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21:00:11 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:00:14 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
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21:00:16 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:00:18 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:19 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:00:35 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:00:36 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
21:01:17 <jflory7> Evening!
21:01:28 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
21:01:29 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
21:01:47 <x3mboy> Good Afternoon/Evening
21:01:59 <stickster> #chair jflory7 x3mboy
21:01:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 stickster x3mboy
21:02:24 <jflory7> Wow, a lot of articles up for review tonight!
21:02:34 <stickster> #topic Last week review
21:02:42 <x3mboy> jflory7, Yeah!!!
21:02:52 <x3mboy> People is really writing!!!
21:03:02 <jflory7> x3mboy: Is "How to use your browser efficiently?" a draft or pending review?
21:03:08 <jflory7> x3mboy: Definitely :)
21:03:26 <x3mboy> Pending
21:03:33 * jflory7 swaps it over as so
21:03:39 <x3mboy> Need some images and a feature image
21:04:10 <stickster> #info 44757 views week of Aug 29 -- higher than anything since July
21:04:32 * x3mboy nods
21:04:33 <jflory7> \o/ The kernel article actually seemed to get a lot of attention
21:04:45 <jflory7> Or, more than I had originally anticipated at least.
21:05:16 <stickster> #info August views 171K, down from July 195K but not terribly so
21:06:06 <stickster> Remember this includes our very quiet Flock week
21:06:11 <stickster> So not too shabby
21:06:22 <stickster> #topic Pending review posts
21:06:37 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
21:06:47 * jflory7 nods
21:07:04 <jflory7> Yeah, that's not too bad at all considering the lull from that week
21:07:32 <stickster> #info --- Smartlight using Arduino ---
21:07:40 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13254&preview=1&_ppp=b0f42b9044
21:07:55 <jflory7> This is a holding pen article that recently resurfaced
21:08:00 <jflory7> :)
21:08:15 <stickster> Looks like it's got some answers in it. Who was editing this one?
21:08:27 <jflory7> I originally edited it.
21:08:34 <x3mboy> I think this one is going to get a lot of attention too
21:08:42 <jflory7> I could follow up and get it wrapped up and out.
21:09:00 <jflory7> Featured image is already done. A technical reviewer might be nice here, though.
21:09:20 <stickster> jflory7: you had an article coming tomorrow IIRC... don't want to pile too much on you
21:09:39 <stickster> but I think the consistency of editing is probably a good thing
21:09:51 <jflory7> This one should be an easy edit for me to follow up on over the weekend.
21:10:04 <stickster> linuxmodder: so you have been offering tech review for stuff... here's one you could contribute to before the fact
21:10:48 <stickster> #nick linuxmodder
21:11:00 <stickster> #action jflory7 to seek out linuxmodder and see if he'll tech-review this one
21:11:03 * jflory7 nods
21:11:05 <jflory7> Can do.
21:11:13 <stickster> But yeah, this could go out next week for sure
21:11:26 <stickster> It's a neat "how to" type project article
21:11:42 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Apply last bit of polish to "Smart light" article based on in-line feedback comments in article for early next week
21:11:47 <stickster> sumantro is a QA guy so I'd hope he's good at writing out steps like this :-)
21:11:55 <x3mboy> The image link is broken
21:12:10 <jflory7> x3mboy: Which one?
21:12:17 <x3mboy> Unsplash
21:12:29 <x3mboy> Image courtesy of Ondrej Supitar – originally posted to Unsplash here.
21:12:36 <jflory7> x3mboy: Oh, huh, nice catch
21:12:49 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Find the current home / link for the featured image credit
21:12:52 <jflory7> #undo
21:12:52 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 21:12:49 : jflory7 Find the current home / link for the featured image credit
21:12:56 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Find the current home / link for the featured image credit in "Smart light" article
21:13:01 <x3mboy> The user page (Ondrej Supitar) and the suposed images (here)
21:13:19 <jflory7> x3mboy: Ohh... the user might have deleted their account. Hmmmm...
21:13:31 <jflory7> Not sure what the best action there might be...
