21:00:00 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board 21:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 9 21:00:00 2016 UTC. The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine_editorial_board' 21:00:02 <stickster> #meetingname magazine 21:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 21:00:03 <stickster> #topic Roll call 21:00:05 <stickster> .hello pfrields 21:00:06 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 21:00:19 <jflory7> .hello jflory7 21:00:20 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com> 21:00:25 <decause> .hello decause 21:00:26 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com> 21:00:30 <jhogarth> .hello jhogarth 21:00:30 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch 21:00:31 <zodbot> jhogarth: jhogarth 'James Hogarth' <james.hogarth@gmail.com> 21:00:34 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com> 21:00:45 <jflory7> hey all! 21:00:51 <ryanlerch> heyhey! 21:00:53 <jflory7> Quite the crowd today :) 21:01:01 <stickster> #chair jflory7 decause jhogarth ryanlerch 21:01:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: decause jflory7 jhogarth ryanlerch stickster 21:01:03 <stickster> woop woop! 21:02:21 <decause> \o/ 21:02:23 <x3mboy> Hi everybody! 21:02:40 <jflory7> x3mboy: Hiya! 21:02:43 <jflory7> #chair x3mboy 21:02:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: decause jflory7 jhogarth ryanlerch stickster x3mboy 21:03:08 <stickster> #topic Last week review 21:04:00 <stickster> So... a little slim on publishing last week, with two articles IIRC (bridges, release validation) 21:04:16 <stickster> the previous week's stats slightly down but only about 8% or so 21:04:37 <stickster> We need to get better about regular publishing, I think :-\ 21:05:13 <stickster> big props to jhogarth for help with technical edits on bridge article; and cprofitt for the HDYF article! 21:05:17 <stickster> jhogarth++ 21:05:18 <stickster> cprofitt++ 21:05:25 <jflory7> jhogarth++ cprofitt++ 21:05:26 * jhogarth blushes 21:05:36 <ryanlerch> cprofitt++ jhogarth++ 21:05:36 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for cprofitt changed to 11 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:05:40 <zodbot> ryanlerch: Karma for jhogarth changed to 10 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:05:47 <stickster> #topic Review articles 21:06:07 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post 21:06:21 <stickster> #info --- Upgrading with Software --- 21:06:36 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13079&preview=1&_ppp=31ca2e83d1 21:06:51 <stickster> ryanlerch: this one is yours I think? 21:07:21 <jhogarth> with the detail level of the present "upgrade fedora" draft is this one still going to add something new ? 21:07:26 * stickster notes there's another one called "Upgrading Fedora 23 Workstation to Fedora 24" 21:07:31 <stickster> jhogarth: *jinx 21:07:44 <linuxmodder> .fas linuxmodder 21:07:44 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org> 21:07:50 <ryanlerch> yeah, this was ready to go, we just needed to wait to see if the package was in there before pushing it 21:07:59 <linuxmodder> only semi here -- swamped with other stuff atm if you need me ping pls 21:08:08 <stickster> sure thing 21:08:17 <ryanlerch> this one was supposed to be a before GA one touting the new graphical update 21:08:28 <stickster> ryanlerch: It looks like yours is generally about the feature; jflory7's is a specific howto 21:08:33 <stickster> I'd say these are different enough 21:08:36 <ryanlerch> the other one is the normal "how to upgrade" post we do at GA 21:08:37 <jflory7> I think this one could still be good as a spotlight into what may come soon. The release one is specific 21:08:39 <jflory7> Yeah 21:08:48 <jflory7> I think this article still has its place :) 21:09:20 <stickster> jflory7: *: If you're OK I'd like to send out ryanlerch's earlier 21:09:21 <ryanlerch> nirik: do you know what happened at fesco WRT this package? 21:09:24 <stickster> OK, sounds like a +1 to me 21:09:31 <jflory7> stickster: Oh, absolutely! 