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06:02:06 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:06 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-07-27
06:02:14 <mfabian>06:02:26 <epico> hi
06:02:31 <fujiwarat> hi
06:03:21 <pravins> #chair mfabian epico fujiwarat
06:03:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat mfabian pravins
06:03:27 <pravins> hi mfabian epico fujiwarat :)
06:03:32 <paragan> hi
06:03:40 <pravins> hi paragan :)
06:03:42 <pravins> #chair paragan
06:03:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat mfabian paragan pravins
06:03:47 <juhp> hi
06:03:52 <pravins> while other joins lets see upcoming schedule
06:03:57 <pravins> #chair juhp
06:03:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins
06:03:59 <pravins> hi juhp :)
06:04:01 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:04:02 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule
06:04:02 <pravins> #info 2016-07-26   Branch Fedora 25 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F26)
06:04:02 <pravins> #info 2016-07-26   Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
06:04:02 <pravins> #info 2016-08-09    Alpha Freeze (*)
06:04:02 <pravins> #info 2016-08-09    Software String Freeze
06:04:12 <pravins> Branching has been done yesterday
06:04:15 <juhp> yes
06:04:20 <pravins> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/LTJDDXZHLBVWTD54TVNEFISXRVK4HVIH/
06:04:31 <juhp> haven't seen a f25 tree yet though
06:04:48 * pravins checking
06:05:32 <pravins> i can see it for Lohit Devanagari :)
06:05:50 <pravins> Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline was yesterday
06:06:03 <pravins> Lets discuss change in F25 change planning ticket again.
06:06:23 <pravins> #topic #23: Flock 2016
06:06:47 <pravins> #link
06:06:49 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetup_Flock_2016
06:06:56 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/23
06:07:06 <pravins> Almost 11 members has registered already on page.
06:07:41 <pravins> I think we will have nice discussions there :)
06:07:59 <pravins> mfabian: juhp if you feel any more people we should include in this meetup, please ping them.
06:08:48 <pravins> I will ask flock-staff today to schedule g11n meetup on 3rd day - 3:30pm-5:30pm
06:09:22 <pravins> Also we are going to meet in G11N related talks as well :)
06:10:01 <pravins> On page its has been asked for meeting with Docs and Website team.
06:10:14 <pravins> So we must at least know them, that good to have some person from there team during meetup.
06:10:30 <pravins> #action Ping Docs and Website team for joining G11N meetup. Need there inputs.
06:11:11 <pravins> Our change proposal is definitely one topic to discus and also What will be there in F26?
06:11:16 <pravins> or plans..
06:11:42 <Satya> hi
06:12:02 <pravins> hi Satya :)
06:12:26 <pravins> #chair Satya
06:12:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: Satya epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins
06:12:30 <pravins> moving to next topic
06:12:37 <pravins> #info #63: Bug triaging activity post F24 Beta release (pravins)
06:12:37 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/63
06:12:56 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FLTG/F24_I18N_Bug_Triaging
06:13:15 <pravins> Satya: so page is ready, we need to create 5bugs slot, so more people can participate in bug triaging
06:13:24 <pravins> it is good chance to get involvement from new people.
06:13:49 <pravins> Meanwhile, around 42 bugs has need auto closed due to F22 EOL
06:14:08 <pravins> so while preparing for BUGs we need to check email on i18n-bugs list for those auto closed bugs
06:14:46 <pravins> As of now 53 bugs need triaging.
06:15:48 <pravins> Satya: since, next will be flock and most people will be not available
06:15:51 <Satya> pravins, sure, thanks for the update, I will slot those.
06:15:54 <pravins> i think we should rethink on date.
06:16:05 <Satya> o yeah, correct!
06:16:06 <pravins> post flock make sense.
06:16:10 <pravins> 2-5 flock
06:16:31 <pravins> Meanwhile, if someone can create slots for bugs that will be very helpful.
06:16:46 <Satya> i will create the slots in the mean time
06:16:48 <pravins> Satya: should i add action item for you?
06:16:52 <pravins> great, thanks :)
06:16:54 <Satya> sure!
06:16:56 <Satya> please go ahead
06:17:07 <pravins> #action Satya will create bug-slots for Bug triaging day.
