20:00:12 <ardian> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-09-14
20:00:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 20:00:12 2016 UTC.  The chair is ardian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2016-09-14'
20:00:21 <ardian> #meetingname emea ambassadors
20:00:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
20:00:29 <ardian> #topic Roll Call
20:00:36 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:00:37 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian@brainpress.org>
20:00:42 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:00:43 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:00:44 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:00:45 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
20:00:46 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
20:00:46 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:00:49 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
20:00:52 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
20:00:54 <frantisekz> .fas frantisekz
20:00:58 <zodbot> frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' <Zatloukal.Frantisek@gmail.com>
20:01:07 * giannisk is also attending another meeting at the same time, ping him if needed.
20:01:16 <ardian> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait for some minutes for others to show up.
20:01:24 <ardian> #chair giannisk
20:01:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian giannisk
20:04:18 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:04:19 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:04:37 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:04:39 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
20:04:49 <andreasch> .fas andreasch
20:04:50 <zodbot> andreasch: andreasch 'Andreas Christoforou' <aceoscy@gmail.com>
20:05:04 <ardian> #topic Announcements
20:05:17 <ardian> #info Fedorahosted sunset: 2017-02-28
20:05:29 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedorahosted-sunset-2017-02-28/
20:06:06 <ardian> jflory7, told us about the proposed migration from track to pagure, this is the blog post.
20:06:15 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
20:06:16 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
20:06:26 <ardian> I don't have anything else to announce.
20:07:02 <ardian> Anybody else ?
20:07:34 <ardian> #topic Requests
20:07:46 * ardian gets the link
20:07:57 <ardian> #link fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:08:10 <ardian> #info Funding request for BalCCon 2k16 Ticket #602
20:08:20 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/602
20:08:58 <ardian> This ticket is okay from the budget perspective, it didn't pass votes last meeting, and we decided to vote this week.
20:09:26 <sesivany> why didn't it pass the voting last time?
20:09:46 <ardian> sesivany, it got only 4 votes.
20:09:53 <nmilosev> There were some issues, not being in a separate ticket etc.
20:10:01 <pkwesihanson> .fas edgates
20:10:04 <zodbot> pkwesihanson: edgates 'Elijah Hanson' <pkwesihanson@yahoo.com>
20:10:12 <sesivany> ah ok
20:10:27 <ardian> so let's vote on it
20:10:33 <ardian> +1
20:10:34 <nmilosev> +1
20:10:35 <frantisekz> +1
20:10:47 <giannisk> ardian: if there's an emergency, you can always ask a FAmSCo member to review requests on peer review basis
20:10:48 <giannisk> +1
20:10:51 <sesivany> +1
20:10:54 <andreasch> +1
20:10:57 <jonatoni> +1
20:11:06 <ardian> giannisk, thank you, I will do it next time.
20:11:28 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #602 approved
20:11:46 <giannisk> #info When there's an emergency, FAmSCo members may approve requests on peer review basis (maximum 500 USD per request).
20:11:59 <ardian> #info LinuxCon Europe 2016 - tickets, travel, lodging Ticket #603
20:12:10 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/603
20:12:35 <ardian> The ticket speaks for its self.
20:13:08 <ardian> It's also inside the budget.
20:13:16 <sesivany> If you need me to add anything, just say so.
20:13:32 <ardian> I think the ticket is clear, let's vote.
20:13:38 <ardian> +1
20:13:47 <frantisekz> +1
20:13:51 <mitzie> +1
20:13:53 <nmilosev> +1
20:13:56 <pkwesihanson> +1
20:14:01 <giannisk> +1
20:14:04 <andreasch> +1
20:14:19 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #603 approved
20:14:21 <jonatoni> +1
20:14:33 <ardian> Wish you good luck!
20:14:41 <sesivany> thanks everyone
20:14:59 <nmilosev> Say hi to Linus for us :)
20:15:02 <ardian> #info SFK 2016 - travel expenses of Bhagyashree Padalkar Ticket #604
20:15:10 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/604
20:15:24 <b10n1k> +1
20:15:34 <ardian> This ticket is create by me for bee2502
20:15:42 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:15:43 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
20:15:55 <bee2502> thanks ardian
20:15:56 <ardian> I think we got even e cheaper ticket, bee2502 mind sharing the price again here ?