21:09:34 <stickster> ryanlerch: It's waiting on a couple bugs to be fixed which are considered blocking 21:09:34 * nirik reads up 21:09:35 <ryanlerch> you seemed to have some insight on this last week :) 21:09:39 <jhogarth> ryanlerch, the next fesco meeting is tomrrow 21:09:55 <linuxmodder> stickster, like the grub2 one 21:10:02 <x3mboy> I think that the articles are differents 21:10:05 <stickster> linuxmodder: not the same topic 21:10:07 <linuxmodder> that I have had several times on 4 kernels 21:10:09 <stickster> ryanlerch: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1576#comment:21 21:10:11 <nirik> oh, yes, there's at least one bug still being worked on, but hopefully it will be fixed up in time for release now (especially since we slipped a week) 21:10:14 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1576 21:10:42 <jflory7> Ah, beat me by seconds :) 21:10:42 <ryanlerch> thanks! 21:10:42 <stickster> yeah, I'm pretty sure hughsie is on the case because he wants to see people use this for 23->24 if possible 21:10:49 * stickster has done it several times now with good results 21:11:02 <nirik> but I would hold on it until the f23 one is ready to push out with all the bugs fixed. ;) 21:11:09 <stickster> ryanlerch: nirik: I would consider this article good to go, especially since it says "soon" people will have this capability 21:11:37 <stickster> it doesn't promise a date, and we really could use some material being published... would like to suggest sending this out tomorrow morning 21:11:50 <ryanlerch> i'm leaning towards publishing too -- we are blocking on this, so one could assume it is going to be there for GA 21:12:13 <ryanlerch> we just are trying to avoid publishing something that might not make it into GA 21:12:27 <nirik> stickster: well, ok... I guess, as long as the article is clear that it's not ready yet... but it might make people annoyed that they read about it and can't try it 21:12:32 <stickster> ryanlerch: Sorry, different meaning to "blocking" -- I mean, QA won't want to support this upgrade method if the remaining bugs aren't fixed in Software 21:12:41 <stickster> ryanlerch: The F24 release is not blocked by it 21:12:48 <ryanlerch> stickster: ah ok 21:13:10 <ryanlerch> is it worth being a bit conservative on this one then? 21:13:15 <stickster> but my understanding from kalev is that the bugs are being worked and we would expect F23 to get an update around F24 GA time that will make it ready 21:13:17 <jhogarth> ryanlerch, the position is if it's not ready for F24 GA then it won't be considered an official upgrade one at this time by QA for F23->F24 ... last I knew 21:13:21 <jflory7> I think so 21:13:37 <jflory7> Best to avoid making specific references to it being available for F24 21:13:45 <jflory7> Just in case. 21:14:08 <stickster> now that there's one more week as nirik said, I think it'll work out -- but I agree with jflory7, if we can maybe remove references to F23 as much as possible, that would be helpful 21:14:43 <ryanlerch> yeah, it then is kinda unexciting! we have graphical updates, but you cant use them for 6 months 21:14:50 <ryanlerch> i.e. 24 - 25 21:15:02 <stickster> yup 21:15:24 <jhogarth> well ... 6 months will be pushing it .. .it'll be sooner than that - just not GA for sure 21:15:29 <stickster> ryanlerch: for instance, "The Software app in Fedora 23 Workstation has been updated to include the new feature to allow you to graphically update to Fedora 24 Workstation." 21:15:33 <jflory7> Maybe would it be better to hold on this one until next Friday to see if there's a better likelihood of it being a safe bet? 21:15:39 <jflory7> We might be able to publish something else tomorrow. 21:15:42 <stickster> ryanlerch: "The Software app in Fedora 23 Workstation is planned to be updated to include..." 21:15:50 <stickster> jflory7: Maybe we'll have to. 21:16:34 <ryanlerch> yeah, the issue with that is the timing of this, people are going to assume that 23 -24 is what we are meaning, IMO 21:16:39 <jflory7> I think we can see about trying to push this one next week, but I figure no harm in waiting a bit to see if it stabilizes. 