20:00:45 <ardian> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-10-12
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20:00:56 <ardian> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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20:01:03 <ardian> #topic Roll Call
20:01:05 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
20:01:06 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
20:01:07 <jonatoni_> .hello jonatoni
20:01:09 <zodbot> jonatoni_: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
20:01:10 <lupinix> .hello lupinix
20:01:12 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
20:01:14 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:01:15 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:01:16 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:01:16 <Rathann> .hello rathann
20:01:18 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian@brainpress.org>
20:01:21 <zodbot> Rathann: rathann 'Dominik Mierzejewski' <dominik@greysector.net>
20:01:29 <renata_g> .hello renata
20:01:30 <zodbot> renata_g: renata 'Renata Gegaj' <gegajrenata@gmail.com>
20:01:45 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:01:45 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:01:54 <ardian> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait for some minutes for others to show up.
20:01:59 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:02:00 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:02:06 * jonatoni_ renata :)
20:02:46 * renata_g jonatoni_ hi :)
20:03:03 <jflory7> o/ Hey everyone!
20:03:24 <lupinix> good evening @all :)
20:03:35 <jonatoni_> hello all :)
20:03:43 <rsc> .hello robert
20:03:44 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:05:21 <ajkunamujo> .fas ajkunamujo
20:05:22 <zodbot> ajkunamujo: ajkunamujo 'Ajkuna Mujo' <ajkuna.mujo2@hotmail.com>
20:05:37 <RGeri77> .fas rgeri77
20:05:38 <zodbot> RGeri77: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' <rakosi.gergely@gmail.com>
20:06:00 <ardian> #topic Announcements
20:06:10 <ardian> #info Announcing the Release of Fedora 25 Beta
20:06:14 <anxhela> .fas hysenianxhela
20:06:15 <zodbot> anxhela: hysenianxhela 'Anxhela Hyseni' <anxhela.hyseni1996@gmail.com>
20:06:18 <ardian> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-release-fedora-25-beta/
20:06:25 <ardian> The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of Fedora 25 Beta, the next big step on our journey to the exciting Fedora 25 release in November.
20:06:37 <ardian> #info AppData content ratings for games shipped in Fedora
20:06:44 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/appdata-content-ratings-shipped-fedora/
20:06:51 <ardian> GNOME Software developer Richard Hughes recently e-mailed the Fedora developers mailing requesting Fedora package maintainers to update their AppData files to include age ratings using OARS.
20:07:07 <ardian> #info Outreachy with Fedora, Fall 2016
20:07:15 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-fedora-fall-2016/
20:08:15 <ardian> We also have renata_g from the last Outreachy round of internships today here, she was part of GNOME
20:08:49 <ardian> That's all from me.
20:08:52 <jonatoni_> renata_g++
20:08:59 <jflory7> renata_g++ Awesome, welcome and congrats on your Outreachy internship :)
20:09:02 <jflory7> !
20:09:09 <lupinix> renata_g++
20:09:11 <ardian> renata_g++
20:09:16 <thunderbirdtr> renata_g++
20:09:17 <nmilosev> renata_g++
20:09:20 <ardian> jflory7, yep please
20:10:02 <jflory7> #info === Vote for Fedora supplementary wallpapers for Fedora 25! ===
20:10:04 <jflory7> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/
20:10:37 * lupinix already voted, some really nice wallpapers!
20:10:43 <jflory7> #info Elections are open for Fedora 25 supplementary wallpapers! Vote for your favorite community-submitted wallpapers and get a badge for doing it!
20:10:49 <jflory7> lupinix++
20:10:49 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for lupinix changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:11:14 <jonatoni_> lupinix++
20:11:25 <lupinix> thx :D
20:11:37 <ardian> great, thanks jflory7
20:11:46 <ardian> eof?
20:11:54 <jflory7> eof, yes, sorry.
20:12:24 <bee2502_> renata_g++
20:12:39 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
20:12:41 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
20:12:53 <ardian> Has anyone else to announce anything ?
20:13:18 <jflory7> Not from me.
