00:59:16 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA 00:59:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri May 13 00:59:16 2016 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:59:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:59:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 00:59:26 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA 00:59:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 00:59:37 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 00:59:51 <award3535> #chair Lord_Drachenblut 00:59:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 00:59:59 <juggler> o/ 01:00:05 <jsandys> not driving! 01:00:19 <award3535> #chair juggler jsandys 01:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 jsandys juggler 01:00:20 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor 01:00:21 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com> 01:00:29 * masta looks in 01:00:31 <masta> Howdy folks 01:00:33 <award3535> #chair danofsatx masta 01:00:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 danofsatx jsandys juggler masta 01:00:39 <danofsatx> yo, masta! o/ 01:00:44 <kk4ewt> .hello jbwillia 01:00:45 <zodbot> kk4ewt: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@yahoo.com> 01:00:49 <juggler> hey, masta! 01:00:56 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt 01:00:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 danofsatx jsandys juggler kk4ewt masta 01:02:07 <award3535> #topic === Announcements === 01:02:26 <award3535> anyone have any announcements 01:02:31 <kk4ewt> uli 23-20160512 01:02:35 <kk4ewt> uli 23-20160512 01:02:41 <kk4ewt> F23-20160512 updated live isos are available at http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins 01:02:59 <juggler> is mr. flory here? 01:03:04 <juggler> he might have some.. 01:03:08 <Lord_Drachenblut> markdude wishes he looks as good as I do in a kilt.... that is all I have to announce 01:03:13 <award3535> jflory7 will not be here tonight 01:03:26 <award3535> I have two 01:03:42 <linuxmodder> .hello linuxmodder 01:03:43 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org> 01:03:51 <award3535> #chiar linuxmodder 01:03:52 <juggler> kk4ewt ... what's the uli stuff about? 01:04:01 <award3535> #chair linuxmodder 01:04:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 danofsatx jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta 01:04:16 <linuxmodder> lol and I thought only I typo'd like that :) 01:04:52 <linuxmodder> its a doit command in his client iirc 01:04:56 <linuxmodder> juggler, ^ 01:04:59 <award3535> my first announcement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_event_owner_guidelines setup to give basic and required items while conducting events 01:05:28 <juggler> modder ah, okeedokee :) 01:06:06 <award3535> second revised reimbursement guide https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines#Requirements_for_Reimbursements 01:07:01 <masta> cool 01:07:08 <award3535> thats all I have 01:07:08 <linuxmodder> award3535, kk4ewt said you had a shirt for me :) let me know if you plan on sending before SELF otherwise I just planned on getting form you at SELF 01:07:15 <linuxmodder> thanks btw 01:07:29 * linuxmodder looks at new draft 01:07:45 <juggler> thx award for the guide 01:07:51 <award3535> linuxmodder I will bring them with me, I will be there on Thursday night 01:07:53 <juggler> +s 01:08:26 <linuxmodder> award3535, only needed one but okay thanks 01:08:51 <danofsatx> where is SELF? 01:09:02 <kk4ewt> charlotte nc 01:09:16 <danofsatx> damn... 01:09:30 <award3535> ok moving on 01:09:31 <award3535> #topic === Tickets === 01:10:04 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:10:34 <award3535> .famnaticket 118 01:10:35 <zodbot> award3535: #118 (LFNW 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/118 01:10:39 <Lord_Drachenblut> i'm curious why pdf is required