05:07:37 <zsun> #startmeeting APAC 2016-05-13
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05:07:42 <zsun> #topic Roll Call
05:07:50 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
05:07:50 <amit> .hellomynameis amitshah
05:07:51 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
05:07:52 <zsun> .hellomynameis zsun
05:07:55 <zodbot> amit: amitshah 'Amit Shah' <amit.shah@redhat.com>
05:07:58 <zodbot> zsun: zsun 'Ziqian SUN (Zamir)' <sztsian@gmail.com>
05:08:01 <pjp> Hi,
05:08:09 <zsun> #chair amit sayan GIANT_CRAB pjp
05:08:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: GIANT_CRAB amit pjp sayan zsun
05:08:10 <sayan> pjp: hi
05:08:17 <GIANT_CRAB> Huiren, GMT +0800, Ambassador, common ops
05:08:41 <zsun> #chair pravins
05:08:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: GIANT_CRAB amit pjp pravins sayan zsun
05:11:00 <zsun> #info today's topic  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
05:11:29 * pjp clicks
05:12:15 <pjp> An update about FY17 APAC Delegates
05:12:33 <zsun> #topic FY17 APAC Delegates
05:12:42 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/234
05:13:01 <pjp> Gerard Braad who had earlier expressed interest to be a 'Story Teller' for APAC, has decided to opt out
05:13:32 <zsun> I talked with him earlier this week, he is currently too busy with his dayjob.
05:13:50 <pjp> Ie. the position now remains open, we need a new candidate
05:13:59 <pjp> zsun: I see,
05:14:31 <zsun> pjp: as we mentioned during FAD, I guess I can take this role for Q3 Q4 of FY17, but not now
05:14:58 <pjp> zsun: :)
05:15:32 <pjp> zsun: We'll send out a mail announcement saying the position remains open,
05:15:52 <zsun> yes
05:16:33 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
05:16:34 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
05:16:46 <zsun> and if there are no response till late times (we need a deadline here), I'll just do this
05:16:52 <zsun> #chair gnokii
05:16:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: GIANT_CRAB amit gnokii pjp pravins sayan zsun
05:17:36 <pjp> gnokii: current #topic is -  FY17 APAC Delegates
05:18:18 <pravins> hi all !!
05:19:48 <gnokii> mmh
05:20:35 <zsun> then when shall the deadline be
05:20:37 <pjp> zsun: I'll send out an email, we can move on for now, unless someone has any inputs/comments about it
05:20:56 <pjp> zsun: This month end?
05:21:11 <zsun> then I guess next APAC meeting maybe a good idea
05:21:20 <pjp> zsun: Yes
05:22:05 * zsun Thesis defence next meeting time :-(
05:23:00 <zsun> #action pjp send out email on finding candidates for APAC 'Storyteller' FY17
05:23:20 <zsun> any more for this topic?
05:24:08 <zsun> #info zsun can act as 'Storyteller' for Q3Q4 of FY17
05:24:20 <pjp> zsun: Great!
05:24:24 <hanthana> .fas snavin
05:24:25 <zodbot> hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka@gmail.com>
05:24:26 <pjp> zsun++
05:24:28 <zodbot> pjp: Karma for zsun changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
05:24:44 <zsun> #chair hanthana
05:24:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: GIANT_CRAB amit gnokii hanthana pjp pravins sayan zsun
05:25:08 <zsun> then next topic?
05:25:10 <pjp> zsun: Next topic no FAD meeting update about venue in Indonesia, plan b
05:25:13 <pjp> ?
05:25:37 <zsun> #topic FAD APAC 2016
05:26:41 <zsun> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Yogyakarta_2016
05:26:49 <pjp> Since Prima is inaccessible, we need to figure out another venue if we are set on Jul 9-10 week-end for it.
05:27:01 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/236
05:27:46 <gnokii> mmh I dont know why there are some ppl in CC
05:28:55 <zsun> the ticket was created with these cc
05:28:56 <pjp> gnokii: they are from prospective regions that came up in the last meeting,
05:29:11 <gnokii> ahja where is me then?
05:29:48 <hanthana> :)
05:30:04 <zsun> I've replied with my concerns for\ China
05:30:40 <pjp> gnokii: You are active, they are mostly invisible, idea was to explicitly reach out to them to avoid things like I didn't see the ticket
05:31:06 <pjp> hanthana: -> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/439#comment:4
05:31:20 <pjp> zsun: Yes,
05:31:54 <gnokii> means I have to crouch through trac to see whats going on
05:32:56 <hanthana> pjp, i will have a chat with gnokii regarding the design details
05:32:58 <hanthana> thanks
05:33:06 <pjp> hanthana: Okay,
05:34:22 <pjp> So, any preferences for the FAD venue from the list ?
05:34:44 <pjp> China is out, India we discussed in the last meeting would be expensive
05:34:54 <pravins> pjones: where is list?
05:35:02 <pjp> Indonesia no updates yet,
05:35:06 <gnokii> pjp its lesser about preferences its more about possibilities
05:35:14 <zsun> pravins:  see ticket 236,
05:35:25 <pravins> zsun: thank you.
05:35:38 <pjp> pravins: -> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/236
05:36:07 <zsun> agree with gnokii.