20:13:21 <lupinix> nope
20:13:29 <ardian> ok let's move to our next topic
20:13:36 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:13:37 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:13:41 * giannisk waves at everyone.
20:13:48 <lupinix> hi giannisk :)
20:13:50 <ardian> #chair giannisk
20:13:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian giannisk
20:14:17 <ardian> #topic Requests
20:14:23 * ardian gets the link
20:14:50 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:15:10 <ardian> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IAt2udlv-gwTjUYfhqvNOnwL_1FH_NC4AhobdFH1tNU/edit#gid=0
20:15:16 <ardian> ^^ budget sheet
20:15:29 <ardian> #info Funding Request for Giannis Konstantinidis - OpenLabs Fedora Meetup #5 Ticket #614
20:15:38 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/614
20:16:14 <ardian> The ticket speaks for its self
20:16:25 <ardian> Do you have anything to add giannisk ?
20:16:40 <giannisk> Yeah, basically I didn't want to accept my own ticket on peer review basis.
20:16:47 <giannisk> So, it's up to the community to decide. :)
20:17:15 <ardian> Seems it's within the budget
20:17:24 <ardian> +1
20:17:26 <giannisk> All I can say is that we are into conducting a solid meetup for the Albanian community.
20:17:26 <lupinix> +1
20:17:28 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:17:30 <mitzie> +1
20:17:32 <nmilosev> +1
20:17:34 <jonatoni_> +1
20:17:39 <giannisk> And you can expect me to report back afterwards. :)
20:17:49 <b10n1k> +1
20:17:55 <anxhela> +1
20:18:00 <ajkunamujo> +1
20:18:08 <ardian> #agreed Ticket 614 Approved
20:18:09 <giannisk> mitzie: can you double-confirm it's within the budget, although it's a small amount?
20:18:15 <Rathann> +1
20:18:16 <mitzie> +1
20:18:57 <ardian> Good luck, and see you soon in Kosovo!
20:19:14 <giannisk> ardian: oh, yes :)
20:19:18 <giannisk> Thank you all!
20:20:09 <ardian> Looks like we don't have any other ticket to review.
20:20:21 <nmilosev> !
20:20:27 <b10n1k> !
20:20:37 <ardian> nmilosev, yes
20:20:44 <ardian> then b10n1k
20:20:49 <nmilosev> Has anyone been able to contact kmrstiko? I tried sending a couple of emails, but without response. :(
20:21:19 <mitzie> nmilosev: reach out to sessivany
20:21:29 <ardian> nmilosev, use her @redhat email.
20:21:38 <nmilosev> ardian, did that
20:21:53 <nmilosev> mitzie, it is related to sending media?
20:21:59 <ardian> yea I guess it's best you reach out to Jiri
20:23:08 <nmilosev> Sure, thanks guys
20:23:12 <nmilosev> eof
20:23:15 <ardian> nmilosev, try contacting him on Telegram maybe
20:23:21 <giannisk> nmilosev: is is urgent?
20:23:22 * nmilosev noted
20:23:25 <thunderbirdtr> nmilosev, It's ticket for university right ?
20:23:51 <nmilosev> not really it's just for future events (because customs are a real issue for us, I talked to kmrstiko about sending one package in advance)
20:24:16 <giannisk> nmilosev: okay, feel free to loop me in if there are any issues :)
20:24:42 <nmilosev> giannisk, thanks, will do :)
20:24:53 <ardian> b10n1k, the floor is yours
20:25:29 <b10n1k> i have filed #615. and I can see other new ticket on the link. eof
20:25:45 <b10n1k> s/ticket/tickets
20:27:00 <lupinix> thats all swag, right?
20:27:25 <nmilosev> Seems like it
20:27:27 <b10n1k> and some media if it is possible
20:27:28 <lupinix> so nothing to vote about
20:27:47 <giannisk> b10n1k: i've seen your ticket, however I don't think there's any chance the parcel will make it
20:27:58 <giannisk> And no, we don't need to vote on swag/media requests :)
20:28:16 <b10n1k> yea i have been wondering about that
20:28:27 <giannisk> Everyone: please submit your swag requests at least 3/4 weeks in advance.
