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#fedora-meeting: Fedora CommOps (2016-08-23)

Meeting started by jflory7 at 15:58:40 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Agenda (jflory7, 15:58:58)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-08-23 (jflory7, 15:59:01)
    2. (1) Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 15:59:05)
    3. (2) Announcements (jflory7, 15:59:09)
    4. (3) Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 15:59:16)
    5. (4) Tickets (jflory7, 15:59:20)
    6. (5) Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 15:59:26)
    7. (6) Community Blog (jflory7, 15:59:30)
    8. (7) Open Floor (jflory7, 15:59:34)

  2. Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 15:59:40)
    1. Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jflory7, 15:59:44)
    2. Sachin S. Kamath; UTC +5.30; GSoC, Metrics, CommOps (skamath, 16:00:06)
    3. Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; CommOps, Marketing / Magazine, Ambassadors, Diversity Team, Join SIG, and more (jflory7, 16:00:10)
    4. Michael Downey; UTC -7:00; CommOps, Marketing, also <3 for gsoc, docs, design, * (downey, 16:00:54)
    5. John M. Harris, Jr.; UTC-4; CommOps, Games SIG, Java SIG (JohnMH, 16:01:42)

  3. Announcements (skamath, 16:01:43)
    1. Wesley Otugo; GMT +1 (wesleyotugo, 16:01:43)
    2. === Fedora 25 Alpha Release: 2016-08-30 === (skamath, 16:01:49)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule (skamath, 16:02:04)
    4. The current targeted date for the Fedora 25 Alpha is for August 30, 2016. (skamath, 16:02:08)
    5. === "List of Flock blogs and more" === (skamath, 16:02:28)
    6. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/list-of-flock-blogs-and-more/ (skamath, 16:02:34)
    7. Brief overview of Flock 2016 with links to individual contributor blog posts and reports about the event. Good way to reflect / review on discussions and focuses from Flock or to see what happened if you were not able to attend. (skamath, 16:02:45)
    8. === "FOSS wave: Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India" === (skamath, 16:03:02)
    9. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/foss-wave-bhopal-madhya-pradesh-india/ (skamath, 16:03:13)
    10. Ongoing efforts to introduce FOSS, Fedora Quality Assurance, and testing to students across India. Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom) is helping lead these efforts. Watch for more information on the Community Blog in coming weeks! (skamath, 16:03:23)
    11. === REMINDER: Pagure migration, 2016-08-29 === (skamath, 16:03:33)
    12. Reminder that the migration from Trac to Pagure is targeted for Monday, August 29th, 2016. We will be abandoning Trac soon. More information to come. (skamath, 16:03:42)

  4. Action items from last meeting (skamath, 16:05:05)
    1. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/commops/commops.2016-08-16-15.59.html (skamath, 16:05:13)
    2. How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (skamath, 16:05:20)
    3. === [INCOMPLETE] downey Edit original UnixStickers shirt article to include links / mentions of the women's sizes / editions too === (skamath, 16:05:33)
    4. ACTION: downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into article (skamath, 16:06:37)
    5. === skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the mailman bug === (skamath, 16:06:44)
    6. https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/issues/399 (skamath, 16:07:18)
    7. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop === (skamath, 16:07:59)
    8. ACTION: jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop (skamath, 16:08:31)
    9. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics / etc.) === (skamath, 16:08:43)
    10. ACTION: jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics / etc.) (skamath, 16:08:51)
    11. === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog === (skamath, 16:09:09)
    12. ACTION: jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog (skamath, 16:09:21)
    13. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from workshop === (skamath, 16:09:35)
    14. ACTION: jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from workshop (skamath, 16:10:06)
    15. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now === (skamath, 16:10:29)
    16. ACTION: jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now (skamath, 16:10:38)
    17. === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting === (skamath, 16:11:38)
    18. ACTION: jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting (skamath, 16:11:45)
    19. === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Remove Ticket #10 from meeting agenda, collaborate with bee2502 on sorting through feedback / ideas from Flock === (skamath, 16:12:15)

  5. Tickets (skamath, 16:15:02)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/9 (skamath, 16:15:11)
    2. === Ticket #78 === (skamath, 16:15:18)
    3. "Automating a check-in to evaluate activity of members" (skamath, 16:15:23)
    4. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/78 (skamath, 16:15:29)
    5. AGREED: Due to lots of raw ideas and discussion from last week's meeting, would like to defer further discussion until there are more solid proposals to discuss / agree on (jflory7, 16:24:00)
    6. === Ticket #34 === (jflory7, 16:25:14)
    7. "[Onboarding Series] [MASTER TICKET] Creating sub-project on-boarding badge series" (jflory7, 16:25:19)
    8. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/34 (jflory7, 16:25:24)
    9. Last meeting, we agreed that next target group (outside of final follow-up on tickets awaiting badges) would be the Python SIG due to discussions that happened at the CommOps workshop at Flock 2016 (jflory7, 16:28:06)
    10. Background on the Python SIG: Around 20 members, handles reviewing Python packages in Fedora, deals with Python-specific technical decisions in Fedora, also sometimes handles security-critical issues with Python packages in Fedora (jflory7, 16:29:24)
    11. Noted at Flock that the on-boarding process for new members has difficulties: Unclear process for newcomers to follow, distinguishment between mailing lists (one public, one private for security bugs) unclear, need more items to be able to help guide newcomers to, sometimes there are "human" decisions that need to be made when reviewing new applicants (jflory7, 16:31:09)
    12. IDEA: Revamping wiki page / establishing numbered steps for newcomers to follow to become involved (jflory7, 16:31:49)
    13. IDEA: Making it clear what info is needed from newcomers for current members of the SIG to understand what newcomers are familiar with, interested in contributing towards, or able to do (jflory7, 16:32:17)
    14. IDEA: Coming up with creative solutions for how something that sometimes requires a subjective, "human" review process to follow general guidelines or points for evaluating newcomers (with context to revealing security bugs or issues) (jflory7, 16:33:21)
    15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python (jflory7, 16:35:26)
    16. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/ (jflory7, 16:35:41)
    17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/group::python-sig/ (jflory7, 16:35:53)
    18. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python/Members_list (jflory7, 16:36:17)
    19. http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/ (jflory7, 16:36:30)
    20. IDEA: Improving communication about Python SIG member list being on the wiki over a FAS group (and that's the official source for people involved with the Python SIG) (jflory7, 16:45:05)
    21. IDEA: An apprentice-esque type approach for newcomers to Python SIG??? (jflory7, 16:45:23)
    22. === Ticket #82 === (jflory7, 16:47:55)
    23. "Move CommOps toolbox to Pagure" (jflory7, 16:48:00)
    24. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/82 (jflory7, 16:48:04)
    25. ACTION: skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's knowledge, anyways ;) ) (jflory7, 16:54:00)
    26. ACTION: jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his tools in the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the CommOps group (jflory7, 16:54:46)

