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20:55:49 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Magazine editorial board meeting (2016-05-05)
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20:55:56 <jflory7> #meetingname magazine
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20:56:09 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
20:56:12 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
20:56:15 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
20:57:45 <jflory7> #info stickster is unable to make it to tonight's meeting
20:59:16 <ridgemat> .hello mattnix
20:59:18 <zodbot> ridgemat: mattnix 'Matt Harwood' <matt@mattharwood.com>
20:59:22 <jflory7> o/
20:59:24 <jflory7> #chair ridgemat
20:59:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 ridgemat
20:59:32 <jflory7> Good evening!
20:59:34 <ridgemat> Hi jflory7 !
20:59:37 <ridgemat> Hi everyone! :)
20:59:51 <jflory7> How's it going?
21:00:17 <ridgemat> Pretty good thanks - up early in the morning but hoping to last the meeting here :) How about you?
21:01:18 <jflory7> Glad to hear it! Hopefully we won't run too long here, this coming week is looking pretty good for content.
21:01:28 <jflory7> We'll wait a few more minutes for some others to pop in.
21:01:42 <jflory7> Not sure if ryanlerch was going to make it in or not today.
21:01:44 <ridgemat> That's good to hear :) Have you had a good week jflory7 ?
21:02:19 <jflory7> Yep! Exams are soon to be getting started so I likely won't be as around for the next couple of weeks, but otherwise I've been doing well!
21:02:36 <ridgemat> Oh good luck!
21:02:54 <jflory7> Thanks!
21:04:06 <jflory7> I have a feeling it may be a short showing this week. I think a lot of folks are getting tied into F24 release plans, so it's getting close to crunch time.
21:04:10 <jflory7> Let's go ahead and get started.
21:04:14 <ridgemat> Yeah, I bet
21:04:18 <jflory7> #topic Week in review
21:04:35 <jflory7> #info Total views for last month: 157,960
21:04:47 <jflory7> #info Total views for this month (so far): 20,752
21:05:18 <jflory7> #info Total views last week: 43,797 (best week for all of April)
21:05:35 <jflory7> #info Total views this week (so far): 16,724
21:05:46 <ridgemat> Wahey - great stats!
21:06:52 <jflory7> Definitely. It's interesting about last week being a peak for the month. Looking at past months (March with 185,199 views), April was a bit of a drop-off, but I think the coming release plans are going to be bringing the numbers up big time too. :)
21:06:57 <jflory7> Still a solid month by any means!
21:07:01 <jflory7> Nice job all around.
21:07:10 <ridgemat> Indeed :)
21:07:15 <jflory7> With that, let's get into reviewing this coming week's articles.
21:07:19 <jflory7> #topic Scheduled
21:07:34 <jflory7> #info === "Organising your finances with HomeBank" ===
21:07:39 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12689&preview=1&_ppp=181c815f89
21:07:46 <jflory7> #info Scheduled for 2016-05-05, 8:00 UTC
21:07:54 <jflory7> #topic Pending review
21:08:20 <jflory7> Nice work, ridgemat. :)
21:08:22 <jflory7> ridgemat++
21:08:32 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora teaches future makers in school" ===
21:08:35 <ridgemat> Thanks jflory7! :) It was fun to write
21:08:37 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=3c6f87c61c
21:08:48 <jflory7> Glad to hear you enjoyed writing it - I enjoyed editing. :)
21:08:53 <jflory7> I learned a lot reading it!
21:09:08 <jflory7> So, there was some discussion on the mailing list yesterday and today about this article.
21:09:28 <jflory7> Paul (stickster), Sylvia, and few others took a look and left positive feedback on the list.
21:09:40 <jflory7> I think we're greenlight to push the content out.
21:10:08 <jflory7> We'll just need to decide if we want to have a featured image made or use one of the pictures provided by jdieter.
21:10:51 <ridgemat> My only observation is that the first few paragraphs don't say that the article is about to be an interview - but it is a fantastic piece IMHO!
21:11:16 <jflory7> ridgemat: You're right, it does kind of lead in strong. I think I could soften the intro a bit.
21:11:17 <jflory7> Since both ryanlerch and stickster are going to have their hands tied this coming week, I'll save them an action item and use one of the awesome pictures jdieter sent me.
