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01:00:03 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 15 01:00:03 2016 UTC.  The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:15 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:25 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:00:35 <juggler_> o/ Perry
01:00:43 <award3535> #chair jsandys juggler_
01:00:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler_
01:00:45 <jsandys> Jeff is here
01:01:03 <juggler_> hey jeff, award
01:01:13 <award3535> evening jsandys juggler_
01:01:16 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
01:01:17 * kk4ewt 
01:01:18 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
01:01:29 <award3535> #chair jflory7 kk4ewt
01:01:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler_ kk4ewt
01:01:37 <jflory7> Evening, all!
01:01:54 <award3535> #chair juggler
01:01:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler juggler_ kk4ewt
01:01:57 <juggler> evening all
01:02:51 <award3535> evening reher
01:03:41 <mikedep333> evening all
01:03:52 <award3535> #chair mikedep333
01:03:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler juggler_ kk4ewt mikedep333
01:03:56 * ParadoxGuitarist is here.
01:04:02 <award3535> #chair ParadoxGuitarist
01:04:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler juggler_ kk4ewt mikedep333
01:04:03 <reher> Hi award3535! Hey, I will be sending you an email sometime tonight with some questions. Hope that's ok.
01:04:16 <award3535> reher no problem
01:04:51 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:05:04 <award3535> jflory7 I know you must have something
01:05:20 <jflory7> Yep, I have four!
01:05:25 <award3535> go
01:05:29 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora 24 Release Party: SFVLUG Event Report" ===
01:05:33 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-24-party-sfvlug-event-report/
01:06:02 <jflory7> #info FAmNA Ambassador juggler published his event report with his LUG celebrating the release of Fedora 24. Read what happened and feedback from the event in the full report.
01:06:11 <jflory7> #info === "Southeast Linux Fest (SELF) 2016" ===
01:06:16 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/southeast-linux-fest-self-2016/
01:06:33 <jflory7> #info The Southeast Linux Fest (SELF) is an annual Linux conference in the southeast region of the United States. The Fedora Ambassadors of North America attended this event as representatives of the project. Learn more in award3535's event report.
01:06:39 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora Elections July 2016 - Campaign period has started" ===
01:06:44 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Z5VUZ2BR4TN25QQJDPUEHUSNBGNC3QPS/
01:06:50 <jflory7> #info The Nomination period of Elections to Council and FESCo is now over. Nominees can now start with their own campaign, to attract people in the Fedora community. Like last time, all interviews will be published on the Community Blog.
01:06:55 <jflory7> #info === "You’re invited: FOSCo Brainstorm Meeting, 2016-07-18, 13:00 UTC" ===
01:07:01 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fosco-brainstorm-meeting-2016-07-18/
01:07:01 * juggler is coughing and needs to get water and will be right back momentarily
01:07:06 <jflory7> #info For some time now, Fedora has discussed the idea of the Fedora Outreach Steering Committee (FOSCo), a body to coordinate all our outreach efforts. Now it’s time to make it happen! On behalf of FAmSCo and the Fedora Council, we would like to invite the Fedora community to an all-hands on July 18th, 2016, at 13:00 UTC in #fedora-council.
01:07:09 <jflory7> eof
01:08:45 <ParadoxGuitarist> You're so concise jflory7.
01:09:08 <award3535> juggler gets kudos, well written and formatted report!
01:09:13 <jflory7> I try to be. :)
01:09:19 <jflory7> juggler++ and award3535++ for both reports!
01:09:46 <juggler> jflory7 helped with some of the tricky formatting and headline clipart :)
01:09:58 <award3535> any other announcements before moving on
01:10:00 <juggler> thank you award3535 for the comps
01:10:13 <juggler> ty jflory7
01:10:26 <jflory7> juggler: Gladly!
01:10:29 <jflory7> Nothing from me.
01:10:55 <ParadoxGuitarist> I have one
01:10:55 <award3535> juggler your last event report was also professional and informative
01:11:06 <award3535> from scale that is
01:11:15 <award3535> ok moving on
01:11:18 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:11:19 <juggler> really? thank you! :)
01:11:30 <jflory7> award3535: Oh, I think ParadoxGuitarist had something
01:11:57 <award3535> ParadoxGuitarist ......