21:16:46 <ryanlerch> even without explicitily stating it 21:16:47 <stickster> #idea Let's hold off on this until things look a little clearer -- revisit next Thu 2016-06-16 21:16:51 * jflory7 nods 21:16:58 <ryanlerch> i'm leaning towards holding it for a bit 21:17:02 <stickster> if things clear up before then we can always shoot it out right away 21:17:11 <ryanlerch> stickster: +1 21:17:19 <ryanlerch> jflory7: +1 21:17:24 <jflory7> Possibly even the Monday before release too, I figure we'd have a pretty good idea by then anyways :P 21:17:29 <stickster> because AFAICT it's basically ready to go the *moment* we know Software is ready to push 21:17:36 <stickster> *nod 21:17:37 <jflory7> stickster: Agreed. 21:17:52 <ryanlerch> sorry to bog you all down on this ome 21:17:58 <stickster> #agreed Look for news on Software, and if not done by then, revisit next Thu 2016-06-16 21:18:02 <stickster> nope, it's a good discussion to have 21:18:20 <stickster> #info --- QA contribution --- 21:18:33 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13265&preview=1&_ppp=8b4da285b2 21:18:40 <stickster> jflory7: how close is this one? 21:18:46 <jflory7> This is just a simple pointer to the Community Blog article 21:18:51 <jflory7> Let me get that fancy WordPress link in there 21:19:06 <jflory7> All it needs is a featured image. 21:19:41 * stickster notes ryanlerch is technically on PTO today, so I can do one after this meeting (or now if someone wants to take over chair) 21:19:51 <stickster> and we could publish at 8 UTC 21:20:12 <jflory7> Okay, refresh the preview, it's there now :) 21:20:19 <jflory7> I could chair if you want to tackle the featured image for it. 21:20:20 <ryanlerch> jflory7: is the commblog article up? 21:20:22 <jflory7> Yep! 21:20:28 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/getting-started-fedora-qa-part-1/ 21:21:32 * linuxmodder doing qa testing if oyu need me ping pls 21:21:33 <ryanlerch> stickster: you doing it now? or me? 21:21:45 * linuxmodder reads back quickly 21:21:59 * ryanlerch is happy to right now 21:22:21 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/issue/18 21:22:24 <stickster> ryanlerch: You are faster than me, go for it 21:22:31 <ryanlerch> roger! 21:22:38 <stickster> faster than *I*, bad stickster no English cookie 21:22:41 <ryanlerch> qucik featured image coming up 21:22:49 <jflory7> ryanlerch++ 21:23:18 <jflory7> stickster: It's alright, we'll be able to give some more in another week or two now... :) 21:23:40 <stickster> yup 21:23:46 <jflory7> Anyways, if Ryan has the featured image, +1 for moving on 21:23:51 <jflory7> Think this one should be set 21:23:58 <stickster> #agreed publish this as soon as image is ready, 8 UTC 2016-06-10 21:24:05 <stickster> #topic Drafts 21:24:38 <jflory7> Lots of drafts! 21:24:40 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post&orderby=date&order=asc 21:24:48 <stickster> #info --- What's new in F24 Workstation --- 21:25:01 <stickster> #info stickster already drafting this, should be done tomorrow or Monday, in plenty of time for GA 21:25:22 <jflory7> stickster++ 21:25:47 <stickster> #info --- Getting started with Fedora Jam --- 21:25:57 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12800&preview=1&_ppp=ca0206ca4f 21:25:57 <linuxmodder> 8 == 080 UTC right? 21:26:03 <stickster> yes 21:26:31 <stickster> Does anyone know whether this one is ready? I think it's mainly missing screenshots and possibly a YouTube link mentioned in the body 21:26:37 * jflory7 can answer 21:26:41 <stickster> go4it 21:27:27 <jflory7> #info Author (paradoxguitarist) planned to have this one after F24. Currently compose issues with Fedora Jam (which is why it is not on labs.fp.o). Hoping to write it about it once issues resolved, also plans to introduce Jam a bit, who it's for, what all it does, etc. 21:27:52 <stickster> jflory7: Should we move this one to Holding until that happens? 