20:00:11 <ardian> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-09-28
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20:00:18 <ardian> #meetingname emea ambassadors
20:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
20:00:23 <ardian> #topic Roll Call
20:00:28 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:00:29 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian@brainpress.org>
20:00:48 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:00:48 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:00:53 * nmilosev o/ ardian
20:00:59 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
20:01:01 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
20:01:04 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, hello again ! :)
20:01:24 <ardian> hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait for some minutes for others to show up.
20:01:34 * ardian nmilosev thunderbirdtr o/
20:01:51 * thunderbirdtr gonna sit in the corner and checking his laptop...
20:03:22 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
20:03:23 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
20:03:45 <mhroncok> .fas churchyard
20:03:46 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
20:05:04 * ardian bee2502 o/
20:05:08 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
20:05:09 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
20:06:18 <ardian> #topic Announcements
20:06:35 <ardian> #info Test Day: Internationalization (i18n) features of Fedora 25
20:06:41 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/test-day-i18n-features-fedora-25/
20:06:48 <ardian> There was a test day with some new interesting changes that are coming in fedora 25, you can still help test those new changes in i18n.
20:07:04 <ardian> #info What is the Fedora Code of Conduct?
20:07:14 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/what-is-fedora-code-conduct/
20:07:28 <bee2502> ardian o/
20:07:41 <bee2502> jonatoni o/
20:07:59 <ardian> Those were my announcements
20:08:04 <mohamed94> .fas mohamed94
20:08:05 <zodbot> mohamed94: mohamed94 'Mohammed Tayeh' <m.tayeh94@gmail.com>
20:08:27 <ardian> Has anybody else to announce something ?
20:08:44 <ardian> jflory7, xD?
20:08:50 * thunderbirdtr wondering any fad event announce ?
20:08:52 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:08:53 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:09:24 <mohamed94> .hello mohamed94
20:09:25 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, good question, we may go into that in the events topic.
20:09:25 <zodbot> mohamed94: mohamed94 'Mohammed Tayeh' <m.tayeh94@gmail.com>
20:09:46 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, ok.
20:10:05 <jflory7> ardian: You have everything I would have said. :) Maybe a friendly reminder that F25 Beta is just around the corner (October 11th).
20:10:16 <jflory7> There are talking points being built as well:
20:10:21 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:10:22 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:10:31 <jflory7> You can find those here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points
20:10:58 <jflory7> ^ work in progress.
20:11:36 <ardian> #info Fedora 25 Talking Points (still in progress)
20:11:41 <ardian> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points
20:11:47 <jflory7> ardian++
20:11:53 <ardian> jflory7++
20:11:56 <ardian> thank you
20:12:02 <jflory7> Yup!
20:12:22 <ardian> Alright, lets move to our next topic.
20:12:36 <ardian> #topic Requests
20:12:45 * ardian gets the link
20:12:55 <ardian> #link fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:13:27 <ardian> #info Funding Request for Anxhela Hyseni and Ajkuna Mujo - SFK Ticket #611
20:13:40 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/611
20:14:23 <ardian> I can confirm that Anxhelas and Ajkunas talk are accepted in the conference.
20:14:47 <ardian> So we have an additional 110 EUR for SFK16
20:15:20 <ardian> nmilosev, suggested me last time to also post the link to budget window.
20:15:30 <ardian> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IAt2udlv-gwTjUYfhqvNOnwL_1FH_NC4AhobdFH1tNU/edit#gid=0
20:15:40 <nmilosev> ardian++
20:16:07 <ardian> mitzie, can confirm that the +110 EUR are within the budget for SFK16
20:16:32 <thunderbirdtr> !
20:16:41 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, yes please?
20:16:58 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, as I read Dec 2016- Feb 2017 for release parties
20:17:11 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, but release is happen in one month before ?
20:17:44 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, is it typed dec because of quarter ?
20:18:08 <ardian> umm, maybe mitzie can help us more here, I am not familiar with the process here, sorry.
20:18:22 <thunderbirdtr> Also
20:18:48 <mitzie> thunderbirdtr:  there is not a problem about that, we will use the  funds in the previous quarter if that's the case
20:18:55 <thunderbirdtr> F25 media production  started in dec according to this so can it be early or has to be dec because time can be shifted ?