  6. Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 16:56:45)
    1. ACTION: commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ] (jflory7, 16:56:52)
    2. wikieditor FAS group: Group created not as a default "join to get access" kind of context, but more for edge cases where it's more plausible to add them to a standalone FAS group versus onboarding in a group (also might not have a FAS group). Example used was remixer who maintains a wiki page but nothing else. (jflory7, 17:03:20)

  7. Community Blog (jflory7, 17:05:40)
    1. How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go! (jflory7, 17:05:48)
    2. === This Week in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:05:53)
    3. (1) "FOSS wave: Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India" (jflory7, 17:05:58)
    4. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/foss-wave-bhopal-madhya-pradesh-india/ (jflory7, 17:06:04)
    5. Total Views (Aug. 18 - Aug. 22): 18 (jflory7, 17:06:10)
    6. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2096 (jflory7, 17:06:16)
    7. ACTION: jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave article for Bhopal (jflory7, 17:06:22)
    8. (2) "List of Flock blogs and more" (jflory7, 17:06:27)
    9. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/list-of-flock-blogs-and-more/ (jflory7, 17:06:31)
    10. Total Views (Aug. 18 - Aug. 22): 54 (jflory7, 17:06:36)
    11. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=2185 (jflory7, 17:06:41)
    12. === Coming Up in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:06:56)
    13. (1) "FOSS Wave: Delhi, India" - scheduled 2016-08-23 (jflory7, 17:07:03)
    14. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2145&preview=1&_ppp=143a11a08f (jflory7, 17:07:09)
    15. (2) "Fedora 24 Release Party in Singapore" - scheduled 2016-08-24 (jflory7, 17:07:15)
    16. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2010&preview=1&_ppp=1df831e1a4 (jflory7, 17:07:21)
    17. (3) "Modularity Infrastructure Design" - scheduled 2016-08-25 (jflory7, 17:07:33)
    18. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2154&preview=1&_ppp=7146c2ee3c (jflory7, 17:07:39)
    19. (4) "Say No to Wiki SPAM!" (jflory7, 17:07:45)
    20. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2208&preview=1&_ppp=1cf79eb584 (jflory7, 17:07:50)
    21. ACTION: jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current situation with FAS groups (jflory7, 17:08:01)
    22. (5) "Globalization improvements in Fedora 24" (jflory7, 17:08:07)
    23. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2212&preview=1&_ppp=005a502ebc (jflory7, 17:08:13)
    24. (6) "Modularity and Containers" (jflory7, 17:08:20)
    25. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2235&preview=1&_ppp=4da4ccff52 (jflory7, 17:08:25)
    26. (7) "What are Personas and Why Should you Care?" (jflory7, 17:08:30)
    27. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2230&preview=1&_ppp=33758937f3 (jflory7, 17:08:35)
    28. (8) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Alpha" (jflory7, 17:08:41)
    29. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2091&preview=1&_ppp=98aec2b146 (jflory7, 17:08:46)
    30. (9) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Beta" (jflory7, 17:08:56)
    31. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2142&preview=1&_ppp=405ee85506 (jflory7, 17:09:01)
    32. (10) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Final" (jflory7, 17:09:06)
    33. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2204&preview=1&_ppp=0c855ab7c8 (jflory7, 17:09:10)

  8. Open Floor (jflory7, 17:19:29)


Meeting ended at 17:24:01 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into article
  2. jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop
  3. jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics / etc.)
  4. jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
  5. jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from workshop
  6. jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
  7. jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
  8. skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's knowledge, anyways ;) )
  9. jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his tools in the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the CommOps group
  10. commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
  11. jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave article for Bhopal
  12. jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current situation with FAS groups


Action items, by person

  1. bee2502
    1. jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop
    2. jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics / etc.)
  2. commops
    1. commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
  3. downey
    1. downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into article
  4. jflory7
    1. downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into article
    2. jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop
    3. jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics / etc.)
    4. jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
    5. jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from workshop
    6. jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
    7. jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
    8. skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's knowledge, anyways ;) )
    9. jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his tools in the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the CommOps group
    10. jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave article for Bhopal
    11. jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current situation with FAS groups
  5. skamath
    1. skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's knowledge, anyways ;) )


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  2. skamath (103)
  3. zodbot (17)
  4. Guest_84847 (14)
  5. wesleyotugo (14)
  6. nirik (13)
  7. downey (12)
  8. JohnMH (7)
  9. pviktori (5)
  10. a2batic (2)
  11. cprofitt (2)
  12. bt0 (1)
  13. bee2502 (1)
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