18:00:49 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
18:00:49 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 28 18:00:49 2016 UTC.  The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:49 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:49 <smooge> #chair smooge nirik Evolution bstinson avij
18:00:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:00:50 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:57 <smooge> .hello smooge
18:00:58 <zodbot> smooge: smooge 'Stephen J Smoogen' <smooge@gmail.com>
18:01:07 <nirik> .hello kevin
18:01:08 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
18:01:11 <avij> .hello avij
18:01:14 <zodbot> avij: avij 'Anssi Johansson' <rhbugs@miuku.net>
18:01:39 <bstinson> .hello bstinson
18:01:44 <zodbot> bstinson: bstinson 'Brian Stinson' <bstinson@ksu.edu>
18:02:09 <smooge> ok we have quorum
18:02:25 <smooge> #topic Outstanding issues
18:02:51 <smooge> I said I would bring up a couple of things during the meeting.. but I have lost what I was going to bring up :(
18:03:13 <smooge> #info Request for python3x in EPEL6
18:03:36 <smooge> #info SRPM Naming Conventions and rules
18:04:01 <smooge> #info EL-5 is still alive for 6 more months
18:04:11 <smooge> #info EL-4 has not been archived yet
18:04:27 <smooge> #info NodeJS
18:04:34 <smooge> oh yes now I remember NodeJS
18:05:03 <smooge> sgallagh, put in a request to push to the epel-test NodeJS because the old version is EOL in a couple of days
18:05:23 <smooge> Kevin and I gave a tentative approval but I would like to make it 'formal'
18:05:32 <nirik> we already did I thought.
18:05:33 <sgallagh> .hello sgallagh
18:05:34 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
18:05:35 <nirik> months ago
18:06:00 <sgallagh> nirik: I think you're thinking about my asking for a late Change in F25 for the sam
18:06:02 <sgallagh> *same
18:06:04 <nirik> but I could be misremembering
18:06:05 <smooge> we did.. but I thought his request was to move it into epel proper before karma
18:06:25 <smooge> so I am misunderstanding
18:06:31 <nirik> in any case I'm all for it. We don't want to ship a no longer supported version with known security issues.
18:06:32 <sgallagh> I've got a Fedora Magazine draft awaiting editing and release today as well
18:06:49 <sgallagh> To give wider notification of the jump in versions
18:07:10 <wind85> Hello everybody my name is Carlo, this is my first meeting, and I am exited to start contributing to the fedora infrastructure team...
18:07:12 <bstinson> awesome, +1 to getting that pushed
18:07:31 <bstinson> wind85: welcome!
18:07:50 <nirik> wind85: well, this is the epel meeting, not the infrastructure one, but welcome anyhow. ;)
18:09:05 <smooge> wind85, the infrastructure meeting will be tomorrow
18:09:32 <moto-timo> .hello ttorling
18:09:33 <zodbot> moto-timo: ttorling 'None' <TicoTimo@gmail.com>
18:09:59 <smooge> ok I think we are all ok on the nodejs push.
18:10:04 <avij> yes indeed
18:10:13 <smooge> was there anything else on it?
18:10:52 <wind85> nirik, alright...Wrong day thanks...
18:11:04 <smooge> On the documents for EPEL in the wiki. This is on me to get done by the next meeting. If it isn't done by then, I will be wanting someone to take it over
18:13:44 <smooge> On the epel-4 archive.. I need to work on a script to do this in general with the new mirroring tools since archiving is sort of borked at the moment.
18:13:55 <smooge> Anything else?
18:14:22 <smooge> bstinson, anything from the CentOS side?
18:14:43 <nirik> well, there's https://fedorahosted.org/epel/ticket/34 if we want to discuss or comment or whatever
18:15:38 <bstinson> i don't think we have anything on our end except to say thanks for the nodejs work. we'll be consuming some of that i'm sure
18:16:06 <smooge> my only comment is that koji is a large complex program written by other people. If he would like to work with them to get this fixed we would appreciate it
18:16:33 <nirik> well, it's sort of a fundmental assumption koji has.
18:16:44 <nirik> perhaps some of the modularity work will help out with this...
18:16:55 <nirik> but failing that, there's not really any better answer
18:16:56 <moto-timo> +1
18:16:56 <dgilmore> smooge: what nirik said
18:16:56 <smooge> I am not saying it isn't.. :).
18:17:29 <dgilmore> its part of explicit design decisions we made when we added external repo support
18:17:31 <smooge> however no one on EPSCO could 'fix it'
18:17:47 * dgilmore says that with koji dev hat on
18:18:00 <dgilmore> smooge: setting a policy will not fix it
18:18:12 <smooge> I didn't say it would.
18:18:57 <dgilmore> :) I know
18:19:31 <smooge> setting a policy which says "this is the build system we are using and we are stuck with its choices and limitations" would at least clarify why it is the case
18:20:33 <smooge> #topic Upcoming Opportunities
18:20:52 <smooge> which is the next thing.. moving epel trac to pagure or somewhere that is better suited
18:21:05 <moto-timo> +1
18:21:39 <smooge> I think nirik got all the bugs worked out of the trac-2-pagure importer so this should be a piece of cake :)
18:21:44 <nirik> sure. I think so, but we need to fix one issue in pagure before we do more migrations.
18:21:51 <nirik> well, there's 1 bug left...
18:22:21 <nirik> you currently cannot turn off fedmsgs for issues... so when you import it sends fedmsgs for every ticket + every comment + every status change of a ticket, etc
18:22:36 <moto-timo> :/
18:22:48 <smooge> well it looks like we have 34 issues.
18:22:57 <smooge> which may not be worth moving over?
18:23:40 <nirik> it should be easy enough once we fix that bug.
18:23:42 <smooge> or maybe it is for the next poor SOBs who are in our position
18:23:50 <smooge> nirik, ok we can wait
18:23:53 <moto-timo> lol
18:25:48 * nirik had nothing more that he can remember. ;)
18:27:22 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:27:40 <smooge> OK anything for open floor or I can close out
18:28:22 <bstinson> all good here
18:28:26 <avij> same
18:28:35 <smooge> #endmeeting