01:11:58 <ParadoxGuitarist> Did everyone see jflory7's email about design tickets?
01:12:04 <juggler> big hope is that the feedback from our local constituency will be useful to upstream dev..
01:12:14 <jflory7> ParadoxGuitarist: Oh, yeah, I forgot the obvious one...
01:12:21 <jflory7> That is worth going back to
01:12:33 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:12:43 <ParadoxGuitarist> #info Design Ticket Policy and Info.
01:12:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Design
01:13:29 <jflory7> paradoxguitarist++ for bringing this up.
01:13:31 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for paradoxguitarist changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
01:13:37 <juggler> btw, thanks also to Paradox for swag support. hear, hear!
01:14:03 <ParadoxGuitarist> glad you were able to put it to good use juggler++
01:14:03 <zodbot> ParadoxGuitarist: Karma for juggler changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
01:14:13 <jflory7> Anyone wanting to request artwork assets or items for events should read those guidelines.
01:14:35 <jflory7> It details the steps and procedure for requesting custom artwork that we might need for any given thing, e.g. a new tablecloth / new media sleeves / etc.
01:14:53 <jflory7> It will help make sure responses are faster and deadlines aren't missed when the guidelines are followed. :)
01:14:55 <juggler> PG: they freaked out (in a good way) at the mention of swag
01:14:56 <jflory7> eof
01:15:21 <award3535> TY ParadoxGuitarist and jflory7
01:15:24 <award3535> moving on
01:15:27 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:15:38 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:16:20 <award3535> .famnaticket 153
01:16:21 <zodbot> award3535: #153 (SeaGL 2016 Sponsorship) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/153
01:16:32 <award3535> I am going in reverse tonigh
01:16:34 <award3535> t
01:16:45 <award3535> jsandys this is your event
01:17:03 <jsandys> SeaGL lowests sponsorship, Bronze, is $1000, but they offer an upgrade to those who donated in the past.
01:17:14 <jsandys> Fedora sponsored for $500 in 2014, and SeaGL offers free tables to non-profits and community groups.
01:17:28 <jsandys> I propose offering $500 for a "Bronze" table, and budget an additional $500 for swag, banners  and travel.
01:17:52 <award3535> so a total of 1K
01:18:40 <jsandys> I would like a technical person present so I added travel for ???
01:18:48 <jflory7> And our current remaining budget with current expenses calculated is ~$7k, right?
01:19:12 <award3535> I would suggest giving yourself a little wiggle room and go to 1.5K for approval purposes and that will give you some room for unfortunate problems
01:19:17 <kk4ewt> well lets cover our butts in case 2K
01:19:17 <juggler> ??? is a really awesome person
01:19:54 <award3535> budget remaining is $6,470.00
01:20:04 <jsandys> David Gay is local and Adam (QA) is in Vancouver BC
01:20:29 <award3535> If we vote for 2K and only spend 1.1K the numbers will be adjusted.
01:20:42 <jflory7> This is out in November too, so it's fairly distributed from other events happening in the timeline.
01:20:53 <mikedep333> didn't David Gay become unresponsive about a year ago?
01:21:19 <juggler> hey mike!
01:21:29 <mikedep333> 7/25/15 email: "Non-responsive procedure for David Gay
01:21:29 <mikedep333> "
01:21:34 <jsandys> The event only had 300 registered last year but attendance was higher.
01:21:36 <mikedep333> hey juggler
01:22:15 <jsandys> David's wife had cancer last year, I haven't contacted him yet.
01:22:32 <award3535> did everyone see kk4ewt's comment
01:22:47 <ParadoxGuitarist> Clint Savage might be interested, he's in Salt Lake iirc
01:22:49 <mikedep333> gotcha, sorry to hear about that
01:22:52 <juggler> award the 2K comment?
01:22:53 <jflory7> I would be +1 with allocating $2000 for the time being
01:23:14 <jflory7> With the intention to shoot for being more under budget than close to the dot
01:23:50 <juggler> may I ask kk4ewt and award's recommendation on this?
01:23:51 <award3535> jsandys also keep in mind my purchase limit of >1K, so if the booth does cost 1K, you will have to start the PO with jzb
01:24:39 <award3535> the proposal is to set the upper limit for this event at 2K to ensure we do not run into problems
01:25:15 <jsandys> I'll try to sell the $500 booth and counter with a request for a free community booth.
