00:59:04 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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00:59:14 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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00:59:28 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
00:59:34 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt
00:59:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt
00:59:45 <award3535> evening cydrobolt
00:59:49 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor
00:59:50 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com>
01:00:06 <award3535> #chair danofsatx
01:00:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx
01:01:41 <juggler> o/
01:02:05 <award3535> #chair juggler
01:02:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx juggler
01:02:35 <danofsatx> evenin' juggler. ready for the next hailstorm to rol through?
01:02:35 <award3535> I will give it a few more minutes for others to arrive
01:02:50 <danofsatx> yo, linuxmodder - you coming to the meeting?
01:02:54 <juggler> uh, hailstorm? :)
01:03:19 <danofsatx> there's another one forecasted for tonight.
01:04:03 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:04:13 <award3535> ok are there any announcements tonight
01:05:32 <danofsatx> 1
01:05:37 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
01:05:39 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
01:05:45 <award3535> #chair jflory7
01:05:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx jflory7 juggler
01:05:51 <jflory7> I have a couple of announcements
01:05:53 <decause> .hello decause
01:05:54 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
01:06:00 <award3535> danofsatx go
01:06:07 <award3535> #chair decause
01:06:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 juggler
01:06:09 <danofsatx> my job opportunity in Charleston fell through, so I will be at OSCON. That was in question breifly, but now settled.
01:06:40 <award3535> ok, did masta ever remove you?
01:06:50 <award3535> if not no worries
01:06:51 <danofsatx> no, we just talked about it over the weekend.
01:07:48 <award3535> danofsatx, I hope that things are well, and of course you are more than welcome at oscon
01:08:08 <award3535> jflory7 your up
01:08:16 <danofsatx> I'm starting my own business, hopefully I'll make enough to live off of
01:08:21 <danofsatx> but thanks
01:08:24 <jflory7> I have four, one is the big one
01:08:34 <jflory7> #info === Fedora 24 Beta is a No Go ===
01:08:37 <award3535> I wish you luck, and hope you flourish
01:08:50 <juggler> I concur
01:09:05 <jflory7> #info The Fedora 24 Beta Go / No Go meeting was held today with the result being "no go" due to fundamental problems with the compose process. The beta release date is being pushed back by one week.
01:09:07 * danofsatx realizes why he usually does this from the office - two 27" monitors are better for multitasking than one 15.7"
01:09:13 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora translation sprint – 5 days, 50 members and 20+ thousand words" ===
01:09:19 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-translation-sprint-5-days-50-members-20-thousand-words/
01:09:28 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Globalization group ran a 5-day virtual translation sprint to focus on the translation of important GUI packages. During the 5 day sprint, 53 contributors translated 22,723 words to over 18 different languages. Learn more about the awesome work done by the G11n team in the Community Blog article!
01:09:46 <jflory7> #info === "Announcing Fedora Google Summer of Code (GSoC) Class of 2016" ===
01:09:51 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-google-summer-of-code-2016/
01:09:58 <jflory7> #info On Friday, April 22nd, Google officially announced the participants for the 11th year of Google Summer of Code (GSoC) program. This year, Fedora was a participating organization. There are ten interns who will be hacking on Fedora over this summer. Read the full post on the Community Blog for more information.
01:10:03 <jflory7> #info === More information about Fedora Hubs ===
01:10:08 <jflory7> #link http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2016/04/26/plan-to-level-up-contributors-with-fedora-hubs/
01:10:15 <jflory7> #info This is a big overview of "the future of Fedora". If you aren't aware, there is a large project underway to help improve how Fedora is presented to newcomers and active contributors. Fedora Hubs will help centralize many different resources and make it easier for contributors to find information. Read more details on mizmo's blog post.
01:10:18 <jflory7> eof
01:10:39 <juggler> thx jf
01:10:55 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:11:10 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:11:40 <award3535> .famnaticket 119
01:11:41 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119
01:12:16 <award3535> danofsatx do you have any updates on this ticket tonight
01:12:59 <danofsatx> stand by one, please
01:13:16 <award3535> danofsatx no problem
01:13:20 <danofsatx> hotel reservations are made, wiki is updated
01:14:02 <danofsatx> masta and I are sharing a room to save costs. It's graduation weekend for UT that week, so hotel rooms are at a premium.
