06:00:41 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
06:00:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 22 06:00:41 2016 UTC.  The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:00:41 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:00:41 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:42 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-06-22
06:00:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:49 <pravins> Who else available for meeting today?
06:00:52 <tagoh_> hi
06:01:15 <pravins> hi tagoh_ :)
06:01:18 <pravins> #chair tagoh_
06:01:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: pravins tagoh_
06:01:25 <paragan> hi
06:01:27 <suanand> hi
06:01:30 <mfabian> Hi!
06:01:40 <pravins> hi paragan suanand mfabian :)
06:01:44 <Satya> hi
06:01:47 <pravins> #chair paragan suanand mfabian
06:01:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:02:15 <pravins> Ok, we have 5 members already, lets proceed
06:02:51 <pravins> Fedora 24 released yesterday. Congratulations to all for great efforts to make it successful.
06:02:54 <pravins> !!
06:03:42 <pravins> #info Fedora 24 is here with GNOME 3.20 -- download the open source Linux distro now
06:03:43 <pravins> #link http://betanews.com/2016/06/21/fedora-24-linux-gnome-download/
06:04:28 <pravins> #info Fedora 24 shows off new visions of the Linux desktop, cloud, and containers
06:04:30 <pravins> #link http://www.zdnet.com/article/fedora-24-shows-off-new-visions-of-the-linux-desktop-cloud-and-containers/
06:05:19 <pravins> #info Fedora 24 arrives with GNOME 3.20 and under-the-hood improvements
06:05:26 <pravins> #link http://www.pcworld.com/article/3085143/linux/fedora-24-arrives-with-gnome-3-20-and-under-the-hood-improvements.html
06:06:14 <pravins> #info Fedora 24 Linux Distribution Officially Released, Available for Download Now
06:06:16 <pravins> #link https://www.linux.com/news/fedora-24-linux-distribution-officially-released-available-download-now
06:06:33 <pravins> and more important Fedora Magazine link :)
06:06:49 <pravins> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-released/
06:07:07 <pravins> hi Satya :)
06:07:09 <epico> hi
06:07:10 <pravins> #chair Satya
06:07:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: Satya mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:07:23 <pravins> hi epico :)
06:07:27 <pravins> #chair epico
06:07:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: Satya epico mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:07:38 <paragan> Congrats to all of us for a great F24 release :)
06:07:50 <pravins> paragan++
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06:08:18 <paragan> juhp++ pravins++ tagoh_++
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06:08:52 <fujiwarat> hi
06:08:53 <pravins> No party schedule yet :( Let me know if anyone of you planning some kind party.
06:09:06 <pravins> We can try for funding from Fedora.
06:09:10 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
06:09:14 <pravins> #chair fujiwarat
06:09:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Satya epico fujiwarat mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:09:35 <paragan> epico++ fujiwarat++ mfabian++ suanand++ tagoh++
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06:09:49 <paragan> :)
06:09:57 <pravins> thanks paragan :)
06:10:31 <epico> paragan++
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06:10:42 <epico> thanks paragan :)
06:10:53 <suanand> thanks paragan
06:12:18 <pravins> As we all are part of continuous improvement mission of FOSS world. Lets get geared for F25 now :)
06:12:20 <juhp> hi!
06:12:28 <pravins> hi juhp :)
06:12:30 <pravins> #chair juhp
06:12:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: Satya epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins suanand tagoh_
06:12:33 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:13:25 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule
06:13:35 <pravins> 2016-07-05 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
06:14:03 <pravins> #info 2016-07-05 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
06:14:14 <pravins> #info  2016-08-09  Alpha Freeze (*)
06:14:31 <pravins> 5 July is just like couple of weeks from now.
06:14:38 <pravins> So, we should plan our changes quickly
06:15:28 <pravins> #info Only couple of weeks (5th July) for system-wide change proposals.
06:16:05 <pravins> Lets move ahead with F25 planning now
06:16:11 <pravins> #topic #64: Fedora 25 planning (pravins)
06:16:11 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/64
06:16:51 <pravins> We discussed following ideas in last meeting
06:16:54 <pravins> IDEA: String Breakage monitoring
06:17:00 <pravins> IDEA: IBus Typing booster multi-lingual
06:17:12 <pravins> IDEA: Glibc localedata sync with Unicode CLDR
06:17:18 <pravins> IDEA: Improvements to anaconda layout chooser
06:17:23 <pravins> IDEA: Listing out deprecated/obscure keyboard layout
06:17:28 <pravins> IDEA: Revisit Zanata survey feedback
06:17:33 <pravins> IDEA: Fedora Atomic review from G11N
06:17:38 <pravins> IDEA: Centralization of Hunspell dictionaries
06:17:44 <pravins> IDEA: Introductory course for starting localization/i18n with Fedora
06:17:49 <pravins> IDEA: LiveCD images
06:17:55 <pravins> IDEA: Langpacks using rpm weak deps
06:18:00 <pravins> IDEA: ITS for Gnome
06:18:08 <pravins> IDEA: Automatic testing
06:18:15 <pravins> IDEA: Description support of the configuration in fontconfig
06:18:56 <pravins> Anyone taking any ideas from this? Wanna to propose new change?