20:28:43 <b10n1k> if it is so just ignore it. it would be noce though.
20:28:59 * ardian sorry, I'm in a coffee shop, Wifi is unstable
20:29:08 <jflory7> ! (for open floor, in case I'm not looking here when open floor happens)
20:29:17 <thunderbirdtr> !
20:29:22 <ardian> jflory7, alright ;)
20:29:27 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, yep?
20:29:44 <b10n1k> i hadnt had the information earlier, giannisk. otherwise you bet I would had
20:29:58 <giannisk> b10n1k: yeah, I see
20:30:08 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, can we do our request for f25 before release ? like in 3/4 weeks before ?
20:30:45 <thunderbirdtr> eof*
20:30:59 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: as long as swag is concerned, feel free to - but I doubt we would have F25 media :P
20:31:20 <b10n1k> !
20:31:53 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, ok
20:31:58 <ardian> b10n1k, yes
20:32:20 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: I mean, we normally receive new media a few weeks -after- each release
20:33:09 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, that's what I need to know, okey  because I need to schedule my event date depend on that media time* so I can do order earlier and have it in time
20:33:34 <b10n1k> it would be nice if we had a note for the time restriction on the trac
20:33:36 <b10n1k> eof
20:34:24 <ardian> b10n1k, what do you mean with time restriction ?
20:34:44 <giannisk> b10n1k: we can clarify that and make it even more clear, sure
20:34:54 <giannisk> ardian: b10n1k means deadlines, probably
20:35:30 <RGeri77> oh, sorry to interrupt, but its connected to tickets. We will have approx. four events and we need swags. I created ticket #617. Please check is it correct, or not.thanks
20:35:42 <b10n1k> thanks giannisk
20:35:44 <giannisk> #action giannisk update the EMEA Trac, add a notice regarding deadline to submit requests in order to make things even more clear
20:36:23 <ardian> sorry, I got kicked out from the internet, and was not sure about what deadline
20:36:27 <b10n1k> there is a field urgent which i can choose 1 week.
20:36:32 <nmilosev> RGeri77, that's not your ticket :D
20:36:37 * ardian from Wifi
20:36:57 <nmilosev> You meant this one? https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/616
20:37:10 <RGeri77> nmilosev: oh, sorry. the correct one 616
20:37:30 <b10n1k> but it is not possible, right? so as a side note i suggest to have something that says 3-4 weeks for transportation
20:38:04 <giannisk> b10n1k: the field exists, correct, but we rarely do that - most requests take approx. 3-4 weeks to be delivered.
20:38:19 <thunderbirdtr> RGeri77,  approx numbers ?
20:38:25 <giannisk> b10n1k: yes, I can add that note
20:38:36 <b10n1k> ok, i see
20:39:07 <b10n1k> nice
20:39:13 <ardian> RGeri77, we only vote on budget funding tickets
20:40:00 <ardian> ok I guess, we can move to our next topic?
20:40:05 <b10n1k> should I close it or something now?
20:40:13 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, I think he has same issue like nmilosev (responding to ticket) ?
20:41:19 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, I understand, but the process takes time, and it's suggested you ask 3-4 weeks before the event
20:41:57 * b10n1k i closed #615 as invalid
20:42:09 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, okey
20:42:09 <ardian> RGeri77, please contact kmrstiko
20:42:14 <giannisk> b10n1k: well, yeah, i think it made more sense to close it based on time restrictions, unfortunately :/
20:42:18 <RGeri77> ardian: okky, thanks.
20:42:33 * lupinix has to leave now, bye and good night everyone!
20:42:42 * ardian o/ lupinix
20:42:59 <jflory7> lupinix: o/
20:43:07 * thunderbirdtr o/ bye lupinix
20:43:13 <ardian> I guess we can move to our next topic now
20:43:17 <giannisk> #info Always remember that you can reach out to your FAmSCo representatives should you run into any "issues"
20:43:42 <ardian> giannisk++
20:43:50 <jonatoni_> what about EMEA FAD?
