13:02:19 <bkp> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2016-09-06) 13:02:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Sep 6 13:02:19 2016 UTC. The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:19 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:02:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_meeting_(2016-09-06)' 13:02:30 <bkp> #meetingname marketing 13:02:30 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing' 13:02:37 <bkp> #chair bkp 13:02:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkp 13:02:51 <bkp> #topic Agenda 13:03:03 <bkp> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2016-09-06 13:03:11 <bkp> #topic Roll Call 13:03:21 <bkp> #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas 13:03:37 <bkp> Yo, all! Who's here this fine day? 13:04:20 <bkm_> Hi 13:04:37 <mailga> #info mailga timezone:UTC+2 sub:projects:various other projects mainly ambassadors, mktg. 13:04:45 <bkp> #info Brian Proffitt, UTC+4, marketing/social media 13:05:15 <bkp> #info Brian Proffitt, UTC-4, marketing/social media 13:05:23 <bkm_> bkm UTC+3, learning about mktg 13:06:08 <bkp> Because I am not in Central Russia 13:06:48 <bkp> x3mboy: You around? 13:06:53 <mailga> bkp: don't you like Central Russia? :-D 13:06:55 <x3mboy> Yes 13:07:00 <x3mboy> Sorry 13:07:02 <x3mboy> ,fas x3mboy 13:07:05 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy 13:07:05 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 13:07:25 <bkp> #chair mailga bkm_ x3mboy 13:07:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkm_ bkp mailga x3mboy 13:07:53 <bkp> I got no problems with Cntral Russia. I am just not in that timezone. 13:08:04 <bkp> Okay, anyone else? 13:08:16 * mailga was kidding. 13:08:25 * bkp knows 13:08:44 <bkp> We Hoosiers are sardonic. 13:09:13 <bkp> Does not look like anyone else is joining, though I know jflory will be in later. 13:09:24 <bkp> #topic Announcements 13:09:30 <bkp> #info === Marketing Trac migrated to Pagure === 13:09:36 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/ 13:09:46 <bkp> #info Last night, the Fedora Marketing Trac was migrated over to Pagure. As of today, the Pagure is the official place for tickets, creating tasks, and working on issues. Please be sure to update any of your bookmarks or shortcuts to point to the Pagure instead of the Trac. 13:10:00 <bkp> (Yay) 13:10:07 <bkp> #info === "Announcing the release of Fedora 25 Alpha!" === 13:10:14 <bkp> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/OV3APVA63F4EM5FDLBN5DK5OKEZJWROJ/ 13:10:22 <bkp> #info "The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the availability of the Fedora 25 Alpha, an important milestone on the road to our Fedora 25 release in November." 13:10:28 <bkp> #info === "Welcoming our new Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator" === 13:10:35 <bkp> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/welcoming-new-fedora-community-coordinator/ 13:10:43 <bkp> #info "Good news, everybody! I’m pleased to announce that we have completed our search for a new Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator, and he’ll be joining the Open Source and Standards (OSAS) team to work with Fedora as of 3 October. Please give a warm welcome to Brian Exelbierd (bexelbie)!" 13:10:59 <bkp> (Also yay!) 13:11:11 <x3mboy> #info x3mboy; UTC-3; Ambassadors, Magazine, G11N 13:11:15 <bkp> Any questions or comments about these announcements? 