20:19:24 <mitzie> same for the DVD production
20:20:06 <thunderbirdtr> so If I wanna do event right after event , I need to wait ?
20:20:15 <thunderbirdtr> sorry* right after release*
20:20:33 <thunderbirdtr> for swags*
20:21:10 <rsc> .hello robert
20:21:11 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:21:12 <mitzie> thunderbirdtr: That's what I said, if the release is in the previous quarter we can move the funds to the previous quarter
20:21:31 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie, okey. thanks
20:21:37 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie, same for all then
20:21:48 <mitzie> yeap :)
20:22:14 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, eof ?
20:22:37 <thunderbirdtr> eof
20:22:42 <mitzie> +1 for ardian's ticket
20:22:47 <thunderbirdtr> done :)
20:23:05 <ardian> actually it's Jonas ticket xD
20:23:22 <mitzie> yeah, sorry :)
20:23:26 <nmilosev> +1
20:24:03 <ardian> Jona is preparing an "army" to come to SFK this year, the booth will be awesome!
20:24:06 <rsc> +1 given it's also for Anxhela and Ajkuna (if I read it correct)
20:24:07 <ardian> jonatoni++
20:24:40 <mhroncok> +1
20:25:10 <mitzie> ardian: they are not Ambassadors, right?
20:25:15 <jonatoni> ardian yep, absolutely true :P
20:25:22 <rsc> mitzie: not yet, but I'm mentoring both
20:25:23 <jflory7> jonatoni++ fedora_army++
20:25:29 <ardian> +1
20:25:33 <mitzie> rsc: +1
20:25:35 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:25:37 <jonatoni> mitzie they have started the proccess with rsc
20:26:07 <rsc> mitzie: and I'm confident that we get this sorted out until then ;)
20:26:14 <jflory7> Looking forward to hearing about how SFK goes - so far, looking like it will be a great event. :)
20:26:15 <thunderbirdtr> rsc, good luck ! :)
20:26:17 <mitzie> perfect
20:26:31 <ardian> thanks jflory7
20:27:01 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #611 approved
20:27:06 <jonatoni> Thanks guys :)
20:27:07 <ardian> Thanks everyone for voting.
20:27:08 <Mohamed_fawzy> .mohamedfawzy
20:27:21 <jflory7> Mohamed_fawzy: Try .hello mohamedfawzy
20:27:23 <thunderbirdtr> Mohamed_fawzy, ".hello"  or ".fas" ?
20:27:38 <Mohamed_fawzy> i think i came late
20:27:40 <Mohamed_fawzy> .fas mohamedfawzy
20:27:41 <zodbot> Mohamed_fawzy: mohamedfawzy 'Mohamed Fawzy' <medoelmasry142@gmail.com>
20:27:45 <Mohamed_fawzy> thanks :D
20:27:49 <thunderbirdtr> Mohamed_fawzy, welcome ! :)
20:27:50 <Rathann> .hello rathann
20:27:51 <zodbot> Rathann: rathann 'Dominik Mierzejewski' <dominik@greysector.net>
20:27:57 <ardian> Alright, that's all for requests for tonight.
20:28:05 * Rathann is late as well
20:28:06 <Rathann> sorry
20:28:13 <ardian> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:28:15 <jflory7> Hey Mohamed_fawzy and Rathann. o/
20:28:16 <Mohamed_fawzy> it is long time i didnt attend
20:28:32 <ardian> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:29:06 <ardian> I don't have anything else to add here, besides what we said earlier for f25 status
20:29:22 <thunderbirdtr> join test-days ! :)
20:30:02 <ardian> Yep, there are a lot of test-days, and I heard you can win badges :D
20:30:23 <pkwesihanson> .fas edgates
20:30:24 <zodbot> pkwesihanson: edgates 'Elijah Hanson' <pkwesihanson@yahoo.com>
20:30:39 <ardian> #topic Events
20:31:03 <Mohamed_fawzy> before events
20:31:10 <Mohamed_fawzy> I have good news
20:31:39 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, I'd like to follow the meeting agenda, can we add that in the open floor part ?
20:31:57 <Mohamed_fawzy> Ok ardian :D
20:32:12 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, thanks
20:32:26 <ardian> Any recent events you have been part of, would you like to report ?