20:43:54 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Steering_Committee
20:44:05 <jonatoni_> or we will discuss about it at Open Floor?
20:44:15 <ardian> jonatoni_, we will use the events topic for that
20:44:24 <giannisk> jonatoni_: good question! yes, let's discuss it during Events
20:44:28 <jonatoni_> okay ardian, thanks
20:44:36 <ardian> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:44:47 <ardian> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:45:19 <ardian> #info Release Event Funding Request Deadline
20:45:55 <ardian> Just say someting like "According to the schedule, funding requests for release parties should be submitted no later than 28th of October
20:46:47 <ardian> Nothing else to add here.
20:48:01 <ardian> #topic Events
20:48:34 <ardian> Before we proceed with FAD
20:48:55 <ardian> Any recent events you have been part, or are planning something?
20:48:59 <jonatoni_> !
20:49:09 <ardian> jonatoni_, yes please
20:49:15 <jflory7> SFK and PyCon coming soon... :)
20:50:03 <jonatoni_> After SFK and Pycon i will be at another conference in Sofia, Bulgaria
20:50:30 <jonatoni_> it is called Open Fest >>http://www.openfest.org/2016/en/
20:51:04 <jonatoni_> I applied there with a talk and workshop but i dont know yet which one is approved
20:51:23 <jonatoni_> as soon as i will have an answer i will file also a ticket
20:51:55 <jonatoni_> Also i talked with a Fedora Ambassador in Bulgaria to have an infobooth at the conference
20:52:13 <jonatoni_> and a talk for the newcomers and how to join fedora
20:52:29 <giannisk> jonatoni_: please see if you can make any attempts to start a Fedora movement in Bulgaria :)
20:52:30 <jonatoni_> eof
20:52:48 <jonatoni_> giannisk yes sure, thats why i want to go there :)
20:53:17 <ardian> jonatoni_, seems it's near, maybe try and ask for swag for the event ?
20:54:17 <jonatoni_> I will be in Brno for Pycon so i will take some swag with me
20:54:43 <ardian> ah right, great!
20:55:22 <ardian> jflory7, yea SFK is next week, and we have a badge for the event.
20:56:00 <ardian> thanks for your involvement for having a badge for this event
20:56:01 <ardian> jflory7++
20:56:09 <jonatoni_> jflory7++
20:56:14 <giannisk> jflory7++
20:56:14 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for jflory7 changed to 57 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:56:37 <giannisk> jflory7: pfff, you got very few cookies :P
20:56:52 * ardian lol
20:57:03 <jflory7> Happy to help. :) ardian jonatoni_ giannisk bee2502_ all have privileges for the badge, so you should all be able to figure out about making a printable paper for it.
20:57:21 <jflory7> giannisk: It's karma, the more you give the more you get! :)
20:57:21 <ardian> jflory7, yep xD
20:57:21 <jonatoni_> yeah i can take care of this :)
20:57:28 <bee2502_> jflory7
20:57:31 <bee2502_> jflory7++
20:57:41 <giannisk> jflory7: ouch :P
20:58:16 <ardian> So, FAD EMEA...
20:58:42 <ardian> mitzie, wanna tell us about the status?
20:59:03 <mitzie> ardian: I know as much as you do
21:00:13 <giannisk> mitzie: What would you propose, based on the circumstances?
21:00:14 <jflory7> Okay, have to head out now. See you all later!
21:00:22 <giannisk> jflory7: o/
21:00:33 <thunderbirdtr> jflory7, o/ good night
21:00:37 * nmilosev o/ jflory7
21:00:54 <b10n1k> good night
21:01:25 <jonatoni_> jflory7 o/
21:01:33 <mitzie> giannisk; I don't know, I wasn't aware that the council already submitted a budget request to RH
21:02:14 <giannisk> Budget is one of the focus areas of the EMEA FAD.
21:02:21 <giannisk> However, it's not the only priority.