01:14:58 <jsandys> greetings
01:15:07 <danofsatx> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OSCON_2016
01:15:18 <nb> hi
01:15:25 <award3535> #chair jsandys
01:15:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 jsandys juggler
01:15:31 <award3535> #chair nb
01:15:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 jsandys juggler nb
01:16:03 <danofsatx> I will be arriving in Austin that Monday evening, as it is my daughter's final concerto at school at 3:30 that day. I'll be in Austin NLT 7:00pm.
01:16:05 <award3535> danofsatx, even with rooms at that rate, you are still under budget
01:16:26 <danofsatx> that's what we're aiming for, award3535 ;)
01:17:00 <danofsatx> the only thing I don't have details on is the event box. masta is handling that.
01:18:02 <danofsatx> It's now three weeks away, we should probably start thinking about swag, no?
01:18:25 <jflory7> There is a ticket in the Trac for ordering new stickers.
01:18:36 <nb> we already approved ordering stickers i thought
01:18:43 <jflory7> I know Southern_Gentlem or someone else mentioned that it was about time
01:18:45 <nb> it was approved to order after the beginning of this FY
01:18:46 <jflory7> Yeah, we did for this quarter
01:19:01 <nb> jflory7, are you gonna talk to the vendor
01:19:03 <jflory7> So we should be greenlight to pull the trigger on those at some point.
01:19:05 <nb> and tell them what we want
01:19:17 <nb> #proposed order the stickers now
01:19:20 <jflory7> nb: Our order is preserved with UnixStickers, but I don't have the credit card.
01:19:23 <nb> since we already approved it
01:19:32 <nb> jflory7, have jmadriag@redhat.com call them
01:19:44 <nb> email her, cc jzb and decause@redhat
01:20:02 <decause> nb: correct
01:20:11 <decause> how big of an order?
01:20:16 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Email jmadriag@redhat.com about ordering new stickers from UnixStickers, cc jzb and decause
01:20:16 <nb> decause, <1k
01:20:23 <decause> nb: excellent
01:20:27 * nb forgets exact amount, i think we told the vendor $990 or $999
01:20:27 <jflory7> decause: It was 7,000 stickers from UnixStickers, all under 1k
01:20:33 <decause> jflory7: solid
01:20:40 <decause> kk, I'll keep an eye out for it
01:20:43 <jflory7> Mixed variety of styles / shapes
01:20:45 <nb> jflory7, we are getting 1/2 and 1/2 right?
01:20:56 <nb> 1/2 the fedora (logo) one and 1/2 (logo) only
01:20:59 <nb> i think
01:21:15 <nb> jflory7, i'll send you shipping address
01:21:18 <jflory7> nb: I can't remember if it was half full text logo, half infinity, or 1/3 full text, 1/3 infinity, and 1/3 infinity stacked on top of text
01:21:24 <jflory7> We could just choose now
01:21:26 <jflory7> All same price
01:21:31 <nb> it was 1/2 full text, 1/2 infinity i believe
01:21:37 <jflory7> I like the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 option for some more variety
01:21:39 <nb> although i guess we could do 1/3 each
01:21:48 <nb> danofsatx, award3535 jsandys decause thoughts?
01:21:56 <jflory7> Shipping address would be excellent!
01:22:09 * danofsatx kinda wanted the meta-key sticker, but oh well
01:22:20 <nb> danofsatx, we may get some
01:22:23 <decause> they have the 'sheets' now too
01:22:25 <nb> jflory7@fpo?
01:22:31 <jflory7> nb: Yep!
01:22:32 <jsandys> The UnixStickers case badge is nice
01:22:32 <decause> but those would be kinda wasteful possibly
01:22:33 <juggler> i second danofsatx's want :)
01:22:48 * decause ends up cutting up the sheets anyways
01:22:50 <award3535> I am waiting on the card an I can do things that are less than 1K, but decause or jzb can order them as well, we approved them
01:22:56 <jflory7> I can see if they might want to throw in a few extra :P
01:23:19 <decause> jflory7: we can in theory request some too, so you should cc spot on that request also
01:23:29 <jflory7> #undo
01:23:29 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 01:20:16 : jflory7 Email jmadriag@redhat.com about ordering new stickers from UnixStickers, cc jzb and decause
01:23:32 * decause hasn't done the requesting yet
01:23:34 <nb> so, does anyone have opinion on 1/3 each, or 1/2 and 1/2?
