <jflory7> #topic === Announcements ===
01:10:49 <jflory7> #info === "Announcing the Release of Fedora 25 Beta" ===
01:10:54 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-release-fedora-25-beta/
01:11:00 <jflory7> #info Fedora 25 is available for download and upgrading. To learn more about the technical changes in Fedora this release, read the announcement on the Fedora Magazine for more information. The targeted final release date (currently) is November 15.
01:11:06 <jflory7> #info === "Outreachy with Fedora, Fall 2016" ===
01:11:11 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-fedora-fall-2016/
01:11:18 <jflory7> #info We are in the final week of applications for the GNOME Outreachy program. Fedora has a few slots available for this upcoming cycle. More information about the program is available in the above blog post. Be sure to share it across your personal networks!
01:11:21 <kk4ewt> why do we need announcements if no quorum?
01:11:31 <jflory7> #info === "Wayland By Default Test Day 2016-10-13" ===
01:11:35 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wayland-default-test-day/
01:11:41 <jflory7> kk4ewt: I'm still going to send the minutes to the list.
01:12:01 <Juggler> Hello
01:12:09 <kk4ewt> still no need for the announcement and especially for announcement that are in the past
01:12:32 <jflory7> #info Today was the official Test Day for an upcoming change in Fedora 25: Wayland by Default. This will be one of the biggest changes in Fedora 25 to be aware of. It's also not too late to help participate in the testing and add your feedback.
01:12:45 <jflory7> All of these are still current. But it looks like we have quorum after all.
01:12:47 <jflory7> Evening, Juggler!
01:12:49 <jflory7> #chair Juggler
01:12:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: Juggler danofsatx jflory7 jsandys kk4ewt
01:12:57 <kk4ewt> bye
01:12:59 <jflory7> #info === New banners will need to be purchased ===
01:13:48 * masta looks in
01:13:53 <jflory7> #info The springs in the current banners are broken and cannot be fixed - we will need to factor in new banners for the upcoming fiscal year.
01:13:57 <jflory7> Evening masta!
01:13:59 <jflory7> #chair masta
01:13:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: Juggler danofsatx jflory7 jsandys kk4ewt masta
01:14:18 <jflory7> Since we have quorum, we can still cover some tickets for tonight. There are two new ones.
01:14:34 <jflory7> #info Meeting uncanceled! Juggler and masta in attendance as well.
01:14:41 <jflory7> #topic === Tickets ===
01:14:49 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:15:17 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #118 ===
01:15:20 <jflory7> .famnaticket 118
01:15:21 <zodbot> jflory7: #118 (LFNW 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/118
01:15:41 <jflory7> jsandys: Any updates to add here? Or are you still waiting to hear back from Andrew?
01:17:18 <jflory7> #chair juggler_
01:17:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: Juggler danofsatx jflory7 jsandys juggler_ kk4ewt masta
01:17:45 <jflory7> juggler__: It appears you're duplicating.
01:17:47 <juggler_> ty jflory7
01:17:59 <juggler_> (long boring story)
01:18:05 <jflory7> Heheh, no worries.
01:18:24 * jflory7 isn't sure if jsandys is at the keyboard right now
01:19:03 <jflory7> We can revisit this one later.
01:19:09 <jflory7> #undo
01:19:09 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jflory7 at 01:15:17 : === Ticket #118 ===
01:19:21 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #156 ===
01:19:25 <jflory7> .famnaticket 156
01:19:27 <zodbot> jflory7: #156 (WiCHacks @ RIT - 2017 Feb. 25-26) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/156
01:19:42 <jflory7> This is a new ticket for an event in February.
01:19:58 * masta likes
01:19:58 <jflory7> #info ​WiCHacks is an all-female hackathon from February 25-26, 2017. After talking with the lead coordinator, it would be possible for Fedora to organize an "open source" sponsorship at no cost to us (and we would provide people / content).
01:20:05 <jflory7> #link http://wichacks.rit.edu/
01:21:12 <jflory7> I was hoping to see if FAmNA would be interested in an event like this. I won't be in the US at the time of the event, but there are locals in the region (cprofitt and others) who could attend.
01:21:27 <jflory7> I would also like to reach out to Red Hat about seeing if we could coordinate on this event too.