21:02:44 <giannisk> Therefore, should we have some proper metrics we can still have a FAD soon.
21:03:12 <giannisk> Now, it's up to the EMEA community to decide what's in our best interests.
21:03:47 <giannisk> Thoughts, everyone?
21:03:53 <giannisk> mitzie also
21:04:34 <ardian> I'd be very interested in having a FAD for EMEA, but I am not familiar with the process.
21:04:37 <nmilosev> The email suggested it is better to have FAD in March, correct?
21:04:52 <nmilosev> Would this bring some issues until then?
21:04:53 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, We have 2 mails about it and looks like we need to confirm budget request also we missed deadline and nmilosev +1
21:05:19 <giannisk> nmilosev: based on the fact that the budget gets submitted each summer, from now on
21:05:39 <giannisk> The problem I see here is the following:
21:05:48 <mitzie> The money for FADs come from the council budget, so I suppose we have to request money at least 2 or 3 months in advance
21:05:58 <giannisk> There needs to be a better communication between the Council and FAmSCo/the Ambassadors.
21:07:10 <rgeri7712> .fas RGeri77
21:07:11 <zodbot> rgeri7712: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' <rakosi.gergely@gmail.com>
21:07:57 <ardian> Well maybe we can do it in 2 month time from now
21:08:24 <ardian> I guess we can also do a better plan
21:09:04 <giannisk> Again, do we wish to aim for a FAD in December? Is it worth it? Can we slightly "pivot" and involve some other important activities during the FAD?
21:09:05 <mitzie> Also, the email for the FAD was sent on the list 3 weeks ago, and we got an update just now
21:09:41 <giannisk> Thoughts, anyone?
21:09:54 <nmilosev> Since FAmSco is providing the budget, maybe it's better to first discuss this on FAmSco meeting giannisk? Then write an email with our options and pros/cons.
21:10:10 <jonatoni_> I think its important to organise it
21:10:30 <giannisk> nmilosev: That's actually not very correct, the budget is sourced from the Council, not from FAmSCo.
21:10:44 <nmilosev> Ah I see
21:10:53 <nmilosev> Not sure than what to do.
21:11:06 <ardian> giannisk, do we vote on this like regular, votes ?
21:11:40 <giannisk> mitzie: Since you initiated the discussion regarding the EMEA FAD, could you reach out to cwickert and to the Council? Then, get back to us with more information.
21:12:25 <nmilosev> Maybe we should help mitzie with some thoughts about why is it important to hold it in December?
21:12:51 <nmilosev> So he can present this points
21:12:58 <giannisk> nmilosev: I think we had better get some insight from the Council first
21:13:18 <jonatoni_> after two weeks will be even more late to submit a proposal for FAD giannisk
21:13:25 <giannisk> Then we can choose whether to aim for December or postpone it.
21:13:38 <giannisk> jonatoni_: Do we have any other options, now?
21:14:10 <rgeri7712> that happens one year ago with FAD....its very sad...again...
21:15:02 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, that's gonna need early meeting and swift decision about FAD
21:15:09 <jonatoni_> its better to vote if we want to do it on december or not, if we agree mitzie can contact the council
21:15:30 <ardian> giannisk, I see it as the best option to have a discussion with council. +1 on that
21:15:38 <rgeri7712> after the last year we think 2 months enough for the preparations of FAD
21:15:41 <giannisk> Again, if we want to do in December, we need to settle on some solid metrics.
21:15:52 <rgeri7712> we need to ask the Council
21:16:02 <thunderbirdtr> If It's too late It can be done in January ?
21:16:41 <rgeri7712> I think we should try in two steps. 1 The Council, 2. Postpone
21:16:46 <mitzie> Maybe we could have a fad after we get the final numbers for FY18 from the council and RH, so that we can build the event plan and decide how we will allocate the money for next year's events
21:16:47 <thunderbirdtr> +1
21:17:34 <rgeri7712> mitzie : when we get the final numbers ?