05:36:49 <pjp> gnokii: Agreed, just trying to narrow down the list, then we could reach out to the ambassador's there.
05:36:59 <pravins> Can Tuan make it in Vietnam?
05:37:07 <gnokii> pjp didnt I do that last meeting?
05:37:22 <gnokii> pravins this guy has no time for organizing anything
05:37:33 <pjp> :)
05:37:33 <zsun> let's say, who is available to arrange this in his own country
05:37:51 <pravins> right.
05:38:13 <pjp> zsun: No candidates from the respective regions here,
05:38:20 <zsun> oops
05:38:29 <pjp> Where is Izhar these days? Any ideas?
05:38:46 <gnokii> pjp izhar comes not really to meetings
05:39:09 <pjp> As said earlier Malaysia maybe good
05:39:29 <pjp> We could check with Izhar,
05:39:50 <gnokii> yeah but same as Tuan would be happier Izhar does his tasks still waiting for FAD Singapore
05:42:43 <zsun> I think we can check the expense matrix for hotels/hostels if still no update.
05:43:59 <gnokii> what matrix check hu
05:44:15 <pjp> Time check - 15 mins to go
05:44:30 <zsun> sorry, I mean check the expense and make a matrix
05:45:10 <pjp> zsun: For each country ? That won't help, we need someone to take charge on the ground there.
05:45:28 <zsun> then I've no more ideas  :(
05:45:39 <gnokii> pjp so looks like plan C
05:47:29 <pjp> I've just pinged Izhar, let's see,
05:47:37 <pjp> gnokii: plan C - Cambodia ?
05:47:48 <gnokii> yeah
05:48:16 <pjp> gnokii: Great! :)
05:48:19 <pjp> Does it work for all ?
05:48:31 <zsun> fine with me
05:48:38 <sayan> wfm
05:49:05 <hanthana> +1
05:50:19 <pravins> As per order listed, if Vietnam, Malaysia not able to do it. I am good with Cambodia.
05:50:58 <pjp> Cool! That's settled then.
05:51:10 <pjp> gnokii++
05:51:10 <zodbot> pjp: Karma for gnokii changed to 14 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
05:51:27 <pjp> zsun: Next topic ?
05:51:30 <gnokii> so when Tuan and Izhar not respond positive it plan C then?
05:51:38 <pjp> gnokii: Yes,
05:51:51 <zsun> gnokii: right. Deadline is also next APAC meeting I guess
05:51:58 <pjp> zsun: Yes
05:52:00 <sayan> zsun: yes
05:52:09 <pjp> I'll update ticket #236
05:52:14 <zsun> ok
05:52:14 <gnokii> deadline for the result not deadline for their answer
05:52:24 <zsun> +1 gnokii
05:52:24 <pjp> Yep
05:52:27 <gnokii> already 14 days gone for nothing
05:53:46 <zsun> #info Cambodia can be the option for FAD APAC 2016
05:53:55 <zsun> #action pjp update ticket #236
05:54:09 <zsun> #topic Media/Swag production
05:54:13 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/229
05:54:25 <zsun> I see the ticket is still open. Any input needed?
05:55:29 <zsun> if not, I guess we can remove the keyword 'meeting'
05:55:39 <pjp> zsun: I had asked ambassador's to update the ticket with their requirement, they've done so
05:56:15 <zsun> okay and I think I'll remove the keyword
05:56:24 <pjp> Okay
05:56:32 <zsun> #action zsun remove 'meeting' keyword from ticket #229
05:57:15 <zsun> any more topics today?
05:57:51 <gnokii> that ticket is strange
05:58:21 <pjp> zsun: nope, 2 mins to go
05:59:26 <paragan> I have some topic for open floor
05:59:48 <zsun> time is almost up
05:59:54 <pjp> Yep
06:00:01 <paragan> I have a request here for you all, can someone check the discussion happening in https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/58 ? Please keep an eye on our APAC budget requirement, someone said we uses high budget.
06:00:13 <GIANT_CRAB> Sec
06:00:22 * pjp clicks
06:00:23 * sayan clicks
06:01:00 <paragan> Maybe if needed we can have discussion in next meeting
06:01:19 <pjp> Yep
06:01:54 <paragan> thanks
06:02:01 <hanthana> gnokii, I have updated the design ticket #439
06:02:11 <zsun> #info discuss the council ticket 58 next meeting
06:02:19 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/58
06:02:32 <zsun> then I'll close the meeting
06:02:33 <gnokii> paragan: we use high budget
06:02:52 <gnokii> and our budget for APAC gets raised so what is your problem with that?
06:03:42 <pjp> Let's take that on the list ?
06:03:44 <paragan> nothing we should get what we needed
06:05:18 <pjp> zsun: conclude for today,
06:05:23 <gnokii> what APAC needs is more people that think the get not enough
06:06:34 <gnokii> hanthana: so you want ¨case badges¨
06:06:51 <pjp> zsun: there?
06:07:00 <zsun> I think we should spend money wisely, spend less is not the point. Maybe we need to talk about it in FAD this year and then bring the ideas to council
06:07:32 <zsun> close meeting now. We can talk about this point next meeting
06:07:40 <zsun> #endmeeting