for the reciepts? this seems like a added layer of complexity that is just not needed 01:11:00 <Lord_Drachenblut> a image file should be just as usable as a pdf 01:11:25 <kk4ewt> because that its what most business require 01:11:28 <award3535> Lord_Drachenblut that is what RH requires, items scanned into a PDF 01:12:04 <award3535> I brought ticket 118 back up for closure 01:12:10 <danofsatx> I use FastScan on my phone. It uses camera to scan into PDFs. 01:12:25 <jsandys> What is needed for LFNW? 01:12:25 <award3535> jsandys do you have the reports completed 01:13:00 <award3535> jsandys I also need the final costs and reports from attending ambassadors 01:13:02 <jsandys> Posted on Planet Fedora but not linked to the event page yet 01:13:32 <award3535> jsandys please do so then I can close out the ticket 01:13:44 <linuxmodder> pdf part seems gay but okay 01:13:59 <masta> it's pretty standard 01:14:19 <jsandys> Sponsorship was paid by invoice and shipping was paid from the other end, what do I need? 01:14:52 <award3535> just the link on the event page and a summary sent to the ambassadors mailing list 01:15:06 <kk4ewt> total of it all on the wiki page 01:15:20 <jsandys> OK 01:15:31 <award3535> once all the information is filled out on the wiki page I can close out the ticket 01:16:27 <award3535> .famnaticket 119 01:16:29 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119 01:16:35 <jsandys> I'll get the event box shipping from paradoxguitarist, can you send me the banner shipping? 01:16:52 <danofsatx> masta: go! 01:17:25 <masta> IT's a go. 01:17:32 <masta> the event 01:17:45 <masta> kk4ewt, did we ever get a tracking number on the banners? 01:18:08 <cydrobolt> Hi all 01:18:18 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt 01:18:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: Lord_Drachenblut award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta 01:18:43 <juggler> hey cb 01:18:49 <masta> ok, I'll just assume there will be no banners. 01:19:06 <danofsatx> again? 01:19:13 <award3535> masta standby, I will see what is up 01:19:54 <award3535> ping kk4ewt 01:20:06 <kk4ewt> yes 01:20:35 <award3535> kk4ewt masta is asking about banners for OSCON 01:20:37 <kk4ewt> masta check the ticket 01:20:44 <masta> kk4ewt, ack 01:20:53 <masta> thanks kk4ewt 01:20:57 <kk4ewt> i also sent the info to award3535 01:21:04 <masta> perfect 01:21:13 <award3535> yes I saw the email 01:21:37 <kk4ewt> jsandys, check your ticket as well 01:21:41 <award3535> masta everything else set 01:21:48 <masta> So OSCON is starting next Tuesday, I'll be on site Monday to start getting ready. 01:22:02 <masta> EOF 01:22:18 <danofsatx> I'll be onsite monday evening after my daughter's final recital at 3:30 01:22:55 <danofsatx> masta: send me your number, please 01:23:02 <kk4ewt> sorry in 3 different meeting at the moment 01:23:05 <jsandys> Got it 01:23:11 <award3535> looks like everything is going well for OSCON 01:23:20 <award3535> ok moving to open floor 01:23:31 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:23:48 <masta> So I'm behind on contacting TXLF folks about a cheaper booth 01:23:58 <masta> I'll try to get to that soon 01:24:18 <award3535> for everyone's info I got the paperwork for the community card, will be sending it off tomorrow 01:24:32 <kk4ewt> yeah 01:24:40 <jsandys> I had a question from a potential campus ambassador, what is the legal relationship between Fedora, the College and the campus ambassador. 01:24:44 <juggler> i have some more info about DefCon if anyone's interested 01:25:01 <masta> juggler, how much is a booth? 01:25:16 <juggler> varies depending on how big, but all the pricing is here: 01:25:17 <juggler> http://www.defconvendors.com/ 01:25:22 <kk4ewt> jsandys, the same as the relationship between an ambassador and fedora 01:25:41 <juggler> note that power, Internet, and having an overhead sign cost extra 01:25:52 <juggler> each space comes with 1 badge 01:26:04 <juggler> Vendor Reg is due by June 1st 01:26:09 <jsandys> Would Fedora or the student need to 'register' thier relationship? 