01:21:36 <jflory7> The price for an actual sponsorship isn't too much either
01:21:53 <masta> reading the ticket, seems challenging to calculate a budget for this
01:22:37 <masta> yeah, reaching out to our benefactor would be good
01:23:06 <jflory7> masta: It does - I would be trying to do some outreach to Red Hat and potentially others for any costs that might come from this. However, I think we could have a presence without spending much (a virtual presence is also possible here). So if budget were to become a blocking factor, I'd rather try to spend as little as possible and have some kind of presence
01:23:10 * jflory7 nods
01:23:39 <jflory7> If there's positive interest in this, I can begin doing more research and reaching out to try have more information for a final cost
01:23:40 <juggler_> is there a wiki page outlining sample travel costs for participants? might help with budgeting...
01:23:42 <masta> even just stickers on a table would be fine
01:24:08 <jflory7> juggler_: I hadn't started a wiki page yet because I wanted to see if there was interest for it. I think I will go ahead and start putting this all together tonight.
01:24:11 <jflory7> masta: Agreed.
01:24:38 <juggler_> jflory7: sounds like a good plan and a potentially great event to support.
01:24:40 <jflory7> I don't know if there's a need to take a vote yet since it doesn't seem right to vote on a ticket without knowing a budget, but I will move forward with seeing what I can dig up.
01:24:58 <jflory7> Hopefully in coming weeks I will have a wiki page ready along with more definite numbers.
01:25:06 <masta> so for events like these in my area, I just do them without even notifying Fedora... or any meeting drama
01:25:29 <juggler_> *gasp* :)
01:25:31 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Create a wiki page for WiCHacks, reach out to others about partnering on a sponsorship for this event
01:25:45 <masta> if we have an ambassador in the RIT ~ area, just go and drop swag
01:26:19 <jflory7> masta: Heh, yeah, I think I would have opted for that but we may need to send some people for travel costs / may coordinate on an actual sponsorship with RH, so I wanted to bring it up anyways to keep everyone on the same page.
01:26:44 <masta> jflory7, ok, well at least now it's on the radar
01:27:00 <jflory7> cprofitt is definitely a local, but I was hoping we could try to send a Fedora woman to this event too (I think there might be some in the region who may be interested). Will dig deeper...
01:27:19 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #157 ===
01:27:23 <jflory7> .famnaticket 157
01:27:24 <zodbot> jflory7: #157 (BrickHack @ RIT - 2017 Feb. 11-12) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/157
01:27:35 <jflory7> #info ​BrickHack is the ​Rochester Institute of Technology's primary hackathon during the academic year. Last year, ​Fedora attended as a sponsor. I would like to propose us attending again.
01:27:47 <jflory7> #link https://brickhack.io/
01:28:32 <jflory7> This event I would anticipate requiring us to use some of the budget to attend as a sponsor. More information is in the ticket.
01:28:54 <jflory7> I realize that this event is in close proximity in date and location to WiCHacks, but I think they're both worth attending if possible
01:29:37 <masta> yeah
01:29:38 <jflory7> I don't have any final budget for this either, but I was hoping to do the same outreach for BrickHack that I was with WiCHacks.
01:29:40 <jflory7> As an idea...
01:30:32 <jflory7> I talked with cprofitt on the way back from HackMIT, and one idea we had was reaching out to other open source companies in different areas (think hardware, like Beaglebone, or plenty of other areas) and "partnering" as event sponsors. Fedora would go to represent Fedora and we could also support another project that may not traditionally have a presence at events.
01:30:46 <jflory7> This could be a way for us to offset costs and still have a significant impact
01:30:54 <jflory7> And maybe show off some open source collaboration too
01:31:04 <masta> seems fine
01:31:04 <jflory7> The idea hasn't been developed much yet, but it was a thought we both shared
01:31:16 <jflory7> I may try to do that for one or both of these two.
01:31:52 <masta> not sure the beagle folks would do this event, but they might
01:31:57 <jflory7> Again, just wanted to put this on people's radars for now. But I will start building wiki pages and doing some outreach about this.
01:32:00 * jflory7 nods
01:32:34 <jflory7> masta: If you have any other ideas for companies / projects with a budget that might be interested in this, would be happy to hear them. Beagle was just one that came to mind, but I'm sure there's others we could reach out to as well.