06:17:17 <pravins> #info #36: Disabling/blacklisting Indic XKB keyboard layouts in Gnome (mfabian)
06:17:17 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36
06:17:35 <pravins> #topic #36: Disabling/blacklisting Indic XKB keyboard layouts in Gnome
06:17:51 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36
06:18:43 <pravins> hmm, still no improvement on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96418
06:18:49 <pravins> adding action for mfabian :)
06:19:05 <pravins> #action mfabian to ping Peter for #36 ticket
06:20:05 <pravins> #topic #65: Fedora 22 EOL issues (pravins)
06:20:06 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/65
06:20:28 <mfabian> ␆://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36
06:20:28 <mfabian> <pravins> #topic #36: Disabling/blacklisting Indic XKB keyboard layouts in Gnome
06:20:29 <mfabian> [16年07月27日 08:17:35]
06:20:29 <mfabian> *** zodbot (supybot@fedora/bot/zodbot) has set the topic for #fedora-meeting:
06:20:32 <mfabian> "#36: Disabling/blacklisting Indic XKB keyboard layouts in Gnome (Meeting
06:20:35 <mfabian> topic: i18n)"
06:20:38 <mfabian> <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36 [16年07月27日 08:17:51]
06:20:42 <mfabian> <pravins> hmm, still no improvement on
06:20:45 <mfabian> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96418
06:20:48 <mfabian> [16年07月27日 08:18:43]
06:20:51 <mfabian> <pravins> adding action for mfabian :) [16年07月27日 08:18:49]
06:20:51 <mfabian> <pravins> #action mfabian to ping Peter for #36 ticket [16年07月27日 08:19:05]
06:20:54 <mfabian> <pravins> #topic #65: Fedora 22 EOL issues (pravins) [16年07月27日 08:20:05]
06:20:58 <mfabian> *** zodbot (supybot@fedora/bot/zodbot) has set the topic for #fedora-meeting:
06:21:01 <mfabian> "#65: Fedora 22 EOL issues (pravins) (Meeting topic: i18n)"
06:21:05 <mfabian> [16年07月27日 08:20:06]
06:21:09 <mfabian> <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/65
06:21:12 <mfabian> ERC>  👌
06:21:37 <pravins> :)
06:22:21 <pravins> I will close this ticket now. EOL F22
06:22:44 <juhp> we don't need it for the bug triage?
06:22:45 <pravins> may be in bug triaging activity, we will once again go through auto closed bug and see if anything there to do.
06:22:56 <jflory7> ! (has something to mention at open floor, if someone might ping me then)
06:23:13 <pravins> juhp: i mean Fedora 22 EOL issues
06:23:16 <pravins> jflory7: sure :)
06:23:41 <juhp> right
06:23:57 <pravins> for bug triaging day, there is different ticket.
06:24:02 <juhp> ah sorry
06:24:44 <pravins> np :)
06:24:47 <pravins> moving to next ticket
06:24:48 <pravins> #topic #66: F25 Documentation beat (pravins)
06:24:48 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/66
06:24:54 <juhp> (okay - seems like a duplicate then?)
06:25:34 <pravins> In triage activity we are also planning to move F23 bugs.
06:25:45 <juhp> I see
06:25:47 <pravins> Since, dont want these bugs again get closed auto for next release.
06:25:47 <pravins> https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/63
06:25:58 <juhp> okay good
06:26:09 <pravins> somehow we missed bus and F22 bugs got auto closed ;(
06:26:17 <pravins> coming to Docs
06:26:29 <juhp> yeah we should all be periodically reviewing our bugs move them to the latest affected release
06:26:36 <pravins> +1
06:26:44 <pravins> from previous experience, we are not doing good at documentation part.
06:27:00 <pravins> I think we should do more collaboration with Fedora Docs team. At least for our proposed feature side.
06:27:09 <pravins> may be good topic to talk with Docs during flock
06:27:15 <juhp> aha
06:27:33 <pravins> #idea Talk with Docs member regarding improving feature/change proposal page information.
06:28:12 <pravins> juhp: we are not taking much help from docs. I dunno what is process there but it should happen
06:29:26 <juhp> I see yeah
06:29:53 <juhp> good to ask them though I am not sure how much they can help
06:29:55 <pravins> Anyway, we are going to ask Doc people join for Trans stuff, so we can ping them on this as well.
06:30:12 <juhp> yes
06:30:24 <pravins> and here we are coming again to F25 planning :)
06:30:24 <pravins> #info #64: Fedora 25 planning (pravins)
06:30:25 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/64
06:30:47 <pravins> Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline date was yesterday, just wondering if anything remaining
06:30:56 <pravins> #info Unicode 9.0 already in rawhide
06:31:14 <pravins> mfabian: sorry, again asking for Multilingual Typing booster :)
06:31:26 <pravins> may be we should move ahead with documentation stuff.
06:31:34 <pravins> like what is available presently.
06:31:57 <mfabian> pravins: I wrote a comment for Multilingual Typing booster into the wiki.
06:32:26 <mfabian> It works already, only the setup UI is not good.
06:32:39 <pravins> that is fine :)
06:32:45 <pravins> mfabian: may be some screenshot, if you can make.
06:32:59 <pravins> will be more good.
06:33:10 <pravins> fujiwarat: Do we need more time for Emoji?
06:33:10 <mfabian> Yes, I should add a screenshot to the documentation page on github.
06:33:16 <pravins> right
06:33:38 <pravins> mfabian: nice, this looks already good https://mike-fabian.github.io/ibus-typing-booster/documentation.html#multilingual-input :)
06:34:24 <fujiwarat> pravins: ?