01:26:42 <juggler> jsandys ? 01:26:47 <jsandys> Continue with TXLF first 01:27:09 <juggler> jsandys ah ok, different thread.. 01:27:31 <masta> the TXLF thread is over, sry I didn't mention that 01:28:01 <juggler> as for the bsideslv thing, I am still waiting to hear back from those folks on table costs. it isn't clear from their FAQ page.. 01:28:10 <award3535> juggler, I think the event would get exposure but quite expensive 01:28:28 <kk4ewt> award3535, too expensive 01:28:46 <masta> DEFCON doesn't look too terribly expensive 01:29:07 <award3535> juggler, the return would not out weigh the cost 01:29:37 <juggler> dunno...for LFNW, the gold booth cost itself was $1K. 01:29:40 <masta> well actualyl the associated service are weird 01:29:56 <kk4ewt> masta considering its in the same price range as oscon 01:30:13 <award3535> juggler a booth at defcon is 6K plus ammenities 01:30:22 <juggler> that's for a 6-table 01:30:27 <masta> kk4ewt, I think OSCON is way higher in cost, we caught a break sneaking in with RH. 01:30:42 <juggler> an 8x8 table is $1k 01:30:51 <danofsatx> 8'x8' booth is $1000, $200 for power, $325 for network. 01:30:51 <juggler> correction 01:31:04 <juggler> an 8'x8' space with an 8x3 table is $1k 01:31:13 <masta> yeah, that is not too bad 01:31:20 <award3535> yeah I overlooked that piece 01:31:23 <kk4ewt> plus power 01:31:31 <masta> then it comes down to travel & hotel 01:31:50 <juggler> and it is debatable whether we want to use their network, considering the convention. :) 01:31:51 <masta> so pretty much ~ $1,500 for the smallest package 01:32:16 <award3535> then travel and lodging is where the other cost would be 01:32:18 <juggler> any ideas how hotel and travel are to vegas? 01:32:38 <juggler> i imagine the place will be full with Defcon and BsidesLV folks... 01:32:58 <masta> juggler, Vegas is one of the cheapest places to travel anywhere 01:33:23 <juggler> cool 01:33:31 <masta> it's as if that city subsidizes air travel for visitors 01:33:43 <award3535> lodging is a little more than expected 01:33:46 <juggler> so does this seem like a feasible event to draw up a page for? 01:33:49 <masta> or they just have that high of a travel capacity 01:34:15 <kk4ewt> every weekend 01:34:22 <masta> juggler, try to work out the expenses, if the whole thing can be done for ~2k that would be great 01:34:44 <kk4ewt> there are big conventions in Vegas almost weekly 01:34:55 <juggler> masta...i can do basic spreadsheeting, but I might need some help with the financials :) 01:35:05 <masta> juggler, okay 01:35:24 <juggler> and if I hear anything back on the Bsides side, I'll let everyone know 01:35:42 <kk4ewt> juggler, get the numbers then we can run it up the flag pole and see who salutes 01:35:47 <masta> juggler, spec out how much for yourself to travel there, and the cost of one extra expo pass, hotel, etc 01:36:02 <award3535> juggler worth a look, see what you can get put together 01:36:23 <juggler> masta, are you the potential +1? :) 01:36:32 <masta> juggler, yes 01:36:38 <juggler> that would be nice to know that i'd be not flying solo...cool. 01:36:54 <juggler> ok...i'll try to draw something up 01:37:02 <award3535> juggler be sure to consult the link I posted earlier! 01:37:18 <juggler> i haven't created a wiki page on the events page, so I'll let you kknow if I get stuck... 01:37:22 <kk4ewt> i am afaid we can not get it paid in time 01:37:44 <juggler> it? 01:37:56 <juggler> oh, you mean the registration by 6/1? 01:38:00 <kk4ewt> the sponsorship 01:38:09 <award3535> the event, will require a PO from RH 01:38:26 <juggler> if we agree to it before 6/1, could we prepay on our own card and request reimb? 