20:32:36 <mitzie> !
20:32:42 <bee2502> !
20:33:08 <ardian> mitzie, yes
20:33:27 <mitzie> I'm going with sessivany and bee2502 to LinuxCon next week in Berlin. We will have a booth and we expect a lot of people to come by ;)
20:33:45 <mitzie> eof
20:34:03 <jflory7> mitzie++ sesivany++ bee2502++
20:34:03 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for mitzie changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:34:42 <ardian> Awesome!! wish you good luck
20:34:43 <mitzie> We will also have an attendee badge, thanks to jflory7, jflory7++
20:34:43 <zodbot> mitzie: Karma for jflory7 changed to 52 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:34:45 <mhroncok> !
20:34:52 <bee2502> jflory7++
20:34:54 <ardian> mhroncok, after bee2502
20:35:04 <ardian> bee2502, the stage is yours
20:35:14 <jflory7> mitzie: :)
20:35:18 <bee2502> ardian : it was the same thing - about LinuxCon in Berlin
20:35:29 <ardian> ah, right!
20:35:50 <ardian> mhroncok, yes please
20:35:54 <mhroncok> https://www.linuxdays.cz/2016/en/ happens next weekend
20:36:05 <mhroncok> Fedora has a booth there
20:36:17 <mhroncok> Prague
20:36:29 <jflory7> !
20:37:09 <ardian> mhroncok, looks cool
20:37:15 <mhroncok> eof, sorry
20:37:23 <ardian> jflory7, yep
20:38:16 <jflory7> Although a bit of a ways away, I noticed today that PyCon CZ (Oct. 28-30) announced their list of speakers this week. Many familiar faces there... bee2502, jonatoni, mhroncok, and Slavek Kabrda. :)
20:38:17 <jflory7> #link https://cz.pycon.org/2016/speakers/
20:38:43 * jflory7 isn't sure what Slavek's FAS / IRC username is
20:38:52 <mhroncok> jflory7: bkabrda
20:39:13 <jflory7> bee2502++ jonatoni++ mhroncok++ bkabrda++ Congrats all on being accepted as speakers!
20:39:13 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for bkabrda changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:39:21 <mhroncok> Fedora is mentioned 15 times on that page :D
20:39:32 <jflory7> fedora++
20:39:41 <jflory7> eof
20:40:02 <ardian> That's just awesome,
20:40:09 <mhroncok> !
20:40:11 <ardian> Thanks for putting your hard work on promoting fedora
20:40:18 <ardian> mhroncok, yes
20:40:26 <mhroncok> we are working hard on https://github.com/fedora-python/fedoralovespython.org
20:40:30 <mhroncok> to promote at that event
20:40:49 <mhroncok> any help is appreciated, see the issues
20:41:05 <mhroncok> or ping me or others on #fedora-python
20:41:25 <mhroncok> (and do not promote the website just yet)
20:41:26 <mhroncok> eof
20:41:41 <ardian> mhroncok, are these issues related to the fedoralovespython site ?
20:41:57 <mhroncok> yes
20:42:11 <ardian> so the content will be like a blog section on the site ?
20:42:13 <mhroncok> but we are also working on making things possible in fedora to promote them there
20:42:25 <mhroncok> sorry, no readme yet there :D
20:42:43 * ardian Loves the design of the site
20:42:44 <mhroncok> the webpage is just a list of talking points with links - mostly to developer portal
20:43:07 <b10n1k_> .fas b10n1k
20:43:07 <mhroncok> ardian: cudos to pviktori
20:43:07 <zodbot> b10n1k_: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
20:43:38 <mhroncok> see https://fedoralovespython.org/__future__/ for full design
20:43:49 <ardian> #info Fedora Loves Python is looking for help
20:43:53 <ardian> #link https://github.com/fedora-python/fedoralovespython.org/issues
20:43:58 <thunderbirdtr> mhroncok, btw can we say python2 is not in F25
20:44:00 <ardian> pviktori++
20:44:00 <zodbot> ardian: Karma for pviktori changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:44:19 <ardian> mhroncok++
20:44:19 <zodbot> ardian: Karma for churchyard changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:44:24 <mhroncok> thunderbirdtr: not by default, at least not in workstation, but that's old news
20:44:39 <thunderbirdtr> mhroncok, just for clarify* nothing else*
20:44:40 <jflory7> pviktori++ mhroncok++
20:44:47 <jflory7> Have to head out now all - enjoy your evenings and have a great rest of your week!