21:11:42 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Choose one of jdieter's pictures as the featured image for the Fedora + school article
21:11:46 <ridgemat> Sounds good!
21:11:59 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Take another look at intro and try to soften it a bit with more introductory material
21:12:02 <jflory7> Great!
21:12:16 <jflory7> #info === "Retiring 32-bit Fedora Cloud Images" ===
21:12:22 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12606&preview=1&_ppp=c90bb506f4
21:12:37 <jflory7> This one has been pending for a bit. It's jzb's article with the Cloud SIG.
21:12:53 <jflory7> I asked for an update on the mailing list earlier this week for if the status had changed, and I haven't heard back.
21:13:07 <jflory7> It might be ready for next week, but not sure. We'll continue waiting to hear back on this one.
21:13:39 <ridgemat> Not sure if this is the time to mention - but I think "As of the Fedora 23 release" should be 24?
21:13:52 <jflory7> #info Request for more info sent to mailing list earlier this week; no response heard back yet. We'll keep this one pending until we get a definite greenlight on pushing this one out.
21:14:12 <jflory7> ridgemat: I think that was part of the rewrite needed. F24 sounds like it should be the right number.
21:14:22 <jflory7> #undo
21:14:23 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jflory7 at 21:13:52 : Request for more info sent to mailing list earlier this week; no response heard back yet. We'll keep this one pending until we get a definite greenlight on pushing this one out.
21:14:31 <jflory7> #info Request for more info sent to mailing list earlier this week; no response heard back yet. We'll keep this one pending until we get a definite greenlight from the Cloud SIG on pushing this one out
21:14:34 * linuxmodder here kinda
21:14:39 <jflory7> linuxmodder: o/
21:14:41 <jflory7> #chair linuxmodder
21:14:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 linuxmodder ridgemat
21:14:43 <ridgemat> linuxmodder: Hi!
21:14:49 <jflory7> Hiya!
21:14:55 <jflory7> #topic Drafts
21:15:01 <ridgemat> jflory7: If you still don't hear back on anything I can help out on this one if needed
21:15:19 <linuxmodder> in the middle of  finishing  install-guide edits and  trying to figure out why  fedora-mktg  pagure wont allow pushing
21:15:20 <jflory7> ridgemat: Sounds good. Will definitely keep it in mind! We'll see what jzb says once he's back around. :)
21:15:28 <ridgemat> Sure :)
21:15:30 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Understood, no worries!
21:16:10 * jflory7 is looking through drafts
21:17:14 <jflory7> There's a fair number of drafts that haven't changed status since last week. I'll do a quick update on those articles now and we won't dive into them too deeply for now.
21:18:24 <jflory7> #info Drafts in progress, but not finished / started: "What's new in Fedora 24 Workstation", "Single sign-on improvements in Fedora 24" (recently approved from pitch), "Call for Contributors: Fedora Magazine Authors", "What do you look forward to in Fedora 24?", "COPR: the road ahead"'
21:18:38 <jflory7> That leaves us with four drafts to review!
21:18:55 <jflory7> #info === "Getting started with Fedora Jam" ===
21:19:11 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12800&preview=1&_ppp=d3b511a9b5
21:19:19 * jflory7 reads
21:20:32 <ridgemat> Sounds really interesting - but definitely needs more of an intro describing what Fedora Jam is IMO
21:20:43 <jflory7> Looking through it, the length and content seem good. Some parts could use a little introductory text before, but it's a minor need. Some screenshots of other software in the Jam remix would be cool too!
21:20:55 <jflory7> ridgemat: Agreed.
21:21:15 <ridgemat> Makes me really interested in what's on offer though! I might have to try it out myself :)
21:21:20 <jflory7> #info Article is almost ready to go, few ideas:
21:21:30 <jflory7> #idea Little more of an introduction to what the Fedora Jam remix is
21:22:09 <jflory7> #idea Some kind of intro paragraph to some of the steps (e.g. "What is a jackuser group?" "What will that let me do?" etc.)
21:22:19 <jflory7> #idea Screenshots of some of this cool software would be awesome!
21:22:31 <jflory7> Any other tips for feedback?
21:23:03 <ridgemat> Nope
21:23:04 <ridgemat> :)
21:23:39 <jflory7> Okay, great! We'll get this feedback back to the author and move on to the next article.