01:23:38 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Email jmadriag@redhat.com about ordering new stickers from UnixStickers, cc jzb, decause, spot
01:23:43 <nb> decause, the ones we get free are just for premier events
01:23:45 <nb> #undo
01:23:45 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 01:23:38 : jflory7 Email jmadriag@redhat.com about ordering new stickers from UnixStickers, cc jzb, decause, spot
01:23:46 <jflory7> +1: 1/3
01:23:51 <nb> jflory7, I already talked to spot
01:23:57 <jflory7> Ah, okay, sounds good
01:23:58 <decause> nb: ok, good, you're already on it
01:24:04 <decause> nb++
01:24:04 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Email jmadriag@redhat.com about ordering new stickers from UnixStickers, cc jzb and decause
01:24:08 <juggler> i say 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, and 1/4 . easily divisible. :)
01:24:22 <jflory7> juggler: I hadn't contacted them about 1/4 yet. I did get quotes on thirds.
01:24:29 <award3535> one note, who ever gets the invoice needs to send a copy to me for tracking the budget
01:24:30 <juggler> ah, got it
01:24:30 <decause> just trying to save FAMNA some loot where I can :)
01:24:34 <nb> jflory7, lets get 1/3 1/3 1/3 for now
01:24:41 <nb> we will get keyboard stickers later
01:24:42 <juggler> then 1/3 1/3 1/3 then
01:24:48 <danofsatx> +1 1/3
01:24:51 <jflory7> award3535: I will CC you on this loop as well just to keep you updated and current too
01:24:52 <juggler> +1 1/3
01:24:56 <jflory7> +1 1/3
01:25:06 <decause> +1 1/3
01:25:18 <jsandys> +1 1/3
01:25:35 <nb> +1 1/3
01:25:54 <award3535> ok, who is going to get the order in?
01:26:10 <nb> award3535, jflory7 will email jmadriag to pay for them and will cc jzb and decause and you
01:26:17 <jflory7> Writing that email up right now
01:26:21 <decause> jmad
01:26:23 <award3535> got it...
01:26:41 <nb> jflory7, i emailed you address
01:26:42 <decause> but since it comes out of our cost center (fedora) eventually, we gotta make sure the records go to award3535
01:26:57 <nb> yeah
01:27:09 <jflory7> nb: Received!
01:27:10 <award3535> in the mean time, danofsatx you may want to canvas FAmNA for swag
01:27:22 <danofsatx> roger that.
01:27:33 <award3535> ok moving to the next ticket
01:27:58 <award3535> .famnaticket 145
01:27:59 <jflory7> (also, Southern_Gentlem mentioned bringing up Bitcamp tonight later to close it out, guess that would be a ticket item too)
01:28:00 <zodbot> award3535: #145 (SELF 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/145
01:28:15 <nb> kk4ewt is not here so i guess i will talk about self
01:28:21 <danofsatx> I will find out tomorrow about the duplicator
01:28:31 <nb> So, since F24 has slipped, we will definately not have media
01:28:39 <decause> danofsatx: I looked around the tower, we don't have one :/
01:28:42 <award3535> jflory7, pm me about the ticket
01:28:42 <nb> We may spend about $300 of SELF budget on a duplicator
01:28:52 <nb> if there is no objections
01:28:57 <nb> we won't need more budget
01:29:15 <jflory7> award3535: Acknowledged, will do
01:29:22 * danofsatx feels oddly uncomfortable buying tech with even budgets
01:29:23 <award3535> nb, who will keep control of the duplicator
01:29:35 <nb> hopefully we won't slip any more and we can either download the iso before leaving, or while we are there, depending on when it is staged
01:29:37 <danofsatx> s/even/event
01:29:39 <nb> award3535, ben or I probably
01:29:45 <nb> and we can ship it where it is needed
01:30:16 <award3535> if that is so, we may think about buying one for each event box
01:30:26 <nb> danofsatx, if it sounds better, i suppose we could vote on it separately, instead of having it come out of our surplus of event budget
01:30:39 <decause> nb: we slipped 1 week today
01:30:40 <nb> since i'm not getting funding from famna to come, we should have enough budget already
01:30:44 <nb> decause, yeah
01:30:49 <decause> kk, just double-checking
01:30:56 <danofsatx> like I said, it's odd. not necessarily wrong...just....um.....