01:38:29 <kk4ewt> yes and if a po is required we are already too late 01:39:02 <kk4ewt> too much for the credit card 01:39:06 <juggler> not sure if they accept PO's... 01:39:06 <kk4ewt> thus the PO 01:39:08 <juggler> *shrug* 01:39:12 <award3535> juggler, I have never seen anyone do that before 01:40:11 <juggler> so shall we shelve this for 2017 or continue investigating? 01:40:34 <award3535> juggler keep in mind that anything that is 1k or above requires a PO and yes definitely put on the map for next year 01:40:38 <danofsatx> +1 2017 01:41:07 <kk4ewt> juggler, investigate so we can look at it again next year 01:41:43 <kk4ewt> put it on the event wiki so we know to look at it 01:41:43 <masta> I've got to go folks 01:41:46 <masta> have a good one 01:41:53 <juggler> offhand, can we create an event far into the future, or take notes for now to populate later? 01:42:02 <juggler> thx masta 01:42:04 <award3535> have a good evening masta and thank you for showing up 01:42:27 <kk4ewt> juggler, put it as an event and build your wiki for this year 01:42:40 <kk4ewt> it will be there as a record for next yesr 01:42:43 <kk4ewt> year 01:43:04 <juggler> kk4ewt good thought...thanks! 01:43:11 <kk4ewt> juggler, and the uli stuff is i have a user command for the update live info and i messed up 01:43:32 <juggler> kk4ewt yeah, i'll need to get together with you to figure out that stuff :) 01:44:07 <juggler> ok, on that note, I need to head out to my 7p meeting. good evening all.. 01:44:52 <award3535> thank you juggler for attending and if you need help with wiki kk4ewt and I can provide assistance 01:45:12 <juggler> ps, I have to attend a work thing 5/19, but I will hopefully be back the following week... 01:45:19 <juggler> award thank you! 01:48:56 <kk4ewt> i will not be here next week 01:49:07 <award3535> no worries kk4ewt 01:49:15 <kk4ewt> i have added myself to the vacation calandar 01:49:18 <award3535> there will be no tickets 01:49:45 <kk4ewt> i will be at Dayton Hamvention 01:49:51 <jsandys> Re campus ambassador 01:49:55 <jsandys> The student was concerned how the school would consider their relationship with fedora, since they probably would try to influence what software the professors and institution use. 01:50:11 <kk4ewt> (been trying to figure out a way to work that and fedora together) 01:50:27 <danofsatx> I'm done. good night. 01:50:39 <kk4ewt> jsandys, as a volunteer contributor 01:50:41 <award3535> danofsatx thank you for attending 01:51:08 <jsandys> That is my thought, but it is something to consider 01:51:19 <kk4ewt> jsandys, if the student can start a lug 01:51:27 <kk4ewt> that would be the best 01:53:57 <cydrobolt> I have something to ask 01:54:22 <award3535> go 01:55:40 <award3535> cydrobolt go 01:55:50 <cydrobolt> kk4ewt, do you have any updates on reimbursements for justin and I? 01:55:59 <cydrobolt> Do you have an idea of how long it may be? 01:56:11 <kk4ewt> cydrobolt, i have nothing to do with those 01:56:20 <cydrobolt> Okay 01:56:21 <award3535> cydrobolt did you email jzb and decause 01:56:28 <cydrobolt> I followed up a while back but no reply 01:56:46 <kk4ewt> you guys marked it to me on the ticket which i noticed and reassigned to the finacne dept 01:56:47 <award3535> send another email to jzb and decause 01:57:12 <kk4ewt> as soon as award get the CC he will be able to do those 01:58:11 <kk4ewt> cydrobolt, i am the logistics person, money is someone elses job 01:58:17 <kk4ewt> budget 01:58:59 <award3535> cydrobolt get another email out, if you do not hear back from either let me know and I will call them 01:59:06 <kk4ewt> we need to get our expense ready to file by june 1st, and have our 2nd quarter info in as well 01:59:54 <cydrobolt> Okay. I'll email again award3535 02:00:33 <award3535> kk4ewt will do 02:00:41 <award3535> anyone have anything else 02:00:51 <kk4ewt> yeag bedtime 02:01:48 <award3535> ok everyone have a good evening see most of you next week 02:01:51 <award3535> #endmeeting