13:11:20 <x3mboy> Sorry, I have a delay 13:11:28 <bkp> NP x3mboy 13:11:48 <mailga> bkp: nope, only good wishes to bexelbie 13:12:00 <x3mboy> No comments for now 13:12:08 <bkp> Yeah, I had heard about this while I was at LinuxCon and was very happy about it. 13:12:24 <bkp> Right then, moving on. 13:12:38 <bkp> #topic Action items from last meetings 13:12:45 <bkp> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-30/marketing.2016-08-30-13.04.html 13:12:58 <bkp> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 13:13:03 <bkp> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 13:13:07 <bkp> Yerg 13:13:11 <bkp> #info === bkp to sync with mattdm on F25 alpha announcement === 13:13:20 * bexelbie pokes his head in .. reads back and smiles ... thank you 13:13:43 <x3mboy> bexelbie, Good luck and congrats! 13:13:48 <bkp> Yeah, yeah, bexelbie, soak up all the glory now. 13:13:51 <bkp> :P 13:13:59 <bexelbie> and all the paperwork starting 3 October :P 13:14:20 <bexelbie> unrelated - your pagure link looks broken and I am interested in how that is going to work out as a trac replacement 13:14:47 <bkp> On this: they pushed out the Alpha release literally 5 minutes after we stopped last week's meeting, so I will work with mattdm on the beta and general announcements. 13:15:18 <bkp> bexelbie: Noted. Though what do you mean broken? 13:15:24 <bkp> It works for me. 13:16:02 <bkp> https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/ 13:16:08 <bexelbie> bkp, n/m it just completed - got a host error at first 13:16:17 <bexelbie> sorry for distracting the meeting 13:16:18 <bkp> K. Whew. 13:16:26 <mailga> bkp: it didn't work befora (error 500) now it works fine. 13:16:26 <bkp> NP 13:16:33 <bkp> #info === x3mboy to take on ticket 237 === 13:17:01 <bkp> x3mboy: Want to go over this in the Tickets section of the meeting or now? 13:17:20 <x3mboy> bkp, on action. ETA 09-06-2016 22:00 UTC-3 13:17:33 <bkp> Noted. 13:17:49 <bkp> Moving on! 13:17:50 <bkp> #topic Tickets 13:17:51 <x3mboy> bkp, it's date notation right? 13:17:58 <x3mboy> MM-DD-YYYY??? 13:17:59 <bkp> x3mboy: Yes 13:18:01 <x3mboy> Ok 13:18:17 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issues?tags=meeting 13:18:47 <bkp> #info === Ticket #231 === 13:18:54 <bkp> #info "Create Fedora 25 talking points" 13:18:59 * mailga thinks that for the beta release announcement a ticket (or issue) is mandatory, isn't it? 13:19:06 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/231 13:19:24 <bkp> Yeah, hang on. 13:20:55 <bkp> Stand by please, workmen just arrived 13:21:16 <mailga> bkp: workmen? 13:22:32 <x3mboy> For F25 talking points on cloud, they request to us to wait 2 weeks (last week, so there is 1 week remainin), because major changes are happening in Fedora Council and it seems that Cloud will change a lot 13:23:40 <mailga> x3mboy: yes, If I have correctly understood, cloud and server will join, a sort of. Or not? 13:24:33 <x3mboy> mailga, i'm not sure, they said something about atomic and and the container cloud, but I don't have details 13:24:56 <bkp> mailga: Yeah, my basement flooded two weeks ago. 13:25:04 <bkp> Sorry about that, thought they were coming later 13:25:31 <bkp> From the agenda: Talking points are beginning to look more complete. Some follow-up needed by some groups (looks like Workstation and Cloud might expand more), but this is looking much better. Anyone have anything to add in here? Otherwise, we can begin using this info for compiling the Beta release announcement. 13:25:33 <mailga> bkp: sorry to hear that. 13:25:43 <bkp> No worries. 13:25:56 <bkp> Be glad you aren't here to hear the noise. 