01:30:57 <nb> but the go-no-go meeting for final should be the day before SELF starts
01:31:15 <nb> so hopefully, we won't slip any more and can get the iso either that thursday or the friday that self starts
01:31:32 <nb> it won't be released until followig tuesday, but after the go-no-go meeting that thursday, we'll know something
01:31:47 <nb> danofsatx, i think it'd be good to have at least one of them, whether it is from event budget or regular budget
01:32:11 * nb also is planning on ordering us some DVD+R's and DVD sleeves
01:32:19 <nb> even if we don't get the duplicator, we can burn media on our laptops
01:32:37 * nb would prefer a #agreed that that is ok, even though I suppose especially the blank media could just fall under event budget
01:32:39 <danofsatx> some of us can ;)
01:33:04 <danofsatx> my optical drive broke a long time ago. now it's just extra weight.
01:33:16 <juggler> paper weight? :)
01:33:19 * decause doesn't have one :/
01:33:20 <award3535> kk4ewt and I already discussed media for the event and a burn party
01:33:38 <nb> award3535, yeah
01:33:48 <nb> burn party every night is last thing we discussed
01:33:50 <decause> what about having a hub at the table for doing a live-media to swag USBs?
01:34:04 <danofsatx> this stoopit ASUS machine, while a nice virt host, is too darned heavy to be totin' around. It's more of a boat anchor.
01:34:13 <nb> I offered to handle buying the media and sending jmadriag receipt to get reimbursed
01:34:25 <nb> decause, sure
01:34:30 <nb> although do we have any swag USBs?
01:34:52 <award3535> the last ones I had ruth gave to me at OLF
01:34:53 <decause> nb: I meant the ones that likely folks would be getting from other booths (swag USBs are more expensive than DVDs)
01:34:59 <decause> BYOUSB :P
01:35:02 <MarkDude> +1 USBs
01:35:19 * decause does not have any in the tower
01:35:22 <decause> I looked
01:35:24 <MarkDude> USBs are always desired
01:35:33 <decause> the last time I got any were from FLOCK 2013
01:35:34 <nb> decause, at least in the past i haven't seen many usbs given out at SELF, but yeah, we always offer to make them for people
01:35:39 <nb> i know last year we made a few for people
01:35:40 <award3535> #chair MarkDude
01:35:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 jsandys juggler nb
01:35:43 <decause> nb: good to know
01:35:47 <MarkDude> Back up plan is buying a few on cheap, sorta raffle them, works ok, and cheaper
01:36:09 * MarkDude has found even just 3 purchased one can get geeks excited
01:36:10 <cydrobolt> ^
01:36:12 <MarkDude> eof
01:36:29 <jsandys> You don't need to leave usb's on the table but can give them out to guests who have a need and have a conversation with you.
01:37:25 <award3535> so, we need to get back to the original question, the replicator
01:37:25 <danofsatx> but it's much nicer when they say "Fedora" on them so the user doesn't promptly forget what's on it when they get to the Ubuntu booth.
01:37:51 <award3535> #chiar kk4ewt
01:38:00 <MarkDude> jsandys: +1
01:38:01 <juggler> #chair kk4ewt
01:38:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb
01:38:01 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
01:38:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: MarkDude award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx decause jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb
01:38:54 <award3535> so what does everyone think about purchasing a replicator
01:39:07 <nb> I think it'd be something that could come in handy in the future also
01:39:09 <MarkDude> keep them in pocket, we can also stick Fedora badges on rectangular shaped items
01:39:28 <nb> kk4ewt, just in time :)
01:39:43 * decause is gonna bounce shortly, FYI
01:39:54 <award3535> I would propose we buy 2, keep them in the event box
01:40:08 <nb> award3535, we have 3 event box
01:40:20 <MarkDude> Sounds like an item that would be shipped around. It seems of use, especially with the varying Spins of Fedora
01:40:38 * nb is not really opposed to 3, but thinks 1 might be enough
01:40:52 <danofsatx> 3 would be a better purchase. have you priced them yet, nb?