21:23:55 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Give ParadoxGuitarist feedback on Fedora Jam spin article via mailing list
21:24:05 <jflory7> #info === "Cantarell font improvements" ===
21:24:09 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12482&preview=1&_ppp=b8ec6f9027
21:24:12 * jflory7 glaces over
21:24:15 <jflory7> * glances
21:24:30 <ridgemat> Could glace too!
21:24:35 <jflory7> Heheh. :)
21:24:39 <ridgemat> :)
21:24:55 <jflory7> So, I know Sylvia said an update in the mailing list that she was trying to get in contact with the maintainers and get more information.
21:25:08 <jflory7> I think this one is definitely in progress and that she's working on getting the info for the article.
21:25:21 <jflory7> We can check in on this one next week too and see if anything is new.
21:25:28 <ridgemat> Looks like a great start to the article, for sure
21:26:06 <jflory7> #info Sylvia (lailah / Kohane) is trying to get in contact with Cantarell maintainers and get more information about the changes to the font. This is still in progress, will check in next week!
21:26:19 <jflory7> #info === "John Dulaney: How do you Fedora?" ===
21:26:25 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12742&preview=1&_ppp=febfcdda33
21:26:29 * jflory7 looks over
21:27:15 <jflory7> I'm inclined to say this might be done.
21:27:26 <jflory7> It's probably worth following up with cprofitt to see if this is ready yet!
21:27:32 <ridgemat> Looks great too, maybe (if I'm picky!) one or two more images to break up the text a little, but that's definitely not a must
21:27:36 * jflory7 nods
21:27:51 <jflory7> I think Charles might just be putting the finishing touches on it.
21:28:10 <ridgemat> I love the How Do You series, they're always very well written too - this one no exception! :)
21:28:19 <jflory7> We'll definitely check in with him on this one, maybe this could go out next Wednesday. :)
21:28:30 <ridgemat> Sounds good
21:28:37 <jflory7> Yeah, Charles has done a great job with the last batch of them, they're a great way to get the community involved too!
21:28:44 <jflory7> #nick cprofitt
21:29:25 <jflory7> #action cprofitt Check in with the Marketing mailing list / jflory7 about John Dulaney HDYF status
21:29:42 <jflory7> #info Also, cprofitt is rocking the HDYF series, keep up the awesome work!
21:29:54 <ridgemat> Absolutely! :)
21:30:03 <jflory7> Looks like that's all the drafts I had left!
21:30:10 <jflory7> To this week's pitches.
21:30:37 <jflory7> #topic Pitches
21:31:15 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora is on diaspora*!" ===
21:31:21 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12844&preview_id=12844
21:32:02 <jflory7> I think this pitch is fantastic!
21:32:12 <jflory7> I'm all for seeing this come out for the Magazine.
21:32:12 <jbishop> Thanks. Also, hi. :)
21:32:19 <jflory7> Ahh, hey, jbishop!
21:32:22 <jflory7> #chair jbishop
21:32:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: jbishop jflory7 linuxmodder ridgemat
21:32:39 <ridgemat> Hey jbishop ! I agree, fantastic idea
21:32:51 <jbishop> Anyway, this came up in the marketing meeting last night, and we wanted to put up a pitch to see if it would be a good fit for the magazine.
21:32:56 * jflory7 waves the magic wand
21:33:06 <jflory7> jbishop: Consider it done! Full steam ahead on the draft. :)
21:33:13 <ridgemat> +1
21:33:15 <jflory7> I'll move it over to drafts now!
21:33:31 <jbishop> Perfect. I'll get started on it ASAP.
21:33:41 <jflory7> #agreed This would be awesome for the Magazine! jbishop has full permission to begin working on a full draft of this article.
21:33:48 <jflory7> jbishop++
21:34:03 <jflory7> #info === "Linux, OVS and Libvirt Bridges" ===
21:34:09 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12840&preview_id=12840
21:34:13 * jflory7 takes a look over
21:35:03 <jflory7> I don't have much experience with OVS and Libvirt, but this article seems solid to me.