01:25:30 <juggler> +1 concurrence with award3535 and jflory7
01:25:37 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:25:38 <award3535> kk4ewt suggests allocation of $2, 000.00 for this event to cover ourselves
01:25:55 <award3535> +1 2K
01:26:00 <kk4ewt> +1
01:26:08 <juggler> +1 2K (for clarification)
01:26:31 <award3535> need one more vote....
01:26:38 <jsandys> +1
01:26:53 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:27:17 <award3535> #agreed $2,000.00 (2K) for SeaGL 2016
01:27:37 <award3535> jsandys please update the ticket with the status of agreed budget
01:27:52 <jsandys> Are there any more Fedora loves Python shirts and materials available?  I would lie to feature Python and developers for the booth.
01:27:55 * juggler will brb in abt 2m
01:28:06 <mikedep333> I need to go to bed, later.
01:28:11 <jsandys> I was a founding member of SeaPIG
01:28:47 <award3535> jsandys you may want to check with nb
01:29:00 <jflory7> Good night, mikedep333!
01:29:14 <jsandys> Thanks
01:29:24 <award3535> .famnaticket 151
01:29:26 <zodbot> award3535: #151 (FOSSCON 2016 EVENT APPROVAL) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/151
01:29:42 <award3535> jflory7 any updates on this ticket
01:30:10 * juggler is back
01:30:13 <jflory7> Yes–
01:30:45 <ParadoxGuitarist> jsandys:  FYI on the shirts, I've never had any since taking over for west cast shipping.
01:30:47 <nb> Hi
01:30:56 <linuxmodder> .hello linuxmodder
01:30:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> it's an nb!
01:30:57 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
01:30:59 <jflory7> So at the end of last meeting, cprofitt confirmed he would be able to make the event and also carpool with me. We calculated gas prices and estimated on the higher end of $65 in case prices rise. The wiki has the most current numbers reflected for estimated costs.
01:31:01 <linuxmodder> sorry for delay
01:31:06 <award3535> #chaid nb linuxmodder
01:31:08 <nb> jsandys, the python stuff was never sent to any of our shippers
01:31:20 <award3535> #chair nb linuxmodder
01:31:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler juggler_ kk4ewt linuxmodder mikedep333 nb
01:31:23 <jflory7> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HACKMIT/2016#Event_Budget
01:31:35 <jflory7> #info HACKMIT estimated final cost: ~$431.00
01:31:38 <nb> i think decause had it
01:31:47 <jflory7> #info HACKMIT approved budget (2016-06-30): $750.00
01:32:38 <award3535> jflory7 good work, just remember that I will need copies of receipts to add to the budget sheet
01:32:45 <kk4ewt> ok i am confused are we talking Fosscon or  hackmot?
01:32:47 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  I may be able to swing by  for seagl
01:32:52 * linuxmodder reading scrollback
01:33:03 <jflory7> Acknowledged, we will definitely make sure to have them.
01:33:03 <award3535> kk4ewt I am working in reverse tonight
01:33:27 <award3535> oops youre right
01:33:28 <jflory7> Oh, whoops, I see the ticket was FOSSCON - not sure if you meant HACKMIT or linuxmodder for FOSSCON
01:33:34 <award3535> its the Fosscon
01:33:45 <jflory7> Well, that's all I had for HACKMIT anyways
01:33:46 <linuxmodder> wait what now?
01:33:49 <nb> .ping
01:33:50 <zodbot> pong
01:33:51 <jflory7> No further updates on it at this time
01:34:15 <award3535> linuxmodder this one is yours, anyupdates or changes this week
01:34:18 <jsandys> ??? == linuxmodder
01:34:22 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  no updates on hackmit?
01:34:28 <linuxmodder> award3535,  no changes
01:34:35 <jflory7> kk4ewt: Nothing more than what I just said.
01:34:35 <award3535> ok, TY
01:34:45 <jflory7> cprofitt and I finalized estimated costs on travel.
01:34:53 <linuxmodder> still looking into  a stream form booth with organizers
01:35:01 <award3535> .famnaticket 140
01:35:02 <zodbot> award3535: #140 (Ordering new stickers for the region) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/140
01:35:14 <deadrat> ....................