06:34:51 <pravins> aha, i see Fixed In Version: ibus-1.5.13-5.fc25
06:35:10 <pravins> fujiwarat: just asking, do we have any test package available :)
06:35:53 <fujiwarat> pravins: yes
06:36:04 <pravins> #info Unicode 9.0, Emoji typing and Multi-lingual are available to test.
06:36:18 <pravins> I was talking with Sundeep yesterday and he is planning to move Transdiff for F26
06:36:36 <pravins> #info Planning to move Transdiff to F26
06:36:44 <pravins> thanks all for updating bugzilla :)
06:36:47 <pravins> moving to last topic
06:36:52 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:36:57 <pravins> ping jflory7
06:37:03 <pravins> any other things to discuss?
06:37:17 <jflory7> Hi :) I had a short question–
06:37:27 <pravins> sure
06:37:58 <suanand> (hi, sorry)
06:38:08 <pravins> suanand: no problem, meeting is still on ;)
06:38:25 <jflory7> I'm not sure if someone else has already asked here from Infrastructure, but has G11n / I18n thought about porting their Trac over to Pagure in the near future? In the coming year or next, fedorahosted.org is going to be sunset and projects are recommended to move to Pagure.
06:38:26 <suanand> may be align Transdiff with f26 :)
06:38:45 <jflory7> There is an importer tool available to move existing tickets from Trac to Pagure, but it's waiting on last major feature, support for attachments.
06:38:52 <jflory7> Was just wondering if it was anyone's radar yet here.
06:39:09 <paragan> jflory7, thanks for informing us here
06:39:24 <paragan> we will definitely look into this in upcoming days
06:39:30 <juhp> jflory7: thanks for sharing - good to know
06:39:36 <jflory7> Sure thing, no problem!
06:39:39 <jflory7> Here is the importer: https://pagure.io/pagure-importer
06:39:45 <jflory7> Relevant issue, #15, for attachment support
06:40:03 <juhp> jflory7: it works even if no git repo?
06:40:36 <jflory7> juhp: For Trac, I believe so, but I'd need to follow up to be sure. I know CommOps and Marketing will be moving our Tracs to Pagure for tickets once attachment support is there.
06:40:44 <jflory7> I'm inclined to say yes, though
06:40:55 <juhp> cool
06:41:18 <pravins> jflory7: thanks for ping. We must plan this soon.
06:41:28 <pravins> So basically we need to move G11N and I18N trac
06:41:36 <pravins> anyone would like to help here?
06:41:45 <paragan> I can help :)
06:41:51 <jflory7> pravins: No problem, happy to help!
06:41:51 <pravins> great, thanks paragan :)
06:42:07 <paragan> I have already moved s-c-l and iok projects to Pagure
06:42:14 <paragan> others are in queue ;-)
06:42:16 <jflory7> paragan++
06:42:16 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for pnemade changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:42:22 <pravins> jflory7: will ping you if any help required.
06:42:24 <paragan> jflory7++
06:42:24 <zodbot> paragan: Karma for jflory7 changed to 26 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:42:46 <pravins> it also reminds me i need to move lohit, liberation, ibus-rawcode, ibus-sayura to pagure
06:43:02 <pravins> #action paragan helping to move G11N and I18N trac to pagure
06:43:06 <pravins> jflory7++
06:43:06 <zodbot> pravins: Karma for jflory7 changed to 27 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:43:23 <juhp> jflory7: was there some announcement btw?
06:43:33 <pravins> jflory7: since you are here, i have already created article in Fedora Magazine
06:43:37 <jflory7> Whoo, cookies!
06:43:53 <juhp> yummy :)
06:44:01 <pravins> lol :)
06:44:03 <jflory7> juhp: I think it was on the Infrastructure list... it was a while back, but I don't know if it was well-communicated. I found out about it when a member on Infra pinged me in another meeting.
06:44:14 <juhp> jflory7: I see thanks
06:44:26 <pravins> jflory7: is there any public link to share with team?
06:44:30 <juhp> dunno if we have any attachments...
06:44:31 <jflory7> pravins: Yep, I missed your email on the Marketing list! Replied a few minutes ago. Unless another editors tackles it first, we'll review it at our meeting on Thursday.
06:44:44 <jflory7> pravins: For the announcement? I'm sure I can dig for the link. One sec...
06:44:53 <pravins> jflory7: i mean for Magazine article
06:45:01 <jflory7> Oh! Yeah, I can get that one too :)
06:45:04 <pravins> so, i can take some review from team members as well.
06:45:17 <pravins> feel free to post it on g11n list :)
06:45:52 <jflory7> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13838&preview=1&_ppp=95a1482538
06:45:59 <jflory7> Anyone should be able to view it from that link.
06:46:23 <pravins> nice.
06:46:31 <pravins> Will share it with others
06:47:02 <pravins> any other topic, before we close the meeting?
06:48:06 <pravins> lets wait for 2 minutes before we close the meeting
06:50:13 <pravins> thanks everyone for meeting :)
06:50:17 <pravins> #endmeeting