01:41:01 <nb> danofsatx, approx $300
01:41:05 <MarkDude> To me its getting 1 vs 2, we should get one, what is our guess at amount of events we would use it?
01:41:09 <danofsatx> the question, though, is whether there's room in the box for one.
01:41:17 <nb> danofsatx, no, theres not really room
01:41:26 <juggler> any idea whether this duplicator is light / heavy in weight and bulky?
01:41:44 * MarkDude 's gut is we would use at less than 10 events, though its just a guess.
01:41:44 <nb> it didn't look like it was that big
01:41:55 <nb> mainly the size of the drives that it has in it
01:42:04 <nb> there was a 7-bay one for approx 300 i think it was
01:42:05 <nb> kk4ewt, ping
01:42:05 <zodbot> nb: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
01:42:16 <danofsatx> picture if you will, a chenbro mid-tower case with 7 5.25" bays in the front, a 200W PSU and 7 DVD drives.
01:43:10 <danofsatx> https://content.neweggbusiness.com/product/productlist.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=8&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=dvd+duplicator
01:43:24 <award3535> +1 for purchasing 1 duplicator for trial run
01:43:42 <juggler> +1 to award's suggestion..
01:43:44 <MarkDude> +1 from me for one, Im easily swayed though if more folks think of it useful for lots of events.
01:43:53 <MarkDude> +1 award3535
01:44:03 <jsandys> ? 7 drives and case for $300 ?
01:44:06 <juggler> yeah, i'm curious to see if the thing fits into the eventbox with no problem. :)
01:44:08 <nb> http://www.amazon.com/Copystars-DVD-Duplicator-CD-DVD-Burner-Copier-SYS-1-7-ASUS-CST/dp/B005NVCR1G/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461894228&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=copystars+dvd+duplicator+7+bay
01:44:19 <nb> +1 buy one
01:44:31 <jsandys> +1
01:44:41 <jsandys> (3 left in stock)
01:45:12 <nb> $313.90
01:45:20 <award3535> #agreed FAmNA to purchase DVD Duplicator
01:45:23 <kk4ewt> pong
01:45:41 <danofsatx> based on what I know of the event box, I'd more likely go for the 1 to 5 instead of the 1 to 7.
01:45:42 <award3535> nb do you want to get the request in and coordinate with decause
01:45:52 <nb> award3535, sure
01:45:59 <decause> nb: cc jmad too plz
01:46:00 <juggler> +1 danofsatx's suggestion
01:46:18 <award3535> #action nb to submit request for DVD duplicator
01:46:22 <kk4ewt> http://www.amazon.com/Bestduplicator-BD-SMG-5T-Target-Duplicator-Samsung/dp/B005Q4M1OI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461894352&sr=8-1&keywords=DVD+replicator
01:46:26 <nb> decause, yeah, i always cc jmad, she's the person with the money :)
01:46:34 <decause> nb: 100
01:46:47 <danofsatx> 1 to 5: 15" x 9" x 15", 16lb
01:46:49 <award3535> nb it will be up to you to pick the suitable model
01:46:55 <kk4ewt> well i am seeing if we can borrow one , if not we will order one
01:47:19 <award3535> any more on this ticket?
01:47:21 <danofsatx> 1 to 7: 18" x 7.25" x 11", 10lb
01:47:25 <nb> kk4ewt, i think we may want one anyway, since we can use it at other events
01:47:34 <nb> seems to be what i think people are thinking
01:47:49 <award3535> ok moving on
01:47:49 <nb> kk4ewt, but if we can borrow one, plus we order one, we can make even more :)
01:47:57 <award3535> .famnaticket 148
01:47:58 <zodbot> award3535: #148 (TXLF 2016 (Austin, TX - July 8th-9th)) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/148
01:48:01 <kk4ewt> well we have 2 events that we would defintiely use them at SELF and SCALE
01:48:19 <nb> kk4ewt, so i think we will order one, plus if we can borrow one, then even better
01:48:25 <nb> we can use two at self then
01:48:55 <nb> award3535, do i need a #agreed that I can order blank media?