21:13:36 <stickster> Deleted his image... but that's none of my business *drinks from cup*
21:13:52 <x3mboy> LOL
21:14:09 <stickster> jflory7: assuming it was up at some point, it's offered under Unsplash license and later removal doesn't change the licensing terms. OK to publish still.
21:14:31 <jflory7> Sounds good.
21:15:13 <x3mboy> jflory7, maybe you can check: https://stocksnap.io/author/913 or https://www.flickr.com/photos/drewthephoto/
21:15:23 <x3mboy> I think is the same person
21:15:56 <jflory7> x3mboy: Looks like it - I'll dig into it more there. Thanks! x3mboy++
21:16:32 <stickster> #info --- PostgreSQL quick start ---
21:16:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14346&preview=1&_ppp=17352bec57
21:16:49 <stickster> I think this is supposed to be going out tomorrow
21:17:10 * jflory7 nods
21:17:14 <jflory7> I vaguely remember that too.
21:17:18 <stickster> jflory7: I can whip you up a quick image if we truncate this meeting... Ryan won't be around tonight/tomorrow AFAIK
21:17:22 <jflory7> Did I volunteer for this one?
21:17:32 <jflory7> stickster: Yeah, if you could do an image, I can do the editing on this one later tonight.
21:17:36 <stickster> jflory7: nope
21:17:41 <stickster> downey: This one was yours :-)
21:17:47 <jflory7> Ahh, that's right
21:18:20 <stickster> It's not been edited AFAICT... still see Czechisms throughout
21:18:28 * jflory7 nods
21:18:35 <jflory7> If downey is unavailable, I can get this one tonight.
21:19:15 <stickster> jflory7: You're a dynamo
21:19:38 * stickster will take some too, promise, just can't do them until next week
21:20:03 <jflory7> No problem. I'll happily take tomorrow and early next week if you take the later tail of next week :)
21:20:07 <stickster> #action jflory7 will edit PostgreSQL quick start tonight for publication tomorrow
21:20:10 <stickster> jflory7: can do
21:20:28 <stickster> So it seems like we have tomorrow handled, and *maybe* one article next week (Arduino)
21:20:32 <jflory7> I'll be doing heavy traveling for the next two weekends, so my time to edit after this weekend will be a little bit shortened
21:20:50 <jflory7> stickster: Sounds right to me.
21:21:04 <stickster> #info --- PostgreSQL 9.5 overview ---
21:21:13 <stickster> #info stickster contacted hhorak, no word back yet on this
21:21:30 * jflory7 also makes a mental note that the Ansible one is probably one to cover later tonight since it's been pending review for a long time
21:21:32 <stickster> #action stickster ping hhorak again and if no answer next week, this goes to holding pen
21:21:49 <jflory7> This sounds good to me. Thanks for following up on this one.
21:21:49 <stickster> #info --- Ansible/Vagrant ---
21:21:55 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14222&preview=1&_ppp=08194bbe31
21:21:55 <x3mboy> Does this one come after the quick start?
21:22:14 <stickster> x3mboy: it could, yes -- they're not in series, but complementary
21:22:16 <jflory7> x3mboy: I think the idea was the overview would come after, yeah.
21:22:19 <jflory7> stickster++
21:22:28 <stickster> This article looks fantastic
21:22:40 <jflory7> If I remember, ryanlerch did some poking into this one already
21:22:58 <x3mboy> jflory7, https://www.flickr.com/photos/drewthephoto/19482889032/ here is the picture
21:23:14 <x3mboy> It's all right reserved
21:23:17 <x3mboy> :S
21:23:19 <jflory7> stickster: I think it might be a safe bet to action this one to ryanlerch if it's all sound and ready to publish.
21:24:07 <stickster> x3mboy: I'll leave this up to jflory7 to decide, but if you publish under a free license (like on Unsplash), withdraw, and republish, it doesn't negate the previous license if someone retrieved it under those terms.