21:18:02 <mitzie> Along with other things like swag and media production discussions
21:18:12 <giannisk> The thing I notice here, is that we always see FAD as a way to allocate the budget. I think we should scope beyond that. :)
21:18:26 <mitzie> rgeri7712: I don't know, I have to check
21:18:27 <giannisk> i.e. let's get something done for EMEA, in general
21:18:43 <giannisk> Budget and swag issues can always be solved remotely, in addition.
21:19:30 <rgeri7712> mitzie: thanks, because we need one stable point(date)
21:19:45 <giannisk> And that's maybe one of the reasons that the last FAD has been canceled, and this particular one is also at stake of being canceled/postponed.
21:19:56 <rgeri7712> at least
21:20:44 <giannisk> Thoughts, people?
21:21:53 <giannisk> mitzie: would you like to work with cwickert and the Council and make a proposal?
21:22:28 <ardian> +1 for having a discussion with council
21:22:33 <giannisk> Is there anyone else who would like to do that?
21:23:22 <thunderbirdtr> That discussion needs to be done earlier ?
21:23:30 <thunderbirdtr> If we wait as in normal date and time
21:23:36 <thunderbirdtr> we already late about it. then
21:23:39 <jonatoni_> We can talk also with bexelbie
21:23:50 <thunderbirdtr> bexelbie, around ?
21:24:37 <mitzie> we have to agree what we want to achieve altogether in an EMEA fad
21:25:32 <thunderbirdtr> yes
21:25:41 <mitzie> since budget proposal discussions are obviously off the table for a FAD in December, if we insist to make a Fad in December, we need to have a main goal
21:27:16 <jonatoni_> +1 mitzie
21:29:34 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie, so we need solid numbers and requirement ?
21:31:48 <ardian> I don't see anyone else taking 'lead' at this, and it's taking time. Would email make more sense ?
21:32:04 <giannisk> ardian: I doubt people will follow-up.
21:32:09 * thunderbirdtr wondering why everyone is silent ? guys we need to talk ?
21:32:39 <ardian> giannisk, well if people don't follow-up on that I guess we have a sad answer for FAD EMEA?
21:32:53 <giannisk> ardian: Correct, would make sense.
21:33:02 <giannisk> Let me try a different question:
21:33:10 <giannisk> Does anyone want to have a FAD this December?
21:33:19 <giannisk> +1 or -1
21:33:34 <giannisk> -1, under the circumstances
21:33:58 <ardian> -1, under these circumstances
21:34:27 <jonatoni_> +1
21:34:52 <thunderbirdtr> -1
21:35:03 <nmilosev> -1, as I don't understand why is it a problem to have it in March (not enough data for me to understand what is the issue here)
21:35:14 <giannisk> ping mitzie rgeri7712
21:36:04 <anxhela> =1
21:36:10 <anxhela> +1
21:36:18 <ajkunamujo_> +1
21:36:39 <giannisk> anxhela, ajkunamujo: were you approved as ambassadors?
21:37:17 <mitzie> -1 for December, +1 to further discuss it again in the upcoming months and maybe organize something in early 2017, for further discussing the budget allocation for FY18 events
21:37:38 <jonatoni_> not yet giannisk. rsc will interview them
21:37:59 <giannisk> anxhela, ajkunamujo_ : I'm sorry but you can vote vote whilst being mentored.
21:38:55 <giannisk> anxhela, ajkunamujo_: you're however more than welcome to attend the meetings and speak up, of course
21:39:09 <giannisk> ardian: Do we have a consensus here?
21:39:48 <giannisk> I see four -1 and one +1
21:40:04 <giannisk> There's a lack of votes.
21:40:36 <ardian_> I am sorry, freenode is going crazy on me
21:41:06 <giannisk> I suggest to discuss this again during the next meeting.
21:41:47 <ardian_> giannisk: yep, can you #agree ? I am from another server chatting here, and don't think the bot will listen to me:P
21:41:48 <giannisk> Meanwhile, an update (w/ a summary of our conversations from today's meeting) to be posted on the mailing list would be a really nice thing to do.