01:35:17 <deadrat> sorry
01:35:23 <jsandys> Re: Unixstickers. They shouldn't charge value added tax (VAT 22%) on orders shipped to the U.S. (they charged me on my last order)
01:35:25 <award3535> as stated above, updates listed for Hackmit
01:36:24 <jflory7> For our order, they confirmed a definite, final price of $950.
01:36:32 <award3535> stickers will be ordered when the Meeting card has been paid for this month, then I will get ahold of jflory7 to send me the contact info
01:36:45 <jflory7> Sounds good to me.
01:36:49 <nb> the python stuff was done by decause not by FAmNA
01:36:51 <nb> jflory7, have the stickers been ordered?
01:37:02 <jflory7> nb: Have not, but the order is ready pending a credit card.
01:37:06 <award3535> card should paid in the next couple of days
01:37:27 <award3535> nb once the meeting card has been paid I will put the order in
01:37:41 <nb> ok
01:38:21 <award3535> I only get a 3K limit on the card, so paying for booths adds up quickly
01:39:03 <nb> ParadoxGuitarist, need your address for media
01:39:20 <linuxmodder> nb,  you have mine correct?
01:39:23 <nb> #info the Purchase Order for F24 media is created, I sent the art and master, got proof for art, design team approved it
01:39:24 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'll email it to you
01:39:24 <kk4ewt> nb remember to send some to canada
01:39:26 <nb> linuxmodder, for what?
01:39:37 <linuxmodder> nvm
01:39:44 <nb> linuxmodder, your region's shipper should fulfill any requests from you for media
01:39:47 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  i have yours
01:39:53 <linuxmodder> kk
01:39:55 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:39:58 <nb> you are CA right?
01:40:10 <nb> kk4ewt, you are same address as always?
01:40:17 <linuxmodder> nb, native yes but  about  4  hours north of  kk4ewt
01:40:23 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  in in VA
01:40:34 <nb> linuxmodder, oh, i was on the wrong side of the country then :)
01:40:38 <nb> kk4ewt, will send you media
01:40:47 <kk4ewt> nb yes my office
01:40:58 <nb> ok
01:41:11 <ParadoxGuitarist> nb: I am
01:41:17 <nb> jflory7, can unixstickers ship to 3 addresses? or do they need to send them all to one place
01:41:35 <jflory7> Hmmm, not sure, but we can ask. I think that will probably increase price, though.
01:42:03 <nb> jflory7, if it would cause price to increase, then we can have them shipped to one of us, and we can ship them to the others
01:42:16 <nb> but if they will ship to 3 addresses, would be nice
01:42:18 <kk4ewt> nb he stated earlier one location
01:42:28 <nb> oh ok
01:42:43 <kk4ewt> me you or andrew
01:42:49 <kk4ewt> i think would be good
01:43:13 <kk4ewt> or whomever is closer to point of orgin
01:43:15 <juggler> award...could you facilitate ticket 416 (the reimbursement) at your earliest convenience?
01:43:18 <award3535> we can distribute from the person who received them, much cheeper
01:43:43 <award3535> juggler will do, I should get to it in the morning
01:43:54 <juggler> award thank you!
01:43:55 <nb> jflory7, is shipping included in the price?
01:44:30 <jflory7> nb: Shipping is included. I wasn't given a definite number on how much shipping was, but I think they're making sure the final price stays at $950 for the single order
01:44:38 <jflory7> If I recall, it comes from Italy or somewhere in Europe
01:44:39 <nb> oh ok
01:44:49 <nb> jflory7, probably best to have them shipped to me since i'm in the middle of country
01:44:56 <nb> and i can forward 1/3 to ParadoxGuitarist and 1/3 to kk4ewt
01:45:06 <juggler> no other open floor from me here. I hope people get the chance to read our F24 release party report when they have a free moment.
01:45:06 <nb> rather than havethem shipped to one of the coasts and spending more in shipping
01:45:51 <kk4ewt> nb what happened to the swag ticket for canada?
01:46:16 <jflory7> nb: Sounds good, once the card is cleared, we can arrange the details with award3535.