20:16:13 <giannisk> On a side note, bee2502, like every other EMEA contributor (non-ambassador) is also eligible to submit requests at the EMEA trac directly.
20:16:42 <bee2502> so if we adjust the dates a bit, the ticket price can be 81 euros
20:17:04 <bee2502> that's the fare today however and might change
20:17:14 <ardian> giannisk, Thanks for the clarification.
20:17:32 <ardian> The initial budget was planned to be 300$
20:17:36 <bee2502> giannisk : thanks, I will keep that in mind.
20:17:51 <jflory7> :)
20:18:23 <nmilosev> +1 from me
20:18:26 <jonatoni> +1
20:18:46 <sesivany> +1
20:18:46 <ardian> We asked for 200$ just in case it gets more expensive than 81 EUR.
20:18:50 <frantisekz> +1
20:18:51 <mitzie> +1
20:18:53 <andreasch> +1
20:19:11 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #604 approved
20:19:21 <ardian> Thank you everyone.
20:19:27 <bee2502> thanks everyone
20:19:40 <giannisk> +1
20:20:34 <ardian> #info Funding request for LinuxCon EU 2016 Ticket #605
20:20:47 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/605
20:21:15 <jflory7> bee2502++
20:21:23 <ardian> The ticket speaks for its self.
20:21:30 <jflory7> bee2502: Congrats on the scholarship again ;)
20:21:44 <ardian> +1
20:21:47 <bee2502> thanks jflory7
20:22:04 <sesivany> +1
20:22:08 <nmilosev> +1
20:22:17 <jonatoni> +1
20:22:18 <giannisk> +1
20:22:31 <frantisekz> +1
20:22:42 <mitzie> The request is a bit minimal, but I'd love to answer any questions :)
20:22:52 <andreasch> +1
20:22:59 <giannisk> mitzie: I suppose there weren't any cheaper fares, right?
20:23:13 <nmilosev> This is just the plane ticket, right?
20:23:17 <giannisk> mitzie: On the other hand it would make sense, since we're a few weeks until the actual event.
20:24:34 <mitzie> There was a cheaper alternative with Ryanair, but I need to buy a checked bag to bring the rollup banners, and bags in ryanair are not cheap
20:25:01 <mitzie> plus I'm coming from Samos where I'm studying, which brings up the costs more
20:25:50 <ardian> mitzie, safe travels, good luck for the event.
20:26:05 <mitzie> thanks ardian and everyone else
20:26:11 <ardian> If nobody has anything else to add, I will approve the ticket.
20:26:59 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #605 approved
20:27:43 <ardian> Let's move to the next topic.
20:27:55 <ardian> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:28:09 <ardian> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:29:03 <ardian> sesivany, I'd like to ask if we are good with swag, I am still having a bit of difficulties understanding the ambassadors schedule.
20:29:51 <ardian> I don't have anything else to add in this topic.
20:30:27 <sesivany> ardian: I'll check with Kveta tomo,  but we should be fine.
20:30:41 <mitzie> sesivany: we have 700$ we can spend in this quarter for swag production
20:31:21 <ardian> I am also getting a lot of emails from people asking me for swag. Seems the process is not clear enough and a bit slow.
20:31:50 <ardian> Any ideas how we can improve?
20:33:02 <nmilosev> Do you mean that the other contributors are asking you for swag, without making a ticket?
20:33:26 <FedoraUser> .hello fedorauser
20:33:28 <zodbot> FedoraUser: fedorauser 'Medic Momcilo' <medicmomcilo@gmail.com>
20:33:36 * FedoraUser is sorry for being late
20:33:52 * nmilosev o/ FedoraUser
20:34:01 <jflory7> fedbot: o/
20:34:07 <jflory7> Err... FedoraUser
20:34:08 <ardian> nmilosev, no their creating the tickets and they are not assigning the ticket to kmrstiko
20:34:21 <FedoraUser> \o
20:34:22 * ardian *they are
20:34:46 <nmilosev> If I am not mistaken, there is a wiki page on how to request swag
20:34:49 <FedoraUser> it seems that tickets are slowly being processed, perhaps Kveta is rather busy
20:35:21 <nmilosev> kmrstiko got in touch with me today, she was on a conference and quite busy lately
20:36:05 <ardian> Maybe we can suggest something on the mailing list.