21:41:55 <giannisk> ^Any volunteer for that?
21:43:10 <nmilosev> I can do it, but I think mitzie is much more informed than me
21:43:17 <nmilosev> about this matter
21:43:43 <ardian_> giannisk: I guess I can do that, but I am really not informed about the process of a FAD, and never was in one either.
21:45:13 <giannisk> mitzie initiated this year's FAD process. Now If he doesn't wish to post an update, that's fine. Someone else can help.
21:45:19 <mitzie> nmilosev: I have the same info as everyone else
21:45:26 * ardian_ is in a coffee shop and their closing up, I have to leave.
21:45:54 <mitzie> I can transfer our conversation to the list
21:46:43 <nmilosev> mitzie, I can write a draft and send it to you
21:46:45 * mitzie is sorry for replying late, he is doing a bunch of other stuff atm
21:46:50 <nmilosev> If that helps you
21:46:55 <nmilosev> ?
21:46:57 <ardian_> Just wanted to point something up from jflory7, he wants to help move our EMEA trac to pagure, since he is doing that for FAmNA as well.
21:47:02 <ardian_> #chair
21:47:37 <mitzie> nmilosev: +1
21:47:57 <thunderbirdtr> ardian_, give chair giannisk and me
21:47:58 <nmilosev> mitzie, I'll write it tomorrow during the day
21:48:08 <ardian_> I think giannisk is chair
21:48:08 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, !
21:48:20 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: yes
21:48:22 <thunderbirdtr> ardian_, ok
21:48:40 * ardian_ I have to leave, good night everyone!
21:48:44 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, do we have any updates about alternative payments ?
21:48:48 <giannisk> ardian_++
21:48:52 <thunderbirdtr> ardian_, o/ good night and thank you
21:48:59 <thunderbirdtr> ardian++
21:49:08 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: let us finish with this first, and will get on that thing as well :)
21:49:14 <giannisk> #action mitzie nmilosev work on an update (w/ a summary of our FAD-related conversations from today's meeting) to be posted to the ambassadors mailing list
21:49:44 <giannisk> Anything else regarding the FAD?
21:49:47 <giannisk> Let's wrap up.
21:50:16 <giannisk> If not, I will be moving on.
21:50:39 <giannisk> #topic Action items from previous meetings
21:50:49 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: correct, there was an action item assigned to me
21:51:16 <giannisk> In regards to reaching out to jzb to investigate alternative reimbursement methods
21:52:02 <giannisk> Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to do it  -and I'm sorry about that- however I will definitely see to it at earliest convenience.
21:52:21 <giannisk> This is definitely important for many contributors.
21:52:43 <giannisk> #action giannisk contact jzb and the Council, investigate whether we can have alternative reimbursement methods for EMEA
21:52:53 <giannisk> ^Assigning it again to myself.
21:52:56 <giannisk> Any questions here?
21:53:09 <thunderbirdtr> Nope, Anything I can do let me know
21:53:13 <thunderbirdtr> I wanna help about that too
21:53:18 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: sure :)
21:53:23 <giannisk> I can keep you on the loop.
21:53:28 <thunderbirdtr> Thank you
21:53:33 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr++
21:53:33 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk++
21:53:42 <giannisk> Okay, moving on!
21:53:47 <giannisk> #topic Open Floor
21:53:56 <giannisk> Anything else before we finish?
21:54:05 <giannisk> jflory7: did you keep something for the open floor?
21:54:20 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, he left ?
21:54:26 <giannisk> If there isn't anything else, I shall end the meeting in three (3) minutes from now.
21:54:47 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: right, I tend to forget
21:55:16 <giannisk> Thanks everyone for attending - such a long meeting it was.
21:55:19 <thunderbirdtr> np
21:55:23 <giannisk> See you again in two weeks!
21:55:32 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, Thank you
21:55:34 <thunderbirdtr> Good night everyone  !
21:55:54 <Rathann> thanks and good night
21:56:01 <nmilosev> good night everyone
21:57:39 <giannisk> #endmeeting