06:19:24 <pravins> From my side: I am going to review "Fedora Atomic review from G11N"
06:19:45 <mfabian> Ibus-typing-booster multilingual is done, but the UI to set it up is still very bad.
06:19:46 <pravins> more specific Atomic workstation, since deadline of change proposal is near. I think i should work on review soon.
06:20:08 <pravins> mfabian: i think we can propose it as a Self-contained proposal.
06:20:29 <pravins> It can help us to get more testing and more user eyes.
06:20:33 <mfabian> I will work on that CLDR sync.
06:20:57 <pravins> That will be very interesting.
06:21:59 <pravins> #action pravins to do review of Atomic workstation soon.
06:22:25 <pravins> mfabian: will you prepare change proposals for I-T-B and Glibc?
06:22:44 <pravins> i think for Glibc good to discuss with Carlos once. What he thinks.
06:23:03 <pravins> i remember he was proposing it in flock 2014.
06:23:35 <mfabian> OK, I can prepare change proposals.
06:24:37 <pravins> thanks mfabian :)
06:24:37 <juhp> great
06:25:05 <pravins> #action mfabian will work on Change proposals for Multilingual typing booster and Glibc CLDR sync.
06:25:32 <pravins> I had some discussion with suanand on String breakage monitoring
06:25:48 <pravins> dunno, whether its qualify as a change proposal.
06:26:15 <pravins> There are two aspects, we came up.
06:27:16 <pravins> 1. was script to run on Fedora packages and check with Zanata po
06:27:55 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy#Self_contained_changes
06:28:04 <suanand> I think zanata_sync and a script which will help in Tracking product package translations with project upstream
06:28:29 <suanand> can do..
06:29:22 <suanand> this script may create diff UI for translations which are breaking and so forth..
06:29:24 <pravins> As per info, I think its good to propose script addition a self-contained change
06:31:11 <pravins> #action suanand to explore self-contained change proposal for string breakage monitoring.
06:31:21 <pravins> thanks suanand :)
06:31:33 <pravins> Any other ideas for Fedora 25?
06:33:51 <pravins> I think we should all meet next week as well for further discussion on F25
06:34:07 <pravins> since our next bi-weekly meeting is after System-wide change proposal deadline.
06:34:27 <pravins> So if no objection, i would like to propose quick 30min meeting dedicated for F25 change proposals
06:35:39 <pravins> #action pravins to schedule 30min meeting next week for discussion on F25 changes.
06:35:50 <pravins> moving to next topic
06:35:51 <pravins> #topic #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (mfabian)
06:35:51 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36
06:36:06 <pravins> i did not saw any movement on our request :(
06:36:33 <mfabian> Hiding the Indian keyboard layouts?
06:37:15 <pravins> yes
06:37:42 <mfabian> There is an upstream bug report on freedesktop.org now
06:37:59 <pravins> thanks anish_ for your comment on bugzilla.
06:38:14 <anish_> thanks pravins
06:38:34 <pravins> hmm, looks Peter waiting for Sergey comments
06:38:52 <pravins> mfabian: planning to ping them?
06:39:43 <anish_> "Centralization of Hunspell dictionaries" seems its pending since long time
06:39:49 <mfabian> Yes, I’ll ping them.
06:40:39 <pravins> great, thanks mfabian :)
06:40:41 <pravins> anish_: True
06:40:53 <pravins> This is very interesting and long time pending project
06:41:03 <pravins> Hunspell project truly need it.
06:41:38 <paragan> anish_, can you provide exact bitbucket link, I could not find it?
06:42:26 <pravins> anish_: wanna take this change proposal?
06:42:43 <pravins> Its itself whole dedicated project though, more communication involved
06:42:44 <anish_> pravins, yes i will take it
06:42:51 <anish_> thanks
06:43:38 <pravins> thats nice anish_ !!
06:43:46 <pravins> anish++
06:43:46 <zodbot> pravins: Karma for anish changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:44:33 <pravins> let me add action item for you then.
06:44:45 <anish_> okay
06:45:15 <pravins> Will it be self contained or System wide?
06:45:27 <pravins> hunspell should be system-wide i think
06:45:40 <pravins> its has lots of dependencies?
06:46:40 <pravins> removing hunspell-en removes lots of textlive packages :)
06:47:07 <pravins> removing hunspell-mr remove libreoffice-langpack-mr
06:47:25 <pravins> #action anish_ to explore on hunspell centralization project and propose change accordingly.
06:47:38 <pravins> moving to next topic
06:47:40 <pravins> #topic #63: Bug triaging activity post F24 Beta release (pravins)
06:47:40 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/63
06:47:49 <pravins> I have provided list to Satya last week
06:47:57 <pravins> As of now, no update on it.
06:48:19 <pravins> We have almost done with our all topics
06:48:23 <pravins> moving to last one
06:48:24 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:48:34 <pravins> Did we missed any topic for todays discussion?
06:49:26 <pravins> if nothing else, lets close meeting in 2min.
06:51:12 <pravins> thanks everyone for meeting :)
06:51:16 <pravins> #endmeeting