20:44:56 <bee2502> pviktori++ mhroncok++
20:44:56 <zodbot> bee2502: Karma for pviktori changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:44:59 <zodbot> bee2502: Karma for churchyard changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:45:03 <ardian> jflory7, thanks for being here, bye!
20:45:19 <mhroncok> jflory7: bye
20:45:28 <ardian> mhroncok, eof ?
20:45:36 <mhroncok> yep
20:45:48 * mhroncok always forget to do eof :(
20:46:27 <ardian> Alright, if there isn't anything else for events, we can move to our next topic.
20:46:47 <ardian> #topic Action items from previous meeting
20:47:06 <ardian> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-09-14/emea_ambassadors.2016-09-14-20.00.html
20:47:19 <ardian> #info ACTION: mitzie to send an email regarding EMEA FAD to the mailing list
20:47:29 <ardian> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HV3QSR5Y4YMFFHMBT3IM6RXCC4E5JVKC/
20:47:39 <ardian> #info ACTION: nmilosev write an email to the mailing list, regarding the tips for problems with customs.
20:47:47 <ardian> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/DMOJGTA7BMSRO7JNAUTSWWRE4V4LEKKW/
20:48:06 <ardian> thanks mitzie and nmilosev for sending these emails
20:48:26 <nmilosev> I hope this helps us in the future :)
20:48:48 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:48:49 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:48:53 * giannisk waves at everyone.
20:48:59 <ardian> nmilosev, yes!
20:49:06 * ardian o/ giannisk
20:49:22 <ardian> Let's move to our last topic.
20:49:36 <ardian> #topic Open Floor
20:49:52 <Mohamed_fawzy> !
20:49:54 <thunderbirdtr> !
20:49:57 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, please
20:50:17 <Mohamed_fawzy> Fedora is the main OS for Prep schools in Egypt starting from this year :D
20:50:50 <giannisk> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:50:53 <mohamed94> wow Good News :D mohamed
20:50:54 <Mohamed_fawzy> fedora instead of windows and scratch instead of vb6
20:50:55 <thunderbirdtr> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:50:56 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, wow, that's fantastic
20:51:01 <nmilosev> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:51:02 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:51:07 <mohamed94> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:51:31 <Rathann> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:51:31 <Mohamed_fawzy> also Open Source culture and gimp is in the books
20:51:43 <bee2502> Mohamed_fawzy++
20:51:44 <Mohamed_fawzy> the book is awesome
20:51:47 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, very curios to know, do you have a computer club there
20:52:01 <mitzie> Mohamed_fawzy: this could be posted to the magazine
20:52:07 <Mohamed_fawzy> even they still use fedora 23
20:52:15 <ardian> +1 what mitzie said
20:52:35 <giannisk> Mohamed_fawzy: How did you manage to accomplish this? Did you reach out to your ministry of education?
20:52:54 <Mohamed_fawzy> No
20:53:11 <Mohamed_fawzy> i was surprised like you
20:53:56 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, if you can get some pictures, and maybe you want to write something in the fedoramagazine
20:53:57 <giannisk> Mohamed_fawzy: So, they woke up one day and said "Hey, let's install Fedora on those PCs"? :D
20:54:13 <Mohamed_fawzy> they work since last may
20:54:32 <mhroncok> giannisk: happens a lot :)
20:54:39 <Mohamed_fawzy> i just knew that month ago
20:55:26 <Mohamed_fawzy> ardian: we can post as news but we didnt make any efforts for that
20:55:51 <Mohamed_fawzy> but we will make to keep that as better as possible
20:56:08 <giannisk> It would be interesting to read in any case
20:56:19 <ardian> I see, anyway I think that it's good news
20:56:31 <ardian> and a good read
20:56:40 <Mohamed_fawzy> yes it is amazing
20:57:39 <mohamed94> awesome
20:57:42 <ardian> If you can make some pictures, and find your self motivated to write something please do, jflory7 can help you with the magazine I think.