13:26:31 <mailga> bkp: IMO it's better wait a bit more. Any change in TP will reflect in the RA. 13:27:03 <mailga> bkp: it's better follow changes few times instead of lots. 13:27:04 <bkp> Wait to compile the release announcement, mailga? 13:27:13 <mailga> bkp: yes, sorry. 13:27:14 <bkp> (Just clarifying) 13:27:30 <x3mboy> +1 to wait at least one more week 13:27:47 <bkp> #action Will continue to gather TP info for one more week. 13:28:06 <bkp> Sounds good. 13:28:15 * mailga meant follow few changes instead of lots, of course. 13:28:29 <bkp> I gotcha. 13:28:30 <bkp> #info === Ticket #235 === 13:28:39 <bkp> #info "Marketing group list FAS cleaning" 13:28:47 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/235 13:28:58 <bkp> From agenda: mailga was leading this one. Going through members of the FAS group, identifying who still wishes to contribute, removing those who do not respond or no longer interested. Any help needed on this one, mailga? 13:29:46 <mailga> I gave one week for any objection. A week is passed so I can start to send mails. Anyone has anything to say about it? 13:30:02 <bkp> I do not 13:30:31 <mailga> ok, in a couple of days I proceed. 13:31:03 <mailga> of course when done I'll update the ticket with steps. 13:31:21 <mailga> eof 13:31:28 <bkp> #action Ticket #235 mailga will proceed in a couple of days and will update the ticket as needed 13:31:36 <bkp> Okay. 13:31:42 <bkp> #info === Ticket #237 === 13:31:49 <bkp> #info "Review Firefox Bookmarks For Update" 13:31:55 <bkp> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/237 13:33:04 <bkp> #action x3mboy working on this, ETA 09-06-2016 22:00 UTC-3 13:33:13 <mailga> bkp: I opened the ticket but I can't assign to me, is there anyone who want pick up yhis issue? 13:33:31 <mailga> ups, ok. Let's assign to x3mboy 13:33:31 <bkp> mailga: Which issue? 237? 13:33:36 <x3mboy> Same with 237 13:33:49 <bkp> x3mboy picked this up last week 13:33:57 <mailga> bkp: yes (I still don't know if call it issue or ticket). 13:34:09 <bkp> mailga: Good question 13:34:11 <x3mboy> Yes, 237 supose to be mine 13:34:22 <mailga> bkp: I saw it unassigned. 13:34:49 <bkp> mailga: I see that too 13:35:00 <x3mboy> It's called issue in pagure 13:35:03 <bkp> x3mboy: Is your FAS the same as your IRC nick? 13:35:11 <x3mboy> bkm, Yes 13:35:16 <x3mboy> bkp, yes 13:35:32 <bkp> x3mboy: Got it. 13:35:35 <mailga> bkp: I can't assign it, I only can take it myself. 13:35:55 <bkp> #action Issue 237, will reassign to x3mboy ASAP 13:36:24 <bkp> That's it for open tickets 13:36:33 <bkp> #topic Upcoming Tasks 13:36:42 <bkp> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-marketing-tasks.html 13:36:51 <bkp> #info (1) Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks (from Tue 2016-09-06 to Thu 2016-09-08) 13:36:59 <bkp> #info (2) Tag Updated Bookmarks Package for Fedora 25 (due: Thu 2016-09-08) 13:37:05 <mailga> bkp: ok, I made it. Assigned to x3mboy 13:37:07 <bkp> #info (2) Tag Updated Bookmarks Package for Fedora 25 (due: Thu 2016-09-08) 13:37:18 <x3mboy> Cool 13:37:21 <bkp> mailga++ 13:37:42 <bkp> #info (3) Beta Freeze (Tue 2016-09-27, 00:00 UTC) 13:37:56 <bkp> Re: beta... 13:37:59 * mailga doesn't want cookies..... Money, please, lot of money! :-D 13:38:18 <bkp> #action bkp will create new ticket for beta announcement, per mailga suggestion 13:38:33 <mailga> bkp: too kind.... 13:39:03 <bkp> mailga, If only there was money to give. 13:39:11 <bkp> Or actual cookies! :) 13:39:20 <bkp> #topic Open Floor 13:39:40 <bkp> Okay, last section! Anyone got something to discuss? 