21:24:16 <jflory7> ^
21:24:23 <jflory7> If I have the time, I will try to find a different image
21:24:29 <stickster> jflory7 is of course the EIC so he gets to make that call :-)
21:24:38 <stickster> I'm just advising from the licensing standpoint :-)
21:24:46 <jflory7> But if not, I'll stick with this one. But I'll at least make an attempt to find an alternative option
21:25:32 <stickster> #action stickster Edit the Ansible/Vagrant article on Monday afternoon, and create an image, for a potential publication Tuesday or Wednesday
21:26:00 <jflory7> stickster: It looks like this one has an image already.
21:26:20 <stickster> WOOHOO! less work for me
21:26:29 <stickster> \o/
21:26:34 <jflory7> stickster: Maybe ping ryanlerch to see his thoughts on it - I do remember him commenting on this one somewhere
21:26:43 <jflory7> Not sure if it was already a WIP or otherwise.
21:26:50 <x3mboy> I need to learn how to make featured images. There is a lot of good photos related to lightbulbs on flickr with the right license
21:26:56 * stickster doesn't understand why we have to advertise Ubuntu in this article :-\
21:27:23 <stickster> I'll see if I can adapt it, there are certainly Fedora boxes available out there
21:27:29 <x3mboy> stickster, already discussed. It's an ubuntu VM inside fedora
21:27:30 * jflory7 thinks this was actually an article once published on omgubuntu
21:27:33 <stickster> or CentOS
21:27:46 <x3mboy> Fedora Host, i meant
21:28:20 <stickster> understood. But it could just as easily be something in our family on interior, like CentOS
21:28:34 <x3mboy> If images are changed, the whole article need to be edited
21:28:50 <stickster> x3mboy: I have to edit anyway, I'm willing to take that on :-)
21:29:40 <stickster> 98% of the text stays the same, it's just a few commands, and a couple screenshots
21:30:14 * jflory7 nods
21:30:15 <x3mboy> If you take the shot, np for me ;-)
21:30:20 <x3mboy> shoot*
21:31:30 <stickster> #info --- New Firefox 48 features ---
21:31:31 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14316&preview=1&_ppp=164682a1af
21:31:46 <stickster> #info this is actually going to be updated by the author -- v49 is being built and pushed soon
21:32:00 <x3mboy> I have no more space left on my HDD to VM :'(
21:32:00 <stickster> #action stickster continue working with stransky to get this done and ready
21:32:13 <jflory7> :thumbsup:
21:32:25 <stickster> #info --- WebVR ---
21:32:31 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14475&preview=1&_ppp=f5f5c8b606
21:32:43 <stickster> This needs editing for sure
21:33:00 <stickster> I'll take this on to be done late next week
21:33:19 <jflory7> Yep - it might be helpful to ask sumantrom to upload the images to the Magazine directly
21:33:33 <stickster> Oh are these hosted?
21:33:37 <jflory7> If I recall, he usually embeds them from his blog and sometimes the resolution is spotty.
21:33:54 <stickster> #action stickster edit WebVR article for potential publication Monday 2016-09-19
21:33:57 <jflory7> By their size, I guessed they were - but I haven't looked yet.
21:34:59 <stickster> They look good this time
21:35:02 <stickster> I'll resize when I edit
21:35:06 <jflory7> Oh, then never mind!
21:35:16 <stickster> np! :-)
21:35:28 <stickster> Now I hear that cprofitt also has a new HDYF coming soon
21:35:42 <stickster> Should we cross fingers he has that for us in time for next week?
21:35:45 <jflory7> I hear the same rumor. :)
21:35:47 <x3mboy> Resolution is 1024x768. Looks ok for me
21:36:03 <stickster> I usually edit for him, and have no problems doing that again... it's always quick because Charles provides solid text to start
21:36:12 <jflory7> stickster: If past precedent is any indicator, I think it's a fair assumption. I can also ask him when I see him next week. :)
21:36:18 <stickster> coolio
21:36:29 <stickster> So let me do this:
21:38:38 <stickster> Proposed schedule: Fri 2016-09-09 (tomorrow): PostgreSQL quick start, jflory7; Mon/Tue 2016-09-12/13: Arduino smart light, jflory7; Wed 2016-09-14: Ansible/Vagrant, stickster; Fri 2016-09-16: HDYF (TBA), stickster; EXTRA: possible Firefox v49 article somewhere in there if it's ready
21:38:40 * jflory7 thinks after this, we can probably check out the FUDCon article and then revisit the rest later on
21:38:44 <stickster> ^ sound right?