20:58:04 <Mohamed_fawzy> by the way I created a swag ticket to visit some schools in my area
20:58:42 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, don't forget to assign it to kmrstiko
20:59:25 <Mohamed_fawzy> I assigned it 10 days ago
20:59:39 <Mohamed_fawzy> #ticket606
21:00:12 <ardian> Alright, it can take sometime, you can also send her an email.
21:00:17 <ardian> If it's urgent
21:00:51 <Mohamed_fawzy> Ok I will :D thank you
21:01:21 <ardian> Mohamed_fawzy, you are welcome, if you don't have anything else to add please write eof
21:01:33 <Mohamed_fawzy> eof
21:01:45 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, the stage is yours
21:01:50 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, thank you
21:01:53 <thunderbirdtr> We have approximately  1 month+ for next release, I would like to do Release party in Turkey and that gonna be 3 days event. I'm also going to make convert all the PCs will be Fedora in a vocational high school for making programming and making electronics. We have confirmation from our education ministry If It's work, we can spread to more schools and make it useful. For now I'm just gonna focus that Release Party and promote
21:01:53 <thunderbirdtr> Fedora for good.
21:02:16 <thunderbirdtr> And We gonna also show daily usage and etc. as well..
21:03:15 <Mohamed_fawzy> thunderbirdtr: good step
21:03:17 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr++
21:03:26 <Mohamed_fawzy> thunderbirdtr++
21:03:40 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, great!
21:03:44 <ardian> thunderbirdtr++
21:03:52 <jonatoni> thunderbirdtr++
21:04:09 <thunderbirdtr> There is only one problem I wonder how is it gonna solve, which that's how can I get my reimbursement other then paypal ? It's blocked and I can't used
21:04:13 <mhroncok> thunderbirdtr++
21:04:13 <zodbot> mhroncok: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:04:39 <RGeri77> .fas rgeri77
21:04:39 <mhroncok> thunderbirdtr: politics :(
21:04:39 <zodbot> RGeri77: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' <rakosi.gergely@gmail.com>
21:04:49 <nmilosev> thunderbirdtr, western union works in Turkey?
21:05:00 <thunderbirdtr> There is only one problem I wonder how is it gonna solve, which that's how can I get my reimbursement other then paypal ? It's blocked and I can't
21:05:03 <thunderbirdtr> I need some alternative solutions for that
21:05:05 <thunderbirdtr> mhroncok, sadly yes...
21:05:07 <thunderbirdtr> yes
21:05:25 <thunderbirdtr> but is redhat using any other alternative methods ?
21:05:35 <ardian> I haven't seen any other way that the reimbursement is done.
21:05:55 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, well I'm gonna need one... somehow*
21:05:55 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: No, at this moment, Paypal is the only method being used
21:05:56 <ardian> PayPal does also not work in Kosovo.
21:06:07 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: It definitely makes sense to have alternative payment methods
21:06:30 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, but I usually send the email of jonatoni she is in Albania (4h away)
21:06:33 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, we gonna need alternative because of "politics" which we all aware and don't liek it
21:06:39 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: Do you have any reimbursements currently pending?
21:06:57 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, not the moment , thanks to Serbia team they help me in last event
21:07:12 <thunderbirdtr> nmilosev++ and team
21:07:12 <mhroncok> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements#Paying_for_things_yourself
21:07:16 <mhroncok> says paypal only
21:07:30 <giannisk> This is important, I will take liberty of chiming in.
21:07:42 <mhroncok> giannisk++
21:07:42 <zodbot> mhroncok: Karma for giannisk changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:07:52 <Mohamed_fawzy> paypal doesnt  work in Egypt also
21:07:57 <thunderbirdtr> mhroncok, as I heard other regions trying to also alternative because of paypal not working
21:08:05 <ardian> giannisk, thanks a lot!
21:08:06 <RGeri77> Hi guys! Sorry about the interrupt, I just wanna say Hello to everyone here.
21:08:08 <thunderbirdtr> Mohamed_fawzy, like Egypt and other small countries
21:08:19 <giannisk> #action giannisk contact jzb, investigate whether we can have alternative reimbursement methods for EMEA
21:08:26 <thunderbirdtr> RGeri77, hello!