21:27:58 <jflory7> Might be worth doing a status check email next week just to make sure it's still on his mind. 21:28:03 <jflory7> Hmmm... I think that's safe. 21:28:22 <jflory7> This would probably be end of June when it would be ready, I think 21:28:30 <jflory7> We'll just have to remember to peek in the holding pen :) 21:28:39 <stickster> agreed 21:28:51 <stickster> #agreed Move this to holding pen, but it's available to move back to draft at any time 21:29:00 <stickster> #action stickster do the thing 21:29:02 <stickster> done, btw 21:29:15 <jflory7> I love seeing these types of articles. I remember when we did the Security Lab highlight in December, and the metrics showed a noticeable bump in downloads 21:29:29 <stickster> #info --- Setting up Owncloud etc. --- 21:29:29 <jflory7> Hopefully the Jam lab will be able to benefit from the same :) 21:29:31 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12941&preview=1&_ppp=19370654ff 21:30:14 <stickster> no change since last time I think 21:30:20 <jflory7> I don't think so. 21:30:27 <jflory7> I can't remember if Matt gave an ETA on this 21:30:33 <jflory7> Will search mail really fast 21:31:12 <jflory7> Okay, might be worth checking in with him on status on it. I think he was hoping to have it ready sooner than later. 21:32:01 <decause> wellllll, didn't owncloud go under this week? 21:32:08 <jflory7> Oh, lol 21:32:11 <jflory7> Right, forgot about that 21:32:12 <decause> like, hostile fork and company fell apart? 21:32:13 <jhogarth> I'm keeping an eye on that one in case he needs any help with the owncloud stuff 21:32:15 <jflory7> Think it still exists 21:32:15 <decause> yeah 21:32:27 <stickster> decause: HAHA. good point, this really needs to go back to school & focus on nextcloud (iirc) 21:32:29 <jhogarth> also in case nexcloud obsoletes it - I haven't yet decided 21:32:34 <jflory7> NextCloud vs. ownCloud 21:32:47 <decause> we could "wait and see" for a week or two at least 21:32:57 <jflory7> This was the email update here: 21:32:58 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/AFXOFRTFKXJEMD3RW6XNQ4JMFLL2YOGI/ 21:33:01 <jhogarth> I expect by the time that gets to review stage I@ll know what I plan to do with the packages 21:33:08 <jflory7> I can fire back and let him know we might want to hold. 21:33:13 <jflory7> Because of the state of ownCloud. 21:33:24 <jhogarth> <-- owncloud maintainer remember :p 21:33:48 <jflory7> Ah, yeah :) 21:33:56 <jflory7> Your feedback will be super useful on this one too then. 21:34:00 <stickster> jhogarth++ 21:34:05 <jflory7> jhogarth++ 21:34:20 <decause> jhogarth++ 21:34:26 <jhogarth> for what it's worth i'm keeping a close eye on both communities to see where things look like they will go ... and the answer is uncertain yet 21:34:33 <decause> jhogarth: nod nod nod 21:35:00 <jhogarth> but even if I switch, given the nature of the fork and the obsolete, it'll be a sed s/owncloud/nextcloud/ for his article ;) 21:35:08 <stickster> *nod 21:35:20 <stickster> so maybe we let this sit for now 21:35:42 <jflory7> Replying back to the list with an update for Matt now 21:35:58 <stickster> #action jflory7 reply to list with update 21:36:03 <stickster> moving on then :-) 21:36:08 <stickster> #info --- Gwenview --- 21:36:10 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13075&preview=1&_ppp=edbf1f060e 21:36:11 <jhogarth> probably best - FYI I'm on vacation june 21st - july 10th ... nothing is going to happen on the switch until ~july 14th earliest even if nextcloud get a release out by then and I think it sensibel to direct fedora/epel users that wya 21:36:13 <jhogarth> way* 21:36:37 <stickster> So this Gwenview article just needs some editorial and an image but I think it's roughly ready 21:36:46 <stickster> I could work on this Sunday to push on Monday? 21:37:28 <x3mboy> I think is ready 21:37:42 <jflory7> Haven't had a chance to review yet - I know there was some discussion on the list but I hadn't read that quite yet either. 21:37:58 <jflory7> Will take a quick peek now to make sure we're all set from Sylvia's end 21:38:15 <stickster> Just some minor text editing suggestions on the list, jflory7 21:38:18 <ryanlerch> okies, okies, featured image done! 21:38:23 <jflory7> Ah, yeah :) 21:38:28 <jflory7> stickster: Seems ready to go. +1 for Monday. 21:38:28 <stickster> and I can write the wrapup 21:38:40 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Awesome! 21:38:49 <stickster> #action stickster do editorial clean up and featured image, and schedule for Monday 2016-06-13 21:38:50 <jflory7> ryanlerch: If you want to upload it, you can just go ahead and schedule for tomorrow. 