01:49:07 <nb> or is that just fall under event expenses
01:49:11 <nb> since we don't need more budget for it?
01:49:35 <danofsatx> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TexasLinuxFest_%28TXLF%29_2016
01:49:37 <award3535> nb, no, as long as it fits in the budget, we do not
01:49:40 <nb> ok
01:50:26 <award3535> danofsatx, any updates yet
01:50:30 <danofsatx> TXLF, another event that Masta and I will co-own. He is coordinating with the organizers, I don't know that he's gotten an answer from them yet
01:50:51 <award3535> no worries, its still a ways out
01:51:09 <danofsatx> as stated last week, SCALE is the parent org of TXLF.
01:51:33 <kk4ewt> nb media is already in the budget
01:51:35 <MarkDude> So we are looking at sponsoring it?
01:51:42 <nb> kk4ewt, ok
01:51:56 <danofsatx> MarkDude: we're looking at getting a discount - the price went up drastically this year
01:52:10 <nb> danofsatx, how much are they wanting this year?
01:52:16 <award3535> yeah almost doubled
01:52:19 * nb thinks we should limit event sponsorships to like $500
01:52:22 * MarkDude assumes travel and other budget concerns are pretty much what we are doing. $3500 is spendy
01:52:26 <nb> unless it's something very special
01:52:46 <danofsatx> Silver is $3500. That's what we had last year for $500.
01:53:08 <nb> do they have a .org level?
01:53:10 <danofsatx> scratch that, I don't know how much it was last year.
01:53:13 * MarkDude agrees with nb, and with our 5 bills we should be able to get more than an insert. Masta can likely work something :)
01:53:57 <jsandys> Did they give a quote for community exhibitor (says contact for pricing)?
01:54:10 <award3535> I suggest we give masta some time to get the best price possible
01:54:19 <award3535> and table for another week
01:54:44 <danofsatx> they have a "Community Exhibitor" spot. I think that's the angle Masta is working.
01:54:52 <jsandys> How many people attend TXLF?
01:54:57 <danofsatx> +1 table for now
01:55:10 <decause> jsandys: thousands IIRC
01:55:10 <juggler> +1 table
01:55:19 <award3535> +1 table
01:55:21 <danofsatx> jsandys: it is growing year after year. Last year was a bad weekend, and we had 1800-2000
01:55:36 <danofsatx> bad weekend, bad location...
01:55:45 <MarkDude> +1 table
01:56:05 <award3535> ok moving on
01:56:07 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:56:08 <MarkDude> And let masta come from we already have funded the travels,
01:56:17 <juggler> i have 1 item time permitting
01:56:46 <jsandys> +1 community
01:56:50 <award3535> the floor is open
01:56:56 <juggler> regarding research on DefCon, here's what i've found out:
01:57:05 <juggler> DEF CON doesn't do sponsor tables in the traditional sense. You won't see companies like HP, IBM, Dell security there.
01:57:10 <juggler> They do have a vendor area where smaller independent vendors can set up booths/tables.
01:57:15 <juggler> here's the application process: http://www.defconvendors.com/
01:57:20 <juggler> we have some potential contact information if we're interested in setting something up...
01:57:25 <juggler> There's a pretty wide range as far as what staff/attendees/speakers use for their primary OS.
01:57:33 <juggler> Based on historical attendance, the % of Linux users seems higher at DEF CON than any other tech conference my friend has been to.
01:57:35 <jsandys> I need 5 Large and 2 XL shirts for the game winners from the Fedora Games night,
01:57:40 <juggler> DefCon provides a dodgy-looking receipt for attendance. Here's a copy of last year's for reference:
01:57:46 <juggler> https://www.defcon.org/images/defcon-23/dc-23-receipt.pdf
01:58:06 <juggler> Also learned that there is a microcon happening at the same time for spillover speakers: https://www.bsideslv.org/
01:58:10 <juggler> eof
01:58:14 <decause> lolol
01:58:17 <decause> 'receipt'
01:58:32 <MarkDude> :D
01:58:35 * decause wouldn't be surprised if there was some crazy steg-hidden actual info in there though
01:58:39 <juggler> they actually *tweet* that out
01:58:42 <juggler> !