21:38:56 <jflory7> stickster: The FUDCon one might be better to get out the door sooner than later.
21:39:19 <jflory7> stickster: Scrolling through it now, it looks like we should ship it at any time as well - but I haven't read it for content yet
21:39:20 <stickster> agreed, we can push that ASAP, and if we're talking about tomorrow, would be OK for everything else to slide to the right if
21:39:46 <jflory7> Maybe want to do a bump everything to the right? FUDCon tomorrow, everything else to follow sequence after?
21:39:53 <stickster> yeah
21:40:00 <stickster> OK, one more time:
21:40:43 <stickster> Proposed schedule: Fri 2016-09-09 (tomorrow): FUDCon, jflory7; Mon 2016-09-12: PostgreSQL quick start, jflory7; Wed 2016-09-14: Arduino smart light, jflory7; Fri 2016-09-16: Ansible/Vagrant, stickster; Mon 2016-09-19: HDYF (TBA), stickster; EXTRA: possible Firefox v49 article somewhere in there if it's ready
21:41:00 <jflory7> :100:
21:41:04 <jflory7> Sounds good to me!
21:41:14 <stickster> #agreed Publishing schedule upcoming: Fri 2016-09-09 (tomorrow): FUDCon, jflory7; Mon 2016-09-12: PostgreSQL quick start, jflory7; Wed 2016-09-14: Arduino smart light, jflory7; Fri 2016-09-16: Ansible/Vagrant, stickster; Mon 2016-09-19: HDYF (TBA), stickster; EXTRA: possible Firefox v49 article somewhere in there if it's ready
21:41:23 <x3mboy> +1
21:41:26 <stickster> jflory7: OK, where should we take things next?
21:41:31 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Review and edit FUDCon article for publishing tomorrow morning
21:41:39 <stickster> right on
21:41:51 <stickster> I guess all the other actions will be off date but doing them early won't hurt :-)
21:41:52 <jflory7> stickster: I think everything else we have pending, we can review next meeting.
21:41:56 <stickster> agreed
21:42:03 <stickster> #topic FUDCon article
21:42:06 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14442&preview=1&_ppp=eef273cc9f
21:42:47 <stickster> jflory7: I have about 20-30 minutes left. If we end the meeting early, I could edit this quickly so you aren't overburdened
21:43:01 <jflory7> Oh, if you could do the FUDCon article, that would be great :)
21:43:03 <stickster> but I'm happy to leave it in your hands if you like, just want the offer out there :-)
21:43:07 <stickster> DONE!
21:43:10 <jflory7> \o/
21:43:25 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Undo previous action!
21:43:35 <stickster> lol
21:43:44 <stickster> #action stickster (change of plans) edit the FUDCon article and schedule on behalf of illustrious leader and EIC jflory7
21:43:54 <x3mboy> FUDCon Latam will be sooner that ASEAN
21:43:56 <stickster> #topic Open floor
21:43:58 <jflory7> stickster++
21:44:08 <stickster> x3mboy: true but we don't have an article for LATAM
21:44:13 <stickster> maybe this will prompt someone to send us one :-)
21:44:19 * jflory7 does a very quick scroll through his inbox for anything to maybe cover last minute
21:44:30 * stickster starts editing, hands jflory7 the gavel
21:45:08 * jflory7 doesn't see anything to mention now
21:45:20 <jflory7> If nothing else, we can just gavel on out :)
21:45:30 <jflory7> Going once...
21:45:34 <x3mboy> Nothing from me
21:45:40 <jflory7> Going twice...
21:45:45 <jflory7> Going thrice...
21:46:02 <jflory7> And we're outta here! Thanks stickster for chairing tonight and thanks for being here, x3mboy! :)
21:46:06 <jflory7> See you all in channel...
21:46:07 <jflory7> #endmeeting