21:08:31 <ardian> #chair giannisk
21:08:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian giannisk
21:08:33 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk++ and thank you so much !
21:08:33 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: Karma for giannisk changed to 9 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:08:52 <Mohamed_fawzy> it is not small just economic troubles because of bad political management
21:08:56 <giannisk> All: If by any chance you encounter any issues with reimbursement, feel free to ping me or any other FAmSCo member from EMEA
21:09:15 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, thank you !
21:09:18 <thunderbirdtr> Mohamed_fawzy, yes
21:09:39 <mohamed94> i think http://neteller.com/ work in Egypt and other country
21:09:43 <jonatoni> thanks giannisk
21:09:58 <giannisk> Anytime folks
21:10:15 <ardian> giannisk, I'm not sure how much time this can take to be fixed, but can we send our reimbursement to someone else in the community that works, and then use something like western union ?
21:10:20 <ardian> it applies extra fees ofc
21:10:32 <jonatoni> RGeri77 o/
21:10:33 <ardian> thankfully Albania is very near for me
21:10:37 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, that's what I said in last time* but
21:10:42 <giannisk> ardian: It won't be an easy change, I have to admit that, but we -must- consider alternative methods.
21:10:54 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, this time I'm in Turkey and needs another alternative
21:11:09 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, yep! I see your problem
21:11:20 <giannisk> ardian: Lots of fellow Fedorians are reporting issues with Paypal - we have to find a workaround.
21:11:36 <ardian> giannisk, yup, that would be the best!
21:11:43 <thunderbirdtr> eof
21:11:48 <thunderbirdtr> thank you so much again !
21:11:49 <Mohamed_fawzy> western union is awesome
21:12:00 <giannisk> ardian: Yes, sending the money to someone else does the trick, but it shouldn't be considered as a permanent solution.
21:12:12 <RGeri77> Sometimes I need to make transfer money from Paypal to my bank account, and then use that like cash. So I can help you somehow thunderbirdtr.
21:12:25 <giannisk> ardian: For the last few months, I have witnessed this happening more often. Which is not okay.
21:12:30 <ardian> giannisk, I thought of that, just because I can imagine that it takes some time to replace PayPal.
21:12:43 <RGeri77> or viceversa..
21:12:44 <Rathann> paypal is also expensive due to exchange fees
21:12:50 <thunderbirdtr> RGeri77, thank you pal ! It would be awesome If we needs to
21:13:03 <thunderbirdtr> RGeri77++
21:13:03 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: Karma for rgeri77 changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:13:06 <RGeri77> thunderbirdtr: anytime, sure
21:13:24 <ardian> RGeri77, are you as well from Turkey ?
21:13:32 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, hungary*
21:14:29 <ardian> aha, since WE has also some costs depending on how far the country you want to send is
21:14:31 <RGeri77> ardian: nope :-), as thunderbirdtr wrote..
21:14:47 <ardian> Moneygram is very cheap in my experience in sending money
21:15:13 <ardian> anyways, thanks giannisk for stepping up for this issue
21:15:26 <mitzie> ardian: whichever supports more countries I suppose woudl do the job :P Besides fedora pays the fees
21:15:42 <RGeri77> Okey, from Paypal to my bank account, and from there to thunderbirdtr bank account, thats a working way ?
21:15:42 <giannisk> ardian: anytime, no need to mention that :)
21:15:44 <ardian> mitzie, good point :P
21:15:50 * mhroncok is sad that in 2016 it's not possible to just wire transfer money all around the world for free
21:16:11 <ardian> mhroncok, wire transfer is very expensive
21:16:19 <ardian> let's just use bitcoin :P
21:16:23 <mhroncok> :D
21:16:26 <ardian> am I right mitzie :P?
21:16:26 <RGeri77> ardian: :-)
21:16:27 <giannisk> RGeri77: If it's SEPA, it won't cost much. If it's not, then be prepare to encounter large fees.
21:16:36 <mitzie> haha, +1 ardian
21:16:47 <giannisk> #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area
21:16:53 <Mohamed_fawzy> mhroncok:  in Egypt we cannt pay more than 200$ online/ month
21:16:56 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, dogcoin,bitcoin,e-coin :)
21:17:02 <Rathann> giannisk: sadly, Turkey is not in SEPA zone
21:17:03 <giannisk> s/prepare/prepared
21:17:19 <Mohamed_fawzy> and it will be reduced soon to 100 or 50
21:18:16 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: let's do fedoracoin :P
21:18:23 <ardian> mitzie, do you have anything to add in regards to FAD EMEA ?