21:35:05 <linuxmodder> I'd  even  add the  use of  diasp.so/    for those  with  multiple  pods  like myself
21:35:25 <jflory7> linuxmodder++
21:36:01 <ridgemat> This does indeed look solid to me - a layman intro might be a good idea, but more technical articles aren't a bad thing IMO!
21:36:13 <jflory7> I think this article would be a great topic to expand on. Maybe a little bit about "why" and what the purpose of it would be.
21:36:20 <jflory7> ridgemat: Definitely agreed.
21:36:35 <jflory7> I'm +1 to seeing more from this!
21:36:47 <ridgemat> +1
21:37:25 <jflory7> #agreed Article proposal looks good and we'd like to see more about this topic on the Magazine! Ashutosh is clear to begin making this a full draft.
21:37:50 <jflory7> #idea An introduction to what the purpose of doing this / "why" would help expand the article further!
21:37:56 * jflory7 moves to drafts
21:38:32 <jflory7> #info === "New ToDo Features in Gnome 3.20" ===
21:38:37 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12796&preview_id=12796
21:39:12 <jflory7> This article also looks fantastic!
21:39:22 <ridgemat> Glad to hear it :)
21:39:26 <jflory7> I feel like a long time ago, we were going to write this, but I don't know if that ever happened.
21:39:39 <jflory7> This is definitely a new thing in F23, so it's interesting, relevant, and a lot of users may not know about it!
21:39:44 <jflory7> ridgemat: +1 from me. :)
21:39:54 <linuxmodder> maybe a  2 part series  a  more  'layman'  as  ridgemat  said  and then this as a follow on
21:40:06 <ridgemat> I searched the magazine before pitching :)
21:40:12 <jflory7> ridgemat++
21:40:30 <linuxmodder> +1
21:40:43 <jflory7> I think we discussed it with GNOME Calendar, maybe back in F22. Can't remember. I'm definitely +1 to seeing this one come up!
21:40:45 <linuxmodder> although I generally hate  gnome :)
21:41:05 <jflory7> #agreed Another awesome idea by ridgemat - full steam ahead on drafting this one for the Magazine!
21:41:10 <ridgemat> I'm maybe get a few words from Georges (the dev) too
21:41:18 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Did you mean GNOME ToDo or the Libvirt one?
21:41:25 <ridgemat> linuxmodder: I believe it's just GTK3 :) Not needing Gnome per se
21:41:26 <jflory7> ridgemat: Bonus points for quotes, that would be pretty cool.
21:41:34 <linuxmodder> the 2 part was for  libvirt
21:41:39 * jflory7 moves this from pitch to drafts
21:41:51 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Yeah, I think it's a complex enough topic where multiple posts would be super cool.
21:42:00 <jflory7> ridgemat++
21:42:36 <jflory7> That's all the pitches I see!
21:42:36 <linuxmodder> ridgemat,  consider chatting up mikedep333   he  has and still does  tons of work with that  group of  nerds
21:42:43 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:42:48 <ridgemat> Ha! Thanks linuxmodder
21:43:01 <jflory7> mikedep333++ Definitely an awesome guy with lots of knowledge too.
21:43:05 <linuxmodder> he talked my ear off about it and  x2go at  fosscon :)
21:43:21 <jflory7> Okay, any topics for Open Floor tonight?
21:43:52 * ridgemat has to go I'm afraid
21:44:01 <jflory7> I think we're about finished anyways.
21:44:10 <jflory7> Thanks for coming out tonight, ridgemat, jbishop, and linuxmodder!
21:44:16 <jflory7> Oh, one #info for open floor from me
21:44:44 <jflory7> #info jflory7 will not be as around for the next two weeks - starting Saturday to May 23rd, he will not be as around as normal for writing / editing / publishing on the Magazine
21:44:53 <jflory7> Okay, that's all from me.
21:45:02 <jflory7> If nothing else, I'll close out the meeting in two minutes.
21:45:41 <ridgemat> Good night all - and best of luck in your exams jflory7 - let me know how they go! :)
21:45:46 <linuxmodder> nfm
21:46:02 <jflory7> ridgemat: Will do. Thanks for coming out! Keep up the awesome work, you're doing some really awesome things. :)
21:46:16 <ridgemat> jflory7:  You too :) Night!
21:46:23 <jflory7> Enjoy your evenings, all...
21:46:25 <jflory7> #endmeeting