13:41:11 <jflory7> .hello jflory7 13:41:12 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com> 13:41:19 <x3mboy> jflory7, o/ 13:41:23 <bkp> #chair jflory7 13:41:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkm_ bkp jflory7 mailga x3mboy 13:41:39 <jflory7> Hey all! 13:41:47 <bkp> jflory7: In open floor, got anything to throw into the dicussion? 13:41:51 * jflory7 is scrolling through really quick 13:42:38 <jflory7> Nothing stands out to me, only thing I can think of is that I think we should be able to be more on top of the beta announcement. 13:43:03 <bkp> jflory7: Can you elaborate "do more on top of"? 13:43:04 <jflory7> Alpha felt a little rushed, but I think a lot of the missing info from WGs / SIGs is appearing in the talking points page now. 13:43:14 <bkp> jflory7: aH 13:43:19 <jflory7> bkp: Yeah - I was bummed we didn't get a Magazine announcement out 13:43:27 <jflory7> I definitely want to do one for the beta 13:43:39 <jflory7> #idea Beta release announcement syndicated to the Fedora Magazine 13:43:49 <bkp> jflory7: Agreed. I wil commit to getting in front of that 13:43:56 <jflory7> \o/ 13:44:11 <x3mboy> Nothing from me 13:44:18 <bkp> Any other topics? 13:44:19 <jflory7> Other than that, nothing else from me either 13:44:28 <bkp> Okay, going once... 13:44:32 <jflory7> Thanks for chairing, bkp! bkp++ 13:44:35 <x3mboy> I'm just starting to move with pagure 13:44:42 <x3mboy> It looks nice 13:44:45 <bkp> x3mboy: Excellent 13:44:50 <jflory7> x3mboy++ 13:44:52 <bkp> It really does! 13:45:04 <bkp> np jflory7 13:45:13 <mailga> jflory7: the question is, tickets are called tickets or issues now? 13:45:28 <bkp> I have lots of issues 13:45:49 <jflory7> mailga: Hmm, guess it could go either way, I like tickets - not every ticket is an "issue" :) 13:45:55 <jflory7> bkp: lolol 13:46:29 <mailga> jflory7: issue is a proble, right? 13:46:39 <mailga> s/proble/problem 13:47:16 <bkp> I kind of like keeping "tickets" and "issues" seperate, like how GitHub/Lab seperates "Issues" and "Pull Requests" 13:47:45 <bkp> issue to me is an unsolved/unexamined problem 13:48:02 <bkp> ticket is a problem someone is actively working to correct 13:48:13 <bkp> (My two cents) 13:48:20 <mailga> bkp: also for me, and also for me. 13:48:24 <mailga> :-D 13:48:42 <mailga> or "for me also"? 13:49:17 <bkp> Which ever 13:49:31 <bkp> Anyone got a counter opinion/idea? 13:50:35 <x3mboy> For me is just a word. I work in spanish and in english, so i can have: tickets, issues, reportes, entradas, posts, problemas... 13:50:52 <bkp> #idea Continue to refer to actively pursued issues in Pagure as "tickets" until someone comes up with a better idea. 13:51:12 <x3mboy> If you now what is the meaning of the identifier, there is no issue about what work you use to talk about it 13:51:12 <bkp> Problemas sounds cooler 13:51:16 <mailga> bkp: +1 13:51:27 <bkp> x3mboy: Agreed 13:51:39 <bkp> Okay, if there is nothing else? 13:52:17 <bkp> Again, please except my apologies for the delay this morning with the workmen 13:52:43 <bkp> Meeting minutes will be up in a bit, after I get them really settled in. 13:52:47 <x3mboy> Social networks are managed with Marketing team? Or it's another team? 13:52:59 <bkp> x3mboy: This team. 13:53:09 <bkp> And I help a lot with that. What's up? 13:53:43 <x3mboy> bkp, I like that area, maybe i can help with something... 13:54:37 <x3mboy> bkp, we can talk later, you have a problema to solve in your house ;) 13:54:59 * mailga has to leave, thanks bkp for chairing! 13:55:31 <x3mboy> mailga, see you later 13:59:38 <bkp> Thanks all! x3mboy Let's chat on the mktg channel! 13:59:43 <bkp> #endmeeting