20:36:25 <ardian> Let's go to the next topic.
20:36:53 <ardian> #topic Events
20:37:27 <ardian> Any recent events you have been part of, would you like to report ?
20:37:56 <nmilosev> !
20:38:27 <ardian> nmilosev, yes
20:38:53 <nmilosev> We had a very successful and fun BalCCon2k16. Myself, FedoraUser, thunderbirdtr, and Sarupbanskota with a few local Fedora people :)
20:39:00 <giannisk> nmilosev++
20:39:06 <FedoraUser> nmilosev++
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20:39:08 <ardian> nmilosev++
20:39:12 <nmilosev> You can read my report here:
20:39:23 <nmilosev> #link https://nmilosev.svbtle.com/fedora-balccon2k16-event-report
20:39:35 <mitzie> nmilosev++
20:39:36 <zodbot> mitzie: Karma for nmilosev changed to 9 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:39:40 <nmilosev> There is also the image gallery there.
20:39:53 <nmilosev> I have to mention that we had issues with shipping media/swag (again)
20:40:05 <ardian> Whoa awesome.
20:40:18 <FedoraUser> I believe we're really making a difference as attendees are some of the more influential people
20:40:27 <nmilosev> Customs impounded the package, and we only had some leftover swag there.
20:40:29 <FedoraUser> (also had a FSFE stand right next to us :) )
20:40:35 <ardian> I saw there was a picture of a friend of mine he was on a Wanted paper.
20:40:54 <jflory7> nmilosev++
20:40:55 <nmilosev> The event was really successful and we made a lot of connections. :)
20:41:02 <bee2502> nmilosev++
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20:41:22 <nmilosev> Anyway, related to the customs problems, I started working on this:
20:41:29 <nmilosev> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Shipping_tips
20:41:46 <ardian> nmilosev++
20:41:50 <nmilosev> I think it should be helpful when sending stuff to other Fedora contributors
20:42:07 <nmilosev> Please add your country data there if it is necessary. :)
20:42:19 <ardian> I also have a lot of problems with our customs in Kosovo.
20:42:42 <ardian> I will check the wiki, thanks.
20:42:57 <nmilosev> Yes, a lot of people are having issues, so I think we can help each other out with some useful information.
20:43:01 <pkwesihanson> nmilosev++
20:43:48 <nmilosev> As far BalCCon2k16 is concerned I think we can call it a massive success all thanks to everyone involved. :)
20:43:51 <nmilosev> eof from me
20:43:54 <b10n1k> nmilosev++
20:43:54 <zodbot> b10n1k: Karma for nmilosev changed to 11 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:44:05 <ardian> Our Call for Speaker is open until tomorrow, mitzie told me we have some budget, if anyone want's to come we do have 100-200$ to sponsor.
20:44:17 <ardian> #link sfk.flossk.org/sfk16/
20:44:58 <ardian> Let's move to the next topic.
20:45:07 <ardian> #topic Action items from previous meeting
20:45:24 <ardian> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-31/emea_ambassadors.2016-08-31-20.00.html
20:46:05 <ardian> There are no action from previous meeting.
20:46:28 <ardian> #topic Open Floor
20:46:41 <ardian> Everything else goes here.
20:46:47 <mitzie> !
20:47:01 <ardian> mitzie, yes please.
20:47:36 <jflory7> ?
20:48:30 <mitzie> Traditionally in EMEA we have a FAD every year in early December where we discuss stuff like budget proposal for the next year, swag production, events for the next year and so on and so forth
20:49:06 <mitzie> Last year our meetup at DevConf was an exception, because we could get approval for the budget
20:49:58 <mitzie> So I would like to bring this again for discussion and prepare for a FAD in November/December
20:50:08 <mitzie> eof
20:50:17 <ardian> +1 mitzie
20:50:36 <giannisk> mitzie: +1, if we have a community that wishes to take the lead this time, it would be perfect
20:50:55 <giannisk> all: for the record, the folks in the German community used to organize EMEA FADs for years
20:51:25 <ardian> I really like the idea, I wish I could help in someway. Though the community here is still low.