01:32:36 <juggler_> sounds good so far jflory7
01:34:26 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Create wiki page for BrickHack 2017, begin building budget information, reach out to local Fedorans in Rochester, outreach to other groups to offset sponsorship costs
01:34:28 <jflory7> For what it's worth, I'm going to try to target $500 for sponsorship, or if we can get Red Hat in, we might be able to do a higher tier altogether
01:34:29 <jflory7> Last year, we sponsored for $1200
01:34:39 <jflory7> Going to try to work that down - the benefits of knowing the organizers, maybe... :P
01:34:59 <masta> the main beagle person is in Chicago, but the boards are made here in Dallas
01:35:00 <masta> but they support a few hacker spaces and things like that
01:35:00 <jflory7> jsandys: Still with us?
01:35:00 <masta> anyhoo... seem that brickhack is becoming an event we keep doing, which is fine by me
01:35:00 <masta> these are the kind of events we need more
01:35:15 * jflory7 nods to masta
01:35:30 <jflory7> Okay, that's actually great to know that they do support local hackerspaces... I can reach out to them about this.
01:35:39 <jflory7> masta: Do you happen to have any contacts at Beagle by chance?
01:36:22 <masta> jflory7, yes
01:36:43 <jflory7> masta: Oh, interesting... once I build more info for BrickHack, do you think you would be alright with reaching out to them about this idea?
01:37:22 <masta> jflory7, sure. Not in the past Beagle folks have donated like ~40 boards to Fedora
01:37:28 <masta> note, even
01:37:30 * jflory7 nods
01:37:33 <jflory7> Awesome!
01:37:44 <jflory7> I'll be sure to get rolling on this sooner than later then
01:37:50 <masta> yeah, we are friends with Beagle
01:37:59 <jflory7> masta++
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01:38:30 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #118 - skipped, jsandys not present, will work offline ===
01:38:52 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #154 ===
01:38:55 <jflory7> .famnaticket 154
01:38:57 <zodbot> jflory7: #154 (FAmNA Budget sheet) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/154
01:39:19 <jflory7> This is the usual budget worksheet for the region. Andrew uploaded the latest version for October at the beginning of this month.
01:39:39 <jflory7> #info No recent changes to this ticket - Andrew uploaded the latest changes for the month at the beginning of October. Please review at your leisure.
01:40:00 <jflory7> #topic === Open Floor ===
01:40:11 <jflory7> Alrighty... anything else anyone wants to share?
01:40:20 <danofsatx> Does anyone know of any Linux happenings in the Tampa Bay area?
01:40:32 <danofsatx> I tried Meetup.com, but didn't find a whole lot.
01:40:36 <jflory7> danofsatx: I think Fossetcon alternates every other year, right?
01:40:49 <jflory7> I know award3535 went a while back - you might be able to ping him about events in Florida.
01:41:10 <jflory7> Unsure about Tampa specifically, but I know Fossetcon is the main one in Florida (if I recall, Tallahasee?).
01:41:16 <juggler_> I think I might be attending Socalcodecamp One or more days 11/12-11/13. I can attend with either an Ambassador hat or not. If not, I can at least drop off some media/stickers...
01:41:20 <danofsatx> I don't know. I'll check. He's coming down for some cosplay thing at the end of the month, I was going to meet up with him then.
01:41:24 <jflory7> Err, no, Orlando: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fossetcon-2015-orlando-florida/
01:42:18 <jflory7> danofsatx: Doesn't look like any new info yet, but you can probably peek here (hopefully won't have to wait until November for something to swing over to). http://fossetcon.org/
01:43:11 <jflory7> You can probably ask Andrew for more ideas when you see him at the end of the month too
01:43:12 <juggler_> danofsatx not that I know of..
01:44:43 <jflory7> danofsatx: Alternatively, you could also see if any universities nearby run any kind of tech events
01:44:46 <jflory7> That might be a safe bet too.
01:44:51 <jflory7> Alrighty... anything else to cover tonight?
01:45:20 <juggler_> i'm good here :)
01:45:41 * jflory7 is also good
01:46:50 <jflory7> Open floor, going once...
01:47:00 <jflory7> Going twice...
01:47:02 <danofsatx> gone....
01:47:05 <jflory7> Going thrice...
01:47:11 <jflory7> THanks for coming out tonight, everyone!
01:47:14 <juggler_> thanks for organizing, jflory7
01:47:17 <jflory7> Hope to see you all next week.
01:47:19 <jflory7> #endmeeting