21:18:28 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, owww I like the idea :)
21:18:38 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, we gonna make some non-profit , profit
21:18:43 <RGeri77> giannisk: +1 :-)
21:18:56 <mitzie> giannisk: there is an altcoin called fedoracoin :P
21:19:13 <giannisk> mitzie: there is? :P
21:19:19 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk++
21:19:21 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie++
21:19:21 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: Karma for mitzie changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:19:30 <mitzie> ardian: I know that there is one proposal for Budapest and one for Tirana
21:19:50 <ardian> mitzie, do we have a deadline for proposals ?
21:20:18 <giannisk> I went through the proposals a few minutes ago.
21:20:22 <mitzie> we didn't discuss one, but I don't think that we have anyone else willing to submit his bid
21:20:22 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Budapest_2016_bid
21:20:25 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Tirana_2016_bid
21:20:30 <jonatoni> yep, thats why i couldnt attend this meeting as i wanted :P i had to finish my proposal ;)
21:20:59 <mitzie> If no one else wants to submit a proposal we can close the call for bids and discuss which one we should choose
21:21:16 <giannisk> mitzie: But let's set a deadline
21:21:20 <ardian> mitzie, would it be ok, if we leave it until Sunday ?
21:21:24 <giannisk> mitzie: It's very much needed.
21:21:28 <ardian> yup
21:21:42 <mitzie> Yeah sure, I can post it in the list
21:21:49 <giannisk> We can't just assume that no-one else will submit a bid.
21:22:49 <giannisk> Suggestion: Let's pick a "winner" during next meeting.
21:22:52 <mitzie> Ok, so we will discuss all the proposals during the next meeting?
21:22:57 <mitzie> +1
21:23:01 <ardian> mitzie, +1
21:23:04 <thunderbirdtr> +1
21:23:06 <jonatoni> +1
21:23:35 <mitzie> nice, I can forward this to the list
21:23:47 <RGeri77> +1
21:23:53 <mohamed94> +1
21:23:56 * Rathann notes that flight prices from Warsaw are missing from both proposals
21:24:08 <ardian> #action Discuss all the proposals for FAD EMEA 2016 during our next meeting.
21:24:43 <ardian> mitzie, please post a deadline to the mailint list, maybe a day before the meeting is ok
21:24:56 <ardian> *mailing list
21:25:01 <mitzie> I guess no one would like to miss the next meeting ;)
21:25:15 <mitzie> ardian: yeah, that's what I thought
21:25:15 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie, +1 yeap.
21:25:41 <ardian> mitzie, hehe, good point. Don't miss the next meeting !
21:25:54 * ardian addressed to all :P
21:25:55 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, make it info :)
21:26:09 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, made it an action :)
21:26:20 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, I know :)
21:26:54 <ardian> Alright, if there isn't anything else to be discussed I will end the meeting in 4min.
21:27:12 <jonatoni> Thanks for chairing Ardian :)
21:27:19 <jonatoni> ardian++
21:27:28 <giannisk> ardian++
21:27:33 <thunderbirdtr> ardian++
21:27:35 <mohamed94> ++
21:27:37 <mitzie> offtopic link incoming:
21:28:08 <mitzie> The announcement post for FedoraCoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1420302.0
21:28:13 <mitzie> eof
21:28:21 <thunderbirdtr> damn it ! :)
21:28:22 <giannisk> Sorcery!
21:28:24 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, :D
21:28:29 <nmilosev> dear god
21:28:35 <thunderbirdtr> mitzie, I want to post that :D
21:28:52 * thunderbirdtr was waiting until end of even.
21:28:54 <thunderbirdtr> event*
21:29:57 <ardian> Thank you everyone for participating, wish you all a good night. See you in two weeks.
21:30:19 <nmilosev> thanks ardian++
21:30:25 <mohamed94> see you  all:D
21:30:30 <thunderbirdtr> good night everyone ! thanks ardian
21:30:42 <ardian> #endmeeting