01:59:18 <juggler> I know that's a lot to digest, so we can table discussion until next time? :)
01:59:31 * MarkDude thinks having 2 Fedorans there makes sense. Might actually hear some more about Our Zero Days :D
01:59:40 <nb> jsandys, email me what you need
01:59:43 <nb> and where to send
02:00:04 <jsandys> OK nb
02:00:08 <juggler> hope you find all that info useful
02:00:12 <decause> juggler++
02:00:19 <award3535> juggler, cost?
02:00:37 <juggler> it's all located within, depending on table sizes and stuff
02:00:52 <nb> masta, ping
02:00:52 <zodbot> nb: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
02:01:00 <nb> masta, do you still have central event box
02:01:00 <juggler> not sure about the costs of bsides, but it's hopefully in there...
02:01:23 <danofsatx> nb - yes he does
02:01:41 <juggler> nb not sure if masta is here presently..?
02:02:39 <MarkDude> Travel and attendance is where we want to be for this event. We can see what our connections can get us. But to get a basic +1 for juggler to travel is the start imo
02:02:41 <award3535> juggler, we will need more on associated costs
02:03:28 <danofsatx> juggler: are you a security pro (or amateur, for that matter)?
02:03:48 <juggler> award, can you give me an idea of what's a high end for table price?
02:04:04 <juggler> security intermediate
02:04:19 <kk4ewt> 500
02:04:21 <MarkDude> # item use burner phone, laptop, pad and paper... etc :D
02:04:25 <juggler> although I'm sure I can always learn more.. :)
02:04:36 <award3535> juggler depending on what the booth and lodging, we do not want to go overboard
02:05:00 <award3535> ok folks we got to give up the meeting out of time
02:05:07 <juggler> yeah, looks like we can't even get the smallest 8x8 space here: http://www.defconvendors.com/
02:05:28 <nb> award3535, no one is after us, correct?
02:05:33 <nb> we could keep going unless people have to leave
02:05:40 <nb> although do we have anything else to cover?
02:05:40 <MarkDude> Sounds like you make two budgets, one with table, one without
02:06:20 <danofsatx> my wife is sitting here tapping her foot. she wants popcorn and to watch Big Bang Theory.
02:06:23 * MarkDude thinks that is how to best table this til next week?
02:06:24 <award3535> table is reasonable, but lodging could be the expensive part
02:06:31 <juggler> danofsatx lol!
02:06:55 <nb> $1000 for the 8x8 table
02:06:59 <nb> plus money for power and internet
02:07:10 <danofsatx> plus $525 for power and 'net
02:07:12 * decause is about to bounce
02:07:24 <decause> I'll keep an eye on my inbox for the costs things
02:07:27 <decause> keep up the good work
02:07:37 <jflory7> Bitcamp ticket is closed out, wiki page updated
02:07:38 * nb is reluctant to pay $1500 for an event, although this might be something good for us to do
02:07:38 <juggler> nb not sure we'd want to connect to the internet ... :)
02:07:42 <decause> #info Thank you award3535 for putting together historical budget info this week for FAMNA
02:07:44 <nb> juggler, hmm, true
02:07:47 * decause &
02:07:49 <jflory7> Email sent about stickers to decause + jzb + award3535
02:07:54 <jflory7> award3535++
02:08:13 <juggler> ok, feel free to think about it folks. i'll do more digging to see if there are table prices for bsidesLV
02:08:35 <juggler> also leave any followup questions here on either convention, please
02:08:47 * danofsatx is being pulled into kitchen.
02:08:51 <danofsatx> g'nite y'all.
02:08:52 <award3535> power and internet cost for how long, seems a little high
02:08:53 <MarkDude> Going once
02:08:54 <kk4ewt> bye danofsatx
02:08:58 <juggler> danofsatx bazinga!
02:08:58 <MarkDude> Laters
02:09:12 * juggler is heading to my next meeting!
02:10:05 <juggler> good night all
02:10:08 <jflory7> Night, danofsatx and juggler!
02:10:09 <award3535> #endmeeting