21:39:06 <ryanlerch> jflory, it should be in there already 21:39:13 <jflory7> Oh, perfect :) 21:39:28 <ryanlerch> tried to make it a generic QA team one 21:39:29 <stickster> #info --- OpenShift Origin on Fedora (feature) --- 21:39:33 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13081&preview=1&_ppp=f1d7cd6563 21:39:36 <ryanlerch> so we can use it in the future too 21:39:47 <stickster> ryanlerch: this article ^^ is yours I think 21:39:52 <stickster> ryanlerch++ 21:40:12 <ryanlerch> ah yeah 21:40:26 <jflory7> (QA article scheduled) 21:40:30 <ryanlerch> i think this is a post GA one 21:40:57 <stickster> OK, we can put aside for now 21:41:11 <ryanlerch> same with the other one i think 21:41:30 <stickster> #info this is for post-F24 GA, revisit ~2016-06-20 (as well as Developer Mode) 21:41:41 <stickster> #info --- Plex --- 21:42:07 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13096&preview=1&_ppp=62921e52d6 21:42:13 <stickster> jflory7: do you know the origin of this one? 21:42:23 * stickster thinks he recalls some discussion of freeness 21:42:28 <jflory7> Ahhh, yeah. 21:42:37 <x3mboy> It was discussed last meeting, i think 21:42:47 <stickster> Oh yeah, ffmpeg :-\ 21:42:50 <jflory7> This is Martino on the list. We reviewed it last week, and we tentatively approved it last week from a pitch. 21:42:53 <x3mboy> Because the server is propertary or something like that 21:42:56 <jflory7> But only for the client-side, however 21:42:59 <jflory7> x3mboy++ 21:42:59 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for x3mboy changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:43:04 <jhogarth> pretty sure the agreement was that the client was in fedora, so as long as it focused on the client it was acceptable ... IIRC 21:43:04 <jflory7> Yep. 21:43:28 <stickster> Ah, we may have the one without ffmpeg 21:43:29 <stickster> cool 21:43:55 <stickster> umm... except I don't see it in Fedora 21:44:04 <stickster> jhogarth: jflory7: Do you know what the package is? 21:44:57 <jflory7> Errrr... I'm not sure specifically. I think I remember him saying it was packaged, but I'm not personally sure, I never checked. 21:45:01 <jhogarth> no sorry, you'd have to ask him if it's not in the article - no idea off the top of my head 21:45:26 <stickster> OK, I don't see it via dnf in F24, and I also see in github that it requires ffmpeg, so that's a solid no-go/-1 from me 21:46:10 <decause> nod nod 21:47:08 * stickster emails the list 21:48:07 <stickster> just to clarify... my stance on "free-ness" for the Magazine is that I don't particularly care if we advise people about using something non-free on Fedora, but we shouldn't be advising to use something that's *illicit* 21:48:38 <jflory7> Hmmm... could you elaborate more on that? 21:48:41 <stickster> for instance, I don't care if an article tells people how to go download Steam. But I don't think we want to tell them how to download e.g. libdvdcss 21:48:43 * jflory7 wants to understand for future cases 21:48:46 <ryanlerch> hmmm, we made the decision last meeting on the basis that it was in feodra 21:49:13 <stickster> ryanlerch: I don't think it is, but I would *love* to be proven wrong, honestly :-) 21:49:15 <ryanlerch> if it is not, - change my +1 to a -1 21:49:21 <jflory7> What is the illicit factor for ffmpeg? 21:49:23 <ryanlerch> for the client that is 21:49:23 <x3mboy> Sorry for ignorance, What's wrong with libdvdcss??? 21:49:26 <stickster> I can't locate it by doing 'dnf list \*plex\* 21:49:31 <ryanlerch> jflory7: patent issues 21:49:33 <jflory7> Yeah, if it's not in Fedora, I'm -1 on the Plex article too. 21:49:43 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Ohh, I see. 21:51:55 <stickster> x3mboy: also patent issues 21:52:20 <stickster> so, no reflection on anyone, just I think we shouldn't jump into any hot water here 21:52:36 * jflory7 nods 21:52:43 * stickster has no problem with showing people how to build non-Fedora free software that's not troublesome like that 21:52:54 <jflory7> That's super good info to know 21:52:58 <stickster> And hey, I'm just one guy, so I can be overruled here :-) 21:53:04 <ryanlerch> yeah, my stance is the same as stickster on this one, propietary is not bad for the magazine, anything that may have patent issues we need to avoid 21:53:25 <stickster> yeah, I think from the legal standpoint that's the smart way to go 21:53:25 <jflory7> No, I think it's in our interest to show all of the things you can do with Fedora even if some of the software is non-free 21:53:36 <jflory7> The clarification about illicit vs. non-free is really helpful. 