01:46:17 <nb> kk4ewt, i need to box up stuff and take to post office and figure out what forms to fill out
01:46:41 <kk4ewt> nb i am not seeing the ticket which was filed
01:46:48 <nb> oh, not sure then
01:46:50 <award3535> post office customs form, done that many times
01:46:52 * nb has not closed it
01:47:02 <jflory7> Shipping to Canada is pretty easy, there's just a custom declaration form I have to fill out for my packages
01:47:21 <award3535> kk4ewt I may have closed it
01:47:39 <kk4ewt> i am not even seeing it as closed
01:48:08 <ParadoxGuitarist> I don't have anything else
01:49:12 * ParadoxGuitarist is going to set away. son got home and he's crying.
01:49:18 <ParadoxGuitarist> good meeting all
01:49:27 <juggler> night Paradox. thanks again!!
01:49:27 <linuxmodder> ParadoxGuitarist,  that sucks see you around
01:49:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> award3535++ as always thanks for the leadership
01:49:39 <zodbot> ParadoxGuitarist: Karma for award3535 changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
01:50:01 <kk4ewt> https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ticket/408
01:50:03 <nb> award3535++
01:50:03 <zodbot> nb: Karma for award3535 changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
01:50:21 <kk4ewt> there it is, it  helps to look under the correct trac
01:50:53 <juggler> award3535++
01:50:54 <zodbot> juggler: Karma for award3535 changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
01:51:23 <kk4ewt> hopefully next week we will be seeing updated 24 respins
01:52:00 <award3535> so I didnt close it, whew......
01:52:17 <juggler> whom may I contact to find out if F24 containers exist?
01:52:34 <kk4ewt> #fedora-cloud
01:52:35 <juggler> I would imagine by this point, they probably do..
01:52:43 <juggler> thanks
01:53:55 <juggler> gotta motor to my next meeting. great seeing everyone again.
01:54:15 <juggler> good localtime all.
01:55:34 <award3535> have a good evening ParadoxGuitarist
01:55:48 <nb> award3535, hey, did you get a copy of the media PO from jmadriaga?
01:55:56 <kk4ewt> ok lets close this puppy,its my anniversry
01:56:04 <linuxmodder> lol
01:56:06 <juggler> happy anniv kk4ewt
01:56:08 <award3535> happy aniversary.....
01:56:15 <linuxmodder> kk4ewt,  tend to the anniversary then
01:56:16 <award3535> nb I did not
01:57:27 <nb> #info Happy Anniversary jbwillia (kk4ewt) and cewillia
01:57:51 <award3535> nb it is important that I do get it, I add everything to the spreadsheet
01:58:06 <nb> award3535, yeah, i will forward it to you
01:58:16 * nb wanted to make sure you got it
01:58:27 <award3535> TY nb
01:58:51 <nb> award3535, i sent it to award3535@fpo
01:58:54 <award3535> ok, seems like we are done for tonight....
01:59:01 <jflory7> juggler: See ya, night!
01:59:22 <award3535> jflory7 will you be able to chair next week?
01:59:22 <jflory7> Happy anniversary, kk4ewt!
01:59:35 <jflory7> award3535: July 21st, I would be able to.
01:59:39 <award3535> nb got it....
01:59:56 <juggler> thx jf7
02:00:08 <juggler> jf7: goodnight as well
02:00:09 <award3535> Ty jflory7, I am taking my grandkids to disney next week
02:00:16 <jflory7> Ahh, that'll be fun!
02:00:26 <kk4ewt> again?
02:00:31 <juggler> award awesome
02:00:46 <kk4ewt> we may be in orlando in Aug 20th
02:01:03 <award3535> kk4ewt let me know we will meet you there
02:01:04 <jflory7> I'll mark it in my calendar to chair next week.
02:01:06 <kk4ewt> no disney
02:01:21 <juggler> aww
02:01:21 <reher> award3535, speaking of Orlando,  do you know if there will be a Fossetcon this year?
02:01:24 <award3535> thats ok, we know orlando quite well
02:01:33 <jflory7> I believe I remember seeing Fossetcon as canceled
02:01:51 <award3535> reher from what I know it has been switched to every two years now
02:01:56 * juggler is away
02:02:08 <award3535> good night all
02:02:11 <award3535> #endmeeting