20:51:26 <mitzie> I can send an email to the list asking if someone would like to take the lead this time and be the organizer for this 2 day event
20:52:02 <ardian> mitzie, yes please.
20:52:19 <giannisk> mitzie++
20:52:19 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for mitzie changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:52:24 <jonatoni> Maybe we can do it in Tirana, Albania
20:52:37 <nmilosev> Also, with swag production, maybe it would be a good idea to do it (in smaller scale) in countries with importing issues. This could be discussed also.
20:52:44 <mitzie> ardian: can you make this an action for me? thanks
20:52:51 <giannisk> jonatoni: if your community is willing to make it happen, that would be great!
20:53:15 <jonatoni> giannisk definitely yes
20:53:26 <ardian> #action mitzie to send an email regarding EMEA FAD to the mailing list.
20:53:39 <giannisk> jonatoni: be on the lookout of mitzie's e-mail to the list
20:54:08 <mitzie> nmilosev: In FADs we also distribute swag to Ambassadors there to take it back to their countries
20:54:22 <nmilosev> This is a very good idea.
20:54:22 <jonatoni> giannisk yes :)
20:54:45 <b10n1k> again... what are the requirements to organize a FAD?
20:54:45 <ardian> mitzie, eof?
20:54:56 <mitzie> eof ardian, thanks
20:55:35 <ardian> mitzie, thanks a lot for bringing it up.
20:55:53 <jflory7> b10n1k: There is a template you can find here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:FAD
20:56:11 <b10n1k> thanks jflory7
20:56:19 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
20:56:21 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
20:56:31 * thunderbirdtr was listening entire time :) at least
20:56:42 <ardian> jflory7, the stage is yours
20:56:56 <nmilosev> ardian, can we also make an action please for the shipping wiki page, or should I write on the mailing list about it?
20:56:58 <jflory7> ardian: I was just curious if anyone knew of any Ambassadors in Croatia.
20:57:47 <nmilosev> jflory7, I met some guys from Croatia on EuroPython, and they mentioned that they knew a Fedora Ambassador in Croatia, but when I checked his wiki page it seemed that he is rather inactive
20:57:54 <giannisk> jflory7: I've I'm not mistaken, we don't have any ambassadors in Croatia.
20:58:35 <giannisk> jflory7: We do however have several users and also people interested in contributing. I have some contacts there. Visited Croatia last May. :)
20:58:36 <ardian> #action nmilosev write an email to the mailing list, regarding the tips for problems with customs.
20:59:10 <nmilosev> thanks ardian
20:59:45 * jflory7 nods
20:59:59 <giannisk> s/I've/If
21:00:13 <ardian> okay, if there isn't anything else to discussed I will end the meeting in 3min.
21:00:16 <jflory7> nmilosev, giannisk: Thanks. I'll see what the scene is like when I land there.
21:00:37 <frantisekz> I've forgot to mention - DevConf.cz CfP is open, so don't forget to submit your talks at devconf.cz
21:00:46 <giannisk> jflory7: Feel free to let me know should you wish to be connected with the local community. :)
21:00:54 <nmilosev> jflory7, you are close to Serbia, I'm expecting you visit us :)
21:01:05 <giannisk> frantisekz++
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21:01:08 <ardian> frantisekz++
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21:01:17 <jflory7> giannisk: Please do - I'm planning on being in Dubrovnik from January to May.
21:01:23 <jflory7> nmilosev: I'd love to come by :)
21:02:24 <FedoraUser> ardian++ thanks for chairing
21:02:32 <giannisk> jflory7: awesome, will speak later!
21:02:33 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, I think we done ? and thanks for chairing
21:02:34 <jflory7> ardian++ for sure :)
21:02:39 <thunderbirdtr> ardian++
21:02:41 <ardian> Thank you everyone for participating, wish you all a good night. See you in two weeks.
21:02:43 <jflory7> giannisk: Sounds good to me!
21:02:46 <giannisk> ardian++
21:02:50 <mitzie> thanks ardian
21:02:59 <FedoraUser> oh zodbot, you fail us yet again
21:02:59 <b10n1k> bb
21:03:01 <FedoraUser> :)
21:03:16 <ardian> #endmeeting