21:53:46 <jflory7> stickster++ ryanlerch++ 21:54:08 <x3mboy> I think it will -1 from with the Plex Article. I mean, Plex Media Player free over a porpertary server? There is a lot of open sourced media servers to talk about 21:54:09 <stickster> jflory7: yeah, "illicit" isn't a perfect term, because it has a connotation that reflects on users or authors, and that's not what I mean either 21:54:30 <jflory7> "legally ambiguous" :) 21:54:37 <stickster> jflory7: better maybe? 21:54:39 <stickster> :-) 21:55:16 <ryanlerch> +1 21:55:29 <jflory7> x3mboy: There are probably some others that could be written about in place of Plex. /me isn't personally familiar with media servers in general though. 21:55:32 <stickster> #agreed Let's advise against Plex at this time, but enourage Martino to write about something else not similarly encumbered 21:55:48 <stickster> So... we still don't have anything for next Wed 21:55:56 <jhogarth> <cough cough> 21:56:03 <jflory7> I think we have two more in Drafts that would work :) 21:56:05 <stickster> and... 21:56:06 <jhogarth> keep going stickster ... my article didn't go out today after all :P 21:56:08 <stickster> jhogarth: perfect intro ;-) 21:56:09 <x3mboy> stickster, in mail list he said is ok if this article don't pass through the needle eye 21:56:17 <stickster> #info --- A Day in the Life of a Packager --- 21:56:28 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13166&preview=1&_ppp=3e09dc1bb4 21:57:01 <x3mboy> My english is so bad, sorry 21:57:23 <jflory7> I read this one, but didn't have a chance to edit. I gave a +1 to it. I wouldn't mind taking on editing for it to publish for next Wednesday. 21:57:37 <stickster> jhogarth: this looks like a great article, although I haven't read it carefully 21:57:40 <stickster> just skimmed 21:57:43 <stickster> jflory7: you're on! 21:57:52 * jflory7 types up the #action 21:57:59 <stickster> jflory7: oho, you sly dog 21:58:32 <ryanlerch> +1 21:58:33 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Review and edit the "A Day in the Life of a Packager" article by end-of-day Monday for a Wednesday publication due:2016-06-13T22:00 21:58:41 <stickster> BOOM 21:58:56 <x3mboy> +1 21:59:02 <stickster> if the fates are kind maybe we'll also be able to publish the Software article next Friday 21:59:23 <jhogarth> stickster++ 21:59:23 <zodbot> jhogarth: Karma for pfrields changed to 15 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:59:25 <stickster> btw, Martino's netdata idea looks *awesome* 21:59:34 <stickster> that's free and looks super-cool 21:59:42 <jflory7> If the netdata one were prepared by next week, it could be useful 21:59:43 <stickster> But... we are out of time 21:59:50 <jflory7> Oh, wow! 21:59:51 <jhogarth> still haven't looked into packaging it yet ... kind of want to heh 22:00:06 <jflory7> That hour went by seemingly fast 22:00:27 <ryanlerch> :( 22:00:38 * ryanlerch does have a hard stop now though! 22:00:40 <x3mboy> I will package netdata 22:00:43 <x3mboy> :D 22:00:44 * stickster too 22:00:46 <stickster> thank ryanlerch 22:00:50 <ryanlerch> see you all later! 22:00:50 <stickster> thanks, even 22:00:54 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Enjoy the rest of your PTO! 22:01:00 <stickster> +2 that 22:01:05 <jhogarth> ryanlerch++ 22:01:05 <zodbot> jhogarth: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 16 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:01:09 <ryanlerch> jflory7: stickster x3mboy jhogarth thanks! 22:01:10 <jflory7> x3mboy: That would be awesome!! I saw some of the discussion around that on the list, I think. 22:01:14 <stickster> #action stickster email list and see if martino can draft this 22:01:23 <jflory7> +1 22:01:34 <jflory7> I think we can revisit the rest of the queue next meeting 22:01:39 <x3mboy> jflory7, it wasn't a discussion properly, but yes, this will be my first package 22:01:50 <jflory7> x3mboy: Awesome :) 22:01:52 <stickster> ok, thanks everyone for being here! 22:01:54 <stickster> #endmeeting